Uncharted 2 WON'T get a 10 on Gamespot...

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[QUOTE="navstar29"] 2 10's in 1 month was pushing it ... WINDWAKER1

As I said, GTA and MGS came out in the same year within a few months of each other. It wasn't that unlikely considering the caliber of both those series.

They both were overrated. Especially MGS. You needed to have played all the previous games to understand the story, and without the story, that game isn't all that great.

Why is that a prob

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As I said, GTA and MGS came out in the same year within a few months of each other. It wasn't that unlikely considering the caliber of both those series.

BlackTragedy

They both were overrated. Especially MGS. You needed to have played all the previous games to understand the story, and without the story, that game isn't all that great.

Why is that a prob

Yeah it makes sence to need to play the previous games.

Last thing we need is people still *****ing about the PS3. People have been criticizing it since the first 3 years of it's release. Get over yourself. The console still isn't as popular as the Xbox 360 worldwide. I understand that you have a a bias, but at least we now have more great quality games coming out because 09 has been dry since the summer...

mD-

Cows have had a superiority complex since launch, despite being in 3rd place for all these years. Even now there is the unteenth Cow thread declaring their most recent hype title looks better than Crysis, just like every other PS3 hype title before it.

As far as I'm concerned this "supercomputer ego" makes Cows one of the most irritating groups on system wars, so when I see them yet again gloating about their imaginary superiority while they still trot along at 3rd place; I'm going to call them out on it.

The PS3 deserves no praise, especially now when they have literally bought their current success by drowning the market in vast quantities of pay offs. All of these high quality titles are financed and published by Sony, their most praised price cut wouldn't have been possible if they actually cared about making a profit off their system.

All I see is Sony taking massive financial hits to artificially boost the popularity of their system; and I am supposed to be impressed by this? No wonder they hype a 10 year life cycle, that's how long it is going to take to make a worthwhile profit at this rate.

if gamespot dont give this a 10 their written and video review will sound like they gave it a 10 even if they gave it a 9.5 or 9.0. uncharted2 has twitter and will be a system seller and game of the year do doubt

[QUOTE="mD-"]

Last thing we need is people still *****ing about the PS3. People have been criticizing it since the first 3 years of it's release. Get over yourself. The console still isn't as popular as the Xbox 360 worldwide. I understand that you have a a bias, but at least we now have more great quality games coming out because 09 has been dry since the summer...

AnnoyedDragon

Cows have had a superiority complex since launch, despite being in 3rd place for all these years. Even now there is the unteenth Cow thread declaring their most recent hype title looks better than Crysis, just like every other PS3 hype title before it.

As far as I'm concerned this "supercomputer ego" makes Cows one of the most irritating groups on system wars, so when I see them yet again gloating about their imaginary superiority while they still trot along at 3rd place; I'm going to call them out on it.

The PS3 deserves no praise, especially now when they have literally bought their current success by drowning the market in vast quantities of pay offs. All of these high quality titles are financed and published by Sony, their most praised price cut wouldn't have been possible if they actually cared about making a profit of their system.

All I see is Sony taking massive financial hits to artificially boost the popularity of their system; and I am supposed to be impressed by this? No wonder they hype a 10 year life cycle, that's how long it is going to take to make a worthwhile profit at this rate.

how can you claim it not to get 10 when you havent even played the game?

[QUOTE="mD-"]

Last thing we need is people still *****ing about the PS3. People have been criticizing it since the first 3 years of it's release. Get over yourself. The console still isn't as popular as the Xbox 360 worldwide. I understand that you have a a bias, but at least we now have more great quality games coming out because 09 has been dry since the summer...

AnnoyedDragon

Cows have had a superiority complex since launch, despite being in 3rd place for all these years. Even now there is the unteenth Cow thread declaring their most recent hype title looks better than Crysis, just like every other PS3 hype title before it.

As far as I'm concerned this "supercomputer ego" makes Cows one of the most irritating groups on system war, so when I see them yet again gloating about their imaginary superiority while they still trot along at 3rd place; I'm going to call them out on it.

The PS3 deserves no praise, especially now when they have literally bought their current success by drowning the market in vast quantities of pay offs. All of these high quality titles are financed and published by Sony, their most praised price cut wouldn't have been possible if they actually cared about making a profit of their system.

