Valve: We'r aiming at cross platform play for counter strike

Thought this was pure good to share on here, valve recently confirmed a new counter strike namaed Counter Strike: global offensive to release next year with updated maps, graphics,trophies and new features on conosles ( PS3, X360 ). in an interview with Gabe from valve when mentioning what the company did with portal 2 and introducing for the first time cross-platform features for both the PS3 and PC, Gabe noted that Valve is indeed thinking and strongly trying to bring Cross-Platform play for counter strike as they want the whole community to play against each other and not in a seperate island.

Gabe does mention balance and diffrent controllers and he does say that their trying to make it work. i guess its a matter of waiting now till we see what they do

The question now is, will it be again between the PS3 community and the PC community? or will the X360 finally be able to catch up and join in?

Do you think a console gamer can win versus a PC owner?

Expect Counter Strike next year

The whole interview is in a video, worth watching : http://www.pcgames.de/Counter-Strike-Global-Offensive-PC-214129/News/Counter-Strike-Global-Offensive-Video-Interview-Crossplattform-Gaming-als-Ziel-und-mehr-840186/

Isn't the new CS console only?

Either way, having console players play PC players would be like having Stephen Hawking wrestle a bear: Horrifying, but I'd be unable to look away.

That is horrible!!

If a PS3 has a mouse and keyboard, the PC user and PS3 user is on even ground.

M/KB vs controller? Not a chance in hell.

Isn't the new CS console only?

Either way, having console players play PC players would be like having Stephen Hawking wrestle a bear: Horrifying, but I'd be unable to look away.

DarkLink77

That's cool, but the first 6 months of the game's community is gonna be terribad.

[QUOTE="DarkLink77"]

Isn't the new CS console only?

Either way, having console players play PC players would be like having Stephen Hawking wrestle a bear: Horrifying, but I'd be unable to look away.

Steameffekt

Ive played CS since 99. Ive played this game more than half of my life, almost daily. The thought of playing vs a player using a controller reminds me of..

.. I got no comparison.

Isn't the new CS console only?

Either way, having console players play PC players would be like having Stephen Hawking wrestle a bear: Horrifying, but I'd be unable to look away.

DarkLink77

I presume if anyone is aware of the difference between mouse and controller it's valve. Keyboard and mouse support potentially ? Probably.Ravensmash

Exactly, if you watch the video Gabe does mention balance and diffrent controllers and he does say that their trying to make it work. i guess its a matter of waiting now till we see what they do

[QUOTE="Ravensmash"]I presume if anyone is aware of the difference between mouse and controller it's valve. Keyboard and mouse support potentially ? Probably.finalstar2007

Exactly, if you watch the video Gabe does mention balance and diffrent controllers and he does say that their trying to make it work. i guess its a matter of waiting now till we see what they do

CS is also aiming to be a competitive game, giving console gamers artificial advantages would ruin that, however giving them none would make the PC players stomp all over them. This is an all round bad idea unless you need M+KB to play with the PC players.

[QUOTE="DarkLink77"]

Isn't the new CS console only?

Either way, having console players play PC players would be like having Stephen Hawking wrestle a bear: Horrifying, but I'd be unable to look away.

charizard1605

Isn't the new CS console only?

Either way, having console players play PC players would be like having Stephen Hawking wrestle a bear: Horrifying, but I'd be unable to look away.

DarkLink77

Its for everything ( PC,MAC, PS3, Xbox)

[QUOTE="finalstar2007"]

[QUOTE="Ravensmash"]I presume if anyone is aware of the difference between mouse and controller it's valve. Keyboard and mouse support potentially ? Probably.GD1551

Exactly, if you watch the video Gabe does mention balance and diffrent controllers and he does say that their trying to make it work. i guess its a matter of waiting now till we see what they do

CS is also aiming to be a competitive game, giving console gamers artificial advantages would ruin that, however giving them none would make the PC players stomp all over them. This is an all round bad idea unless you need M+KB to play with the PC players.

VALVe wants the game to be a competetive game, but they are not trying to replace the real counter-strike (read: 1.6)

The veteran CS community, Source and 1.6 is not gonna take kindly to this game, given that it is on console. If the PC version is anything like the console version, then the console and cfg editing will be disabled, game feel will be butchered and recoil will be patheticly low, like in CoD. If the game is gonna have recoil like CS and CSS, you cant play it properly on a controller. Small, subtle and precise movement is required, aswell as hand eye coordination.

[QUOTE="DarkLink77"]

Isn't the new CS console only?

