Wall Street Journal: 'Hope Fades for PS3 as a Comeback Player'

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#1 Dreams-Visions
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Hope Fades for PS3 as a Comeback Player

In Battle of the Game Consoles, Nintendo Wii and Microsoft Xbox Widen Leads Over Sony's PlayStation

TOKYO -- For most of this year, Sony Corp.'s PlayStation 3 videogame console seemed finally to be taking off after a slow start. The PS3, trailing Nintendo Co.'s Wii and Microsoft Corp.'s Xbox 360 consoles, was closing in on the No. 2 Xbox 360, with new games and quarterly sales growth at twice the speed of last year.

But early results from this holiday season aren't promising. U.S. sales of the PS3 fell 19% last month from a year earlier, while sales doubled for the Wii console and rose 8% for the Xbox 360, according to research firm NPD. Analysts say they expect PS3 sales for this month to be flat or lower than last year, while sales for its rivals are likely to rise. And Sony may not reach its goal of selling 10 million PS3 consoles in the fiscal year through March, analysts say.

The sales decline is a heavy blow to Sony, which was banking on the videogame division to provide a bright spot as its core electronics business is hit by the global economic downturn. Sony in May forecast that its games division would turn a profit this fiscal year after two years of losses since launching the PS3 in 2006. Meanwhile, poor sales of television sets and digital cameras are forcing the company to lay off thousands of staff and close factories.

Sony's strategy of selling a pricey game machine with advanced features and cutting-edge components appears to be backfiring as a deepening recession has U.S. consumers more price sensitive than ever.

If Sony doesn't close the gap with its rivals, it could risk making the PS3 an afterthought to game publishers, who focus most of their resources on the machines with the most users. At the end of September, the Wii had a wide lead with nearly 35 million units sold since its launch in 2006 compared with about 22 million Xbox 360 consoles and 17 million PS3 machines. Nintendo last month sold 2 million Wii machines in the U.S., while Microsoft sold 836,000 Xbox 360s and Sony sold 378,000 PS3s, according to NPD.

Sony said earlier this month that it was happy with the "strong momentum" of the PS3 and focused on the machine's 60% rise in the year-to-date sales. A spokesman at Sony's game division declined to comment further, saying it is working hard to close the quarter strong.

A key factor behind the decline in sales may be the PS3's high price. At $399, the entry-level PS3 model costs at least $150 more than the Wii or the least expensive Xbox 360. Sony emphasizes that the PS3 comes with a Blu-ray high-definition video player and an 80-gigabyte hard drive, features not available with the Wii or Xbox 360.

Microsoft cut Xbox 360 prices in early September and started bundling games with the most basic console for $199. Nintendo has maintained the Wii's initial $249 price, but sales are rising now that it has overcome an early supply shortage.

Part of Sony's strategy hinged on selling the PS3 as a relatively inexpensive Blu-ray player. But prices of Blu-ray players have fallen so sharply recently -- new players are available for less than $200 -- that it's possible to buy a Blu-ray player and an Xbox 360 for less than a PS3. Meanwhile, the economic downturn has cooled sales of flat-screen TV sets and Blu-ray players this holiday season.

Industry watchers say they were surprised Sony didn't cut PS3 prices to boost sales before the holidays. One reason may be Sony Chief Executive Howard Stringer's commitment to making the games division profitable after heavy investment in the PS3 machine. Console makers hope to eventually recoup development investment with game sales and production cost reductions. Sony is still losing money on every PS3 it sells at $399, so a price cut could push the games division back into the red, analysts say.

"With Stringer saying, 'We will be profitable,' you can't cut price," says Michael Pachter, a research analyst at Wedbush Morgan Securities in Los Angeles. He expects Sony to cut prices at the start of its new fiscal year in April, which could help boost sales.

Sony also is suffering from a lack of attractive titles that are exclusive to the PS3. Microsoft has hit the jackpot with two action-adventure game franchises, Halo and Gears of War, which are available only on the Xbox 360. Most of Nintendo's top games are made in house and playable only on the Wii.

Sony used to have a stable of exclusive games. But in recent years, Microsoft has persuaded most game publishers to release highly anticipated games to it and Sony at the same time.

