Uncharted 2 WON'T get a 10 on Gamespot...

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#51 deactivated-5d6bb9cb2ee20
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[QUOTE="charizard1605"]refers to a game that is as perfect as a game can aspire to be at its time of releaseIronBass
Again, that does not equal perfection.

As perfect as it can be? Seems like they were pretty explicit and clear. The game recieving a 10 has to be as perfect as the technology of the day allows. Meaning Uncharted 2 probably won't be getting a 10. Note I said probably.
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[QUOTE="charizard1605"][QUOTE="IronBass"] Yup. That's why they give 10 for. Sounds fair to me.salxis
Which is what I said. a 10 game means a perfect game. But people were nitpicking at that, so I gave them this explanation

I think this part of the statement s the most important "a game earning this score could not have been improved upon in any meaningful way" So far, from the sound of several reviews, UC2 got great SP,graphic, sound, story, MP etc. , so it's possible for it to get a 10 here if the reviewer thinks that you can't add anything significant to it anymore.

Yes, technological perfection... sigh... I guess gloss, graphics and SFX really have started mattering more than the all important gameplay these days.
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As perfect as it can be? Seems like they were pretty explicit and clear. The game recieving a 10 has to be as perfect as the technology of the day allows. Meaning Uncharted 2 probably won't be getting a 10. Note I said probably.charizard1605

Exactly. As perfect as it can be . That does not equal perfection.

They even state later that the game can't be improved in any meaningful way. They don't say "in any way".

It's pretty clear they don't mean the game's perfect.

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[QUOTE="charizard1605"] As perfect as it can be? Seems like they were pretty explicit and clear. The game recieving a 10 has to be as perfect as the technology of the day allows. Meaning Uncharted 2 probably won't be getting a 10. Note I said probably.IronBass

Exactly. As perfect as it can be . That does not equal perfection.

They even state later that the game can't be improved in any meaningful way. They don't say "in any way".

It's pretty clear they don't mean the game's perfect.

Yes, of course this 'perfection' can be improved upon as technology advances. However, again, I'd like to point out that they clearly state that the game is Perfect within the constraints placed upon it by the technology of the day.
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Yes, of course this 'perfection' can be improved upon as technology advances. However, again, I'd like to point out that they clearly state that the game is Perfect within the constraints placed upon it by the technology of the day.charizard1605
They clearly state that technology is not the only thing that could be improved, but also gameplay mechanics. Maybe you need to double-read the explanation. :?
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#56 Syferonik
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It won't get under a 9 but probably will be a 9.5 which is one of the top rated games of the year (on GS at least)
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It won't get under a 9 but probably will be a 9.5 which is one of the top rated games of the year (on GS at least)Syferonik
Making it one of the two highest rated games of the year, with Chinatown Wars.
[QUOTE="charizard1605"]Yes, of course this 'perfection' can be improved upon as technology advances. However, again, I'd like to point out that they clearly state that the game is Perfect within the constraints placed upon it by the technology of the day.IronBass
They clearly state that technology is not the only thing that could be improved, but also gameplay mechanics. Maybe you need to double-read the explanation. :?

Yes, yes. You're right. In any case, then... I still hope it doesn't get a 10. I mean, from whetever I've seen, it sure doesn't look worthy of a 10 to me. A 9.0 to 9.5 maybe... I may be wrong, though...
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#58 deactivated-63f6895020e66
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Yes, yes. You're right. In any case, then... I still hope it doesn't get a 10. I mean, from whetever I've seen, it sure doesn't look worthy of a 10 to me. A 9.0 to 9.5 maybe... I may be wrong, though...charizard1605

Well, I'm pretty sure whatever score they give to it, they'll do it based on their experience while playing it, not on how it looks worthy of.

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#59 zarshack
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Dude why do you keep saying that you were hyperventilating??? What do you think that word means exactly? Because it makes no sense in the context you have used it.

Hyperventilation = very fast breathing.

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Last thing we need is a new AAAA to send the super computer ego into space. I can see it now, every single PS3 criticism being countered by the number of AAAA titles...

