Uncharted 4 sales surpass Halo 5...a new king arrives(Naughty Dog)

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#1  Edited By StrongBlackVine
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Lems last stand of using Halo as a shield has been destroyed.

"It’s both the first and final new adventure to arrive on PS4 for developer Naughty Dogs’ flagship series (although the remastered trilogy came to PS4 in October last year). In terms of debut week sales ‘Uncharted 4’ is by far the most successful launch in the series beating ‘Uncharted 3: Drake’s Deception debut week by 66%."

https://www.chart-track.co.uk/?i=2415&s=1111

Watch Uncharted 4 do 1 million NPD. Deserves every sale too.

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#2 mems_1224
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It's on a system that's outselling the xbone 2:1. Not really something to brag about. Everyone expected it to sell more.

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#3 deactivated-60bf765068a74
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A new King has emerged.

I could see some factors having added to this.

Xbox one being a disaster with gamers and selling less.

343 studio's not making fleshed out campaign's and levels with the heart and soul of halo.

I'm sure Halo 5 was a fine game but I buy halo for Bungie. Bungie made marathon and oni and great fun games, 343 doesn't feel like that.

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#4 mems_1224
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@ProtossRushX: Bungie also made Destiny

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@mems_1224 said:

It's on a system that's outselling the xbone 2:1. Not really something to brag about. Everyone expected it to sell more.

PS2 outsold Xbox over 6:1 and that didn't stop Halo 1 and 2 from outselling every PS2 exclusive besides Gran Turismo. Xbone was still selling at a faster rate than 360 during the same time that Halo 3 released but that didn't stop H3 from having a ridiculous attach rate and selling well over 10 million copies. Halo sells less now because it has declined in quality. Not because of hardware sales.

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@NathanDrakeSwag: it's declined in popularity, there's a difference. The gameplay has been mostly praised and it's one of the best, if not the best, supported games this gen. I'm sure Uncharted is a great one and done experience but Halo 5 is a game you can always go back to and get new content.

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@NathanDrakeSwag: Preach! Now watch him come up with some nonsense in the face of facts. Halo 5 received the lowest metacritic in the series.

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#8 Elpresador-911
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Uncharted 4 will also sweep the awards this year, no game coming out will touch it

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No surprise, halo was not bad tho, was fun playthrough except the ending:P

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#10 QuadKnight
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Only lems are surprised by this.

I remember arguing with lems before Uncharted 4 launched, some tried saying UC4 wouldn't surpass Halo 5 in sales lol.

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@mems_1224: This is the UK one of two major markets where Xbox One is competitive.

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#12 Blabadon
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Was gonna say, this shit finally happened huh?

I remember being the dude who had the expensive ass PS3 just for Drake's Fortune, the system without anything worthy in split screen, while everyone I knew had a 360 and Halo 3 and actively brought controllers over for long multiplayer sessions. It's weird now, seeing as no one I know irl actively cares about Halo 5 as much as they'd rather boot up Halo 3 on MCC or hell, ask me how Uncharted 4 is. Anecdotes are anecdotes, but they're fun.

To be compared to Halo is no small feat, it's something that's been happening to the franchise since its launch and to surpass it is awesome in its own right. TC being a tool is a given at this point, so whatever, that aside I'd say these are the best single player and multiplayer games this generation so far.

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#13  Edited By StrongBlackVine
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As a bonus Uncharted 4 sold 4 times as much as Rise Of the Tomb Raider.

Also Ratchet & Clank holding strong in the top 5 while Quantum Flop tumbles to the bottoms of the charts.

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#14 Ten_Pints
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That's what you get when you release an uninspired console with uninspired games.

You need to out do your previous efforts to keep people interested, Microsoft has just been releasing stuff that's just OK. Hard to be enthusiastic with that.

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#15 Stevo_the_gamer  Moderator
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What does a strong weekly debut in the UK with Uncharted have anything to do with Halo?

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#16  Edited By mems_1224
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@Blabadon: yea but MS has also milked Halo into the ground. There has been a Halo game every year for like the last 8 years as well as movies, comics, toys and books. Uncharted still isn't and will never be that kind of franchise. It's a shame because Halo 5 is probably the best playing Halo game but it just feels like 343 barely missed the mark because of that crappy campaign.

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#17 Cloud_imperium
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Well deserved.

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#18 StrongBlackVine
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@Stevo_the_gamer: You don't consider Uncharted surpassing Halo as something worth talking about?