Last month, four of the five best-selling U.S. games were exclusive to either the Wii or Xbox 360, according to NPD. Sony's best-selling game during the month was an action shooter game, Call of Duty: World at War from Activision Blizzard Inc. But twice as many people bought the Xbox 360 version.

The Damage.

Alright boys, it seems like the PS3 can't get up from underneath a steady stream of bad decisions, bad breaks and bad PR. In order to turn this arms race around, I think Sony is going to have to go ahead anddo what they didn't want to do and cut the price of the console. Yes, they'll lose money in the short term. maybe a lot of money. but at this pace, they're going to further deepen their 3rd place hole, which damns the future of the console (it will eventually force more and more games to go multiplat or leave the PS3 entirely). I know Sony is looking for ways to make money and cut costs...but I think they're going to need to reassess their approach. They need no more negative publicity.

Also, what the hell happened to Sony's marketing and PR teams? did they fire them among the thousands of Sony employees laid off earlier this year? You guys remember their awesome "do ya want it?!" commercials from this time last year? They rocked. This year, I can think of...like 4 PS3 commercials I've seen in the last 60 days. That just doesn't get the job done. They have to recapture that PR magic. And that means again doing something they don't want to do: spend (invest) more money. I'd also like to see them bundle headsets into their PS3's to more formalize the online talking experience.

So that's my suggestion. What more do you think Sony can do with what they have to creep out of the cellar? Or does the reality of what has happened in '08--weakening sales in spite of a victory over HD-DVD, MGS4, LBP, Resistance 2, Motorstorm 2 and GTA4 (a game synonomous with PlayStation)--signal more systemic problems than can be fixed this generation given their financial state?

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its gotten to the point where taking shots at the PS3 isn't even hard anymore that i must say Playstation 3>Dallas Cowboys Because hey atleast the cowboys suck enough that its fun to make fun of them still :lol:
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its gotten to the point where taking shots at the PS3 isn't even hard anymore that i must say Playstation 3>Dallas Cowboys Because hey atleast the cowboys suck enough that its fun to make fun of them still :lol:jg4xchamp
Great. Now my stomach hurts from laughing so much. Way to go.
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[QUOTE="jg4xchamp"]its gotten to the point where taking shots at the PS3 isn't even hard anymore that i must say Playstation 3>Dallas Cowboys Because hey atleast the cowboys suck enough that its fun to make fun of them still :lol:no_handlebars
Great. Now my stomach hurts from laughing so much. Way to go.

imagine the cowboys fans....they have stomach problems from watching there not even show up I wonder who choked Harder Tony Romo or Pa.....actually i'll keep that joke to myself avoid suspension :P
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Only way to turn the PS3 around is either having 2009 truely be an amazing gaming year or well... PS3 Lite Starting at 300 Dollars.
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its gotten to the point where taking shots at the PS3 isn't even hard anymore that i must say Playstation 3>Dallas Cowboys Because hey atleast the cowboys suck enough that its fun to make fun of them still :lol:jg4xchamp

What about the Detroit Lions?

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[QUOTE="no_handlebars"][QUOTE="jg4xchamp"]its gotten to the point where taking shots at the PS3 isn't even hard anymore that i must say Playstation 3>Dallas Cowboys Because hey atleast the cowboys suck enough that its fun to make fun of them still :lol:jg4xchamp
Great. Now my stomach hurts from laughing so much. Way to go.

imagine the cowboys fans....they have stomach problems from watching there not even show up I wonder who choked Harder Tony Romo or Pa.....actually i'll keep that joke to myself avoid suspension :P

Tony Romo Carried my Fantasy football team until he got his hand hurt, but I hate him so much for blowing pretty much any every important game in the books.
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[QUOTE="no_handlebars"][QUOTE="jg4xchamp"]its gotten to the point where taking shots at the PS3 isn't even hard anymore that i must say Playstation 3>Dallas Cowboys Because hey atleast the cowboys suck enough that its fun to make fun of them still :lol:jg4xchamp
Great. Now my stomach hurts from laughing so much. Way to go.

imagine the cowboys fans....they have stomach problems from watching there not even show up I wonder who choked Harder Tony Romo or Pa.....actually i'll keep that joke to myself avoid suspension :P

LMAO! I can't talk......I'm a Rams fan. I've made a fortune betting against them this year. I'm glad Duke has been able to cheer me up recently.
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[QUOTE="jg4xchamp"]its gotten to the point where taking shots at the PS3 isn't even hard anymore that i must say Playstation 3>Dallas Cowboys Because hey atleast the cowboys suck enough that its fun to make fun of them still :lol:Blackbond

What about the Detroit Lions?

