Wall Street Journal Confirms That Sony Is Planning PlayStation 4K Announcement and Release This Year

How?

It's essentially an upgraded PS4 no different than an upgraded GPU. They make it a point to use the PS4 *brand* name for this new version of the console because they will make all PS4 software transferable to PS4k and to not confuse the customer.

Sony wants everyone to associate to the PS4k as an extension of the PS4 and not a whole new thing, even tho this could be looked at as the next version of their console iteration only with full BC capability.

Honestly the naming of the console itself, if they use PS4k, is a genius move because it removes the thought process of the consumer that it's something they have to start over with. This will make it easier for people who own a PS4 to upgrade knowing all their games will work and for new customers they will know that there is an upgraded version of PS4 that still has access to that massive library.

I'll put it like this, Sony could have named the PS3...PS2.5 (because of the complete BC with PS2) and still stayed exactly like the PS3 which actually came out. Since the jump in features and tech was such a jump over PS2 it made sense to use an entirely new number indication but this move could be even more successful since it doesn't separate the two versions by indicating a whole new system.

So will there be 2 seperate VR Head Sets then? 1 for the PS4 and one created specifically for the 4.5 as it wont need the extras that the PS4 iteration will need.

*IF* the NX isnt any good then i willl surely spend my money on a ..... PC as i have a PS4, 47"1080 Philips Lumia and have zero reason to upgrade either.

People against this just don't want theiron console to feel obsolete lol

The stupidity of their argument can be applied to almost anything to make them look silly.

• Buy a HDTV this year 1080p 3 HDMI ports, vga and smart features for $500
• Next year a 4k HDTV comes out with all those features plus 3D functionality for $600

"Oh snap, I feel inferior now! Forget the fact that I can watch all the same programs, I am abandoning HDTV since I feel betrayed by (x) company for charging $500 for what was the available tech at the time...New tech has *fractured* me from being able to enjoy my HDTV" :'(

lol it's idiotic at best when you really think about it.

Apply the same logic to TVs, smart phones, cars, MP3 players, refrigerators and washing machines and...oh yes even computers! and you really begin to see how desperate and dumb the argument here actually is.

@tormentos Man , this is not about options . This is not cellphone , browser or PC component. This is a console dammit.

What were consoles famous for aside their plug and play ? Was about universal hardware that didnt need upgrading ( something that consolites criticized PC gamers since forever , how now is a good thing for some is beyond me ) and that games had this universal appeal and polish since they were based on that same hardware/architecture etc.

How is possible to defend such things and coming with Phones,Tablets and PCs as an excuse ? Theres a huge difference when you talking about PHONES and CONSOLES ..let alone PCs and CONSOLES.What that is ? Games !

Lets summarize :

• Which console will be the lead platform for developers ? PS4.5 will be ...
• What that automatically means ? PS4 will get the downgraded versions all the time
• After a year or two differences wont be about resolution only , what else can it be ?
• DX 12 , lighting , textures , depth of field , frames aside resolution and many more technical details
• Therefore PS4 owners wont be playing the same game with less resolution alone .. the whole experience , specially on games that are graphical dependent for their core experience , will be totally different
• Which it will eventually lead on some point to 2 different REVIEWS of the same games which will lead to a competition INSIDE the same brand and between SAME brand owners ! Imagine a PS4.5 owner playing TLOU 2 and call "sucker" the PS4 owner for playing the far inferior version let alone for being the victim buying the original PS4 in the first place... Thats laughable.

Some facts also :

1) They forcing already owners or future buyers to buy the new PS4.5 since differences in games will be getting bigger and bigger as time pass than resolution alone is a big issue since it wont be fair for current owners that already paid 400$

2) Playstation as a brand will lose this tremendous value once had since 400$ for a single generation wont be the case anymore , someone will need up to 800$ or even 1200$ to manage a single generation and keep up with games quality , something that not even PCs doing ( 800$ of a PC it can last up to 4-5 years nowdays , not 3 ) . Consolites criticizing PCs for that matter like forever and now its ok because of more options ? Isnt that a bit hypocritical ? Not a bit actually , super hypocritical i would say.

3) Will lead future buyers ( like i was ) to think TWICE before they spend their money and take into consideration that ... what IF next PS is far better than PS4.5 in 2-3 years from now? Should i wait a bit longer for PS4.6 or PS5 ? Hmm .. And then what if PS5.5 is around the corner ?

The bottom line is i was waiting to buy PS4 with UC4 day 1 ... Now not only this wont happen but ill be waiting to see what this PS4.5 is all about while the chances of buying it are slim also because the value of the system is seriously downgraded.

