Vanquish kills Gears of War!!!

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#1 thetruespin
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Okay, okay, maybe not a fair comparison, but the following video will make you want to buy this game...

I've seen a few people say they played the demo and thought it was average. Hint: you were playing it wrong. Watch and see how it is meant to be played...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aswf37_pQLE

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#2 siddhu33
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nice thread title...

guaranteed to get people posting.

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#3 marcogamer07
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Does it look good? Yes. Does it kill Gears of War? No way in hell.

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#4 king_bobo
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Well, according to critics the Gears of War series is superior to Vanquish (score-wise), but obviously that is their opinion. As this is yours :)
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#5 Cherokee_Jack
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Haven't seen you in a while...so what is this thread about, exactly?
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#6 elbert_b_23
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its not hard to kill gow its a pretty poor game thats overrated for all the gore
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#7 Bigboi500
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Nah it really doesn't. It's good and all but Gears is still great.

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#8 DarkLink77
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No, not really. They aren't trying to do the same thing.

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#9 Master_ShakeXXX
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TC is doing it wrong. I believe a proper title would be "Gears of War just got VANQUISHED"

:lol:

That said, other then the cover element and genra they couldn't be anymore different. I'm inclined to agree that Vanquish blows Gears away, but that's simply because it's fast-paced gameplay appeals to me much more than Gears' pop-up and shoot gameplay.

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Haven't seen you in a while...so what is this thread about, exactly? Cherokee_Jack
I had to lay low for a whole...
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#11 Wiffle_Snuff
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Vanquish is a rather fun game, I actually bought it today. And I am loving it. But. It's just GoW with the speed increased and a bunch of gizmos which make it so it's almost impossible to die or screw up in this game. I still think Gears is the superior title, but Vanquish sure is fun, heavily inspired by Bayonetta.
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#12 dukenukemownsu
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gears of war kills itself lol, damn duke nukem time to kill clone.
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the excessive bullet time is what makes this game kind of medicore

turns the gameplay into more of a visual thing than a fun experience, bullet time can be fun but too much bullet time will make the game kind of easy, its like batman's xray vision, you can leave it on all game so being able to see everything releases any tension the sneaking around could have made.

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[QUOTE="Cherokee_Jack"]Haven't seen you in a while...so what is this thread about, exactly? thetruespin
I had to lay low for a whole...

So what is this thread about? Check out this Vanquish video? There's a big Vanquish thread not too far back there. It's probably already been posted there.
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#15 Magik85
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Its not even close to any of Gears game.
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#16 mitu123
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Meh, it's good, though Gears 3 would probably be as good maybe even better.

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#17 Master_ShakeXXX
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the excessive bullet time is what makes this game kind of medicore

turns the gameplay into more of a visual thing than a fun experience, bullet time can be fun but too much bullet time will make the game kind of easy, its like batman's xray vision, you can leave it on all game so being able to see everything releases any tension the sneaking around could have made.

savagetwinkie

Normally I would be inclined to agree but Vanquish is such an amazing spectacle to look at in slow-mo that it never grows tiresome for me. Bullet-time has never looked THIS good in my opinion.

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#18 Furbyballistik
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GeOW > Vanquish.....and this is coming from someone who will never buy a 360....i just know a good game when i play one
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#19 Dead-Memories
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that did not change anything, the game is still a boring pos.

it has NOTHING on gears 1. honestly, it's laughable to see them even be compared quality wise.

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#20 Mr_Cumberdale
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that did not change anything, the game is still a boring pos.

it has NOTHING on gears 1. honestly, it's laughable to see them even be compared quality wise.

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How did GeoW change anything? Both are your typical TPS, though Vanquish is just more fast-paced.
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#22 gaming25
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[QUOTE="thetruespin"]

Okay, okay, maybe not a fair comparison, but the following video will make you want to buy this game...

I've seen a few people say they played the demo and thought it was average. Hint: you were playing it wrong. Watch and see how it is meant to be played...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aswf37_pQLE

And after seeing that vid I am completely sold. That looked like a movie.
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#23 gaming25
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GeOW > Vanquish.....and this is coming from someone who will never buy a 360....i just know a good game when i play oneFurbyballistik
[QUOTE="Dead-Memories"]

that did not change anything, the game is still a boring pos.

it has NOTHING on gears 1. honestly, it's laughable to see them even be compared quality wise.

