Two Years Until Core Wii Gaming?

I think I'll buy a wii 10 years from now when the system is 50$ and all 20 good games are 10$ each. hakanakumono

[QUOTE="clicketyclick"]

When someone said that Ninty should make games like SSBB better than its predecessors, your rebuttal was that "ssbb outscored its predecessors." I pointed out that outscoring doesn't make it better. You said, "by SW rules, YES the 3% means its a better game." I pointed out you're wrong, SW be damned.ogvampire

no, im not wrong. once again, for the last time. the first thing i said was: "whether a game is better than another differs from person to person"

That was after you said, "ssbb outscored its predecessors," as a rebuttal to the claim that SSBB wasn't as good as SSBM.

i said by SW rules, ssbb is a better game. so how can you seriously ignore the "by SW rules" part and just bother with what i wrote after that, and at the same time also ignoring the "whether a game is better..." part

ogvampire

Where did I say you were wrong about that? I'm saying that whether that's true by "SW rules" or not doesn't make a difference. You continue to argue with me, presumably because you disagree with that?

Sony releases 1st party titles more frequently.

hakanakumono

proof?

[QUOTE="VendettaRed07"][QUOTE="dotWithShoes"][QUOTE="subrosian"]

Joystiq Article

So... does this mean we won't be seeing something beyond the "list filler" "it's sorta a core game" stuff for the Wii until 2010 from Nintendo? I lost faith after E3 2007 and E3 2008 - but I kept hearing "just wait, it's coming." Only, apparently, it's not coming anytime soon :|

ogvampire

SMG, MP3, SSBB, MKWii... Animal Crossing ... What other games do you want them to release?

a hell of a lot more, maybe some new ips to. And maybe some games that are better than their predecessors

SMG outscored sunshine and ssbb outscored its predecessors...

i also find it funny when people complain about Nintendo not making new ips.

yet these same people dont complain about Blizzard or Epic games for the same issue...

maybe because they arent first party companies, that used to make new ips all the time the 360 and ps3 get new ips and multiplats all the time, and with nintendos severe lack of third party they have to step it up a notch, or just do the same they used to do

[QUOTE="subrosian"]

Joystiq Article

So... does this mean we won't be seeing something beyond the "list filler" "it's sorta a core game" stuff for the Wii until 2010 from Nintendo? I lost faith after E3 2007 and E3 2008 - but I kept hearing "just wait, it's coming." Only, apparently, it's not coming anytime soon :|

dotWithShoes

SMG, MP3, SSBB, MKWii... Animal Crossing ... What other games do you want them to release?

Why mention those first 4? They've been out for quite some time now. Even animal crossing, isn't exactly a triple A franchise. Its more on the level of braid, or lost winds from the whole play to relax perspective.

Some may argue SSBB and thats fine, but super mario galaxy is the only HUGE title nintendo has had for the wii exclusively this entire generation.

Another zelda? Its time for one. Time for a reboot for the series. At least, somewhat.

Annnnnd when put into perspective you kids realize that the other consoles are in the same boat, if not more-so.flclempire

how? with all the good core games they get? yeah they are in the same boat of lack of core games...

[QUOTE="hakanakumono"]I think I'll buy a wii 10 years from now when the system is 50$ and all 20 good games are 10$ each. angelkimne

I just bought a Japanese Saturn. And its great. And I play PS1 games more than any other.

I'll be just fine.

[QUOTE="ogvampire"][QUOTE="clicketyclick"]

When someone said that Ninty should make games like SSBB better than its predecessors, your rebuttal was that "ssbb outscored its predecessors." I pointed out that outscoring doesn't make it better. You said, "by SW rules, YES the 3% means its a better game." I pointed out you're wrong, SW be damned.clicketyclick

no, im not wrong. once again, for the last time. the first thing i said was: "whether a game is better than another differs from person to person"

That was after you said, "ssbb outscored its predecessors," as a rebuttal to the claim that SSBB wasn't as good as SSBM.

actually, where did that the person i was replying to say that SSBB wasnt as good as SSBM?

i was just giving him an example of a nintendo game this gen that scored higher than its predecessor

