VR is not a focus on Xbox Scarlett and Xbox fans aren't interested according to Phil Spencer!

I remember. They set aside a whole chunk of an E3 dedicated to hyping HoloLens knowing that regular customers were never going to get their hands on it. Then, Phil straight lied out of his mouth about VR and X1X. They had no serious plans for VR, they were only trying to disrupt the market for a competitor like they always do.

That's why I'm glad I don't have to buy Xbox consoles anymore. They lie too much and change strategies on a dime instead of sticking with a plan. Hell, they don't have to develop for VR, just leave the option open for their Xbox customers to try what's already on the market.

The negative reaction to this is just more bull shyte from people.

Their big problems haven’t been totally fixed yet but people are crying they need VR. Or people get butthurt he called it “niche”. Well CDPR have a statement out today about not being worried about Half Life Alyx competition because they call VR niche as well. Are CDPR bad too?

Thank you MS for not putting us though this...

for the Reel gamerzzz... Jazz. :

I love the Trails games but they're a bit hard to recommend.

I love the Trails games but they're a bit hard to recommend. It's best to play them in order or you won't really know what's going on and they're plot and character heavy. There's the Trails In The Sky trilogy which you should play first but you'll need a PC for that. They pop up from time to time at good prices on Steam.

Then there's the Cold Steel games, there's four of those. The first three are on PS4, only the first two are on PC. You'd want to play them next and then there's the Crossbell games in the middle. These are on PC but only with fan translation to English. Confused yet?

I'd say play the Trails In The Sky games if you can. They're 2D top-down isometric turn-based RPG's, fantastic games. If you don't have a PC just play the Trails of Cold Steel games in order on PS4. They are excellent too. I'm playing 3 at the moment and it's fantastic. The Cold Steel games are turn based but they're in 3D. The graphics for all these games are a bit dated but if you can get past that and you like turn based RPG's there's a lot to love here.

What in hell has what you put in bold to do with anything? I told you before I play on multiple platforms the main one being PC. Are you still pretending to be a PC gamer? lmao! Go find a game trailer on Youtube to get enraged over lol.

Sorry dude no cow here I play on multiple platforms. Hey, maybe get yourself a paper round or something you can do after school you might be able to save enough to get a console or something?

Good luck, I'm rooting for you kiddo.

Short sighted Phil flip flops again. Will see how he reacts to scarlet unveiling and ps5 touting PSVR 2. Bet you he’ll change his tune yet again.

MS is a joke

You are part of the 99%. The loud loyalists in this thread are the 1% and some of them don't even own a PSVR. LMAO

Microsoft learnt their lesson after the whole Xbox One and Kinect fiasco at E3 2013.

@BenjaminBanklin: Lol, the best part is how overboard they went with it. MS promised high fidelity VR then straight up acted like they never said it, on top of announcing a whole line of VR headsets that apparently do not exist. There was a bunch of other VR related lies as well. Can't even remember anymore.

@blueinheaven: Thanks for the info bud and yeah my platform is PC. I have the Pro but I use PC as my main platform.

MS can't afford another Gimmick on their side if their loyal fans don't want VR. I mean, can you blame MS for backing out?

@davillain-: The backing out isn't the issue. That just means MS doesn't have the guts to take a risk. Sony clearly does have the guts, on the other hand.

The issue is that MS straight up lied about VR support--repeatedly.

The idea of MS not being able to afford something makes me laugh. They should just make good on their VR promise and allow the available tech out there to be usable on the new system. If they don't want to personally invest in development, that's a separate issue.

C'mon dav you interrupted 2 rabid cows taking shots at MS for making a smart business decision and its hurting their ego's.

PSVR has zero must have games after 3yrs, and VR is niche and a total failure for Sony. It has a 5% attach rate after multiple price cuts.

Sony doesn't even get its top dev to make games for it (ND) so even Sony isn't even fully supporting its own creation, they just thought because the company was hot & selling PS4's like hotcakes that the cows would buy the PSVR in the 10's of millions and that didn't happen.

And not one lem in this thread has asked for VR, its the cows who are upset, and i'm totally enjoying it :)

Its terrible that MS has betrayed you with VR lies especially when you were looking forward so much to VR on the Xbox One X. Terrible indeed.

@Pedro: why do you defend MS so much man? Fact: Phil spencer lies thru his teeth and hooked a bunch of Xbots into the bone x by promoting its “high fidelity VR” capability.

These are the facts. You don’t need to defend every single one of their blunders dude it just makes you look silly.

Yeah VR is trash pretty much.

@pdogg93: Who are these Xbots you are talking about that got hooked onto Xbox because of the promise of VR?

Its definitely no one in this thread as we are all happy about this decision, are you having a brain fart again, VR tends to do that for you cows.

Let me guess you're a Russian cow right?

@i_p_daily: you dimwit xbots are “all happy with this decision”? Lol since you’re speaking on behalf of your braindead brethren, I guess besides having so few quality games to play, your lord and saviour Phil removing any possibility to play VR games is satisfactory to you as well now?

I like you better when you Cry_Daily instead of posting the above.