Aren't they a pee-wee team. The Rams sre bantam.
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The PS3 is doing fine it has sold more than the 360 given the time frame and at nearly double the price at that
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[QUOTE="jg4xchamp"]its gotten to the point where taking shots at the PS3 isn't even hard anymore that i must say Playstation 3>Dallas Cowboys Because hey atleast the cowboys suck enough that its fun to make fun of them still :lol:Blackbond

What about the Detroit Lions?

BB ... I have been rooting for 0-16 for weeks...In fact i have so many Lions jokes in my head...but the way the Cowboys didn't even show up The Way Tony I SUCK IN BIG GAMES Romo played THE Way cowboys fans were all so ingnorant(because next to my fellow yankee fans, they are up there as the most abnoxious fans alive) watchign Philly beat them 44-6 was just priceless.....Seriousaly my highschool football team could have done better than the Dallas Cowboys
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[QUOTE="jg4xchamp"][QUOTE="no_handlebars"] Great. Now my stomach hurts from laughing so much. Way to go.no_handlebars
imagine the cowboys fans....they have stomach problems from watching there not even show up I wonder who choked Harder Tony Romo or Pa.....actually i'll keep that joke to myself avoid suspension :P

LMAO! I can't talk......I'm a Rams fan. I've made a fortune betting against them this year. I'm glad Duke has been able to cheer me up recently.

yeah but the Rams were bad.... The Cowboys were playing for the playoffs...and DIDNT SHOW UP :|
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So it's not gonna come in first in sells, does this somehow effect your gaming enjoyment?
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If Sony can get a $299 PS3 on the market next year PS3 will be fine. PS3 has an awesome lineup of games coming Sony is going to own next year. I wouldn't be surprised if Microsoft announces the new Xbox next year because of all the domination they will be getting from PS3!
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They need a price cut, better and more PR, and hopefully a bundle with KZ2
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Only way to turn the PS3 around is either having 2009 truely be an amazing gaming year or well... PS3 Lite Starting at 300 Dollars.Theverydeepend

Are they planning on making ps3 lite or is it something what people on sw wants? I don't know why people mention this.

I would understand why people would want lighter handhelds, but for consoles I think they are fine the way they are.

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Only way to turn the PS3 around is either having 2009 truely be an amazing gaming year or well... PS3 Lite Starting at 300 Dollars.Theverydeepend
but that's my thing: the PS3 had a truly amazing gaming year this year. when you really look back at it...it had games that should have sold a metric ton. and some did...but the buzz for LBP never got to where it should have...and people didn't buy R2 with at the velocity expected. I'm not sure if either were in the top 5 on NPD. Seriously...there wasn't much GAMERS could ask for in terms of a broad assortment of excellent games. yet...the energy isn't there. the sales pale in comparison to 360 sales of the same/similar games. Left 4 Dead (little known, little marketing money, little budget) smacked down Resistance 2 in sales. I just...I feel like Sony needs to conduct some focus group's of their apathetic PS3 owners and figure out what they need to make them buy games. Microsoft figured out the magic trick. Nintendo did as well.
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[QUOTE="no_handlebars"][QUOTE="jg4xchamp"] imagine the cowboys fans....they have stomach problems from watching there not even show up I wonder who choked Harder Tony Romo or Pa.....actually i'll keep that joke to myself avoid suspension :Pjg4xchamp
LMAO! I can't talk......I'm a Rams fan. I've made a fortune betting against them this year. I'm glad Duke has been able to cheer me up recently.

yeah but the Rams were bad.... The Cowboys were playing for the playoffs...and DIDNT SHOW UP :|

I heard a High School team showed in their place.
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The PS3 is doing fine it has sold more than the 360 given the time frame and at nearly double the price at that micky4889
given the timeframe? you mean for this calendar year? also, do you think the numbers will simply bounce back? or do they need to do something in order to reverse the trend of being outsold in the US?
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[QUOTE="jg4xchamp"][QUOTE="no_handlebars"] LMAO! I can't talk......I'm a Rams fan. I've made a fortune betting against them this year. I'm glad Duke has been able to cheer me up recently.no_handlebars
yeah but the Rams were bad.... The Cowboys were playing for the playoffs...and DIDNT SHOW UP :|