[QUOTE="ogvampire"]

i said by SW rules, ssbb is a better game. so how can you seriously ignore the "by SW rules" part and just bother with what i wrote after that, and at the same time also ignoring the "whether a game is better..." part

ogvampire

Where did I say you were wrong about that? I'm saying that whether that's true by "SW rules" or not doesn't make a difference. You continue to argue with me, presumably because you disagree with that?

right where you said: "i pointed out youre wrong..."

we can argue about opinions all you want, but what you are not realizing is that the only reason i said one game is better than another is because "SW rules", without that i wouldnt have made those comments...

thats all i have been saying... do you understand now or should we go in circles some more? jeez

i noticed you havent seen my edit... so i will say it again:

im tired of going around in circles with you... good day

[QUOTE="ogvampire"][QUOTE="VendettaRed07"][QUOTE="dotWithShoes"][QUOTE="subrosian"]

Joystiq Article

So... does this mean we won't be seeing something beyond the "list filler" "it's sorta a core game" stuff for the Wii until 2010 from Nintendo? I lost faith after E3 2007 and E3 2008 - but I kept hearing "just wait, it's coming." Only, apparently, it's not coming anytime soon :|

VendettaRed07

SMG, MP3, SSBB, MKWii... Animal Crossing ... What other games do you want them to release?

a hell of a lot more, maybe some new ips to. And maybe some games that are better than their predecessors

SMG outscored sunshine and ssbb outscored its predecessors...

i also find it funny when people complain about Nintendo not making new ips.

yet these same people dont complain about Blizzard or Epic games for the same issue...

maybe because they arent first party companies, that used to make new ips all the time the 360 and ps3 get new ips and multiplats all the time, and with nintendos severe lack of third party they have to step it up a notch, or just do the same they used to do

um... do you realize that Nintendo's ips were new at some point, right?

do you also realize that companies keep making the same ip's if theyre successful, right?

almost all of Nintendo's ips are successful... its kinda hard to do all those AND make new ones, right?

[QUOTE="hakanakumono"]

Sony releases 1st party titles more frequently.

ogvampire

proof?

Siren: 2003

Siren 2: 2006

Siren New Translation: 2008

R&C: 2002

R&C UyA: 2004

R&C GC: 2004

Ratchet: Deadlocked

R&C: ToD: 2007

R&C SM: 2008

GoW: 2005

GoW2: 2007

GoW CoO: 2008

While you might have to wait 6-7 years for the next mario game, sony has already released 3 installments in one of it's series.

The reason why Siren games are farther apart is because there is about a year of research that has to be done on real Japanese locations (the locations in the game, as well as the actors playing hte first two are real). They even get access to restricted areas.

sheep: f*** it. I'm gonna get a 360.

btw: i haven't read any of the posts on the the thread, just the link.

sheep: f*** it. I'm gonna get a 360.

btw: i haven't read any of the posts on the the thread, just the link.

T3h_M3tal_Biggz

[QUOTE="ogvampire"][QUOTE="hakanakumono"]

Sony releases 1st party titles more frequently.

hakanakumono

proof?

Siren: 2003

Siren 2: 2006

Siren New Translation: 2008

R&C: 2002

R&C UyA: 2004

R&C GC: 2004

Ratchet: Deadlocked

R&C: ToD: 2007

R&C SM: 2008

GoW: 2005

GoW2: 2007

GoW CoO: 2008

While you might have to wait 6-7 years for the next mario game, sony has already released 2 installments in one of it's series.

oh so youre counting portable games as well? im pretty sure that with the DS, nintendo blows sony out of the water regarding 1st party releases

[QUOTE="VendettaRed07"][QUOTE="ogvampire"][QUOTE="VendettaRed07"][QUOTE="dotWithShoes"][QUOTE="subrosian"]

Joystiq Article

So... does this mean we won't be seeing something beyond the "list filler" "it's sorta a core game" stuff for the Wii until 2010 from Nintendo? I lost faith after E3 2007 and E3 2008 - but I kept hearing "just wait, it's coming." Only, apparently, it's not coming anytime soon :|

ogvampire

SMG, MP3, SSBB, MKWii... Animal Crossing ... What other games do you want them to release?