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#19  Edited By tormentos
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@mems_1224 said:

It's on a system that's outselling the xbone 2:1. Not really something to brag about. Everyone expected it to sell more.

Halo 3 bitch slapped Halo 5 sales,and the 360 had a smaller user base than the xbox one when it got Halo 3,so the user base is not an excuse,the xbox since 2014 had more than 1 million users on UK,by the time it Halo 5 hit it was closer to 2 yet Halo 5 only did 160 on its debut Halo 3 did basically double those numbers.

It exceeded Uncharted 3 by 66% in UK by the time Uncharted 3 came out the PS3 had more than 60 million units sold world wide,and the user base in UK was bigger than it is now for the PS4.

So the 2 to 1 excuse is useless the game is selling like that because a higher % of people inside the user base want the game compare to how many wanted Uncharted 3,the same for Halo 5 which had a bigger user base yet it sold way less than halo 3 did.

@mems_1224 said:

@NathanDrakeSwag: it's declined in popularity, there's a difference. The gameplay has been mostly praised and it's one of the best, if not the best, supported games this gen. I'm sure Uncharted is a great one and done experience but Halo 5 is a game you can always go back to and get new content.

It declined in popularity because it declined in quality.

First halo on 360 Halo 3 had 94 on Meta first Halo on xbox one Halo 5 has 84 on meta,the chapter before Halo 5 halo 4 has 87% this series use to be over 90% now they are not Halo is just an 80+ series now much like Forza.

That is funny considering uncharted content will always be free and they already have it map for years.

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@tormentos: cool story bro. There, I acknowledged your existence. You can stop stalking me now

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#21 StrongBlackVine
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@mems_1224: Maybe not, but Naughty Dog themselves are every bit as big as Halo/Bungie were. Maybe more impressive considering they have two AAA IPs at the same time. Uncharted 4 will sell 10 million and TLOU2 will probably be the biggest exclusive of the generation.

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@StrongBlackVine said:

@Stevo_the_gamer: You don't consider Uncharted surpassing Halo as something worth talking about?

Hm.

Maybe I'm tired and missing it, but where in the link does it mention anything about surpassing Halo?

Secondly, when has the Uncharted series ever been considered not a big selling franchise?

Thirdly, posturing/pandering to sales as a form of "winning/ feel good" is one of the lowest forms to sink too within the SW debates.

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#23 rrjim1
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Big Deal! When Uncharted Boring sell over 4 million, then I will be impressed. Halo 5 has sold over 2 million with only half as many Xbox ones than PS4.

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@StrongBlackVine: lmao you are kidding yourself if you think Uncharted has ever come close to Halo at its peak. Halo was a cultural event.

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#25  Edited By StrongBlackVine
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@mems_1224: I never said that. I said Naughty Dog as a studio is on that level.

Can't think of any other studios with two IPs this hot.

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#26 mems_1224
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@StrongBlackVine: of course you cant because you don't play games

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#27 StrongBlackVine
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@mems_1224: No it because no other studio is doing it. Bethesda(Fallout, Elder Scrolls) and Rockstar(GTA, Red Dead Redemption) have two hot IPs, but they are not made by the same studios.

Naughty Dog is in a class by themselves right now.

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#28 SecretPolice
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Crazy cowing 24/7, mang that's a lot of piles of manure, Quick, somebody open a window in here. :P

Anywho, WarZone alone > UCMovie 4.

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#29 StrongBlackVine
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@SecretPolice: 93 > 84.

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#30  Edited By mems_1224
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@StrongBlackVine: fallout and elder scrolls are the same studio. Blizzard, ubisoft Montreal, Bioware. There are plenty of developers.

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#31 SecretPolice
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@StrongBlackVine:

Actual superior game-play > some young skull full of mush paid for opinion. :P

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#32  Edited By Legend002
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@StrongBlackVine said:

@mems_1224: This is the UK one of two major markets where Xbox One is competitive.

PS4 is killing Xbone in the UK. I wouldn't even call it competitive when MS themselves stated that their current situation there is bad.

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#33  Edited By StrongBlackVine
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@mems_1224: The games need high scores and good sales so that eliminates Ubisoft. Plus Ubie uses tons of studios to make their games. That is publisher not really a studio. Not sure Dragon Age classifies as a hot IP either so Bioware is questionable. Blizzard yes.

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@StrongBlackVine said:

@SecretPolice: 93 > 84.

84>73

FPS vs FPS :P

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@StrongBlackVine said:

@mems_1224: Maybe not, but Naughty Dog themselves are every bit as big as Halo/Bungie were. Maybe more impressive considering they have two AAA IPs at the same time. Uncharted 4 will sell 10 million and TLOU2 will probably be the biggest exclusive of the generation.

never a truer word has been said

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#36  Edited By mems_1224
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@StrongBlackVine: oh shit, sorry dude. I wasn't aware of the arbitrary moving goal posts you set.

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#37 StrongBlackVine
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@mems_1224: Not my fault you didn't know the difference between a studio and publisher. I didn't move goalposts I simply clarified what I meant by hot. Great sales and elite scores.

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#38 mems_1224
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@StrongBlackVine: didn't list a publisher

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#39 Syn_Valence
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Great sales for a great game. Much better then that Halo trash. Even the Multiplayer is better and its not even in its final form. Hip hip MOOOOOOOOO!!!

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#40  Edited By Heil68
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Salty lem canned responses coming in....bu bu bu

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#41 jcrame10
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@mems_1224: actually uncharted 4s multiplayer has tons of content, it will take probably 50-100 hours to unlock all the weapons, perks, boosters, and customization items.

On top of that, they are putting in new game modes, co-op, new maps, new mysticals and new customization items all for free over the next coming year.

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#42  Edited By Pray_to_me
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Not a surprise. Halo 5 is a dud, just like Xbox one.

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#43 mems_1224
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@jcrame10 said:

@mems_1224: actually uncharted 4s multiplayer has tons of content, it will take probably 50-100 hours to unlock all the weapons, perks, boosters, and customization items.

On top of that, they are putting in new game modes, co-op, new maps, new mysticals and new customization items all for free over the next coming year.

except no one cares about uncharted's multiplayer

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All Hail Naughty Gods, the mighty Halo Slayer...

The AAAAe 10/10 Essential exclusive game topped it all off. A marvel of modern day gaming.

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@rrjim1 said:

Big Deal! When Uncharted Boring sell over 4 million, then I will be impressed. Halo 5 has sold over 2 million with only half as many Xbox ones than PS4.

Oh please dude Uncharted 1,2 and 3 sold 21 million units as of jun 2015,that was before the Uncharted collection and without counting the Vita version.That is like 7 million per chapter exactly so 4 million should be a piece of cake,hell has Halo 5 sold 4 million copies.?

Yeah Killzone SF sold 2.1 million copies on a 4.2 million user base,that is a 50% attach rate compare that to Halo 2 or 3 million inside a 19 million units user base which is what the xbox one had by holiday 2015.

By the way Halo 3 sold way better and the xbox 360 was like 14 million when Halo 3 launched,it sold better on a better user base.

@mems_1224 said:

@StrongBlackVine: lmao you are kidding yourself if you think Uncharted has ever come close to Halo at its peak. Halo was a cultural event.

Halo was the game for xbox,just like GT once was for PS but both pass its prime and now they are not a shadow of what they use to be.

@badtaker said:

84>73

FPS vs FPS :P

Hahahahaaa Big IP vs Big IP 93 >>>> 84..lol

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#46  Edited By Jagoff
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Finally. Now you'll be able to sleep at night knowing your favourite piece of plastic is doing better than another piece of plastic. I know how much this matters to you man.

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#47 StrongBlackVine
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@rrjim1: 4 million is nothing for Uncharted. UC2 and UC3 combined for around 17 million sales. Uncharted is now bigger than Gears and Halo and so is The Last Of Us.

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#48 StrongBlackVine
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@jagoff: Your passive-aggressive tone is noted. Sorry Xbox IPs are going down the shitter while PS4 exclusives are thriving right now.

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#49 Heil68
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@StrongBlackVine said:

@rrjim1: 4 million is nothing for Uncharted. UC2 and UC3 combined for around 17 million sales. Uncharted is now bigger than Gears and Halo and so is The Last Of Us.

That's right, now Naughty Dog shall forever be known as single handily beating all MS exclusives.

Impressive.

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#50 Blabadon
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@mems_1224: you're not wrong, it definitely suffered from Halo 4, the MCC, lack of Bungie, and the One being the One, it's just the change is definitely a memorable moment as someone with investment in both franchises.

Speaking of MCC, I'm continuing on with Halo 2 Anniversary on Hard and I think it'll be possible alone as it's not too difficult from here. I've been playing it in co-op before but that friend is out of town for a bit. From what you remember, how hard are 3 and 4's campaigns solo on Hard?