Either way, having console players play PC players would be like having Stephen Hawking wrestle a bear: Horrifying, but I'd be unable to look away.

finalstar2007

Its for everything ( PC,MAC, PS3, Xbox)

[QUOTE="GD1551"]

[QUOTE="finalstar2007"]

Exactly, if you watch the video Gabe does mention balance and diffrent controllers and he does say that their trying to make it work. i guess its a matter of waiting now till we see what they do

AndersK

CS is also aiming to be a competitive game, giving console gamers artificial advantages would ruin that, however giving them none would make the PC players stomp all over them. This is an all round bad idea unless you need M+KB to play with the PC players.

VALVe wants the game to be a competetive game, but they are not trying to replace the real counter-strike (read: 1.6)

The veteran CS community, Source and 1.6 is not gonna take kindly to this game, given that it is on console. If the PC version is anything like the console version, then the console and cfg editing will be disabled, game feel will be butchered and recoil will be patheticly low, like in CoD. If the game is gonna have recoil like CS and CSS, you cant play it properly on a controller. Small, subtle and precise movement is required, aswell as hand eye coordination.

console players will be dead before they hit 30fps!8)

So if they try to be fair, PC players will ravage console gamers so badly that there wont be a point in playing online if you are on consoles. Other option is to give console gamers such ridiculous aim assist that shooting within five miles of a target will register as a hit.

Both are terrible ideas.

As for catchup in cross platform play? How many PS3 games are cross platform?

360 has Shadowrun.

If you are gonna gloat about a PS3 feature, atleast make sure is not worthless.

[QUOTE="AndersK"]

[QUOTE="GD1551"]

CS is also aiming to be a competitive game, giving console gamers artificial advantages would ruin that, however giving them none would make the PC players stomp all over them. This is an all round bad idea unless you need M+KB to play with the PC players.

KC_Hokie

VALVe wants the game to be a competetive game, but they are not trying to replace the real counter-strike (read: 1.6)

The veteran CS community, Source and 1.6 is not gonna take kindly to this game, given that it is on console. If the PC version is anything like the console version, then the console and cfg editing will be disabled, game feel will be butchered and recoil will be patheticly low, like in CoD. If the game is gonna have recoil like CS and CSS, you cant play it properly on a controller. Small, subtle and precise movement is required, aswell as hand eye coordination.

Are you trying to imply that a PC fps game like Quake and Counter-Strike does not require precision, precise movement of the mouse and hand eye coordination?

Tell that to the guys competing for hundreds of thousands of dollars in the games, right now.

[QUOTE="KC_Hokie"]

[QUOTE="AndersK"]

VALVe wants the game to be a competetive game, but they are not trying to replace the real counter-strike (read: 1.6)

The veteran CS community, Source and 1.6 is not gonna take kindly to this game, given that it is on console. If the PC version is anything like the console version, then the console and cfg editing will be disabled, game feel will be butchered and recoil will be patheticly low, like in CoD. If the game is gonna have recoil like CS and CSS, you cant play it properly on a controller. Small, subtle and precise movement is required, aswell as hand eye coordination.

AndersK

Are you trying to imply that a PC fps game like Quake and Counter-Strike does not require precision, precise movement of the mouse and hand eye coordination?

Tell that to the guys competing for hundreds of thousands of dollars in the games, right now.

Unless the PS3 people are using a mouse and a keyboard, they will be destroyed.

That said, I want to see Xbox 360 vs. PS3. That would be awesome.

That said, I want to see Xbox 360 vs. PS3. That would be awesome.

Wasdie

Maybe ps3 and PC cross platform (since the ps3 can also do Key board and mouse) But 360 vs PC ? :lol: Thats will be such a massacre.The_Pacific

[QUOTE="AndersK"]

[QUOTE="KC_Hokie"]I'm a CS veteran and even lived in a dorm freshman year with one of the co-creators and got to test everything before the general public, but don't act like playing CS is brain surgery.

KC_Hokie

Are you trying to imply that a PC fps game like Quake and Counter-Strike does not require precision, precise movement of the mouse and hand eye coordination?

Tell that to the guys competing for hundreds of thousands of dollars in the games, right now.

Im not saying an FPS game cannot be played on a console. It surely can, but theres a reason they have aim assist. CS has a recoil system unlike most other games. If you are a veteran like you say you are, and not just played the game 10 years ago and havent touched it again, then you should know what i am talking about.

Unless the PS3 people are using a mouse and a keyboard, they will be destroyed.

That said, I want to see Xbox 360 vs. PS3. That would be awesome.