a hell of a lot more, maybe some new ips to. And maybe some games that are better than their predecessors

SMG outscored sunshine and ssbb outscored its predecessors...

i also find it funny when people complain about Nintendo not making new ips.

yet these same people dont complain about Blizzard or Epic games for the same issue...

maybe because they arent first party companies, that used to make new ips all the time the 360 and ps3 get new ips and multiplats all the time, and with nintendos severe lack of third party they have to step it up a notch, or just do the same they used to do

um... do you realize that Nintendo's ips were new at some point, right?

do you also realize that companies keep making the same ip's if theyre successful, right?

almost all of Nintendo's ips are successful... its kinda hard to do all those AND make new ones, right?

they were making new ones but they got canned for not being casual enough i.e. project hammer and Disaster: DoC

Its not hard if your nintendo to do all this, they have done it every generation before this, why is it all of a sudden they just cant anymore? They could also hire dev teams to make games exclusively for them like they did with rare back in the day, but they dont.

[QUOTE="hakanakumono"][QUOTE="ogvampire"][QUOTE="hakanakumono"]

Sony releases 1st party titles more frequently.

ogvampire

proof?

Siren: 2003

Siren 2: 2006

Siren New Translation: 2008

R&C: 2002

R&C UyA: 2004

R&C GC: 2004

Ratchet: Deadlocked

R&C: ToD: 2007

R&C SM: 2008

GoW: 2005

GoW2: 2007

GoW CoO: 2008

While you might have to wait 6-7 years for the next mario game, sony has already released 2 installments in one of it's series.

oh so youre counting portable games as well? im pretty sure that with the DS, nintendo blows sony out of the water regarding 1st party releases.

There are about 2 portable releases in my entire list.

Nintendo may release a lot, but it doesn't release MAIN installments as frequently.

Sony isn't releasing Siren tennis and God of War golf.

[QUOTE="ogvampire"][QUOTE="hakanakumono"]

Sony releases 1st party titles more frequently.

hakanakumono

proof?

*list*

While you might have to wait 6-7 years for the next mario game, sony has already released 3 installments in one of it's series.

The reason why Siren games are farther apart is because there is about a year of research that has to be done on real Japanese locations (the locations in the game, as well as the actors playing hte first two are real). They even get access to restricted areas.

That's your proof? You barely made a case at all and missed many key games.

Try again. I'll give you a hint to help you along. Give a list of all first party PS3 titles for 2008 (and 2007 if you wish). Remember, you're trying to convince me that Sony (and/or Microsoft) releases quality first party titles more frequently than Nintendo.

[QUOTE="ogvampire"][QUOTE="hakanakumono"][QUOTE="ogvampire"][QUOTE="hakanakumono"]

Sony releases 1st party titles more frequently.

hakanakumono

proof?

Siren: 2003

Siren 2: 2006

Siren New Translation: 2008

R&C: 2002

R&C UyA: 2004

R&C GC: 2004

Ratchet: Deadlocked

R&C: ToD: 2007

R&C SM: 2008

GoW: 2005

GoW2: 2007

GoW CoO: 2008

While you might have to wait 6-7 years for the next mario game, sony has already released 2 installments in one of it's series.

oh so youre counting portable games as well? im pretty sure that with the DS, nintendo blows sony out of the water regarding 1st party releases.

There are about 2 portable releases in my entire list.

Nintendo may release a lot, but it doesn't release MAIN installments as frequently.

Sony isn't releasing Siren tennis and God of War golf.

by including portables on your list, that means i can include all those 1st party DS and Gameboy games, right?

also, those 'sports' games arent developed by Nintendo

they were making new ones but they got canned for not being casual enough i.e. project hammer and Disaster: DoC

Its not hard if your nintendo to do all this, they have done it every generation before this, why is it all of a sudden they just cant anymore? They could also hire dev teams to make games exclusively for them like they did with rare back in the day, but they dont.

VendettaRed07

A release date rumor just popped up today about Disaster

[QUOTE="ogvampire"][QUOTE="hakanakumono"]

Sony releases 1st party titles more frequently.

hakanakumono

proof?