2 different games that are amazing at what they do. There is no need to compare them. But after seeing that vid, imo, it does look like Vanquish is better than Gears imo.
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#24 Malta_1980
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nahh Geow series is still better

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#25 Dead-Memories
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[QUOTE="Dead-Memories"]

that did not change anything, the game is still a boring pos.

it has NOTHING on gears 1. honestly, it's laughable to see them even be compared quality wise.

Mr_Cumberdale
How did GeoW change anything? Both are your typical TPS, though Vanquish is just more fast-paced.

i meant that did not change my opinion. gears 1 however, really made me rethink what was possible on a home-console system back in the day. it blew my mind, a prologue for the quality that was yet to come.
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They're going for two different kinds of experiences. Not really comparable. Vanquish is amazing though.
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#27 standarddamage
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gears 1 however, really made me rethink what was possible on a home-console system back in the day. it blew my mind, a prologue for the quality that was yet to come. Dead-Memories

It did that for a lot of us. It was the first title that made many say "Oh...so this is what next gen will be all about," myself included.

I get to do my own comparison this weekend...just got a text that I get to borrow the PS3 version. Awesome. :D

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#28 savagetwinkie
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[QUOTE="savagetwinkie"]

the excessive bullet time is what makes this game kind of medicore

turns the gameplay into more of a visual thing than a fun experience, bullet time can be fun but too much bullet time will make the game kind of easy, its like batman's xray vision, you can leave it on all game so being able to see everything releases any tension the sneaking around could have made.

Master_ShakeXXX

Normally I would be inclined to agree but Vanquish is such an amazing spectacle to look at in slow-mo that it never grows tiresome for me. Bullet-time has never looked THIS good in my opinion.

well its still more spectacle then fun and thats what i mean, and it doesn't look as good as games like max payne 2 no rag doll physics and stuff littered across the level to knock around = meh slow mo
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#29 gaming25
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[QUOTE="savagetwinkie"][QUOTE="Master_ShakeXXX"]

[QUOTE="savagetwinkie"]

the excessive bullet time is what makes this game kind of medicore

turns the gameplay into more of a visual thing than a fun experience, bullet time can be fun but too much bullet time will make the game kind of easy, its like batman's xray vision, you can leave it on all game so being able to see everything releases any tension the sneaking around could have made.

Normally I would be inclined to agree but Vanquish is such an amazing spectacle to look at in slow-mo that it never grows tiresome for me. Bullet-time has never looked THIS good in my opinion.

well its still more spectacle then fun and thats what i mean, and it doesn't look as good as games like max payne 2 no rag doll physics and stuff littered across the level to knock around = meh slow mo

Max Payne 2? This game looks far better than Max Payne 2, especially the slow motion, there is just a lot more cool things to do in slow motion in this game.
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#30 savagetwinkie
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[QUOTE="savagetwinkie"][QUOTE="Master_ShakeXXX"]

Normally I would be inclined to agree but Vanquish is such an amazing spectacle to look at in slow-mo that it never grows tiresome for me. Bullet-time has never looked THIS good in my opinion.

gaming25

well its still more spectacle then fun and thats what i mean, and it doesn't look as good as games like max payne 2 no rag doll physics and stuff littered across the level to knock around = meh slow mo

Max Payne 2? This game looks far better than Max Payne 2, especially the slow motion, there is just a lot more cool things to do in slow motion in this game.

but its only technical, i think max payne 2 has more charm with rag doll and stuff that gets knocked around. vanquish slo mo is stupid and lasts too long, and recharges too fast. I got bored of it in the demo.

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[QUOTE="gaming25"][QUOTE="savagetwinkie"] well its still more spectacle then fun and thats what i mean, and it doesn't look as good as games like max payne 2 no rag doll physics and stuff littered across the level to knock around = meh slow mosavagetwinkie

Max Payne 2? This game looks far better than Max Payne 2, especially the slow motion, there is just a lot more cool things to do in slow motion in this game.

but its only technical, i think max payne 2 has more charm with rag doll and stuff that gets knocked around. vanquish slo mo is stupid and lasts too long, and recharges too fast. I got bored of it in the demo.