I heard a High School team showed in their place.

no way a highschool team could have done better than the Dallas Cowboys I mean crap even the Lions showed up to there game.
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So it's not gonna come in first in sells, does this somehow effect your gaming enjoyment?W1NGMAN-
it certainly can. it's not rocket science. the console with the lowest sales typically gets the most mediocre 3rd party support. it also loses exclusives, which get canceled, go multiplat or leave entirely. and yes, that sure as hell effects my gaming enjoyment, as it means there are games I won't play or will be better experienced elsewhere. so yes...if you'd have looked down the line past tomorrow, you would have been able to answer your own question. Just takes a little...Vision. 8)
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They need a price cut, better and more PR, and hopefully a bundle with KZ2Giancar
I may never understand why they pulled a disappearing act during this holiday season. it defies understanding that with a holiday game lineup like what they had, that they would have sat this one out. It gets no better. Do you know what Microsoft would have done with Little Big Planet, Metal Gear Solid 4 and Resistance 2 in their collection? Made us watch it between every commercial break on every major channel. lol
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If Sony can get a $299 PS3 on the market next year PS3 will be fine. PS3 has an awesome lineup of games coming Sony is going to own next year. I wouldn't be surprised if Microsoft announces the new Xbox next year because of all the domination they will be getting from PS3!jakarai

I love such wishful thinking. They aren't just magically going to become fine with a simple price drop. These awesome games have to find a way to sell and push hardware. Something LBP and R2 didn't do really.

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The PS3 is doing fine it has sold more than the 360 given the time frame and at nearly double the price at that micky4889

Facts show that the PS3 is not doing fine. You realize this right? Sony is running a business not a charity.

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[QUOTE="micky4889"]The PS3 is doing fine it has sold more than the 360 given the time frame and at nearly double the price at that Dreams-Visions
given the timeframe? you mean for this calendar year? also, do you think the numbers will simply bounce back? or do they need to do something in order to reverse the trend of being outsold in the US?

Don't bother with him DV. It's useless. My fellow cows just don't seem to get it. Sony got it's lunch money stole this gen, plain and simple. Let's just hope they learn from their mistakes.
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the ps3 will do fine stop making a big deal out of it and enjoy the games before the next wave of consoles.8)
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We reached a point where no matter how good are the games released for the system, people still wont buy it because its more expensive than the other two
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I would say this is not as a reliable source judging on how wall street has been doing lately. LOL
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[QUOTE="micky4889"]The PS3 is doing fine it has sold more than the 360 given the time frame and at nearly double the price at that Dreams-Visions
given the timeframe? you mean for this calendar year? also, do you think the numbers will simply bounce back? or do they need to do something in order to reverse the trend of being outsold in the US?

From launch to present for PS3 and from launch to 2 years in for the 360 (same time frame) the PS3 is ahead by nearly 3 million and no matter how anyone spins it that is an amazing feat for a console that launched with a price tag of $600,i think this alone shows that a lot of people have a great deal of interest in the PS3 but price is the only thing holding them back maybe a price drop will help somewhat along with some well known titles like GOW3,FF etc.
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[QUOTE="jakarai"]If Sony can get a $299 PS3 on the market next year PS3 will be fine. PS3 has an awesome lineup of games coming Sony is going to own next year. I wouldn't be surprised if Microsoft announces the new Xbox next year because of all the domination they will be getting from PS3!Blackbond

I love such wishful thinking. They aren't just magically going to become fine with a simple price drop. These awesome games have to find a way to sell and push hardware. Something LBP and R2 didn't do really.

