Uncharted 4 pushes PS4 tech to the next level.

I'd like to see that link to where ND said they couldn't accomplish 30fps.

Do you have a demo or video of gameplay where the fps are below 30fps.

Anything....or are you twisting their words around from "We're shooting for 30fps" and then them showing a demo at 30fps.....to "We can't get the game to 30fps."

TC kinda left some parts out from the article.

"Overall, it's a slight step back for Uncharted 4's image quality since the last demo, but the results are still ahead of most PS4 titles today."

"As a sign of future releases, it also suggests a native 1080p is still very much viable for PS4 releases pushing the envelope with a huge world, though developers are seemingly still keen to top this off with a post-process method of AA - and all the caveats that brings to absolute clarity."

"It's not squeaky clean; there are occasional one-off frame drops in our graph."

@tormentos: I got the platinum in The Order 1886. Did you even play it? "Incredible looking physics on its cloth" lol. You will stretch to incredible lengths to paint a positive picture of Sony.

Never said they couldn't achieve it....it's just not there now, even the TC's article states there are drops. I will find the quote from them, when I get a chance. But like I said bragging about power when the game runs or will run at 30fps is silly to me. Brag when you can make a graphics king at 1080P/60fps. All I am saying.

You said "Yet it can't reach a stable 30fps". Yet they have a demo which is 30fps accross the entire demo.

Nothing you've said proves that the game will not be a steady 30fps.

You're basically bashing a game for it's optimization while still in development....thats ridiculous.

We knew Naughty Gods, makers of a top 4 and top 5 GOAT would push the hardware to the limits.

Deluxe CE day fucking 1.

http://www.gamespot.com/forums/system-wars-314159282/naughty-dog-lead-designer-uncharted-4-targeting-30-32156705/

Here you go....also I am talking about currently, sure they can produce a demo at 30fps and I don't doubt the final game will be 30fps but after E3 the dev said targeting.

Again...the game is still in development.

Do you think games just *poof* and start out finished?

You said "Yet it can't reach a stable 30fps". Yet they have a demo which is 30fps accross the entire demo.

Nothing you've said proves that the game will not be a steady 30fps.

You're basically bashing a game for it's optimization while still in development....thats ridiculous.

Are people REALLY going to use a E3 demo as proof that the game will have a stable fps and look that good? Not saying Uncharted will or will not, but really after all the numerous games that have been downgraded after release?

That's not saying much when the system is struggling to compete against a entry level pc with a 750 ti and i3 4150...

@tormentos: First off, E3 awards? really?

Second, physics? yes, i know that a competent physics engine allows for a more believable experince. Ense why Star Citizen's physics rendering and overall detail is more impessive.

that's a pc game for you

I hope for those making all those claims about how good UC4 looks, it doesn't get downgraded as you will all look very silly hyping this game.

You really should learn from history.

And comparing it to the multiplayer part of Halo 5 is sad.

I'll wait for both to be released before getting involved in this discussion.

Yeah naughty dog pushed that cinematic feel but are also a product of sony. This is not llike an indepent dev. they can keep on making cinematic games, other gamers than sony boys won't play them.

Red dead redemption is open world and has more rpg elements than uncharted, gta is open world as well. your point?

About infamous

Shadows and lighting are nerfed

If i want graphics i go to a pc, if a want gameplay i got the xboxone, if I don't know what good games are, i go ps4 since it has that gddr5...

I heard, he doesn't even own a PS4.

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Yeah naughty dog pushed that cinematic feel but are also a product of sony. This is not llike an indepent dev. they can keep on making cinematic games, other gamers than sony boys won't play them.

Red dead redemption is open world and has more rpg elements than uncharted, gta is open world as well. your point?

About infamous

Shadows and lighting are nerfed

If i want graphics i go to a pc, if a want gameplay i got the xboxone, if I don't know what good games are, i go ps4 since it has that gddr5...

WTF yeah i can do that with everything..,..

You are just an idiot....lol

Yeah i magically invented the one i took pictures off with my name which i posted here....ass..

Fact is you and him both are closet lemms...lol Hell in his case he is not a closet lemm he is a full blackace level lemming....

But but but The order look bad...lol

It cant be the best looking game since its not out yet. Horizon and UC4 were the best looking games at E3 though :)

It must be, PC didn't have any top 4-5 exclusive GOATS last gen.

Yes they did, "The Orange Box" #26, 2007

http://www.metacritic.com/browse/games/score/metascore/all/all/filtered

And ND didn't have a 4 and 5 but a 23 & 49.

Unless you are still saying that you aare sharing the 4th position with twenty other titles and 5th with 19 while also being trumped by around 18 other titles?

OB was a multi plat right out of the box.

And I already proved Naughty Gods did and provided links.

I think a special shout out is in order for SONY, current gen 8 console leader with the world's most powerful video game hardware the PS4.

