UC2 has got to be the most overrated game of this gen.

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#101 tonitorsi
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What?

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#102 DarkLink77
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[QUOTE="DarkLink77"][QUOTE="SilverChimera"]

>likes RDR

>hates ME2 and UC2

Yep, you a hater brah.

Avian005

I don't hate them. They're just not as great as people think they are.

Or you just don't like it as much as other people do.

No, they're just not as good as people think they are, from an objective standpoint. Half-Life 2 isn't either.
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#103 spookykid143
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[QUOTE="spookykid143"]

[QUOTE="DarkLink77"] Nah, you just buggin'. :P

DarkLink77

While that is probably true I'm still right

Not at all, but w/e. :P

it's ok some day you will see the light.

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#104 Bazooka_4ME
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It's one of the best games this gen next to MGS4, RDR, and SMG.

GTA4 < alternate sleeping pill.

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#105 Badosh
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Mass effect 2 was also overrated.TheGuardian03
If more than 10 person knows about a game, it's overrated.
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#106 DarkLink77
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[QUOTE="DarkLink77"][QUOTE="spookykid143"]While that is probably true I'm still right

spookykid143

Not at all, but w/e. :P

it's ok some day you will see the light.

Not at all. Zelda/TES and Uncharted, as series, aren't even comparable.
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#107 spookykid143
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[QUOTE="Avian005"]

[QUOTE="DarkLink77"] I don't hate them. They're just not as great as people think they are.DarkLink77

Or you just don't like it as much as other people do.

No, they're just not as good as people think they are, from an objective standpoint. Half-Life 2 isn't either.

I would have to agree with HL2, HL1 isn't either i replayed it the other day and i hated it.

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#108 Avian005
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[QUOTE="Avian005"]

[QUOTE="DarkLink77"] I don't hate them. They're just not as great as people think they are.DarkLink77

Or you just don't like it as much as other people do.

No, they're just not as good as people think they are, from an objective standpoint. Half-Life 2 isn't either.

Sorry, but from an objective standpoint ME2 is still one best games this gen.

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#109 DarkLink77
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[QUOTE="DarkLink77"][QUOTE="Avian005"]Or you just don't like it as much as other people do.

Avian005

No, they're just not as good as people think they are, from an objective standpoint. Half-Life 2 isn't either.

Sorry, but from an objective standpoint ME2 is still one best games this gen.

I can list 10 games that are better off the top of my head.
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#110 exiledsnake
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I didn't say MGS4 mainly because I'm not just looking at GS's score. UC2, has won so many awards, has gotten so much praise that it's almost false advertising if you ask me. Is it because there weren't that many good games out that year(much like Halo CE)? Well, to be fair at least Halo CE was innovative for console shooters, UC2 literally did nothing innovative. For a game to win so many awards, I'd expect it to be innovative I really do.

...but UC2, well let's just say there are other shooters out that were more innovative than this game. I really don't see the mass appeal. Perhaps it was just generated by the reviews. Was it because of the graphics? That it was some kind of technical feat? Cows argue that all Crysis is just a benchmark tool, that the gameplay was so average and mediocre. Well, playing UC2 I'd say the same. The gameplay has such a been there done that feel to it that I'm glad I just rented it.

I've honestly never played a game where I felt was so undeserving of the awards it got. Must have been a real boring year. Honestly, it didn't do anything for me. Perhaps if the game wasn't so praised, I wouldn't be such a harsh critic, but the game is honestly no more special than your averate tps. The game received so much praise that I felt obligated to play it. Now that I have, I must say I feel jipped.

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IMO, the hype killed it for you. If it got an 8 or something, you might have liked it I think.
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#111 tagyhag
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[QUOTE="SilverChimera"]

[QUOTE="finalstar2007"]

Agreed with this wise lady :oops:

finalstar2007

LOL You must not know tagyhag

Again, you must not know tagyhag :lol:

Im lost :P??

He's mad I stood him up last night. :P

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#112 percech
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ME2, SMG, RDR...overrated yes. Though not close to UC2. UC2 is like...idk the Titanic of video games.
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#113 Avian005
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[QUOTE="Avian005"]

[QUOTE="DarkLink77"] No, they're just not as good as people think they are, from an objective standpoint. Half-Life 2 isn't either.DarkLink77

Sorry, but from an objective standpoint ME2 is still one best games this gen.

I can list 10 games that are better off the top of my head.

I can list...less than that. But what are the flaws with ME2 that makes it overrated?

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#114 Badosh
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ME2, SMG, RDR...overrated yes. Though not close to UC2. UC2 is like...idk the Titanic of video games.percech
so it's gonna fail at what it was meant to do, and be remembered forever for that.
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#115 spookykid143
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[QUOTE="spookykid143"]

[QUOTE="DarkLink77"] Not at all, but w/e. :PDarkLink77

it's ok some day you will see the light.