All I see is Sony taking massive financial hits to artificially boost the popularity of their system; and I am supposed to be impressed by this? No wonder they hype a 10 year life cycle, that's how long it is going to take to make a worthwhile profit at this rate.

jelousy confirmed...ps3 and sony are living it up these days and you cant stand it can you?....AAA games left and right, and its digging a hole in ya aint it

Revolution316

I'm on the platform with the most AA/AAA exclusives and the several years running graphics king, so no.

What does bother me is people like you, people who cannot look under the surface and just assume Sony is doing great because of new high quality exclusives and the price cut. Never mind they are losing $100 per unit, never mind all these games were directly funded by Sony and likely have very tight profit margins as as result.

People like you aren't interested in if the PS3 is actually doing better, you're just interested in the result of Sony's cash bonfires.

yes it wont, ratchet and clank ACit is much better then uncharted, that is the one who are ging to get a 10

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jelousy confirmed...ps3 and sony are living it up these days and you cant stand it can you?....AAA games left and right, and its digging a hole in ya aint it

AnnoyedDragon

I'm on the platform with the most AA/AAA exclusives and the several years running graphics king, so no.

What does bother me is people like you, people who cannot look under the surface and just assume Sony is doing great because of new high quality exclusives and the price cut. Never mind they are losing $100 per unit, never mind all these games were directly funded by Sony and likely have very tight profit margins as as result.

People like you aren't interested in if the PS3 is actually doing better, you're just interested in the result of Sony's cash bonfires.

actualy...sony doesnt lose $$ per unit anymore. the price went down 70%....and no ppl like me couldnt care less what sony does, or how many units it sold. sony is giving us good games and we're happy for it

Revolution316

I was already referring to the price of the new model, the PS3 Slim sells at a $100 loss for every unit sold.

In regard to the rest of what you said, my issue isn't with consumers. Consumers shouldn't care about the problems companies have, they should only concern themselves with the best deal and go after that. However what I am seeing in SW as of late focuses on allot more than just consumer interest, some are even suggesting that this is Sony's 10 year plan coming into fruition and that PS3 is going to somehow jump into 1st place.

No, this is not some special plan, it is doing better because Sony threw money at the problem. It is unlikely they can keep doing this in the long term, especially if they intend to make a worthwhile return from the PS3 anytime soon. So I wouldn't be surprised if after this AAA quality exclusive flood PS3 is in for another drought.

Consoles that sell at a loss make their money back on milking the licensing fees from games on their platform, but Sony is funding the development of vast numbers of PS3 exclusives. Who are they going to milk for licensing fees? Themselves? Despite what I am sure many Cows think; Sony isn't doing all this with intent to profit from these self funded games. I doubt games like Uncharted 2 make a worthwhile profit, because they require massive budgets but limit themselves to only one platform. What they do is attract people to the platform; who once on the platform are more likely to buy the 3rd party titles that Sony can milk for money.

Again, more suggestion that PS3 is in for a drought after this flood. Lure people to the platform with titles like Uncharted 2, MAG and Heavy Rain and then hope owning the platform encourages them to buy their version of Batman AA/other 3rd party games.

Come on, people, wake up, get real. Uncharted 2 is an evolution, not a revolution. It refines and smoothes out age old concepts, but it does ABSOLUTELY nothing to warrant a 10.charizard1605

Anything is possible, nothing is certain. I wouldn't say it's in the realms of impossible but I can see Uncharted 2 getting a Solid AAA score here.

No one is really saying 10/10 or next coming of Christ though, you're the one saying that. The hype was established as 9-9.5 long ago.Floppy_Jim

^^this

[QUOTE="mD-"]

Last thing we need is people still *****ing about the PS3. People have been criticizing it since the first 3 years of it's release. Get over yourself. The console still isn't as popular as the Xbox 360 worldwide. I understand that you have a a bias, but at least we now have more great quality games coming out because 09 has been dry since the summer...

AnnoyedDragon

Cows have had a superiority complex since launch, despite being in 3rd place for all these years. Even now there is the unteenth Cow thread declaring their most recent hype title looks better than Crysis, just like every other PS3 hype title before it.

As far as I'm concerned this "supercomputer ego" makes Cows one of the most irritating groups on system wars, so when I see them yet again gloating about their imaginary superiority while they still trot along at 3rd place; I'm going to call them out on it.