So few quality games to play, you just perfectly described PSVR without even knowing it lol.

I've always said VR was garbage, that will never change whether MS makes VR or not, so not having any sort of VR is very satisfactory.

Someone needs to study what's left of your brain so scientist can see the lasting effects of playing VR.

@pdogg93: I am waiting for a counter to the fact that 99% of PS4 owners didn't purchase the PSVR and why VR is so critical next gen that its a bad decision for MS to not make VR a point of focus?

@Pedro: Dude, I like you. But you're killing yourself with the numbers here. Just look at the numbers, and do a little math.

This isn't even about Xbox vs Sony. Sony isn't the only other player in the VR market. This is about MS backing out on something they already announced because they can't see how to milk it for Game Pass I guess.

Geez. It wouldn't hurt to at least allow current peripherals and games to be played on Scarlet even if they don't want to join in development. Phil's saying he's just straight up not allowing Xbox gamers to have access to VR, even when supposedly the new mantra is about more games. We'll see if he changes his mind again come E3.

Xbros gonna be missing out on an awesome VR experience. I feel bad for em.

You don't get it, as hot as Sony has been all gen even they have only sold 4million+ PSVR's in 3yrs after multiple discounts. Let's not even talk about the shitty numbers for PC VR kits. There is no point in having VR it would fracture its first party like they did with Kinect, its a waste of resources.

If people want VR there is other places to get those experiences like he said, trust me if VR was a good money making exercise MS would be all over it, but its not, its a wise business decision not to try it.

And? Xbox One still has shitty numbers after multiple discounts but they didn't give up on that. And like I said, they don't have to develop for VR, just make good on their initial promise and allow for VR compatibility. That's all. They don't have to go "all in". Just let what's on the market now be on the system.

I can't imagine how that would break the bank for them, but, Phil doesn't mind turning away customers toward his hardware as it's been his M.O. since he took the reins.

You know very well what I'm talking about so don't try to act as innocent here or deflect by shifting focus to me. No PC gamer has a problem or will ever have a problem with MS or anyone putting their games on PC. Only people that gets butthurt over it are either lems or cows to rub in lems faces which is exactly what you did. Obsidian has been making 'indie level garbage' for almost a decade now. Lastly LOL @ 'PC Gamer' hating on indie games.

That LOL at the end didn't hide your frustration at all on sticking to one narrative. I'm definitely not a PC gamer because....? Yup try to throw some new shit in hopes it will stick. :D

Well according to the total numbers of Xbox 1 sold, it seems like no one wants an Xbox branded systems and will go with PS systems .

@Pedro: “ I am waiting for a counter to the fact that 99% of PS4 owners didn't purchase the PSVR and why VR is so critical next gen that its a bad decision for MS to not make VR a point of focus?”

So you’re saying that 1% of owners bought a psvr... this is your “fact”?

What’s 4 million sold divided by 100million owners? 1%?

Stick to streaming stadia and cheerleading MS - you have no leg to stand on pedro lol

@Pedro: @i_p_daily: are you clowns done embarrassing yourselves yet?

What are the total sales, this should be good lol.

Yeah MS fucked up the XB1 release so that's why the numbers are lower than the competition, whereas VR hasn't and yet its sales tanked hard, so what's VR's excuse?

Its niche and not worth any type of investment, no matter how small. You seem to be stuck on this promise, well all companies promise shit and it doesn't always work out, in the case of VR i'm glad.

You see not one lem is upset by this news and yet all you cows are, but you have PSVR for your needs if indeed you need them, but you just want to bitch at MS, go right ahead it just makes you and all the other cows look sad :(

@i_p_daily: I tried to give those 2 the benefit of a doubt to see MS learned their lesson to never force a Gimmick like they did with Kinect in the first place. Phil isn't dismissing VR entirely, the main focus is releasing Scarlett with games day one satisfaction. VR will come later to him when it's fully mature.

@subspecies: You really think 96% of gamers on the PS4 not being interested is a sign of VRs success ? Seriously?

@pdogg93: My bad 96% of PS4 owners didnt care and still don't care for PSVR and you are here arguing that its critical for next gen.😂 You probably thought Kinect was critical for the Xbox One because it sold to around 40 million on the 360 making almost 50% of the 360 gamers. 🤣

@davillain-: Its amazing how a simple concept can be lost on these Sony loyalists. These fools act as if VR is something that cannot be implemented after the fact.

@Pedro: “ Its amazing how a simple concept can be lost on these Sony loyalists. These fools act as if VR is something that cannot be implemented after the fact.“

Lol ya sure buddy. Keep telling yourself MS has the foresight to implement VR after the fact lololololol.

The fact is Xbox one is a garbage console with shitty games and no VR. MS has resorted to prostituting its games for $1/month (which I am fully taking advantage of), and has completely 180’d their plan of VR.

It was promised on Xbox one x to make them seem like they are competitive in the space and then they killed it leaving tons of new owners holding the bag.

Keep lying to yourself though pedro lol.

Pedro re: Stadia and Xbox one

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@pdogg93: So, I was right. You have no counter to the fact that 96% of PS4 gamers don't care for VR. 🤣😂

@Pedro: you were actually incorrect mr delusions of grandeur.