Siren: 2003

Siren 2: 2006

Siren New Translation: 2008

R&C: 2002

R&C UyA: 2004

R&C GC: 2004

Ratchet: Deadlocked

R&C: ToD: 2007

R&C SM: 2008

GoW: 2005

GoW2: 2007

GoW CoO: 2008

While you might have to wait 6-7 years for the next mario game, sony has already released 3 installments in one of it's series.

The reason why Siren games are farther apart is because there is about a year of research that has to be done on real Japanese locations (the locations in the game, as well as the actors playing hte first two are real). They even get access to restricted areas.

Nintendo First Party Games same time frame

[QUOTE="VendettaRed07"]

they were making new ones but they got canned for not being casual enough i.e. project hammer and Disaster: DoC

Its not hard if your nintendo to do all this, they have done it every generation before this, why is it all of a sudden they just cant anymore? They could also hire dev teams to make games exclusively for them like they did with rare back in the day, but they dont.

air_wolf_cubed

A release date rumor just popped up today about Disaster

ok, if those games ever actually get released, i will take back what i said.

they were making new ones but they got canned for not being casual enough i.e. project hammer and Disaster: DoC

Its not hard if your nintendo to do all this, they have done it every generation before this, why is it all of a sudden they just cant anymore? They could also hire dev teams to make games exclusively for them like they did with rare back in the day, but they dont.

VendettaRed07

yeah, nintendo did that all those previous generations... which lasted at least 5 years

so far we're not even 2 years into this gen... can you have a little patience? seriously

[QUOTE="air_wolf_cubed"]

[QUOTE="VendettaRed07"]

they were making new ones but they got canned for not being casual enough i.e. project hammer and Disaster: DoC

Its not hard if your nintendo to do all this, they have done it every generation before this, why is it all of a sudden they just cant anymore? They could also hire dev teams to make games exclusively for them like they did with rare back in the day, but they dont.

VendettaRed07

A release date rumor just popped up today about Disaster

ok, if those games ever actually get released, i will take back what i said. deal?

[QUOTE="hakanakumono"][QUOTE="ogvampire"][QUOTE="hakanakumono"]

Sony releases 1st party titles more frequently.

Rocky32189

proof?

*list*

While you might have to wait 6-7 years for the next mario game, sony has already released 3 installments in one of it's series.

The reason why Siren games are farther apart is because there is about a year of research that has to be done on real Japanese locations (the locations in the game, as well as the actors playing hte first two are real). They even get access to restricted areas.

That's your proof? You barely made a case at all and missed many key games.

Try again. I'll give you a hint to help you along. Give a list of all first party PS3 titles for 2008 (and 2007 if you wish). Remember, you're trying to convince me that Sony (and/or Microsoft) releases quality first party titles more frequently than Nintendo.

You'd have to post all the last 1st party releases in the past 6 years for each company in order to do that. Maybe when I'm feeling ambitious.

[QUOTE="VendettaRed07"]

they were making new ones but they got canned for not being casual enough i.e. project hammer and Disaster: DoC

Its not hard if your nintendo to do all this, they have done it every generation before this, why is it all of a sudden they just cant anymore? They could also hire dev teams to make games exclusively for them like they did with rare back in the day, but they dont.

ogvampire

yeah, nintendo did that all those previous generations... which lasted at least 5 years

so far we're not even 2 years into this gen... can you have a little patience? seriously

the first year of the gamecube was sooo much better than the wiis first 2 years.

[QUOTE="hakanakumono"][QUOTE="ogvampire"][QUOTE="hakanakumono"]

Sony releases 1st party titles more frequently.

BAgamer

proof?

Siren: 2003

Siren 2: 2006

Siren New Translation: 2008

R&C: 2002

R&C UyA: 2004

R&C GC: 2004

Ratchet: Deadlocked

R&C: ToD: 2007

R&C SM: 2008

GoW: 2005

GoW2: 2007

GoW CoO: 2008

While you might have to wait 6-7 years for the next mario game, sony has already released 3 installments in one of it's series.