Actually they were doing fine until the Xbox 360 had it's price drop. Even at the higher price point people chose PS3 over Xbox 360. But after that new price drop Microsoft dropped on us I guess it was really what people wanted as we can tell with holiday numbers most people clearly chose Xbox 360 over PS3. Something we saw different in the months leading up to the Xbox 360s price drop.
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If Sony can get a $299 PS3 on the market next year PS3 will be fine. PS3 has an awesome lineup of games coming Sony is going to own next year. I wouldn't be surprised if Microsoft announces the new Xbox next year because of all the domination they will be getting from PS3!jakarai
Hahaha sony fanboys are so funny haven't this being said since 2005?
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the ps3 was sold at a large loss for sony and as the production cost are lowing it becomes cheaper for sony. Thats what I see when I see that graph. Besides what sony pays and makes of ps3 doesnt change that mgs4 won game of thwe year aka the best this year.
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We reached a point where no matter how good are the games released for the system, people still wont buy it because its more expensive than the other twoAgentA-Mi6
You know why they call it the PS3? Because you got to take 3 jobs to pay for one. *RIMSHOT*
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We reached a point where no matter how good are the games released for the system, people still wont buy it because its more expensive than the other twoAgentA-Mi6
Yeah Sony needs to drop the price. I thought they would counter Microsoft's price drop with one of their own but I was wrong. It is hurting them now that they didn't.
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If Sony can get a $299 PS3 on the market next year PS3 will be fine. PS3 has an awesome lineup of games coming Sony is going to own next year. I wouldn't be surprised if Microsoft announces the new Xbox next year because of all the domination they will be getting from PS3!jakarai
to much if and too much faith in On Paper hype On paper Too Human, Lair, and Haze looked primed to be good games by dev history alone On Paper the Dallas Cowboys are a great football team.....in reality they are not making the playoffs
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[QUOTE="AgentA-Mi6"]We reached a point where no matter how good are the games released for the system, people still wont buy it because its more expensive than the other twono_handlebars
You know why they call it the PS3? Because you got to take 3 jobs to pay for one. *RIMSHOT*

They call it Ps3 because the Ps1 and Ps2 stomped the competition
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[QUOTE="Blackbond"]

[QUOTE="jakarai"]If Sony can get a $299 PS3 on the market next year PS3 will be fine. PS3 has an awesome lineup of games coming Sony is going to own next year. I wouldn't be surprised if Microsoft announces the new Xbox next year because of all the domination they will be getting from PS3!jakarai

I love such wishful thinking. They aren't just magically going to become fine with a simple price drop. These awesome games have to find a way to sell and push hardware. Something LBP and R2 didn't do really.

Actually they were doing fine until the Xbox 360 had it's price drop. Even at the higher price point people chose PS3 over Xbox 360. But after that new price drop Microsoft dropped on us I guess it was really what people wanted as we can tell with holiday numbers most people clearly chose Xbox 360 over PS3. Something we saw different in the months leading up to the Xbox 360s price drop.

very true. the PS3 outsold the 360 for most of the spring and summer. but with December, the 360 will have won the year. crazy.
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#39 PrinceofSarcasm
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ps3 is getting a price drop next year so be prepared for a boost in the charts. Sony did kind of have a price drop this year. They turned the 40gb into a 80gb for the same price.
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#40 Dreams-Visions
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[QUOTE="no_handlebars"][QUOTE="AgentA-Mi6"]We reached a point where no matter how good are the games released for the system, people still wont buy it because its more expensive than the other twoAgentA-Mi6
You know why they call it the PS3? Because you got to take 3 jobs to pay for one. *RIMSHOT*

They call it Ps3 because the Ps1 and Ps2 stomped the competition

I just read that the PS3 has already lost all the money that Sony's game division made since before the launch of the PS2. This includes all PSP profits, profits off of PS1's sold after the PS2 launch and profits off of PS2s sold after the PS3's launch. I'm waiting for a link...but if that's true...oh man. Detroit Lions > PS3.
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#41 W1NGMAN-
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[QUOTE="W1NGMAN-"]So it's not gonna come in first in sells, does this somehow effect your gaming enjoyment?Dreams-Visions
it certainly can. it's not rocket science. the console with the lowest sales typically gets the most mediocre 3rd party support. it also loses exclusives, which get canceled, go multiplat or leave entirely. and yes, that sure as hell effects my gaming enjoyment, as it means there are games I won't play or will be better experienced elsewhere. so yes...if you'd have looked down the line past tomorrow, you would have been able to answer your own question. Just takes a little...Vision. 8)

Yet next year the PS3 is looking to have a better year than the 360 and Wii combined:shock:, yep I totally see those sell figures effecting the PS3:roll:

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[QUOTE="jakarai"]If Sony can get a $299 PS3 on the market next year PS3 will be fine. PS3 has an awesome lineup of games coming Sony is going to own next year. I wouldn't be surprised if Microsoft announces the new Xbox next year because of all the domination they will be getting from PS3!McdonaIdsGuy
Hahaha sony fanboys are so funny haven't this being said since 2005?