It only makes sense though, being that you're killing robots. You can't expect a robot body to flail around like a human body.

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#32 RavenLoud
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Does it look good? Yes. Does it kill Gears of War? No way in hell.

marcogamer07
In terms of gameplay, I'd say so. I was so bored of Gears that I couldn't even finish the first one. To each his/her own I guess.
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#33 Cruxis27
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I haven't played Vanquish, but judging from that video it looks a lot more fun than Gears of War. Not saying much, mind you.

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#34 savagetwinkie
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[QUOTE="savagetwinkie"]

[QUOTE="gaming25"] Max Payne 2? This game looks far better than Max Payne 2, especially the slow motion, there is just a lot more cool things to do in slow motion in this game.Master_ShakeXXX

but its only technical, i think max payne 2 has more charm with rag doll and stuff that gets knocked around. vanquish slo mo is stupid and lasts too long, and recharges too fast. I got bored of it in the demo.

It only makes sense though, being that you're killing robots. You can't expect a robot body to flail around like a human body.

well there is also not much stuff around that goes flying in mid slow mow or for bodies to fall into, bullet time in this game feels empty, like its just a way to aim better and bring intense moments into a spectacle rather then be intense.
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Just because you take cover in a game doesn't mean its a Gears rip off. GRAW 1 and 2 use a cover system but do they rip off gears of war?

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#36 deactivated-5ef52b89b6fd0
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its not hard to kill gow its a pretty poor game thats overrated for all the goreelbert_b_23
Many reviewers and myself disagree, gears is a very fun game, and yes the gore makes it that much cooler. The head pop from the sniper has not been topped IMO.

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[QUOTE="savagetwinkie"][QUOTE="Master_ShakeXXX"]

[QUOTE="savagetwinkie"] but its only technical, i think max payne 2 has more charm with rag doll and stuff that gets knocked around. vanquish slo mo is stupid and lasts too long, and recharges too fast. I got bored of it in the demo.

It only makes sense though, being that you're killing robots. You can't expect a robot body to flail around like a human body.

well there is also not much stuff around that goes flying in mid slow mow or for bodies to fall into, bullet time in this game feels empty, like its just a way to aim better and bring intense moments into a spectacle rather then be intense.

Why do you call this game a "spectacle"? This game looks great and intense for what it is supposed to do.
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#38 Master_ShakeXXX
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[QUOTE="Master_ShakeXXX"]

[QUOTE="savagetwinkie"] but its only technical, i think max payne 2 has more charm with rag doll and stuff that gets knocked around. vanquish slo mo is stupid and lasts too long, and recharges too fast. I got bored of it in the demo.

savagetwinkie

It only makes sense though, being that you're killing robots. You can't expect a robot body to flail around like a human body.

well there is also not much stuff around that goes flying in mid slow mow or for bodies to fall into, bullet time in this game feels empty, like its just a way to aim better and bring intense moments into a spectacle rather then be intense.

To each his own. I find rag-doll physics to be a bit over-done. Watching in slo-mo as bullets whiz by your head, sparks and chunks flying off of the bots as you shoot them, explosions, particles, etc. all looks amazing in Vanquish, and far more impressive than watching body parts flail around they're made out of rubber.

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[QUOTE="savagetwinkie"][QUOTE="Master_ShakeXXX"]

It only makes sense though, being that you're killing robots. You can't expect a robot body to flail around like a human body.

Master_ShakeXXX

well there is also not much stuff around that goes flying in mid slow mow or for bodies to fall into, bullet time in this game feels empty, like its just a way to aim better and bring intense moments into a spectacle rather then be intense.