You said 99% of PS4 don’t have vr, which makes your whole point moot because you can’t do basic arithmetic.

Facts are PSVR is the best selling vr system on the block and it complements traditional gaming very well. Not something your precious xbone can do lol. Those are real facts, not la la land lem facts.

Stick to stadia and Xbox man, you’ve advertised the low bar at which your standards are set LOL

@pdogg93:

Honestly, I don't know where to start with this juvenile drivel. I don't care where MS put their games can you not read? I'm illustrating the utter incompetence of the man whose only job is to make his console competitive.

Where did I say I hate indies? I hate very low quality indie trash so do lots of people regardless of the platform they play on. Please, please learn to read. I'm having to be careful how I reply to you because I know now I'm talking to a child who can't make sense of the most simple English sentences.

Seriously, go back to hating on games you've never played you somehow looked slightly less of an idiot doing that than when you're trying to fake being a PC gamer.

@Pedro: what counter do you need? VR is niche, but it has to start somewhere. Glad to know it’s accessible for playstation owners, unlike Xbox.

Fact is VR was promised by Phil Spencer and then he killed it cause he can’t compete in the space.

Anyways listening to you talk shit while you’re getting choked out unconscious is always amusing pedro.

@Pedro said:

@pdogg93:

*Looks at girl*

I approve of your self ownage.

@Pedro: how is that self ownage? You can’t even get your own facts straight...

I never said VR is the only way to play. It’s a wonderful complementary experience or alternative. It’s nice to have that option on PlayStation unlike Xbox.

I’m If sorry the products you back (stadia and Xbox) make you insecure, but that’s not my problem. I guess for you playing destiny 2 at medium settings must be an amazing experience lol.

@Pedro: there is no bigger examples of a fanboy than when you guys applaud MS for reneging a promise. Hence why lemmings such as yourself are the biggest clowns on this board.

TLHBO

@pdogg93: Seems like the only one insecure is you. You are in a thread about Xbox. You are complaining about the lack of support for VR despite the fact that 96% of the PS gamers don't care for VR but you believe due to some "genuine" concern for Xbox gamers that the exclusion is detrimental to Xbox. Yet I am the one that is delusional.

@Pedro: Yeah, I do think it's successful. At last report there were over 4 million PSVR owners. That number obviously hasn't stopped climbing, if the pattern upholds, which it has so far since the start (every 8 months or so another million sold). That's a solid start for this new tech. A loyal PSVR community exists. Every weekend when I log in to play Firewall Zero Hour, which is basically CS:GO in VR, there are thousands of players, thousands of matches, and I always get a match within minutes. Every time. The game is exclusive to PSVR. That's just one example. Another is NMS. Again, every single time I log in I meet PSVR players, and we link up and have multiplayer sessions. I could on and on. The fanbase is solid, and growing. If you played in multiplayer PSVR games you'd know this. There is no way you can claim with validity that this doesn't equate to a measure of success.

@subspecies: there’s no point in trying to talk sense into delusional fanboys like Pedro. He just follows his master and buries his head in the sand.

Microsoft is going to let other companies do the innovating in VR space then try to play catch up and fail and blame their half hearted attempt on the market. It’s the MS way.

@subspecies: Success? Your measurement of success is the minority of PS gamers who are keeping VR alive on the PS4. Your faction measurement of success seems to fluctuate base on convenience. Throwing all the inconsistency to the side, the fact remains that VR is not a selling factor for consoles now nor would it be next generation as of now. Acting to the contrary is ignoring reality. It literally makes no sense for Xbox division to focus in anyway on VR when they have more pressing issues to address. VR is an addon. It does not require anything from a system besides an output and input(standard in all devices). So, implementation of the tech can be done before or after. It really doesn't matter.

It wouldn't need only the tech .... the software would have to be ported as well. Besides, barely 4% of ps4 users bought PSVR, those figures prove it's just not worth it.

Lmao... look at all the dirty cows crawling out from under their rocks they've been hiding under. Funny a lot of them were nowhere to be seen in the Death Stranding threads.

Anyway, Phil is 100% right. Why waste money now developing a product hardly anybody wants, when they can wait & bide their time until the technology is better. And also, they're not going to waste development resources of their studios making VR games when the audience wants proper games first.

@Pedro: Yeah, success. Look, dude, you asked for an explanation, I gave it to you. The PSVR community has been building at a steady rate since day one. Every 8 or so months another million hop on. I play frequently in VR online multiplayer and never hurt for lack of matches because the community is active and growing. That is successful no matter how you look at it. I've dumped hundreds and hundreds of hours into Firewall, NMS, Sprint Vector, EVE etc. etc. And a crap ton of other PSVR fans have as well, and continue to do so at a steadily growing rate. Go look on the official PSVR reddit if you don't believe me. The community is strong. You can shift goalposts all you want, from 1% to 4%-5% to 10%--to whatever. It doesn't matter. This new tech is attracting fans gradually, at, again, a steady rate. You have no argument that holds water.