In 2005 we didn't have a $300 PS3 on the market with MGS 4, GT 5, Infamous, Killzone 2, White Knight Chronicles, M.A.G.Final Fantasy XIII, Heavy Rain, trophy support in all games, and the full verison of Home. Hopefully next year all that will change. :D
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As what Sony should have done from day one...

Dump the Wi-fi......40 gig HD...bundle 2 "greatest hit" games.....$249.00

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I feel bad for sony ... they took a risk with a high priced console selling at a loss, and just when things looked like they were getting better, BAM! recession.
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[QUOTE="no_handlebars"][QUOTE="AgentA-Mi6"]We reached a point where no matter how good are the games released for the system, people still wont buy it because its more expensive than the other twoAgentA-Mi6
You know why they call it the PS3? Because you got to take 3 jobs to pay for one. *RIMSHOT*

They call it Ps3 because the Ps1 and Ps2 stomped the competition

but now its getting beat up on like the cowboys did ...tisk tisk
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#46 McdonaIdsGuy
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[QUOTE="McdonaIdsGuy"][QUOTE="jakarai"]If Sony can get a $299 PS3 on the market next year PS3 will be fine. PS3 has an awesome lineup of games coming Sony is going to own next year. I wouldn't be surprised if Microsoft announces the new Xbox next year because of all the domination they will be getting from PS3!jakarai
Hahaha sony fanboys are so funny haven't this being said since 2005?

In 2005 we didn't have a $300 PS3 on the market with MGS 4, GT 5, Infamous, Killzone 2, White Knight Chronicles, M.A.G.Final Fantasy XIII, Heavy Rain, trophy support in all games, and the full verison of Home. Hopefully next year all that will change. :D



And u still don't have a $300 PS3,and still 3rd place.
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#47 Blackbond
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[QUOTE="Blackbond"]

[QUOTE="jakarai"]If Sony can get a $299 PS3 on the market next year PS3 will be fine. PS3 has an awesome lineup of games coming Sony is going to own next year. I wouldn't be surprised if Microsoft announces the new Xbox next year because of all the domination they will be getting from PS3!jakarai

I love such wishful thinking. They aren't just magically going to become fine with a simple price drop. These awesome games have to find a way to sell and push hardware. Something LBP and R2 didn't do really.

Actually they were doing fine until the Xbox 360 had it's price drop. Even at the higher price point people chose PS3 over Xbox 360. But after that new price drop Microsoft dropped on us I guess it was really what people wanted as we can tell with holiday numbers most people clearly chose Xbox 360 over PS3. Something we saw different in the months leading up to the Xbox 360s price drop.

That and Gears 2. I mean a $200 system and Gears2 = massive sales.

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As what Sony should have done from day one...

Dump the Wi-fi......40 gig HD...bundle 2 "greatest hit" games.....$249.00

masiisam
the wi-fi should be gone in the next Sku, it should be optional, wired conections are more stable. 2 usb Ports, Blu ray and GO GO GO 250$ 900K monthly selling Ps3!!!!!
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#49 W1NGMAN-
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[QUOTE="AgentA-Mi6"][QUOTE="no_handlebars"] You know why they call it the PS3? Because you got to take 3 jobs to pay for one. *RIMSHOT* jg4xchamp
They call it Ps3 because the Ps1 and Ps2 stomped the competition

but now its getting beat up on like the cowboys did ...tisk tisk

How many times are yo ugoing to bring up the Cowboys in this thread? We get it.

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[QUOTE="AgentA-Mi6"][QUOTE="no_handlebars"] You know why they call it the PS3? Because you got to take 3 jobs to pay for one. *RIMSHOT* jg4xchamp
They call it Ps3 because the Ps1 and Ps2 stomped the competition

but now its getting beat up on like the cowboys did ...tisk tisk

The PS3 has about as much chance of coming back as Pete Rose has getting into the Baseball Hall of Fame.