The reason why Siren games are farther apart is because there is about a year of research that has to be done on real Japanese locations (the locations in the game, as well as the actors playing hte first two are real). They even get access to restricted areas.

Nintendo First Party Games same time frame

Metroid Prime 2: Echoes Retro owned by Nintendo

Paper Mario: The Thousand-Year Door

Pikmin 2

Fire Emblem: Path of Radiance

Pokémon XD: Gale of Darkness

The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess

Super Paper Mario 2007

Metroid Prime 3: Corruption 2007

Donkey Kong Barrel Blast 2007

Fire Emblem: Radiant Dawn 2007

Super Mario Galaxy 2007

No, you don't get it. I only posted 3 series, I didn't post any side games, and I only posted serious titles. You'll have to try harder.

As you can see, Sony releases more titles in each series and doesn't f*** around with side games like nintendo games. I also gave you about 6 or 7 series compared to the 3 series I posted.

[QUOTE="ogvampire"][QUOTE="VendettaRed07"]

they were making new ones but they got canned for not being casual enough i.e. project hammer and Disaster: DoC

Its not hard if your nintendo to do all this, they have done it every generation before this, why is it all of a sudden they just cant anymore? They could also hire dev teams to make games exclusively for them like they did with rare back in the day, but they dont.

VendettaRed07

yeah, nintendo did that all those previous generations... which lasted at least 5 years

so far we're not even 2 years into this gen... can you have a little patience? seriously

the first year of the gamecube was sooo much better than the wiis first 2 years.

which Nintendo core games were released in GC's first year?

[QUOTE="ogvampire"][QUOTE="VendettaRed07"]

they were making new ones but they got canned for not being casual enough i.e. project hammer and Disaster: DoC

Its not hard if your nintendo to do all this, they have done it every generation before this, why is it all of a sudden they just cant anymore? They could also hire dev teams to make games exclusively for them like they did with rare back in the day, but they dont.

VendettaRed07

yeah, nintendo did that all those previous generations... which lasted at least 5 years

so far we're not even 2 years into this gen... can you have a little patience? seriously

the first year of the gamecube was sooo much better than the wiis first 2 years.

This is true. I remember getting nintendo power and wanting one so bad with all the great 3rd party games featured in nintendo power.

[QUOTE="BAgamer"][QUOTE="hakanakumono"][QUOTE="ogvampire"][QUOTE="hakanakumono"]

Sony releases 1st party titles more frequently.

hakanakumono

proof?

Siren: 2003

Siren 2: 2006

Siren New Translation: 2008

R&C: 2002

R&C UyA: 2004

R&C GC: 2004

Ratchet: Deadlocked

R&C: ToD: 2007

R&C SM: 2008

GoW: 2005

GoW2: 2007

GoW CoO: 2008

While you might have to wait 6-7 years for the next mario game, sony has already released 3 installments in one of it's series.

The reason why Siren games are farther apart is because there is about a year of research that has to be done on real Japanese locations (the locations in the game, as well as the actors playing hte first two are real). They even get access to restricted areas.

Nintendo First Party Games same time frame

No, you don't get it. I only posted 3 series, I didn't post any side games, and I only posted serious titles. You'll have to try harder.

As you can see, Sony releases more titles in each series and doesn't f*** around with side games like nintendo games. I also gave you about 6 or 7 series compared to the 3 series I posted.

you are really grasping for straws now...

Give a list of all first party PS3 titles for 2008 (and 2007 if you wish). Remember, you're trying to convince me that Sony (and/or Microsoft) releases quality first party titles more frequently than Nintendo.
Rocky32189

Lol, you actually need someone to prove to you that Nintendo isn't the be all and end all?

Fine.

SCEA has made 49 releases for PS3 with an metascore average of 73.2%. Nintendo has made 30 releases for Wii (that's including those for WiiWare, ones they didn't develop, simply because they are on WiiWare) with a metascore average of 73.9%. (GameRankings data.)

Additionally, 31 of SCEA's titles are over 70%. 17 of Nintendo's titles are over 70%.

which Nintendo core games were released in GC's first year?

ogvampire

[QUOTE="ogvampire"]

which Nintendo core games were released in GC's first year?

air_wolf_cubed

Was SFA really considered first party? I believe microsoft had already bought them buy then ... or maybe that was directly after.