So , lets see this PS4.5 specs , price , what is this all about and we talk again. For now , im dissapointed big time and i wont even mention what my friends which 99% of them are already PS4 owners have to say because ill get instantly moderated if i use those words.

SONY had to keep pushing PS4 to a 5 years life span and release a new , powerful console , PS5 that is. Traditional , great value stuff and if they really want 2 versions of a console they need to announce that from the very start so people know and decide what they want . Fair and simple.

@AzatiS: you just want to win system wars debates it seems. "Other people are playing a better version of the game than me waahhhhh" is all I'm reading lol

So...no different than multiplat PC games compared to console games now?

Yet the biggest game this gen The Witcher 3 still was reviewed on a console and scored the same across all platforms!

lol your argument doesn't really reflect reality since everything you're saying can be compared and contrasted against any major multiplat game shared with PC to see what you're saying doesn't pan because of a simple power gap. Higher frames and effect and resolution ect... but same scores for games and same games.

From Ori and the Blind forest to MGSV your argument or expected reality isn't what actually happens because of the power gap between platforms. Correct me if I'm wrong but despite Titan X's being on the market, not one multiplat PC to console game has been given different scores this gen. lol relax man, even PS3 games are STILL being supported with PS4 titles now. Sony isn't going to leave it's PS4 customers hanging, that's just delusional, but if you want better graphics closer to a higher end PC you get it with PS4k.

Do you expect Quantum Break X1 *720p*to get a different score than Quantum Break PC?

I don't. Unless there are major issues with gameplay in either version scores won't differ. The quality of the game will speak for itself and be scored, the graphics are just a side bar.

Lets see what happens then in a year or 2 from now and what current PS4 owners have to say ( the ones that will feel dissapointed even , and beleive me there are alot ). Then we can talk again.

Also , did you see any debate ? I dont see any , im stating my opinion on things vand some facts ( for example is fact many current PS4 owners will feel disappointed and its fact consolites the last 15 years accusing PCs for need constantly upgrading etc like was something bad ) and thats all. Time will tell if im right or not. For now , say whatever you want , laugh , flame , whatever.

The constant flaw in your argument. BOLD'

And if you keep trying to use that marker to support your argument points it's always going to fail.

Again, there is no need to upgrade. It's the PS4k/PS4.5 not PS5. All PS4 branded games are going to work together it's simply just the 4 or 4k/.5.

I will expose you hard here , get ready :

Lets say there are 2 VERSIONS of the very same game on the very same 59.99$ price tag with the very same score on metacritic.

The Version 01 has dowgraded : frames , depth of field, textures , physics , filters ,lighting , shadows , is based on DX10 and lower resolution

The Version 02 has : way better frames , way better depth of feild , way more smooth textures , way better filters , lighting and shadows , based on DX12 and excels in almost everything that developers wanted to do better including higher resolution , less pop-ups if not at all etc ...

Now , ask 100 people , because i know you wont answer yourself since the answer is obvious , or 1000 people or 10.000 people , which of the 2 versions they would choose assuming both versions scored the same on Gamespot while cost the same amount of money ? Do you really think anyone will choose the inferior version because it scored the same ? Are you out of your damn mind ?

So which version you would choose ? The inferior one because it scored the same and it cost the same ? Well , we all know deep inside which one we would choose , so please.

Now imagine this issue on exclusives and there you have it. Competition between same brand is coming .. I mean , wtf ! Now imagine the proud PS4 owner that couldnt imagine about a PS4.5 as a possibility how hell feel , specially for people that value this 400$.

Time will tell , we can talk about this after its reveal. Dont defend this yet though , you know its not fair for current owners and you know this wont end well for SONY in the long run assuming this will be the new trend ... upgradable consoles every 3 years ... ! Personally ill stick to PC gaming and problem solved but what is right , is right.

I own a 4k TV

You need to stay out of conversations that you jump in and have no clue about what you're talking about.

You didn't even make a statement because you had nothing to say? Can I read and...what? Why the hell you quote me stupid? SFTU and stay off my quote chain unless you actually got something to say nimrod.

Explain me something ..

If gamers let that pass like its ok you really think SONY wont do that again and end up releasing different versions of consoles every 3 years more or less ? I hope not but that wont be the case.

If PS4.5 is a reality and if PS4.5 will have the acceptance PS4 currently has .. say hi to new console trend , that of "upgrading" the original system every few years.

If you are alright with that , so be it. But at this specific time when there are already 50M users out there ,more or less , of the original PS4 , is a slap in the face for most of them. At least lets agree on that ... and for everything else time will tell so lets see if im right or wrong or whatever.

That wasn't my point, that was YOUR argument lol.