Not at all. Zelda/TES and Uncharted, as series, aren't even comparable.

That is true but UC3 will be better then SS.

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#116 dercoo
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[QUOTE="dercoo"]

The mere existence of GTA4 makes this statement impossible.

AmayaPapaya

Wow this is very true. GTA4 is the most overrated game of all time by far.

IMO it was an unplayable mess. So many things wrong with it. The amount of fun I had with it equates to about a 5 or 6 on a 10/10 scale. It ended up being the 2nd highest rated game of all time.

I loved SA so much, then 4 came out

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#117 spookykid143
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[QUOTE="DarkLink77"][QUOTE="Avian005"]Sorry, but from an objective standpoint ME2 is still one best games this gen.

Avian005

I can list 10 games that are better off the top of my head.

I can list...less than that. But what are the flaws with ME2 that makes it overrated?

weak gameplay, weak story and barely a RPG

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#118 OnlyZiiDane
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ME2, SMG, RDR...overrated yes. Though not close to UC2. UC2 is like...idk the Titanic of video games.percech

Please follow this sign. For the sake of SW.

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#119 exiledsnake
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[QUOTE="DarkLink77"][QUOTE="Avian005"]Or you just don't like it as much as other people do.

Avian005

No, they're just not as good as people think they are, from an objective standpoint. Half-Life 2 isn't either.

Sorry, but from an objective standpoint ME2 is still one best games this gen.

As an ME fan, ME2 wasn't that great. The story was a giant leap backwards.
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#121 Pug-Nasty
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[QUOTE="Silverbond"]

[QUOTE="theuncharted34"]

there were plenty of great - outstanding games in 09.theuncharted34

Such as?

infamous, killzone 2 (outstanding), batman arkham asylum (great) just to name a few on the ps3.

Add Demon's Souls, AC II, R&C Future: ACiT, Borderlands, and Red Faction: Guerilla. There's a bunch more ok-ish to good games as well. Some good arcade games that year too.

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#122 SilverChimera
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[QUOTE="finalstar2007"]

[QUOTE="SilverChimera"]

LOL You must not know tagyhag

Again, you must not know tagyhag :lol:

tagyhag

Im lost :P??

He's mad I stood him up last night. :P

Does skittles know about this? :o

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#123 Avian005
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[QUOTE="Avian005"]

[QUOTE="DarkLink77"] I can list 10 games that are better off the top of my head.spookykid143

I can list...less than that. But what are the flaws with ME2 that makes it overrated?

weak gameplay, weak story and barely a RPG

All of those are/can be subjective complaints. The gameplay is far from weak but most certainly not the best, the story revolves around the universe (characters, quests, mission, history), and it's a very good RPG (especially since it's an Action Role-Playing game, not exactly just an RPG). Sure, there are more "pure" RPGs, but that doesn't make them better games.

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#124 DarkLink77
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[QUOTE="DarkLink77"][QUOTE="Avian005"]Sorry, but from an objective standpoint ME2 is still one best games this gen.

Avian005

I can list 10 games that are better off the top of my head.

I can list...less than that. But what are the flaws with ME2 that makes it overrated?

Planet scanning, bad final boss, bad sidequests, poor level design, an enormous step back in terms of RPG mechanics, some bad party members, thin overall plot, poor morality system, etc.
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#125 SilverChimera
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[QUOTE="Badosh"][QUOTE="TheGuardian03"]Mass effect 2 was also overrated.TheGuardian03
If more than 10 person knows about a game, it's overrated.

Whatever floats your boat ME2 is overrated.

You people talk like the story in the original ME was any good. :?

EDIT: Glitchspot quoted the wrong post. I meant to quote exiledsnake and Glitchspot kicked in.

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#126 DarkLink77
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[QUOTE="SilverChimera"][QUOTE="TheGuardian03"][QUOTE="Badosh"] If more than 10 person knows about a game, it's overrated.

Whatever floats your boat ME2 is overrated.

You people talk like the story in the original ME was any good. :?

It didn't try to sell a Space Terminator as serious business. That alone makes it better.
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#127 SilverChimera
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[QUOTE="DarkLink77"][QUOTE="SilverChimera"][QUOTE="TheGuardian03"] Whatever floats your boat ME2 is overrated.

You people talk like the story in the original ME was any good. :?

It didn't try to sell a Space Terminator as serious business. That alone makes it better.

That's like bragging about being the tallest midget. OH yea, I went there 8)
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#128 DarkLink77
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[QUOTE="SilverChimera"][QUOTE="DarkLink77"][QUOTE="SilverChimera"] You people talk like the story in the original ME was any good. :?

