Vanquish's influence on the shooter genra is already becoming apparent...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M1YDkLIGtqU(skip to 1:02)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C5mozt7BBDY(skip to :56)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tTLHdKRX-OE(skip to :46)

Three different shooters that are so close to release, implementing sliding mechanics that are both a strategic and offensive maneuver and one that is an integral element of the gameplay? Vanquish definitly played a part in this. Looks like Vanquish, next to Gears, is one of the most revolutionary shooters of this generation. Say what you will about other games doing it first, but Vanquish is the game to both re-invent it into a crucial strategic gameplay element, and to popularise it. Discuss.

Crysis and Vanquish showed sliding at the same place. So no and Mirror's Edge inspired those games more so.

Both Crysis 2 and Vanquish showed sliding in June. You don't make sliding less than a month.

I don't think it's having much of an influence on the genre, it's just another game in a long list of others to use a sliding mechanic.

I don't think it's having much of an influence on the genre, it's just another game in a long list of others to use a sliding mechanic.

the_mitch28

Those three games have been in development since before Vanquish was released.IronBass

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I don't think it's having much of an influence on the genre, it's just another game in a long list of others to use a sliding mechanic.

soapandbubbles

It would have to be popular in the first place to actually popularise something...

Vanquish was ok but it's not the gaming milestone you're making it out to be.

I hope not, wasn't a big fan of vanquish.

[QUOTE="soapandbubbles"][QUOTE="the_mitch28"]

I don't think it's having much of an influence on the genre, it's just another game in a long list of others to use a sliding mechanic.

the_mitch28

It would have to be popular in the first place to actually popularise something...

Vanquish was ok but it's not the gaming milestone you're making it out to be.

This cannot be serious at all:?

Really disappointed at you Master_Shake.

"vanquish invented the sliding mechanic" ahahahahahaaha no SAGE_OF_FIRE

Not invent, but re-invent. Kind of like how Gears took Killswitch's cover mechanics and revolutionised them, Vanquish has done the same with sliding. Come on guys, lets give Vanquish it's due.

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[QUOTE="soapandbubbles"] yeah but which popularised it? when you think of sliding cover..what game comes to mind...yeah vanqiush! soapandbubbles

It would have to be popular in the first place to actually popularise something...

Vanquish was ok but it's not the gaming milestone you're making it out to be.

of course...no one should be surprised. Just like how the developer (shinji mikami) did it with his other game RE4 by popularising the over the shoulder gunplay/quick time events. Guys a genious! soapandbubbles

[QUOTE="IronBass"]Those three games have been in development since before Vanquish was released.soapandbubbles

makes you think it can be implemented that easily? It's not only the game mechanic per se, you have to adapt the level design, the enemies's patterns, make sure it's not sploit-able,etc and then make sure everything works well together.

The last couple of months of development are usually used to polishing the game, getting rid of bugs and so on, not implementing core mechanics.

That they watched Vanquish and decided to implement the sliding because of it it's not a realistic scenario, at all.

[QUOTE="soapandbubbles"][QUOTE="IronBass"]Those three games have been in development since before Vanquish was released.IronBass

[QUOTE="soapandbubbles"][QUOTE="IronBass"]Those three games have been in development since before Vanquish was released.IronBass

makes you think it can be implemented that easily? It's not only the game mechanic per se, you have to adapt the level design, the enemies's patterns, make sure it's not sploit-able,etc and then make sure everything works well together.

The last couple of months of development are usually used to polishing the game, getting rid of bugs and so on, not implementing core mechanics.

That they watched Vanquish and decided to implement the sliding because of it it's not a realistic scenario, at all.

They already had a sliding mechanic in Crysis 2, as made evident in the earlier videos of it. However if you compare this newer video with the old ones you will notice that the sliding mechanic seems to have been developed into more of an offensive maneuver. Vanquish's innovative ideas undoubtably played a part in this.

Brink footage with sliding dated December 2009 IT MUST OF INFLUENCE VANQUISH RIGHT?

[QUOTE="IronBass"][QUOTE="soapandbubbles"] the sliding can be easily implemented years after development..can't you understand that...vanquish is already out with Crysis 2 still in dev! what can't you understand? soapandbubbles

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[QUOTE="soapandbubbles"] the sliding can be easily implemented years after development..can't you understand that...vanquish is already out with Crysis 2 still in dev! what can't you understand? Master_ShakeXXX

makes you think it can be implemented that easily? It's not only the game mechanic per se, you have to adapt the level design, the enemies's patterns, make sure it's not sploit-able,etc and then make sure everything works well together.

The last couple of months of development are usually used to polishing the game, getting rid of bugs and so on, not implementing core mechanics.

That they watched Vanquish and decided to implement the sliding because of it it's not a realistic scenario, at all.