Weren't YOU the one who said the games would start scoring different? Now you are creating a new/different argument to replace your original comment. You didn't actually "expose" anything relating to the point which I was addressing that you originally made up here:

"..it will eventually lead on some point to 2 different REVIEWS of the same games .."

That was what you said correct?

I have no problem addressing any point you bring up but we need to stay on one point at a time for coherency sake lol.

Now you are saying that if they score the same people will choose the superior version lol. Ok different argument but I'll tackle that one too. Once again I'll use PC for my example, PC games that use 980TI and Titan Xs have the best (imput whatever metric you like) graphics among all platforms NOW!

So why isn't everyone gaming on titan X/980TI level PCs? Going by your logic this is what everyone should be doing because as you say, they'd have to be "out of my damn mind" to choose the inferior version correct? lol again, reality check, even PC gamers don't always play on the best settings that even their PREFERRED platform offers.

Would you like to go on Steam and look at the breakdown of hardware based on power and see where most are gaming? How do you think your theory of playing the same games on inferior hardware will hold up in this real life test? LOL we both know the answer don't we?

ANSWER: PS4s are and will be cheaper when PS4k arrives, PS4's still play all the games, and there isn't a need to upgrade until the requirement states a need for a totally new piece of hardware to play I.E something like a PS5. THAT is the same logic PC gamers apply to their systems when new more powerful hardware hits the market. THAT is why a lot of people will choose to buy or stay with the "inferior" versions of games regardless of higher level options being available.

Anything else?

Except, I didn't misunderstand anything idiot.

Me and him are currently having a conversation and at no point has he indicated that I misunderstood anything while replying. You are coming out of the blue screaming, "can you even read?" like a dumbass when you don't even have a point for making that comment. GTFO.

Kick rocks moron, I'm actually having a discussion with someone who has the ability to have a rational debate unlike your dimwitted middle school level one-liner attempts to sound like you have something to say.

Go find some lemming to have a group therapy session damage controlling QB's 720p status on Xbox1 sho...sho...

You avoiding a simple answer right ?

No that wasnt my argument , that was a simple question over your argument that says that it doesnt matter if graphics are better as long as X game scores the same . Who the hell thinks that when it comes to multiplatforms ? Thats why cows laughing over lems this generation about multis or thats why lems were laughing over cows last gen? Who are you kidding here?

Werent you cows laughing over lems for multiplatforms this generation over and over or how PS4 is more powerful and better graphics etc ... Hypocrisy again ? How the hell you do this , exposing yourselfs so hard and now suddenly it doesnt matter when its PS4 vs PS4.5 ? Its the fucking same shit but now will be between same brand products !

Then i asked you something really simple and you avoided to answer. Its a simple version 1 vs version 2. We all know the answer.

Now since you trying to make this a PC discussion , with that logic of yours why someone to buy a PS4 at all ? Care to answer me or youll avoid this question as well ? We know why people buy consoles , majority of them even , right ? Or lets pretend we dont to make it easier for you ? So lets pretend exclusives are not existant to make it easier for you.

So your obsession with PCs and multiplatforms wont make you win this argument ,in fact makes you look bad. I can give you plenty reasons why as well.

For example , the X game for PC has NOT LOCKED settings. Its not what your PC hardware is all about its the game itself what settings can offer you. Its for a reason why consoles having LOCKED settings/resolutions etc. Wake up ! A low end Pc can easily achieve what a PS4 does at 1080p. Lets not make this consoles vs PC again ! This is out of topic.

So you need to decide what your argument really is. Software wise or hardware wise so i know what we talking about and answer properly because all you doing is comparing PC gaming with console gaming when it fits your argument then jumping from hardware to software but then again you choose what kind of software you gonna speak of like exclusives are not existant.

Decide what you want to talk about .... Want to talk about PS4 , PS4.5 and what does that mean for console gaming , compare consoles with PCs , justify what SONY does because of PCs or defend 2 different versions of the same multiplatform game under same console brand because PCs out there coming in different shapes and forms? What the hell you want to talk about ?

You cant hide behind PC gaming forever and keep defending PS4.5 which is a console. There are huge differences between the 2 which if you want to debate that instead, lets do it. But for the sake of this argument , make it straight , what your logic is so we talk on a single subject or 2 , not 102 at the same time.

Sorry, I just don't agree.

I will say I respect how you feel on the matter. I can't tell you how you fell so I just have to respect what you tell me on that subject.

That said, Sony is a company, how can I be mad at them for trying to progress???????

As long as Sony keeps supporting the product I purchased from them as long as reasonably possible why would I begrudge them creating new future products to advance their company? Do you see how your logic is a little counterproductive?

If the company who created the product you depend on getting content from can't progress then that product will also suffer the same result. Let's not forget that history shows that when Sony was at their best they give more not less, remember the PS2?