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#61 FragTycoon
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I want to see a 10 here just to see the hilarity that would ensue (just like MGS4). :P

My personal opinion is reserved for when we can play multiplayer and see if it's any good.

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#62 Generalmojo
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i doubt it will score a 10, but im sure it will reach the AAA mark.

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#63 Liquid_DC
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Come on no one ever said it was gong to get a 10. Chill out. GEEEZ
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#64 ps3wizard45
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I dun't see why it couldn't get a ten :|

But maybe two more sequels and then a ten...

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#65 Cicatraz_ESP
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[QUOTE="metalgear-solid"]

It will get a 9.5 that's certain.

charizard1605

I have no problems with that. Seriously, a 9.5 would be perfect. A 10 would be the concession that graphics matter over gameplay.

While I'm not sure if it deserves a 10 (I, just like you, have never played it..), I think that Uncharted has some really top notch gameplay to go along with the awesome graphixxx.

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Dude why do you keep saying that you were hyperventilating??? What do you think that word means exactly? Because it makes no sense in the context you have used it.

Hyperventilation = very fast breathing.

zarshack

That IS the meaning steeped in the root words (hyper and ventilation). However, today it also means going off into a crazed rant over something you are passionate about

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[QUOTE="Cicatraz_ESP"]

[QUOTE="charizard1605"][QUOTE="metalgear-solid"]

It will get a 9.5 that's certain.

I have no problems with that. Seriously, a 9.5 would be perfect. A 10 would be the concession that graphics matter over gameplay.

While I'm not sure if it deserves a 10 (I, just like you, have never played it..), I think that Uncharted has some really top notch gameplay to go along with the awesome graphixxx.

I know that myself. My only contention is, it does not innovate, as in my opinion, a game should if it is to score a 10. Again, this is just my opinion. I'm merely voicing what I think. I have nothing against this game, and I eagerly await its release.
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#68 fenwickhotmail
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I hope it doesnt get a 10, looks like the first with a few more explosions.
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[QUOTE="charizard1605"][QUOTE="Cicatraz_ESP"]

I have no problems with that. Seriously, a 9.5 would be perfect. A 10 would be the concession that graphics matter over gameplay.charizard1605

While I'm not sure if it deserves a 10 (I, just like you, have never played it..), I think that Uncharted has some really top notch gameplay to go along with the awesome graphixxx.

I know that myself. My only contention is, it does not innovate, as in my opinion, a game should if it is to score a 10. Again, this is just my opinion. I'm merely voicing what I think. I have nothing against this game, and I eagerly await its release.

There was nothing at all new in GTA and it got a 10.
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[QUOTE="charizard1605"][QUOTE="Cicatraz_ESP"]

While I'm not sure if it deserves a 10 (I, just like you, have never played it..), I think that Uncharted has some really top notch gameplay to go along with the awesome graphixxx.

tenaka2

I know that myself. My only contention is, it does not innovate, as in my opinion, a game should if it is to score a 10. Again, this is just my opinion. I'm merely voicing what I think. I have nothing against this game, and I eagerly await its release.

There was nothing at all new in GTA and it got a 10.

I know, I disagreed with that, and MGS 4's 10, as well. As per me, no game this generation has really managed to do anything that would make it deserving of a 10. Again, you guys, and the GS reviewers, might just have a different idea of what all a game needs to do for a 10. But I think the game should be a mould apart, or at least, redefine its genre, forever.

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#71 ironcreed
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Good thing it is only hyped AAA then, huh? To be honest with you, though, I do not think it would really suprise anyone if it did at this point. In any event, I still think it will get 9.5, myself.