Sony, last gen you gave us an unprecedented amount of exclusive GOTY's a perfect 10/10 exclusive and to top it all off a top 4 and top 5 GOAT.

We as a gaming community thank you, love you and are humbled by your greatness.

We only try to follow your Live, Learn and Love philosophy, but by golly that doesn't mean we cant try,

Thank you.

I can't remember you posting your PS4 pics. And do you love when someone owns your ass every time??? Keep playing that "Lem" card dumbass. Your tears are delicious.

Now go ahead and prove me wrong. Lolmentos.

Yeah i magically invented the one i took pictures off with my name which i posted here....ass..

Fact is you and him both are closet lemms...lol Hell in his case he is not a closet lemm he is a full blackace level lemming....

But but but The order look bad...lol

That usually happens with multiplats for some reason.

Watchdogs...Witcher 3....but there is no reason to think that they will drastically downgrade Uncharted. If they do....then so be it....hopefully it will still look good.

But the fact is that if they can get a whole level to run at a constant 30fps for a demo....why not the rest of the game?

I can't keep talking in circles......I am saying they are bragging about the power of the console and how it can do so much but the game is 30fps ( or less currently )....it's just the same ol typical Sony hype machine.

People have selective short term memories? ND has downgraded two of their games from E3's to retail......

Does this mean that they will for UC4 who knows but to suggest it dont happen for ND games or exclusives is idiotic.

Damn people are still discussing this?

Sticky a thread, OFFICIAL GRAPHICS KING : UNCHARTED 4.

End of story.

But it makes people mad, even if it will be true when the game launches next year. It makes people feel cozy to say PS4 is a weak POS and UC4 looks worse than 2011 PC games.

in 2016 when all reviews call it the most impressive graphical feat seen so far in video games, system warriors will say how the industry is bias toward playstation and the reviewers have no credibility, tears, fits, my opinion over everyone yada yeda ect, it's how some people sleep at night.

These guys thought it wasn't the best in show: http://arstechnica.com/gaming/2015/06/deus-ex-mankind-divided-is-beautiful-brutal-and-seriously-ambitious-2/

So I'm happy to wait and see how it is when released.

Uncharted 4 is probably the most meticulously detailed game ever made. Naughty Dog always has an eye for detail.

While Star Citizen will be bigger, better looking, and overall more technically impressive, it still won't have the crazy level of details (not visual quality, just robust world details) that Uncharted 4 or any future Naughty Dog game has.

That's one major advantage of them making linear games. They can spend much more time crafting the world. They can tightly control the environments and add in a lot of detail since you only ever go through a level once. There is no need to worry about if the damage would persist or anything else like that. All of the levels are a one-and-done and that gives you the freedom to do a lot of crazy detail that you couldn't do in a more open-world game.

Linear games will always look better than open world games. They can take far more liberties with their environments and graphics as they do not have to account for hundreds of potential situations. Each level can have specific settings for each section to best optimize graphics and performance. You can't get away with that in an open world game.

The problem is, obviously, that these are linear games. They are one-and-done with maybe a playthrough. Generally they are pretty shallow experiences. Something like Star Citizen or Total War Warhammer have far more gameplay, far more depth, and way more length to them because the player drives the experience and makes the choices. With a linear game the player isn't the one making the choices. They are playing the scripted sequences.

Deus ex is a looker and also another one of the top best looking games at the show along with Battlefront and Horizon and I can see anyone making an argument for it. The thing is, I said when UC4 reviewed 1Q 2016~March-April. When does Deus Ex release? any projected date?

I am not saying UC4 won't any have competition in 2016, I am saying when it releases It's going to be the most impressive graphical game on any platform and it is going to get critical acclaim from professional outlets verifying that fact.

@tormentos: I'm talking about ground physics you idiot.

Can you pick up objects in the environment like in SC? no? didn't think so. Objects are fully rendered has physics items in the game. Deflating rice bags? Not only do those exist in SC, but you can actually interact with them, pick them up, toss them around and they react to gravity, or lack thereof, like you'd expect.

bu-bu-bu-bu-but my rice bag expansions,

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@tormentos said:

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@tormentos: I got the platinum in The Order 1886. Did you even play it? "Incredible looking physics on its cloth" lol. You will stretch to incredible lengths to paint a positive picture of Sony.

I heard, he doesn't even own a PS4.

Yeah i magically invented the one i took pictures off with my name which i posted here....ass..

Fact is you and him both are closet lemms...lol Hell in his case he is not a closet lemm he is a full blackace level lemming....

But but but The order look bad...lol

I can't remember you posting your PS4 pics. And do you love when someone owns your ass every time??? Keep playing that "Lem" card dumbass. Your tears are delicious.

Now go ahead and prove me wrong. Lolmentos.

You should make that "PC gamer of the year" thing an iron-on badge for your jean jacket.

I swear you post that shit constantly.