Wasdie

Unless the PS3 people are using a mouse and a keyboard, they will be destroyed.

That said, I want to see Xbox 360 vs. PS3. That would be awesome.

Wasdie

Isn't the new CS console only?

Either way, having console players play PC players would be like having Stephen Hawking wrestle a bear: Horrifying, but I'd be unable to look away.

DarkLink77

[QUOTE="KC_Hokie"][QUOTE="AndersK"]

Are you trying to imply that a PC fps game like Quake and Counter-Strike does not require precision, precise movement of the mouse and hand eye coordination?

Tell that to the guys competing for hundreds of thousands of dollars in the games, right now.

AndersK

Im not saying an FPS game cannot be played on a console. It surely can, but theres a reason they have aim assist. CS has a recoil system unlike most other games. If you are a veteran like you say you are, and not just played the game 10 years ago and havent touched it again, then you should know what i am talking about.

That said, I want to see Xbox 360 vs. PS3. That would be awesome.

Wasdie

This is what i exactly want to see! i personally say no need to play vs PC owners :P. i mean its awesome to co-op with PC owners but not Versus ( still i guess should be fun to try it out ). all i need is a versus game with me on PS3 against a 360 owner. why havent Call of Duty the biggest game of history done this yet is beyond me :cry: to think a game that make a billion $ dosent get many features :x. hopefully Valve be the first one

[QUOTE="AndersK"]

[QUOTE="KC_Hokie"]I'm saying the FPS genre has translated well to consoles and it's not brain surgery just because you use a mouse. Don't take it that seriously. KC_Hokie

Im not saying an FPS game cannot be played on a console. It surely can, but theres a reason they have aim assist. CS has a recoil system unlike most other games. If you are a veteran like you say you are, and not just played the game 10 years ago and havent touched it again, then you should know what i am talking about.

[QUOTE="KC_Hokie"][QUOTE="AndersK"]

Im not saying an FPS game cannot be played on a console. It surely can, but theres a reason they have aim assist. CS has a recoil system unlike most other games. If you are a veteran like you say you are, and not just played the game 10 years ago and havent touched it again, then you should know what i am talking about.

i5750at4Ghz

[QUOTE="Wasdie"]

Unless the PS3 people are using a mouse and a keyboard, they will be destroyed.

That said, I want to see Xbox 360 vs. PS3. That would be awesome.

Randoggy

oh my god people say that? :lol:.. paying makes you a better player at FPS? :P.. very funny. this why FPS's need to go out of the box and finally be universal between systems. make them cross platform!

[QUOTE="i5750at4Ghz"][QUOTE="KC_Hokie"]Plenty of console FPS games have recoil. Have you played more than one console FPS?KC_Hokie

[QUOTE="Wasdie"]That said, I want to see Xbox 360 vs. PS3. That would be awesome.

KC_Hokie

[QUOTE="i5750at4Ghz"][QUOTE="KC_Hokie"]Plenty of console FPS games have recoil. Have you played more than one console FPS?KC_Hokie

Not trying to sound elitist, but really bit would be horribly on a controller. Imagine playing your fighting game of choice with the wiimote, and that comparison wouldnt be far off.

i love the whole idea but well i think they should at least have a separate server so that people on steam arent forced to play with people on ps3 cause the control thing might become an advantage, either way though id still love it cross plat like that :D

[QUOTE="KC_Hokie"]

[QUOTE="Wasdie"]That said, I want to see Xbox 360 vs. PS3. That would be awesome.

dkdk999

FFXI was an exception. Maybe the only exception we'll ever see.

[QUOTE="KC_Hokie"]

[QUOTE="i5750at4Ghz"] No game including all PC shooters have recoil thats anywhere near the scale of CS.AndersK

Not trying to sound elitist, but really bit would be horribly on a controller. Imagine playing your fighting game of choice with the wiimote, and that comparison wouldnt be far off.

[QUOTE="KC_Hokie"]

[QUOTE="Wasdie"]That said, I want to see Xbox 360 vs. PS3. That would be awesome.

dkdk999

Everything is possible, if valve really want it to happen and try to tell both companies i dont see any problem in having cross platform between the two, i think it would be an issue since 360 owners pay to play online while PS3 owners dont. or the possiblity in forcing the owners to pay to play in a cross platform lobby which gets worse for the 360 people in paying twice while ps3 owners pay once unless they have special deals and more reasons or ways to make it happen or not happen :P. i would also say its much easier for sony since they let the ps3 open for 3rd party devs unlike MS