They already had a sliding mechanic in Crysis 2, as made evident in the earlier videos of it. However if you compare this newer video with the old ones you will notice that the sliding mechanic seems to have been developed into more of an offensive maneuver. Vanquish's innovative ideas undoubtably played a part in this.

why is that now only now later in dev do they showcase of this sliding and not in early footages? it can easily be done..without that much adaption...it;s only sliding in open areas. Considering other FPS have used it and how WELL vanquish implemented it...whats stopping them? soapandbubbles

There are videos showing the sliding mechanics earlier.

They already had a sliding mechanic in Crysis 2, as made evident in the earlier videos of it. However if you compare this newer video with the old ones you will notice that the sliding mechanic seems to have been developed into more of an offensive maneuver. Vanquish's innovative ideas undoubtably played a part in this.Master_ShakeXXX

That's just pure speculation. For all we know that could have been planned all along. There's nothingthat indicates that Vanquish played a roled at it.

They already had a sliding mechanic in Crysis 2, as made evident in the earlier videos of it. However if you compare this newer video with the old ones you will notice that the sliding mechanic seems to have been developed into more of an offensive maneuver. Vanquish's innovative ideas undoubtably played a part in this.Master_ShakeXXX

That's just pure speculation. For all we know that could have been planned all along. There's nothingthat indicates that Vanquish played a roled at it.

That is true, I can only speculate. It's rather intriguing though and does indeed make sense if you think about it. My assumptions certainly arn't 100% without basis.

Why are people falling for this obvious bait?MFDOOM1983

That is true, I can only speculate. It's rather intriguing though and does indeed make sense if you think about it. My assumptions certainly arn't 100% without basis.Master_ShakeXXX

There's very little intriguing on a mechanic that was showed earlier, and that had been implemented on another FPS before.

I played the demo for Vanquished... kind of fun for like 10 mintues, but I would never pay 60 dollars for it...

I played the demo for Vanquished... kind of fun for like 10 mintues, but I would never pay 60 dollars for it...

heysharpshooter

Vanquish is a gem most definitely. I was very happy to see that the last two Best Buy's I've went into this past week were sold out of it. Hopefully word of mouth will continue and boost up sales a bit more.

(I will say that I'd take Sam's suite over over the Crisus one any day ;) Leg thrusters )

[QUOTE="Master_ShakeXXX"]That is true, I can only speculate. It's rather intriguing though and does indeed make sense if you think about it. My assumptions certainly arn't 100% without basis.IronBass

Yes, but it's evolved into mechanic that is similar to the way Vanquish used it, and this is apparent in new videos that are released after Vanquish has already been out for a little while. It's certainly not implausible that Crytek was influenced by Vanquish's mechanics and slightly altered their own. The same could be said for the other two titles in my OP. We will of course have to wait a bit longer to see if this new interpretation of the sliding mechanic truly takes off.

[QUOTE="IronBass"][QUOTE="Master_ShakeXXX"]That is true, I can only speculate. It's rather intriguing though and does indeed make sense if you think about it. My assumptions certainly arn't 100% without basis.Master_ShakeXXX

Yes, but it's evolved into a similar mechanic that is similar to the way Vanquish used it, and this is apparent in new videos that are released after Vanquish has already been out for a little while. It's certainly not implausible that Crytek was influenced by Vanquish's mechanics and slightly altered their own. The same could be said for the other two titles in my OP. We will of course have to wait a bit longer to see if this new interpretation of the sliding mechanic truly takes off.

Yes, but it's evolvedinto a similar mechanic that is similar to the way Vanquish used it, and this is apparent in new videos that are released after Vanquish has already been out for a little while. It's certainly not implausible that Crytek was influenced by Vanquish's mechanics and slightly altered their own. The same could be said for the other two titles in my OP. We will of course have to wait a bit longer to see if this new interpretation of the sliding mechanic truly takes off.

Master_ShakeXXX

How do you know it "evolved" and not that it was designed that way from the start? Unless you can somehow prove it, your argument lack any kind of basis other than "it's not implausible", which is not a basis, at all.

system wars is so full of "wow" topics. I mean have you played FEAR? sheesh

Crysis 2 slide came out waaay before Vanquish.

[QUOTE="Master_ShakeXXX"]Yes, but it's evolvedinto a similar mechanic that is similar to the way Vanquish used it, and this is apparent in new videos that are released after Vanquish has already been out for a little while. It's certainly not implausible that Crytek was influenced by Vanquish's mechanics and slightly altered their own. The same could be said for the other two titles in my OP. We will of course have to wait a bit longer to see if this new interpretation of the sliding mechanic truly takes off.

IronBass

How do you know it "evolved" and not that it was designed that way from the start? Unless you can somehow prove it, your argument lack any kind of basis other than "it's not implausible", which is not a basis, at all.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bo_BDMUC8Rk

This is a very early video of Crysis 2. Notice how the slide seen in this video is merely a defensive tactic used to get behind cover. This conflicts with what we see in the brand new multiplayer trailer, which shows the slide as an obvious offensive measure.

Not this again...iAtrocious

What's with the James Van Der Beek gifs as of late? What are these from exactly?