[QUOTE="hakanakumono"][QUOTE="BAgamer"][QUOTE="hakanakumono"][QUOTE="ogvampire"][QUOTE="hakanakumono"]

Sony releases 1st party titles more frequently.

ogvampire

proof?

Siren: 2003

Siren 2: 2006

Siren New Translation: 2008

R&C: 2002

R&C UyA: 2004

R&C GC: 2004

Ratchet: Deadlocked

R&C: ToD: 2007

R&C SM: 2008

GoW: 2005

GoW2: 2007

GoW CoO: 2008

While you might have to wait 6-7 years for the next mario game, sony has already released 3 installments in one of it's series.

The reason why Siren games are farther apart is because there is about a year of research that has to be done on real Japanese locations (the locations in the game, as well as the actors playing hte first two are real). They even get access to restricted areas.

Nintendo First Party Games same time frame

No, you don't get it. I only posted 3 series, I didn't post any side games, and I only posted serious titles. You'll have to try harder.

As you can see, Sony releases more titles in each series and doesn't f*** around with side games like nintendo games. I also gave you about 6 or 7 series compared to the 3 series I posted.

you are really grasping for straws now...

No I'm not. Basically, Sony is more focused on releasing the next installments in their quality series. Nintendo is more focused on releasing side games and casuals than their actual main series.

While you might get many nintendo titles in one year, they're probably not the next mario platformer.

While you might have to wait 6-7 years for the next mario game, sony has already released 3 installments in one of it's series.hakanakumono

Mario is Nintendo's only franchise? I could have sworn they had dozens of others...

You'd have to post all the last 1st party releases in the past 6 years for each company in order to do that. Maybe when I'm feeling ambitious.hakanakumono

You don't have to include the GC era if you don't want to. According to many, Nintendo's Wii lineup supposedly sucks, so wouldn't that make it even easier for you?

Lol, you actually need someone to prove to you that Nintendo isn't the be all and end all?clicketyclick

I never said that Nintendo is the be all and end all. Don't put words in my mouth.

I'm just looking for someone to prove to me that the story in the original post in newsworthy. It takes Nintendo 2-3 years to make a quality game. Same for Microsoft and Sony. Nintendo releases great first party titles a few months apart. Same for Microsoft and Sony.

[QUOTE="VendettaRed07"][QUOTE="ogvampire"][QUOTE="VendettaRed07"]

they were making new ones but they got canned for not being casual enough i.e. project hammer and Disaster: DoC

Its not hard if your nintendo to do all this, they have done it every generation before this, why is it all of a sudden they just cant anymore? They could also hire dev teams to make games exclusively for them like they did with rare back in the day, but they dont.

ogvampire

yeah, nintendo did that all those previous generations... which lasted at least 5 years

so far we're not even 2 years into this gen... can you have a little patience? seriously

the first year of the gamecube was sooo much better than the wiis first 2 years.

which Nintendo core games were released in GC's first year?

pikmin, melee, wave race, super mario sunshine, luigis mansion, metriod prime, starfox adventures, animal crossing, and a few others i cant remember, but not only that we got like alot of third party support, like REmake and RE:zero, super monkey ball 1 and 2, Timesplitters and Eternal Darkness. The gamecube was great, and if the wii got the same support from 3rd parties and nintendo that it did i would be soooo much happier with the system

[QUOTE="ogvampire"]

which Nintendo core games were released in GC's first year?

air_wolf_cubed

Eh? Sunshine, Metroid Prime, and Star Fox Adventures were released in the Cube's second year.

Melee, Pikmin, Luigi's Mansion, and Wave Race Blue Storm were released the first year.

[QUOTE="ogvampire"][QUOTE="hakanakumono"][QUOTE="BAgamer"][QUOTE="hakanakumono"][QUOTE="ogvampire"][QUOTE="hakanakumono"]

Sony releases 1st party titles more frequently.

hakanakumono

proof?

