Uncharted 2 WON'T get a 10 on Gamespot...

Good god, the game is hyped AAA. Why is whether it scores a 10 or not even a debate here? Some of you are coming off as if it will be a failure even if it meets it's hype and scores 9.0-9.5. "No way it's going to score a 10":lol:....Only in System Wars.

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Speculation? Asking if anyone knows what the games development cost is, to get some idea of whether it will actually make a profit as a high budget exclusive, shows I am speculating? If I was speculating I would be coming up with numbers instead of asking for sources on them.

This is also System Wars in case you have forgotten, here we focus on every aspect of a platforms performance in the gaming war. People here care about what goes on behind the scenes, in case years of threads looking at that area didn't make that clear. The business side of gaming doesn't stop counting when one platform happens to be at the disadvantage.

[QUOTE="Pariah-"]

So, how is the meaning lost again? It's possible for Sony, but not possible for others?

AnnoyedDragon

The difference being developers have to make a profit to stay alive, Sony can leach funds from another division to fund games that would bankrupt a normal studio.

Makes you look down on the fanboys who insult every developer who doesn't fully utilize the PS3, simply expecting them to behave like a 1st party developer without their flexible budgets and deadline.

Are you going to go into another rant about third party's not carrying any form of accountability for producing sub-par game quality simply because the PS3's console architecture isn't similar to the PC's? I mean, you do know that console architecture has always been divergent from the PC right?

Pariah-

When criticising the PS3s development difficulty I don't recall ever limiting that comparison between PS3 and PC. PS3 isn't difficult because it is difficult in comparison to PC, it is difficult because it is difficult in comparison to all major platforms in gaming.

No one is really saying 10/10 or next coming of Christ though, you're the one saying that. The hype was established as 9-9.5 long ago.Floppy_Jim

If it got a 10, SW wouldn't be fun, everytime a fanboy talked about how 360 has "better" games, a Cow could just whip out Uncharted 2 and MGS4. Seriously, its unfair.

On a serious note, I too think it will get around a 9-9.5.

i think a ten would be ridiculous too. GTA4 and MGS4 didnt deserve 10seither imo

[QUOTE="IronBass"]GTAIV and MGS4 thought me to keep my mouth shout.Cherokee_Jack

Bringing up the business side of things as a way of criticizing the game is an attempt to distract from the game itself. Make whatever rationalization you wish; you're still trying to lead away from the consumer interest for the sake of emphasizing your general distaste for Sony.

Pariah-

If you had read my earlier responses you would know that is not the case. My issue is not with consumers who only want to play games, it is with the SW users who are using Sony's activity to argue for the platform in regard to the SW. There is nothing about the price cut and increase in high quality exclusives that a Sony fanboy should be proud of, if they are they are ignoring the business side.

And, yet again, you shift accountability from the developers, who take on the project, to the company that publicly offers the medium it will be made on. With that kind of outlook, you probably resent Sony for every good game they put out there.Pariah-

A Cow shifting blame away from Sony's hardware decisions and towards developers? Using Sony funded 1st party developers with none of the time/budget constraints of 3rd party developers as a counter argument to PS3 development difficulty?

Who would have thought :roll:

Never mind all these games that you would use as examples of developers doing well on PS3 are Sony funded titles, you blame the developers for not going bankrupt in their attempt to push PS3...

The PS3's architectural ****is no different from any of the past console designs out there (sans Microsoft consoles). The only reason there's any sort of controversy about it now is because more and more PC devs are forced to work with consoles nowadays. The Xbox brand is far more similar to the PC, and so they show greater preference for the technology all the while condemning the PS3 design for being non-user friendly as if console design was supposed to be like the Xbox all along.Pariah-

Interesting that you would make that claim, considering long time console developers have been struggling with the PS3, popular ones with a long history with Playstation like Free Radical at that. But then a long time PC developer like Crytek make a high end console optimized engine that blows people away, one that looks and runs fine on PS3.

You would have to ignore every "console" developer that has criticised the PS3 to make that sort of claim.

Im loling at the reviewers right now...

IGN gave U2 9.5. The only complaint they had in the review was that one level was a tad bit frustrating... And that the story wasnt a 10/10...

Howcome MGS4 or GTAIV got a 10 then? Im sure GTA4 has loads of frustrating missions...
Reviewers are overscoring games. I mean 10 is perfection. And 9 is near perfection. But they are tossing 9s around like doughnuts...