It didn't try to sell a Space Terminator as serious business. That alone makes it better.

That's like bragging about being the tallest midget. OH yea, I went there 8)

That has nothing to do with anything, dude. :|
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#129 Badosh
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[QUOTE="Badosh"][QUOTE="TheGuardian03"]Mass effect 2 was also overrated.TheGuardian03
If more than 10 person knows about a game, it's overrated.

Whatever floats your boat ME2 is overrated.

did i say it wasn't?
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#131 SilverChimera
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[QUOTE="DarkLink77"][QUOTE="SilverChimera"][QUOTE="DarkLink77"] It didn't try to sell a Space Terminator as serious business. That alone makes it better.

That's like bragging about being the tallest midget. OH yea, I went there 8)

That has nothing to do with anything, dude. :|

Okay maybe I should elaborate. Mass Effect 1 having a better story than ME2 doesn't mean it's any good. They both have pretty bad stories.
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#132 Avian005
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[QUOTE="Avian005"]

[QUOTE="DarkLink77"] I can list 10 games that are better off the top of my head.DarkLink77

I can list...less than that. But what are the flaws with ME2 that makes it overrated?

Planet scanning YES

Bad final boss Eh, could have been a lotbetter, but not bad. Could have made it look much more original

Bad sidequests Didn't see very many bad side quests, especially considering there is far more variety.

Poor level design Some were good, less were bad, everything else was decent. But sure, this could be valid

An enormous step back in terms of RPG mechanics Some of it was dumbed down, but changing something =/= dumbed down. I would like more though.

Some bad party membersDidn't see any bad , most were good, some were great.

Thin overall plot I agree, but the story is much richer.

Poor morality system Explain

etc AKA, not more complaints worth noting?

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#133 DarkLink77
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[QUOTE="DarkLink77"][QUOTE="SilverChimera"] That's like bragging about being the tallest midget. OH yea, I went there 8)SilverChimera
That has nothing to do with anything, dude. :|

Okay maybe I should elaborate. Mass Effect 1 having a better story than ME2 doesn't mean it's any good. They both have pretty bad stories.

No argument here, but the original's was better.

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#134 tagyhag
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[QUOTE="tagyhag"]

[QUOTE="finalstar2007"]

Im lost :P??

SilverChimera

He's mad I stood him up last night. :P

Does skittles know about this? :o

I really hope that's rhetorical. :lol: I don't have an hour to be naming names.
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#135 sethman410
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Ok, list all the other tps of this generation that was better than UC2. I can only think of Gears of War, rest is worse than UC2 imo. Play more tps please.
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#136 SilverChimera
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[QUOTE="SilverChimera"][QUOTE="DarkLink77"] That has nothing to do with anything, dude. :|DarkLink77

Okay maybe I should elaborate. Mass Effect 1 having a better story than ME2 doesn't mean it's any good. They both have pretty bad stories.

No argument here, but the original's was better.

Again, I don't see how that matters considering they're both pretty bad. ME2 has a MUCH better cast of characters to make up for it. What did ME1 have? Horrible gameplay and the vehicles?
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#137 DarkLink77
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@Avian005 Please, if you are going to defend anything on there, don't defend the final boss. It's unforgivably bad. Please. I found the side quests to be boring, unoriginal, and tedious. I do not include the loyalty missions in the side quests, however. I'm okay with some of Mass Effect 2's changes(i.e. you pull the trigger, gun goes bang, things that are where you shot at die), but a lot of it was unnecessary. "Oh, people hated the Mako because we designed boring planets and the controls were awful. Cut it. Oh, people didn't like the inventory system? Cut it." They didn't even bother to fix most of the actual problems the original game had. Jacob was bad, and Jack's bad if you aren't in a relationship with her. Miranda's just boring, and Grunt is a poor man's Wrex. The morality system locks you into Paragon/Renegade if you actually want to succeed. Personally, I'd just rather not have a morality system at all, but hey.
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#138 Badosh
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Ok, list all the other tps of this generation that was better than UC2. I can only think of Gears of War, rest is worse than UC2 imo. Play more tps please.sethman410
Vanquish?
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#139 theuncharted34
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[QUOTE="theuncharted34"]

[QUOTE="Silverbond"]

Such as?

Pug-Nasty

infamous, killzone 2 (outstanding), batman arkham asylum (great) just to name a few on the ps3.

Add Demon's Souls, AC II, R&C Future: ACiT, Borderlands, and Red Faction: Guerilla. There's a bunch more ok-ish to good games as well. Some good arcade games that year too.

ah man. I'm ashamed I forgot about a crack it time :( outstanding game right there.

and I see darklink is hating on.. pretty much everything again :P

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#140 DarkLink77
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[QUOTE="DarkLink77"]

[QUOTE="SilverChimera"] Okay maybe I should elaborate. Mass Effect 1 having a better story than ME2 doesn't mean it's any good. They both have pretty bad stories. SilverChimera

No argument here, but the original's was better.