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GTAIV and MGS4 thought me to keep my mouth shout.IronBass

I recall someone making a bet just like this with MGSIV....L1quid_Sw0rd. Whatever happened to that guy? :P

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[QUOTE="IronBass"]GTAIV and MGS4 thought me to keep my mouth shout.Lionheart08

I recall someone making a bet just like this with MGSIV....L1quid_Sw0rd. Whatever happened to that guy? :P

He is still around I think. He cant post without someone bringing it up :P

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#74 skanjos
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lol great way of thinking tc...... if the game deserves a 10 it should get one.....i have only played the beta and its awesome if it has an awesome campaign why shouldnt it deserve a 10?it even has great online and co-op what more do you want for a title?graphics are awesome and gameplay amazing.i now really hope they give it a 10 so that some fanboys that judge a game before its even out leave...

i still think it will get 9,5 and will be one of the best games this gen.i dont rule out a 10 thought cause naughty dog has worked really hard and what we have seen till now is amazing(better than gtaiv and mgsiv thats for sure)

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#75 tman93
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It will not get a 10... anyone who things so is naive. I do think it will get a 9.0 but I could see it getting an 8.5... but not really less that that, I don't think they would score it the same as the original game.
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[QUOTE="skanjos"]

lol great way of thinking tc...... if the game deserves a 10 it should get one.....i have only played the beta and its awesome if it has an awesome campaign why shouldnt it deserve a 10?it even has great online and co-op what more do you want for a title?graphics are awesome and gameplay amazing.i now really hope they give it a 10 so that some fanboys that judge a game before its even out leave...

i still think it will get 9,5 and will be one of the best games this gen.i dont rule out a 10 thought cause naughty dog has worked really hard and what we have seen till now is amazing(better than gtaiv and mgsiv thats for sure)

Again, I have already stated the game is great. But if every game that was 'awesome' deserved a 10, then my friend, we'd have over 30 AAAA titles every year.
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This is GS, it has a fun forum comminuity but lets be serious. The reviewers at GS are worse than any other even remotely popular gaming site. They just lucked into their jobs by process of elimination. Any score is possible from these idiots.

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#78 Cbok
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GS will score this game in accordance to the money they recieve from Sony IMO.

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#79 ironcreed
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GS will score this game in accordance to the money they recieve from Sony IMO.

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Yes, because it is just not possible that the game may actually be, you know, GOOD.

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#80 MJPK
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If GTA4 can get a 10 any game can.No way in hell that game deserved a 10.

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#81 fenwickhotmail
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If GTA4 can get a 10 any game can.No way in hell that game deserved a 10.

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[QUOTE="fenwickhotmail"][QUOTE="MJPK"]

If GTA4 can get a 10 any game can.No way in hell that game deserved a 10.

Welcome to GS.

That, and MGS 4... I think GS was getting the itch to score evry game a 10 those days... I'm surprised SSBB didnt get a 10. But then again, it's on the Wii.
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#83 ForsakenWicked
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I don't think any game deserves a 10. All games have drawbacks, be it graphical, AI related, bugs/glitches, story, voice acting/soundtrack, etc. I'm expecting an 8.5-9.5 review for this game.
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[QUOTE="IronBass"]GTAIV and MGS4 thought me to keep my mouth shout.Cherokee_Jack
3 10s in 2 years is pushing it.

2 10's in 1 month was pushing it ...
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[QUOTE="Cherokee_Jack"][QUOTE="IronBass"]GTAIV and MGS4 thought me to keep my mouth shout.navstar29
3 10s in 2 years is pushing it.

2 10's in 1 month was pushing it ...

So true...

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why does it matter anyway... Does it make you a lot more successful in life if it does or does not score a 10? Well... while the graphic looks great, I'm still not sold on the main character, he just looks so plain and blah, not even memorable. I'm def not getting a PS3 for this game... however, I might get a PS3 when God of War comes out, now THAT is a game with some good main character imo.Bear_in_Action
You need to play the first one before juding Nathan. He is very memorable just because he isnt all powerful, and all great. He's just a normal guy in the wrong place at the wrong time. He is such a great character because we can all relate ourselves to him.

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[QUOTE="Cherokee_Jack"][QUOTE="IronBass"]GTAIV and MGS4 thought me to keep my mouth shout.navstar29
3 10s in 2 years is pushing it.

2 10's in 1 month was pushing it ...

As I said, GTA and MGS came out in the same year within a few months of each other. It wasn't that unlikely considering the caliber of both those series.