[QUOTE="Pariah-"]

If you had read my earlier responses you would know that is not the case. My issue is not with consumers who only want to play games, it is with the SW users who are using Sony's activity to argue for the platform in regard to the SW. There is nothing about the price cut and increase in high quality exclusives that a Sony fanboy should be proud of, if they are they are ignoring the business side.

[QUOTE="Pariah-"]

And, yet again, you shift accountability from the developers, who take on the project, to the company that publicly offers the medium it will be made on. With that kind of outlook, you probably resent Sony for every good game they put out there.AnnoyedDragon

A Cow shifting blame away from Sony's hardware decisions and towards developers? Using Sony funded 1st party developers with none of the time/budget constraints of 3rd party developers as a counter argument to PS3 development difficulty?

Who would have thought :roll:

Never mind all these games that you would use as examples of developers doing well on PS3 are Sony funded titles, you blame the developers for not going bankrupt in their attempt to push PS3...

The PS3's architectural ****is no different from any of the past console designs out there (sans Microsoft consoles). The only reason there's any sort of controversy about it now is because more and more PC devs are forced to work with consoles nowadays. The Xbox brand is far more similar to the PC, and so they show greater preference for the technology all the while condemning the PS3 design for being non-user friendly as if console design was supposed to be like the Xbox all along.Pariah-

Interesting that you would make that claim, considering long time console developers have been struggling with the PS3, popular ones with a long history with Playstation like Free Radical at that. But then a long time PC developer like Crytek make a high end console optimized engine that blows people away, one that looks and runs fine on PS3.

You would have to ignore every "console" developer that has criticised the PS3 to make that sort of claim.

It's exactly because I read your earlier responses that I can tell you're trying to conflate the quality of the game with your scrutiny of the business for the purpose of distracting from the game itself. The point here is that no one should have to "feel proud" of anything, and yet you project the implication that people are supposed to.

I blame the developers for biting off a project that's more than they can chew. Sony is not accountable for devs not being able to use the hardware efficiently. If you feel there's some kind of disparity in fairness, then that's on you. But no matter what financial reasons you feel like pushing to the forefront for devs being unable or unwilling to optimize the PS3's performance, none of those reasons will ever equate to an excuse.

It's funny, I don't recall Free Radical making any kind of complaint about the PS3 architecture. And with regard to PC devs, I'm referring moreso to Carmack and Newell. Their ilk has been the loudest in its criticism of the PS3's architecture.

GTAIV and MGS4 thought me to keep my mouth shout.IronBass

if uncharted 2 gets 10 on GS......hehe:twisted:...but nah, 9.5 it will be. if infamous can get 9 then U2 will get 9.5 for sure....its still funny how the PS3 still has no exclusive games that got a 9.5

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It's funny, I don't recall Free Radical making any kind of complaint about the PS3 architecture. And with regard to PC devs, I'm referring moreso to Carmack and Newell. Their ilk has been the loudest in its criticism of the PS3's architecture.

Pariah-

I'm afraid you are going to have to excuse me, it is late my end and I'm a bit too tired to give you a adequate response. What I can do however is link to Free Radical complaining about PS3 development difficulty as being responsible for what happened to Haze.

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Is there anyone thats actually serious about this game getting a 10?

Its not getting a 10, a 9.0 most likely.

Some people are going crazy over this game, but who knows everything happens here..GS is also crazy, MGS4 and GTAIV back to back 10s crazy :P

Hope this is funnier :P

there would be mass chaos

Ah.. pulling a "Wapahala", I see. Good times.. good times.

Most likely they will give it a 9.0. They gave kz2 and Resistance a 9.

One in the video review they said nothing bad about kz2 but they gave it a 9...

Resistance almost the same... 9

They gave Uncharted a 8

Well like some1 said, i dont think any ps3 exclusive got a 9.5 from this crappy reviewing site... (oops)

LBP-9

Infamous-9

Uncharted 2-9

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[QUOTE="PSdual_wielder"]

Is there anyone thats actually serious about this game getting a 10?

Its not getting a 10, a 9.0 most likely.

charizard1605

Some people are going crazy over this game, but who knows everything happens here..GS is also crazy, MGS4 and GTAIV back to back 10s crazy :P

Hope this is funnier :P

haha Im sure it's gonna be in the 9.0-95, 10 is too much stretching it.

Most likely they will give it a 9.0. They gave kz2 and Resistance a 9.

One in the video review they said nothing bad about kz2 but they gave it a 9...

Resistance almost the same... 9

They gave Uncharted a 8

Well like some1 said, i dont think any ps3 exclusive got a 9.5 from this crappy reviewing site... (oops)

LBP-9

Infamous-9

Uncharted 2-9