When sony struggles so will the support of the platforms they created. That is my view point but, I don't really care about sony's success, however I do care about support for the system I invest in. Look at support the wii U now? A more or less DEAD system. Nintendo is saving all games they would have released on wii U for the launch of their next system. TLOU, Ni No Kuni, Beyond 2 Souls all new PS3 titles on heels on their new PS4 system launch, nah brah, I don't think it's a slap in the face. They are trying to move to the next level and everyone who own a PS4 will benefit if they succeed.

Do you know how many times i praised SONY for not letting things go when they had all the excuses to do so ?How many times i praised for example SONY that didnt let PS3 go when they were in a multibillion loss every year of PS3s life ? How harsh of a critic i was with Nintendo because Wii died so fast despite its amazing sales and profits ? You have no idea.

I even praised SONY for PS4 for many reasons. They didnt fall into motion control trend like MS did , provided solid hardware with great price , kept the momentum going , they once again trying new IPs along everything else which i really like.

But what is right , is right .. As i said before its my opinion and i might be wrong for some people but hey . Time will tell if i am. We are close , community already is speaking about it , sales will show if this will be the next console trend or not and if there will be a collision of quality of the same games between 2 identical products under the same brand and so many more issues i can think of.

You dont have to agree with me but stop comparing PS4.5 with PCz , are two totally different worlds ,so i cant accept that as an excuse for SONYs decision.

It seems like you're asking me multiple things so I'll try to navigate.

1. The question about choosing the same game for different platforms but one version being better than the other.

a. I didn't avoid that question as it seemed rhetorical, I was answering the "why" portion and I even game you an example which you didn't seem to address in this post but it's cool.

b. Of course I'd choose the superior version ALL THINGS BEING THE SAME.

c. The flaw in your argument is that all things are not the same. price, need, requirement limit, availability. Your argument and theory seem to totally dismiss any real life situations where your example isn't completely equal in all aspects.

2. Why do people choose PS4 over xbox one? Wow what a question. lol I bet your answer is going to be, "because it's more powerful and you get better performance for the same games." correct? For me, this is a personal question and just like my previous point your argument requires all things to be the same for your theory to pan out.

Once again, all things are not the same, and there are a FEW key reasons why PS4 is favored over xbox one and what you are suggesting is just one.

Reason why people choose PS4 over xbox one and wii U include but not limited to the power advantage are:

a. Price very similarly (better for very similar priced items will be chosen if available)

b. Variety, PS brand has always be known to have a wider variety of games than xbox and is now common knowledge

c. Franchises, PS brand has a larger variety of high profile series than competitors and is known to produce more new quality IP's than competitors

d. Reliability, RROD..nuff said. Most 360 fans own 3 or more system during the generation due to failures.

e. Quality game, Playstation (along with nintendo) are know to produce the best exclusive selection in a generation many winning GOTY awards over all other games.

f. Japanese games, everyone knows xbox isn't the go to place if they want to play the best japan has to offer.

g. longevity, 10yr plus life cycles for every console sony has produced, simply amazing support.

Things that come to my mind when I think about why people choose PS4 now over xbox one, honestly, for me power was NEVER even a factor over the points I have highlighted here so, there you go.

It wasn't long ago people were saying, there would be no PS4 and that Sony was going to go bankrupt.

I don't think Sony needs an "excuse" for a decision to help their company grow when they were on the brink of financial ruin not too long ago.

Playstation is currently the backbone of Sony's company right now. They have to push to be ahead of the curve or risk losing the moment of their main asset. I'll compare PS4k to whatever I choose because it's my view point and my argument from where I am sitting. I never asked you to agree with me, I am simply presenting another perspective that other people might also see from a different angle than you.

Trust me, I'm not Sony shill. I criticize them for the requirement to make PS+ linked to play online. They are not infallible however, I see no wrong in this more they are currently taking. If you don't want it, you simply choose not to buy their other option like people who don't upgrade to the newest smart phone or car model, the newer model will not hurt your current ownership of the product you bought at all.

I'll probably trade in my PS4/all games and prepare for the PS4k

there's gonna be A LOT of preowned PS4s entering the market during the holiday season, there's probably gonna be an overload

I'm pretty sure nothing is changing other than the performance of the box. It's just like pc. Someone having a more powerful pc than me doesn't mean they have to get a different version of the game. They buy they same game they just have better performance. The ps4.5 will run the exact same games, same disks will be released, current games will work on it, nothing about the ecosystem is changing other than performance and some added features of the box. Your current ps4 will not be obsolete. It just might run a game at 30 fps compared to 60 on the 4.5. But if more performance isn't in issue for you then stuck with your ps4.