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[QUOTE="Bear_in_Action"]why does it matter anyway... Does it make you a lot more successful in life if it does or does not score a 10? Well... while the graphic looks great, I'm still not sold on the main character, he just looks so plain and blah, not even memorable. I'm def not getting a PS3 for this game... however, I might get a PS3 when God of War comes out, now THAT is a game with some good main character imo.

WHAT?!?!?! Nathan Drake plain and blah??? and not memorable?!?! u must be thinking of a different game!
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[QUOTE="navstar29"][QUOTE="Cherokee_Jack"] 3 10s in 2 years is pushing it.Cherokee_Jack

2 10's in 1 month was pushing it ...

As I said, GTA and MGS came out in the same year within a few months of each other. It wasn't that unlikely considering the caliber of both those series.

They both were overrated. Especially MGS. You needed to have played all the previous games to understand the story, and without the story, that game isn't all that great.

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[QUOTE="Bear_in_Action"]why does it matter anyway... Does it make you a lot more successful in life if it does or does not score a 10? Well... while the graphic looks great, I'm still not sold on the main character, he just looks so plain and blah, not even memorable. I'm def not getting a PS3 for this game... however, I might get a PS3 when God of War comes out, now THAT is a game with some good main character imo.Crispenz
WHAT?!?!?! Nathan Drake plain and blah??? and not memorable?!?! u must be thinking of a different game!

Like i said he has to play the first one...

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#91 AmayaPapaya
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GS very very rarely rates game the same or higher than IGN...I believe the last game to do so was Wii Sports Resort...

Uncharted 2 willl most likely get a 9 or an 8.5.

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If it does, then I shall leave these forums and never return.charizard1605
That reminds me of someone.... Is L1quidSword still around? (or whatever his name was) He said he would leave the site if MGS4 scored a 10.
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[QUOTE="Cherokee_Jack"][QUOTE="charizard1605"] There are fanboys who are.charizard1605
Around here, we call those "trolls".

Trolls, then. They've almost managed to tarnish my personal anticipation for the game.

And whos fault is that. Your basically blaming people for ruining your enjoyment, catch a grip please.
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[QUOTE="charizard1605"]If it does, then I shall leave these forums and never return.killerfist
That reminds me of someone.... Is L1quidSword still around? (or whatever his name was) He said he would leave the site if MGS4 scored a 10.

haha owned

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Last thing we need is a new AAAA to send the super computer ego into space. I can see it now, every single PS3 criticism being countered by the number of AAAA titles...

AnnoyedDragon

Last thing we need is people still *****ing about the PS3. People have been criticizing it since the first 3 years of it's release. Get over yourself. The console still isn't as popular as the Xbox 360 worldwide. I understand that you have a a bias, but at least we now have more great quality games coming out because 09 has been dry since the summer...

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#96 mD-
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and I know people feel that GTA IV or MGS4 didn't deserve a 10, but I think it's funny how people making sound like a rule that you have to space out the time frame amount of 10s you can give out.

"2 10's in the same month? omg!"

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and I know people feel that GTA IV or MGS4 didn't deserve a 10, but I think it's funny how people making sound like a rule that you have to space out the time frame amount of 10s you can give out.

"2 10's in the same month? omg!"

mD-

haha i was laughing about the same thing. A game should get a 10 if its worthy of a 10.Do you guys think a 10 should be given out once per gen?

And to the TC so what if UC gets a 10? Why do you care so much? Maybe the game is actually worth a 10, from what I've seen, and compared to other tens i think Uncharted is very deserving of a 10 even though it probably wont get it.

And you say a game has to be revolutionary to get a 10?You said OoT deservedthe 10, but really that was the exact same game as Link to the Past just with a few more items, and in 3d (which was the standard anyway at the time)

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#98 nintendoboy16
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Wow! There really needs to be an Uncharted 2 sticky now. How many Uncharted threads are there?

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#99 AzatiS
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1) Who said will score 10...

2) All i see is graphic praise and how cool it looks..

3) Many saying will be very nice not a 10....

It wont be a 10 ... But takes 10 on graphic coolness for sure.

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#100 WWIAB
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[QUOTE="Cherokee_Jack"]3 10s in 2 years is pushing it.IronBass
2 10's in one month was pushing it. >_>

Both Games deserved those scores