The PS3 deserves no praise, especially now when they have literally bought their current success by drowning the market in vast quantities of pay offs. All of these high quality titles are financed and published by Sony, their most praised price cut wouldn't have been possible if they actually cared about making a profit off their system.

All I see is Sony taking massive financial hits to artificially boost the popularity of their system; and I am supposed to be impressed by this? No wonder they hype a 10 year life cycle, that's how long it is going to take to make a worthwhile profit at this rate.

I'm sorry you have invested in SONY and it has turned sour for you but me personally love all the great games SONY has been investing in and putting out for the past two years.

Sorry to be the bad news provider.

Sorry to be the bad news provider.

HAZE-Unit

(bad photoshop though, needs a better quote than best game of all time... best game of all time)

Sorry to be the bad news provider.

HAZE-Unit

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Sorry to be the bad news provider.

nhh18

(bad photoshop though, needs a better quote than best game of all time... best game of all time)

Cmon thats Kanye for you :P

It's funny that this game looks so good that it "Not getting a 10" becomes a debated topic. :roll:

It would be hilarious if it did go AAAA though. I'd take a sick day to watch this place explode....

Is there anyone thats actually serious about this game getting a 10?

Its not getting a 10, a 9.0 most likely.

It's funny that this game looks so good that it "Not getting a 10" becomes a debated topic. :roll:

It would be hilarious if it did go AAAA though. I'd take a sick day to watch this place explode....

santoron

No s***...no one actually believes it will get a 10.

Is there anyone thats actually serious about this game getting a 10?

Its not getting a 10, a 9.0 most likely.

PSdual_wielder

Some people are going crazy over this game, but who knows everything happens here..GS is also crazy, MGS4 and GTAIV back to back 10s crazy :P

Hope this is funnier :P

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Is there anyone thats actually serious about this game getting a 10?

Its not getting a 10, a 9.0 most likely.

HAZE-Unit

Some people are going crazy over this game, but who knows everything happens here..GS is also crazy, MGS4 and GTAIV back to back 10s crazy :P

Hope this is funnier :P

LOL nice one. That is hilarious.

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Is there anyone thats actually serious about this game getting a 10?

Its not getting a 10, a 9.0 most likely.

HAZE-Unit

Some people are going crazy over this game, but who knows everything happens here..GS is also crazy, MGS4 and GTAIV back to back 10s crazy :P

Hope this is funnier :P

I actually choked a little in laughter at the quote lol.

You know what else if funny? I heard people say MGS4 could never get 10!!! Look how that turned out.

It won't get a 10 here.chapnzaba

Yeah, 10 is a little bit much. 9.5 is the overall perfect score. No more no less.

We won't be seeing another 10 for a really long time. >_>

No one is really saying 10/10 or next coming of Christ though, you're the one saying that. The hype was established as 9-9.5 long ago.Floppy_Jim

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It's funny that this game looks so good that it "Not getting a 10" becomes a debated topic. :roll:

It would be hilarious if it did go AAAA though. I'd take a sick day to watch this place explode....

i wonder what would happen if it did get a 10... :okweeni

The thing that's bugging me about the immense hype surrounding this game is: the original Uncharted only got an 8.0 here. Is the addition of multiplayer and a couple of tweaks to the formula really going to improve the sequel THAT much? I somehow doubt it.

Silent-Hal

i wonder what would happen if it did get a 10... :okweeni

Cows would respond to every thread and criticism in SW with "We have two AAAA exclusives". Hell I wouldn't be surprised, they went on about being the only one with a AAAA title for a fair while.

AAAA exclusives are supposed to represent the position of the platform in the market, to attract such a high quality game and for it to be exclusive to only that platform says something about that platform. Of course that loses some of its meaning when Sony is the publisher and the game has no real world development issues to take into account. I'd love to know how much this game cost to make, it is easily in the 10s of millions.

[QUOTE="kweeni"]i wonder what would happen if it did get a 10... :oAnnoyedDragon

Cows would respond to every thread and criticism in SW with "We have two AAAA exclusives". Hell I wouldn't be surprised, they went on about being the only one with a AAAA title for a fair while.

AAAA exclusives are supposed to represent the position of the platform in the market, to attract such a high quality game and for it to be exclusive to only that platform says something about that platform. Of course that loses some of its meaning when Sony is the publisher and the game has no real world development issues to take into account. I'd love to know how much this game cost to make, it is easily in the 10s of millions.