Siren: 2003

Siren 2: 2006

Siren New Translation: 2008

R&C: 2002

R&C UyA: 2004

R&C GC: 2004

Ratchet: Deadlocked

R&C: ToD: 2007

R&C SM: 2008

GoW: 2005

GoW2: 2007

GoW CoO: 2008

While you might have to wait 6-7 years for the next mario game, sony has already released 3 installments in one of it's series.

The reason why Siren games are farther apart is because there is about a year of research that has to be done on real Japanese locations (the locations in the game, as well as the actors playing hte first two are real). They even get access to restricted areas.

Nintendo First Party Games same time frame

No, you don't get it. I only posted 3 series, I didn't post any side games, and I only posted serious titles. You'll have to try harder.

As you can see, Sony releases more titles in each series and doesn't f*** around with side games like nintendo games. I also gave you about 6 or 7 series compared to the 3 series I posted.

you are really grasping for straws now...

No I'm not. Basically, Sony is more focused on releasing the next installments in their quality series. Nintendo is more focused on releasing side games and casuals than their actual main series.

While you might get many nintendo titles in one year, they're probably not the next mario platformer.

once again, those 'sports' and 'party' spin-offs arent developed by Nintendo...

[QUOTE="hakanakumono"]Nintendo is more focused on releasing side games and casuals than their actual main series.

While you might get many nintendo titles in one year, they're probably not the next mario platformer.

ogvampire

once again, those 'sports' and 'party' spin-offs arent developed by Nintendo...

Wii Sports is not Ninty? Wii Sports Resort isn't Ninty? Wii Music isn't Ninty? Wii Fit isn't Ninty? Wii Play isn't Ninty? Wii Chess isn't Ninty? Link's Crossbow Training isn't Ninty?

:lol:

[QUOTE="Rocky32189"]Give a list of all first party PS3 titles for 2008 (and 2007 if you wish). Remember, you're trying to convince me that Sony (and/or Microsoft) releases quality first party titles more frequently than Nintendo.
clicketyclick

Lol, you actually need someone to prove to you that Nintendo isn't the be all and end all?

Fine.

SCEA has made 49 releases for PS3 with an metascore average of 73.2%. Nintendo has made 30 releases for Wii (that's including those for WiiWare, ones they didn't develop, simply because they are on WiiWare) with a metascore average of 73.9%. (GameRankings data.)

Additionally, 31 of SCEA's titles are over 70%. 17 of Nintendo's titles are over 70%.

Please LIST these great 49 games for PS3 made by SCE...

[QUOTE="ogvampire"][QUOTE="hakanakumono"]Nintendo is more focused on releasing side games and casuals than their actual main series.

While you might get many nintendo titles in one year, they're probably not the next mario platformer.

clicketyclick

once again, those 'sports' and 'party' spin-offs arent developed by Nintendo...

Wii Sports is not Ninty? Wii Sports Resort isn't Ninty? Wii Music isn't Ninty? Wii Fit isn't Ninty? Wii Play isn't Ninty? Wii Chess isn't Ninty? Link's Crossbow Training isn't Ninty?

:lol:

we are talking about franchise spin-offs (mario sluggers, mario golf, mario strikers)... not new games that happen to have 'party' or 'sport' in it :roll:

[QUOTE="hakanakumono"][QUOTE="ogvampire"][QUOTE="hakanakumono"][QUOTE="BAgamer"][QUOTE="hakanakumono"][QUOTE="ogvampire"][QUOTE="hakanakumono"]

Sony releases 1st party titles more frequently.

ogvampire

proof?

Siren: 2003

Siren 2: 2006

Siren New Translation: 2008

R&C: 2002

R&C UyA: 2004

R&C GC: 2004

Ratchet: Deadlocked

R&C: ToD: 2007

R&C SM: 2008

GoW: 2005

GoW2: 2007

GoW CoO: 2008

While you might have to wait 6-7 years for the next mario game, sony has already released 3 installments in one of it's series.

The reason why Siren games are farther apart is because there is about a year of research that has to be done on real Japanese locations (the locations in the game, as well as the actors playing hte first two are real). They even get access to restricted areas.

Nintendo First Party Games same time frame

No, you don't get it. I only posted 3 series, I didn't post any side games, and I only posted serious titles. You'll have to try harder.