Yeah yeah....I know I'm a baby and crying and tears and all that crap - blah blah blah.

you do know just about everything in the UC4 demos we've seen reacts to physics and are rendered? Everything has a weight, even the animation system is so advanced that the characters can stumble over objects in the scene, or when the enemies jump off the back of the bikes they push the bikes and you can see the backs slide while the drivers compensate. The rice bags use a fluid deformation technique since they aren't doing every grain of rice in the physics system when the rice bags get shot, but the rice pours out of them like a fluid.

The only thing that PC games will have on UC4 currently are super detailed assets, but UC4 is still a technical marvel.

you do know just about everything in the UC4 demos we've seen reacts to physics and are rendered? Everything has a weight, even the animation system is so advanced that the characters can stumble over objects in the scene, or when the enemies jump off the back of the bikes they push the bikes and you can see the backs slide while the drivers compensate. The rice bags use a fluid deformation technique since they aren't doing every grain of rice in the physics system when the rice bags get shot, but the rice pours out of them like a fluid.

The only thing that PC games will have on UC4 currently are super detailed assets, but UC4 is still a technical marvel.

Full blackace level Lemming huh? Why would I make a thread and in my first post say that I have pretty much been ignoring the Xbox One. And then in a "Top 5 games so far this year" thread only 1 of my 5 top games is even playable on Xbox One and it's a multiplat. Your claims make no sense. Just because I disagree with you 99.999% of the time doesn't mean I'm a Lemming. And before you even mention that "You said you hate Cows" thing, I have said dozens of times now that my problem is with you and not Cows. Hell, by my purchase and gaming history I am 10X the Cow you are....

I can't remember you posting your PS4 pics. And do you love when someone owns your ass every time??? Keep playing that "Lem" card dumbass. Your tears are delicious.

Now go ahead and prove me wrong. Lolmentos.

@tormentos: I'm talking about ground physics you idiot.

Can you pick up objects in the environment like in SC? no? didn't think so. Objects are fully rendered has physics items in the game. Deflating rice bags? Not only do those exist in SC, but you can actually interact with them, pick them up, toss them around and they react to gravity, or lack thereof, like you'd expect.

bu-bu-bu-bu-but my rice bag expansions,

You mean the same PS4 that runs witcher3 at 20 fps with less effects?

The same PS4 that will be running the ancient FO4 at 30 fps without real mods?

The same PS4 that runs almost all demanding games at the above terribleness?

Reah great tech to push. LOL.

You're comparing games with underwear models, what kind of slimy turd are you

@tormentos Your comparison is pretty bad. The thing he points are pretty objective as in they're easily observable and factual. The things you pointed are purely subjective. Even then, some people would argue a woman with a square jaw looks better than one with a less prominent one. You can't really argue that a lack of dynamic lighting is better technically than the addition of it.

On your defense, he took a shitty screencap.

Yes @tormentos like that downgrade and all the ones for the other UC games.

@tormentos:

Leave the young woman alone. She is not here to reply back from your criticisms.

So what? SC has a fully animated skeleton and motion capture with full locomotion effects and physics reaction to objects aswell, in a full fledged open galaxy on a server, not in a linear, static campaign..

And since we're on the topic of body mehcanics, SC even has a limbic damage system with 10 points of contact that can affect how you play and interact with items, bleeding and so forth.

What happens when Drake gets shot in Uncharted 4? Oh right, he limbs abit, regardless of shot location, and autoregens a few seconds latter. Technical marvel there.

Mmmm, not sure if technical marvel is the word I would use. Probably really good for being on console is more appropriate. In game physics has been around for a long time now, Half Life 2 had a pretty good physics engine with weighted objects, then gary's mod just went nuts with that.

So what? SC has a fully animated skeleton and motion capture with full locomotion effects and physics reaction to objects aswell, in a full fledged open galaxy on a server, not in a linear, static campaign..

And since we're on the topic of body mehcanics, SC even has a limbic damage system with 10 points of contact that can affect how you play and interact with items, bleeding and so forth.

What happens when Drake gets shot in Uncharted 4? Oh right, he limbs abit, regardless of shot location, and autoregens a few seconds latter. Technical marvel there.

The limb damage isn't anything to be too happy about, its not exactly new or advanced. Those are more gameplay elements and not really technical feats. I still haven't seen anything in SC that has damage and physics for just about everything in a scene and can affect animations in a realistic way.

And.? is not like Uncharted don't have them in fact many games simulate skeleton with a tons of bones,why you think the animation look so great when they walk.

Again what does it serve you to have those on a game that you regen easily.?

Yeah if ND did that i am sure you would not enjoy the game,shooting you on an arm in real world will leave you without that one to move or use,worse on a leg,or worse on the torso,is a game after all not everything has to be 100% accurate again how many battles have you seen on space you fool.?

Yeah it is so real to fight in space technical marverl..lol