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The thing that's bugging me about the immense hype surrounding this game is: the original Uncharted only got an 8.0 here. Is the addition of multiplayer and a couple of tweaks to the formula really going to improve the sequel THAT much? I somehow doubt it.

cutmaclass1

To Cut what game doesn't send waves of enemies in your direction? Any CoD game is the perfect example on theendless waves model, if you dont pass this imaginary line then we will keep them coming. At least in Uncharted their was an ending to how many enemies were sent you way you just had to use cover and make you shots count.

20 million dollars.

nhh18

A source would be appreciated, cannot really do anything with that figure unless it is confirmed.

If it does, then I shall leave these forums and never return.

Seriously, I'm not saying it won't be a good game. It will be. Hell, it's on the the top of my Most Anticipated List right now. But my problem is with the fanboys who make it out to be like the second coming of Christ. Thos people who seriously believe that Uncharted 2 is the Next Big Thing in gaming. Come on, people, wake up, get real. Uncharted 2 is an evolution, not a revolution. It refines and smoothes out age old concepts, but it does ABSOLUTELY nothing to warrant a 10.

I still think it'll get a 9.0- 9.5. I have no doubt that it'll be a great game, possibly one of the highlights of this generation. However, this is just a reminder for those blinded by their fanboyism that Uncharted 2 really does not, and will not ever, deserve a 10.

End rant.

charizard1605

Poor AnnoyedDragon, he's so obsessed with trying to oneup the company least favors by speculating on production costs that he ignores the games completely.

AAAA exclusives are supposed to represent the position of the platform in the market, to attract such a high quality game and for it to be exclusive to only that platform says something about that platform. Of course that loses some of its meaning when Sony is the publisherAnnoyedDragon

So, how is the meaning lost again? It's possible for Sony, but not possible for others?

Are you going to go into another rant about third party's not carrying any form of accountability for producing sub-par game quality simply because the PS3's console architecture isn't similar to the PC's? I mean, you do know that console architecture has always been divergent from the PC right?

If it gets a 10 I will eat my hat.

Cherokee_Jack

If it gets a 10, I will punch him in the stomach so he throws up the hat, then I will eat it! Without any utensils!

It deserves its 10 if it gets it. No reason why it should'nt unless you have a really bad taste in gaming.

Theres a lot of ANTI-UNCHARTED fans here, and you know most of them are wii fanboys.

Either way, this is a 9.0-10.0 game.
Whatever score it will get, it will still be one of the best games this year and for a while. END OF.

The thing that's bugging me about the immense hype surrounding this game is: the original Uncharted only got an 8.0 here. Is the addition of multiplayer and a couple of tweaks to the formula really going to improve the sequel THAT much? I somehow doubt it.

Silent-Hal

See Killzone 2.

Poor AnnoyedDragon, he's so obsessed with trying to oneup the company least favors by speculating on production costs that he ignores the games completely.

Pariah-

Speculation? Asking if anyone knows what the games development cost is, to get some idea of whether it will actually make a profit as a high budget exclusive, shows I am speculating? If I was speculating I would be coming up with numbers instead of asking for sources on them.

This is also System Wars in case you have forgotten, here we focus on every aspect of a platforms performance in the gaming war. People here care about what goes on behind the scenes, in case years of threads looking at that area didn't make that clear. The business side of gaming doesn't stop counting when one platform happens to be at the disadvantage.

So, how is the meaning lost again? It's possible for Sony, but not possible for others?

Pariah-

The difference being developers have to make a profit to stay alive, Sony can leach funds from another division to fund games that would bankrupt a normal studio.

Makes you look down on the fanboys who insult every developer who doesn't fully utilize the PS3, simply expecting them to behave like a 1st party developer without their flexible budgets and deadline.

Are you going to go into another rant about third party's not carrying any form of accountability for producing sub-par game quality simply because the PS3's console architecture isn't similar to the PC's? I mean, you do know that console architecture has always been divergent from the PC right?

Pariah-

When criticising the PS3s development difficulty I don't recall ever limiting that comparison between PS3 and PC. PS3 isn't difficult because it is difficult in comparison to PC, it is difficult because it is difficult in comparison to all major platforms in gaming.

9.0-9.5 here on GS. UC2 deserves a 10 but IGN already screwed that up.djsifer01