Again, I don't see how that matters considering they're both pretty bad. ME2 has a MUCH better cast of characters to make up for it. What did ME1 have? Horrible gameplay and the vehicles?

The universe felt more real in the original.
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#141 DarkLink77
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[QUOTE="Pug-Nasty"]

[QUOTE="theuncharted34"]

infamous, killzone 2 (outstanding), batman arkham asylum (great) just to name a few on the ps3.

theuncharted34

Add Demon's Souls, AC II, R&C Future: ACiT, Borderlands, and Red Faction: Guerilla. There's a bunch more ok-ish to good games as well. Some good arcade games that year too.

ah man. I'm ashamed I forgot about a crack it time :( outstanding game right there.

and I see darklink is hating on.. pretty much everything again :P

It's a dirty job, but someone's gotta do it. :P
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#142 TintedEyes
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Yikes, people are still upset over Uncharted 2's overwhelming praise and success.
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#143 theuncharted34
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[QUOTE="sethman410"]Ok, list all the other tps of this generation that was better than UC2. I can only think of Gears of War, rest is worse than UC2 imo. Play more tps please.Badosh
Vanquish?

nah, the core gameplay is right up there with uncharted but as a whole it's far from uncharted 2.

*unless you were only arguing about the core gameplay.*

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#144 Arach666
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To be honest,I only bought U2 because of the stellar review scores and I found it to be a bit disapointing. Goes to show how much one can trust in review scores.
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#145 OnlyZiiDane
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To be honest,I only bought U2 because of the stellar review scores and I found it to be a bit disapointing. Goes to show how much one can trust in review scores.Arach666
Opinion? Or look at gameplay videos before you buy games.

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#146 sethman410
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[QUOTE="sethman410"]Ok, list all the other tps of this generation that was better than UC2. I can only think of Gears of War, rest is worse than UC2 imo. Play more tps please.Badosh
Vanquish?

And? Lol.. UC2 deserved the praise. THat's it? Only geow and vanquish? Lost planet isn't better. Oh and wait, not everyone likes vanquish better also. So, UC2 is fine... there's just not enough high quality tps this generation, that's all. UC2 has great story, graphics, and polished gameplay. I can't really imagine myself complaining about how UC2 got all the praise ever.
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#147 theuncharted34
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[QUOTE="theuncharted34"]

[QUOTE="Pug-Nasty"]

Add Demon's Souls, AC II, R&C Future: ACiT, Borderlands, and Red Faction: Guerilla. There's a bunch more ok-ish to good games as well. Some good arcade games that year too.

DarkLink77

ah man. I'm ashamed I forgot about a crack it time :( outstanding game right there.

and I see darklink is hating on.. pretty much everything again :P

It's a dirty job, but someone's gotta do it. :P

so, out of curiosity, what game are you hyping goty?

infamous 2 for me.

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#148 theuncharted34
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[QUOTE="Badosh"][QUOTE="sethman410"]Ok, list all the other tps of this generation that was better than UC2. I can only think of Gears of War, rest is worse than UC2 imo. Play more tps please.sethman410
Vanquish?

And? Lol.. UC2 deserved the praise. THat's it? Only geow and vanquish? Lost planet isn't better. Oh and wait, not everyone likes vanquish better also. So, UC2 is fine... there's just not enough high quality tps this generation, that's all. UC2 has great story, graphics, and polished gameplay. I can't really imagine myself complaining about how UC2 got all the praise ever.

no way in hell is gears of war at uncharted's level :P

...yet. gears of war 3 looks pretty outstanding really.

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#149 SilverChimera
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[QUOTE="SilverChimera"][QUOTE="DarkLink77"] No argument here, but the original's was better.

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Again, I don't see how that matters considering they're both pretty bad. ME2 has a MUCH better cast of characters to make up for it. What did ME1 have? Horrible gameplay and the vehicles?

The universe felt more real in the original.

They both feel pretty damn generic. I don't know about you, but exploring countless copy pasta planets with the stupid Mako isn't my idea of fun.

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#150 DarkLink77
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[QUOTE="DarkLink77"][QUOTE="theuncharted34"]

ah man. I'm ashamed I forgot about a crack it time :( outstanding game right there.

and I see darklink is hating on.. pretty much everything again :P

theuncharted34

It's a dirty job, but someone's gotta do it. :P

so, out of curiosity, what game are you hyping goty?

infamous 2 for me.

Honestly, I don't know yet. I think RAGE, Skyrim, and Skyward Sword have solid chances at the title if they check all the right boxes, but nothing's sticking out for me at the moment, sad to say.