As you can see, Sony releases more titles in each series and doesn't f*** around with side games like nintendo games. I also gave you about 6 or 7 series compared to the 3 series I posted.

you are really grasping for straws now...

No I'm not. Basically, Sony is more focused on releasing the next installments in their quality series. Nintendo is more focused on releasing side games and casuals than their actual main series.

While you might get many nintendo titles in one year, they're probably not the next mario platformer.

once again, those 'sports' and 'party' spin-offs arent developed by Nintendo...

Many first party titles are not developed by the main company itself, but they're still first party.

I don't see why you're arguing this, because removing them further debiliates nintendo's first party line up.

[QUOTE="clicketyclick"][QUOTE="ogvampire"][QUOTE="hakanakumono"]Nintendo is more focused on releasing side games and casuals than their actual main series.

While you might get many nintendo titles in one year, they're probably not the next mario platformer.

ogvampire

once again, those 'sports' and 'party' spin-offs arent developed by Nintendo...

Wii Sports is not Ninty? Wii Sports Resort isn't Ninty? Wii Music isn't Ninty? Wii Fit isn't Ninty? Wii Play isn't Ninty? Wii Chess isn't Ninty? Link's Crossbow Training isn't Ninty?

:lol:

once again you come into an argument not comprehending what we're talking about

we are talking about franchise spinoffs... not new games that happen to have 'party' or 'sport' in it :roll:

I mentioned casuals, which you responded to. You're not comprehending.

[QUOTE="ogvampire"][QUOTE="clicketyclick"][QUOTE="ogvampire"][QUOTE="hakanakumono"]Nintendo is more focused on releasing side games and casuals than their actual main series.

While you might get many nintendo titles in one year, they're probably not the next mario platformer.

hakanakumono

once again, those 'sports' and 'party' spin-offs arent developed by Nintendo...

Wii Sports is not Ninty? Wii Sports Resort isn't Ninty? Wii Music isn't Ninty? Wii Fit isn't Ninty? Wii Play isn't Ninty? Wii Chess isn't Ninty? Link's Crossbow Training isn't Ninty?

:lol:

once again you come into an argument not comprehending what we're talking about

we are talking about franchise spinoffs... not new games that happen to have 'party' or 'sport' in it :roll:

I mentioned casuals, which you responded to. You're not comprehending.

you also said "side games..."

you have trouble comprehending your own writing?

Many first party titles are not developed by the main company itself, but they're still first party.

I don't see why you're arguing this, because removing them further debiliates nintendo's first party line up.

hakanakumono

no. a 1st party Nintendo game is a game developed by nintendo, otherwise its 2nd party. but we're talking about 1st party, remember? :roll:

[QUOTE="hakanakumono"][QUOTE="ogvampire"][QUOTE="clicketyclick"][QUOTE="ogvampire"][QUOTE="hakanakumono"]Nintendo is more focused on releasing side games and casuals than their actual main series.

While you might get many nintendo titles in one year, they're probably not the next mario platformer.

ogvampire

once again, those 'sports' and 'party' spin-offs arent developed by Nintendo...

Wii Sports is not Ninty? Wii Sports Resort isn't Ninty? Wii Music isn't Ninty? Wii Fit isn't Ninty? Wii Play isn't Ninty? Wii Chess isn't Ninty? Link's Crossbow Training isn't Ninty?

:lol:

once again you come into an argument not comprehending what we're talking about

we are talking about franchise spinoffs... not new games that happen to have 'party' or 'sport' in it :roll:

I mentioned casuals, which you responded to. You're not comprehending.

you also said "side games..."

you have trouble comprehending your own writing?

Do you have trouble comprehending that I said that nintendo focuses more on casuals AND side games, so BOTH are the issue at hand?

[QUOTE="hakanakumono"]

Many first party titles are not developed by the main company itself, but they're still first party.

I don't see why you're arguing this, because removing them further debiliates nintendo's first party line up.

ogvampire

no. a 1st party Nintendo game is a game developed by nintendo, otherwise its 2nd party. but we're talking about 1st party, remember? :roll: