VALVE says most PC gamers' rigs can't touch next gen consoles, OH NO!

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#401 sethman410
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If you want a survey that imo can be used in system wars, then it should include only hardcore PC gamer's specs. Not all of the PCs out there... I bet that 47% is as large as all consoles combined in terms of number of users. 


EDIT: I bet that 53% are just casual PC users and I bet that 47% has more gamers than all consoles combined. So, I think PC is actually winning here by a large margin.

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#403 BeardMaster
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Look, I have a pre-built Dell XPS 420 computer that has a 8 year old graphics card and looks x3 better than current gen consoles. And so far from the gameplay videos of next gen consoles, the games on my computer just look as good if not better... sethman410

 

thats pretty impressive considering no such card exists.

 

or are you parodying hermits and how they always make stuff up and overstate things?

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#404 sethman410
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[QUOTE="sethman410"]Look, I have a pre-built Dell XPS 420 computer that has a 8 year old graphics card and looks x3 better than current gen consoles. And so far from the gameplay videos of next gen consoles, the games on my computer just look as good if not better... BeardMaster

 

thats pretty impressive considering no such card exists.

 

or are you parodying hermits and how they always make stuff up and overstate things?

It's HD radeon 3800 series. Sorry I meant it's a 6 year old graphics card.
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#405 KungfuKitten
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[QUOTE="Cranler"][QUOTE="mitu123"]Those people need to f***ing upgrade!!! It's like still having Windows XP...

wis3boi

The reqs on the most popular pc games are very low. The need to upgrade just isnt there yet.

next gen they'll need to change

My brother has a dual core (and 2 GB DDR3, 5850 graphics card) that runs BF3 and Guild Wars 2 and Company of Heroes 2 at 1366 x 768 OKish. It is possible to run any game, with the highest requirements, on a dual core PC. As long as you don't want max settings.
That surprised me too.

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#406 Rage010101
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So console peasants are still angry that almost all pc gamers have better hardware than current get hardware?  How long do you think it'll take before everyone has better hardware than nextgen consoles?  Take into consideration that the 360 had better hardware than PC's for about a month when it first released (Did not mention PS3 since it was outdate right out of the gate).  Now with this new generation of consoles, they have been absolete straight out of the gate 2-3 years ago.  Also, take into consideration that Steam does not represent PC gaming as a whole.

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#407 lilnazar
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It's kinda ironical Valve is saying it when they are mostly releasing their games on PC than on consoles. 

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#409 m3Boarder32
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Look, I have a pre-built Dell XPS 420 computer that has a 8 year old graphics card and looks x3 better than current gen consoles. And so far from the gameplay videos of next gen consoles, the games on my computer just look as good if not better... sethman410
Wow, I have a i7 3770, GTX 670, and 16 GB RAM. And even like that I think consoles look just as good on my Plasma
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#410 Cyberdot
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Many Steam users are using it to chat with their friends. What kind of computers do you think these people are using? That's right, crappy PCs and laptops.

freedomfreak and charizard are using Steam for that. Having these people on there is not helping the survey, so it's severely inaccurate.

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#411 lundy86_4
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so it's severely inaccurate.

Cyberdot

If the sample size is adequate, then no.

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#412 freedomfreak
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freedomfreak and charizard are using Steam for that. Having these people on there is not helping the survey, so it's severely inaccurate.Cyberdot
Yeah, I only use steam on my phone. Wanna explain how that works? Not to mention I didn't participate in this survey. Good grief.
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#413 blackace
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There are still more PC gamers with systems stronger than PS4/Xbone than there are people who own a PS4 or Xbone. And that population will continue to riseSilenthps
That's a stupid comment since the PS4 and XBox One hasn't even launched yet. So of course there are more PC gamers with stronger systems. There's probably only a 100 or less people who actually have a PS4 or XBox One right now. There are well over 150 million PS3 and XBox 360 owners however.
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#414 psymon100
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I'll take Xenogears over "Supreme Commander" anyday... "If it doesn't require a minimum of 42 hotkeys it's not hardcore!" :lol:Spartan070

You should play Supreme Commander man, it's awesome. 

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#415 clyde46
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[QUOTE="Cyberdot"]freedomfreak and charizard are using Steam for that. Having these people on there is not helping the survey, so it's severely inaccurate.freedomfreak
Yeah, I only use steam on my phone. Wanna explain how that works? Not to mention I didn't participate in this survey. Good grief.

You need to have a game attached to your account to use the community aspect of Steam. Just sayin'
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#416 clyde46
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[QUOTE="Spartan070"] I'll take Xenogears over "Supreme Commander" anyday... "If it doesn't require a minimum of 42 hotkeys it's not hardcore!" :lol:psymon100

You should play Supreme Commander man, it's awesome. 

We should have another game of that.
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#417 freedomfreak
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You need to have a game attached to your account to use the community aspect of Steam. Just sayin'clyde46
I don't even know if I have that. Downloaded the app, logged in, and I just use it to chat with people.
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#418 clyde46
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[QUOTE="clyde46"]You need to have a game attached to your account to use the community aspect of Steam. Just sayin'freedomfreak
I don't even know if I have that. Downloaded the app, logged in, and I just use it to chat with people.

Have you used Steam on a PC before?
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#419 freedomfreak
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Have you used Steam on a PC before?clyde46
Ages ago.
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#420 sethman410
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[QUOTE="sethman410"]Look, I have a pre-built Dell XPS 420 computer that has a 8 year old graphics card and looks x3 better than current gen consoles. And so far from the gameplay videos of next gen consoles, the games on my computer just look as good if not better... m3Boarder32
Wow, I have a i7 3770, GTX 670, and 16 GB RAM. And even like that I think consoles look just as good on my Plasma

How is that even possible? Do you just make up bs? Oh, right, nevermind. Last night, I was told you are just a fakeboy. That's not technically possible. It cannot look as good as your PC...

 

EDIT: Also, are you telling me that you cannot hookup your pc to plasma? LOL. You just lost the argument. 

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#421 clyde46
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[QUOTE="clyde46"]Have you used Steam on a PC before?freedomfreak
Ages ago.

Not an issue, as long as you have at least one game attached to your account you can use the community feature. I had the same issue with a friend so I told him to download TF2 since its free and then BOOM he could start chatting with me.
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#422 clyde46
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[QUOTE="m3Boarder32"][QUOTE="sethman410"]Look, I have a pre-built Dell XPS 420 computer that has a 8 year old graphics card and looks x3 better than current gen consoles. And so far from the gameplay videos of next gen consoles, the games on my computer just look as good if not better... sethman410
Wow, I have a i7 3770, GTX 670, and 16 GB RAM. And even like that I think consoles look just as good on my Plasma

How is that even possible? Do you just make up bs? Oh, right, nevermind. Last night, I was told you are just a fakeboy. That's not technically possible. It cannot look as good as your PC...

Don't feed the troll, just adblock him and move along.
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#423 norrel2007
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NO!

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#424 freedomfreak
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[QUOTE="freedomfreak"][QUOTE="clyde46"]Have you used Steam on a PC before?clyde46
Ages ago.

Not an issue, as long as you have at least one game attached to your account you can use the community feature. I had the same issue with a friend so I told him to download TF2 since its free and then BOOM he could start chatting with me.

I think I have TF2 on there. Not sure.
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#425 sethman410
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Edited my previous post in case you missed it.
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#426 MonsieurX
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[QUOTE="m3Boarder32"][QUOTE="sethman410"]Look, I have a pre-built Dell XPS 420 computer that has a 8 year old graphics card and looks x3 better than current gen consoles. And so far from the gameplay videos of next gen consoles, the games on my computer just look as good if not better... sethman410

Wow, I have a i7 3770, GTX 670, and 16 GB RAM. And even like that I think consoles look just as good on my Plasma

How is that even possible? Do you just make up bs? Oh, right, nevermind. Last night, I was told you are just a fakeboy. That's not technically possible. It cannot look as good as your PC...

 

EDIT: Also, are you telling me that you cannot hookup your pc to plasma? LOL. You just lost the argument. 

It doesn't fit in his cabinet :(
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#427 NFJSupreme
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[QUOTE="sethman410"]

[QUOTE="m3Boarder32"] Wow, I have a i7 3770, GTX 670, and 16 GB RAM. And even like that I think consoles look just as good on my PlasmaMonsieurX

How is that even possible? Do you just make up bs? Oh, right, nevermind. Last night, I was told you are just a fakeboy. That's not technically possible. It cannot look as good as your PC...

 

EDIT: Also, are you telling me that you cannot hookup your pc to plasma? LOL. You just lost the argument. 

It doesn't fit in his cabinet :(

 

more like he doesn't have a PC lol

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#428 psymon100
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[QUOTE="psymon100"]

[QUOTE="Spartan070"] I'll take Xenogears over "Supreme Commander" anyday... "If it doesn't require a minimum of 42 hotkeys it's not hardcore!" :lol:clyde46

You should play Supreme Commander man, it's awesome. 

We should have another game of that.

Yeah bro. I just have to fit my PC in my cabinet first. 

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#429 m3Boarder32
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[QUOTE="MonsieurX"][QUOTE="sethman410"] How is that even possible? Do you just make up bs? Oh, right, nevermind. Last night, I was told you are just a fakeboy. That's not technically possible. It cannot look as good as your PC...

 

EDIT: Also, are you telling me that you cannot hookup your pc to plasma? LOL. You just lost the argument. 

NFJSupreme

It doesn't fit in his cabinet :(

 

more like he doesn't have a PC lol

Sure do
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#430 Cranler
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Whats funny though is that theres many more pc gamers today that have a pc capable of playing the latest games than there were during the pc's so called golden age in the late 90's early 2000's. 45% of rigs in the survey has a quad core or better btw.

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#431 Rocker6
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[QUOTE="NFJSupreme"]

[QUOTE="MonsieurX"] It doesn't fit in his cabinet :(m3Boarder32

 

more like he doesn't have a PC lol

Sure do

I feel ashamed knowing we own the same graphics card... :(

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#432 lundy86_4
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Sure do...m3Boarder32

What does your house and car look like, Gio? Get rid of the shiity BMW, yet?

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#433 lowe0
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more like he doesn't have a PC lol

NFJSupreme
Does this tactic EVER pan out for you guys? You'd think you'd learn to stop doing it after the first few colossal backfires....
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#434 Cruxis27
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God, I forgot how annoying this forum is.

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#435 lundy86_4
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[QUOTE="NFJSupreme"]

more like he doesn't have a PC lol

lowe0

Does this tactic EVER pan out for you guys? You'd think you'd learn to stop doing it after the first few colossal backfires....

Bro, it always works.

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#436 m3Boarder32
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[QUOTE="m3Boarder32"][QUOTE="NFJSupreme"]

 

more like he doesn't have a PC lol

Rocker6

Sure do

I feel ashamed knowing we own the same graphics card... :(

Mine looks prettier tho :P
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#437 m3Boarder32
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[QUOTE="m3Boarder32"] Sure do...lundy86_4

What does your house and car look like, Gio? Get rid of the shiity BMW, yet?

Yep got rid of the 500 Horsepower White Beast
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#438 lowe0
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[QUOTE="lowe0"][QUOTE="NFJSupreme"]

more like he doesn't have a PC lol

lundy86_4

Does this tactic EVER pan out for you guys? You'd think you'd learn to stop doing it after the first few colossal backfires....

Bro, it always works.

Provably false.

Side note: I know who my bros are.  Not you.  Drop the schtick.

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#439 Rocker6
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[QUOTE="Rocker6"]

[QUOTE="m3Boarder32"] Sure do m3Boarder32

I feel ashamed knowing we own the same graphics card... :(

Mine looks prettier tho :P

Damn, can't argue with that! :P

All SW aside, that's one great looking build. You put it together yourself?

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#440 m3Boarder32
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[QUOTE="m3Boarder32"][QUOTE="Rocker6"]

I feel ashamed knowing we own the same graphics card... :(

Rocker6

Mine looks prettier tho :P

Damn, can't argue with that! :P

All SW aside, that's one great looking build. You put it together yourself?

Yah I did, putting them together is kinda fun. Lol Those cages have been glossy white, blue, red, and now textured white lol I own a powder coating company, kinda enjoy that lol. Also those corsair fans come with blue, white, and red rings
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#441 00-Riddick-00
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Except my pc can easily out do ps4 and xbone.
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#442 Spartan070
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[QUOTE="ZIMdoom"]

 

And ultimately this is the problem with PC gamers. They believe in this myth that they are the majority. They aren't. The hardcore, "serious" PC gamer is clearly a minority among all PC gamers.

 

Lionheart08

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Can't believe so many people missed the point.

Yep rofl :P

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#443 Spartan070
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NO!

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Yep, talk to VALVE about that :P
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#444 sethman410
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Hey m3Boarder32, you know you can hookup your PC to a plasma TV, right? Then why are you telling us that your consoles look as good as your PC?
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#445 MonsieurX
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[QUOTE="sethman410"]Hey m3Boarder32, you know you can hookup your PC to a plasma TV, right? Then why are you telling us that your consoles look as good as your PC?

Doesn't fit his cabinet :( Would have to buy a new PC or carry his supah-dupah gaming PC over his huge ass house
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#446 darksusperia
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[QUOTE="MonsieurX"][QUOTE="sethman410"]Hey m3Boarder32, you know you can hookup your PC to a plasma TV, right? Then why are you telling us that your consoles look as good as your PC?

Doesn't fit his cabinet :( Would have to buy a new PC or carry his supah-dupah gaming PC over his huge ass house

while trying to avoid his 7K watch being caught on the cabinet while trying to maneuver his pc around the huge ass house.
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#447 m3Boarder32
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[QUOTE="MonsieurX"][QUOTE="sethman410"]Hey m3Boarder32, you know you can hookup your PC to a plasma TV, right? Then why are you telling us that your consoles look as good as your PC?

Doesn't fit his cabinet :( Would have to buy a new PC or carry his supah-dupah gaming PC over his huge ass house

And pull the TV cabinet away from wall on one side so I can connect the HdMI cable to the receiver, and then pull the other side of the cabinet and connect the power supply to the outlet. It's just not convinient at all, and looks hella ugly
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#448 MonsieurX
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[QUOTE="m3Boarder32"][QUOTE="MonsieurX"][QUOTE="sethman410"]Hey m3Boarder32, you know you can hookup your PC to a plasma TV, right? Then why are you telling us that your consoles look as good as your PC?

Doesn't fit his cabinet :( Would have to buy a new PC or carry his supah-dupah gaming PC over his huge ass house

And pull the TV cabinet away from wall on one side so I can connect the HdMI cable to the receiver, and then pull the other side of the cabinet and connect the power supply to the outlet. It's just not convinient at all, and looks hella ugly

Oh noes all that work implied to have the best experience possible
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#449 sethman410
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m3Boarder32, you haven't answered me. Why are you saying consoles look as good as PC if you never hooked up the PC to your plasma TV that your consoles are currently connected to (assuming that's what's up).  It's not technically possible that consoles look as good as the PC you claim to have...

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#450 slimjimbadboy
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Kinda like saying that the PS2 and Wii can't touch what future nvidia products will produce.

I'm beginning to think that there's a misconception that hermits give two shits about value brand builds others might be using. Hell, I'm completely content using my 580 and willing to wait for the release of the 800 series.