To each his own. I find rag-doll physics to be a bit over-done. Watching in slo-mo as bullets whiz by your head, sparks and chunks flying off of the bots as you shoot them, explosions, particles, etc. all looks amazing in Vanquish, and far more impressive than watching body parts flail around they're made out of rubber.

no it doesn't, thats why bullet time is pretty empty, its got pretty good particles but its not that detailed which is why the slo mo kind of blows. You just have ridiculous moves that bring you into slow mo, pretty much every time you aim..
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Vanquish IMO has raised the bar for how intense and fun a TPS can be. And Savage Twinkie, if you actually play the full game you will still die even with slomo, it is a balanced mechanic and does not take away from intensity. On hard, it is the most intense game I've played for a long while. I've had more fun with this game than anything this year, and will replay it many times. It is spectacular and I highly recommend it. I can't believe SW is apparently not appreciating this game. It is SICK.
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Vanquish IMO has raised the bar for how intense and fun a TPS can be. And Savage Twinkie, if you actually play the full game you will still die even with slomo, it is a balanced mechanic and does not take away from intensity. On hard, it is the most intense game I've played for a long while. I've had more fun with this game than anything this year, and will replay it many times. It is spectacular and I highly recommend it. I can't believe SW is apparently not appreciating this game. It is SICK.Deathtransit
I didnt really like the demo, but the scores and you post make me want to play it. How is the game different then the demo, if at all?
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Vanquish IMO has raised the bar for how intense and fun a TPS can be. And Savage Twinkie, if you actually play the full game you will still die even with slomo, it is a balanced mechanic and does not take away from intensity. On hard, it is the most intense game I've played for a long while. I've had more fun with this game than anything this year, and will replay it many times. It is spectacular and I highly recommend it. I can't believe SW is apparently not appreciating this game. It is SICK.Deathtransit

Multiplatform games rarely get appreciated in System Wars. SW is all about exclusives. Dumb, I know, but that's how it works here.

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[QUOTE="Deathtransit"]Vanquish IMO has raised the bar for how intense and fun a TPS can be. And Savage Twinkie, if you actually play the full game you will still die even with slomo, it is a balanced mechanic and does not take away from intensity. On hard, it is the most intense game I've played for a long while. I've had more fun with this game than anything this year, and will replay it many times. It is spectacular and I highly recommend it. I can't believe SW is apparently not appreciating this game. It is SICK.Advid-Gamer
I didnt really like the demo, but the scores and you post make me want to play it. How is the game different then the demo, if at all?

The game just honestly gets better as it goes on. The situations and settings are insane, and it pushes the gameplay to the limit. The demo is a very small taste.
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[QUOTE="Deathtransit"]Vanquish IMO has raised the bar for how intense and fun a TPS can be. And Savage Twinkie, if you actually play the full game you will still die even with slomo, it is a balanced mechanic and does not take away from intensity. On hard, it is the most intense game I've played for a long while. I've had more fun with this game than anything this year, and will replay it many times. It is spectacular and I highly recommend it. I can't believe SW is apparently not appreciating this game. It is SICK.Master_ShakeXXX

Multiplatform games rarely get appreciated in System Wars. SW is all about exclusives. Dumb, I know, but that's how it works here.

Glitchout NV, LOS, many other multiplats get good attention, not as much as exclusives, but alot more than an actual AAA called Vanquish.
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Vanquish seems like a great game, but that video was weak.

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Gears 2 possibly.

Gears 1 nope.

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Haters can not accept this a Japanese TPS game is being as good or better than their beloved western TPS games xD.

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Haters can not accept this a Japanese TPS game is being as good or better than their beloved western TPS games xD.

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or its not with too much bullet time, it was kind of fun at first but got old real quick.
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#49 Kashiwaba
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[QUOTE="Kashiwaba"]

Haters can not accept this a Japanese TPS game is being as good or better than their beloved western TPS games xD.

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or its not with too much bullet time, it was kind of fun at first but got old real quick.

Thank you but I trust GS professional reviewers review more than yours according to them its as good as GeoW 2 so I know it will be great.

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#50 savagetwinkie
Member since 2008 • 7981 Posts

[QUOTE="savagetwinkie"][QUOTE="Kashiwaba"]

Haters can not accept this a Japanese TPS game is being as good or better than their beloved western TPS games xD.

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or its not with too much bullet time, it was kind of fun at first but got old real quick.

Thank you but I trust GS professional reviewers review more than yours according to them its as good as GeoW 2 so I know it will be great.

according to one person... i'm gonna rent it but the demo hasn't impressed me.