Wall Street Journal: 'Hope Fades for PS3 as a Comeback Player'

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#151 deactivated-5e7be39d87e0b
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[QUOTE="tek91"] [QUOTE="clone01"] so you don't enjoy the RE, God of War, Ico, Twisted Metal, Ratchet and Clank, Final Fantasy, GTA, or MGS series of games? because they wouldn't exist in their current state without sony. honestly, are you this anti-sony, or are you just tring to get a reaction from the people on SW? nervmeister

dude ur wasting ur time with him hes the only one here I see as an extremist fanboy ignoring is the best option.

That reminds me. When is GS going to include an "Ignore" button on the forums? That would do this place a great service.

Also a sarcasm font would be awesome, too. Sometimes it's hard to tell who's joking and who's not.

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#152 Dreams-Visions
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[QUOTE="Gh0st_Of_0nyx"]I think the nail in the ps3's coffin came when they lost FF13.

that was quite the moment. the crescendo of the fall of Sony as we knew them in generation, IMO.
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#153 speedsix
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So it's not gonna come in first in sells, does this somehow effect your gaming enjoyment?W1NGMAN-
It's sales and yes, poor performance will affect the end user in the long run.
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#154 Cole-Protocal
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[QUOTE="Cole-Protocal"]

[QUOTE="clone01"] why would you wish for a console to fail? less competition means the gamers suffer.clone01

Just Nintendo and MS is good enough.

so you don't enjoy the RE, God of War, Ico, Twisted Metal, Ratchet and Clank, Final Fantasy, GTA, or MGS series of games? because they wouldn't exist in their current state without sony. honestly, are you this anti-sony, or are you just tring to get a reaction from the people on SW?

they would all become 3rd party devs. Thus being forced to flock to Nintendo/MS.

Just like Sega and Sonic.

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#155 Dreams-Visions
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[QUOTE="W1NGMAN-"]So it's not gonna come in first in sells, does this somehow effect your gaming enjoyment?speedsix
It's sales and yes, poor performance will affect the end user in the long run.

I'd like to think he really does know that....and understands why. btw, nice custom stick.
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#156 nervmeister
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[QUOTE="clone01"][QUOTE="Cole-Protocal"]

Just Nintendo and MS is good enough.

Cole-Protocal

so you don't enjoy the RE, God of War, Ico, Twisted Metal, Ratchet and Clank, Final Fantasy, GTA, or MGS series of games? because they wouldn't exist in their current state without sony. honestly, are you this anti-sony, or are you just tring to get a reaction from the people on SW?

they would all become 3rd party devs. Thus being forced to flock to Nintendo/MS.

Just like Sega and Sonic.

LOL. I hope you know that's not gonna happen anytime soon if at all.
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#157 clone01
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[QUOTE="clone01"][QUOTE="Cole-Protocal"]

Just Nintendo and MS is good enough.

Cole-Protocal

so you don't enjoy the RE, God of War, Ico, Twisted Metal, Ratchet and Clank, Final Fantasy, GTA, or MGS series of games? because they wouldn't exist in their current state without sony. honestly, are you this anti-sony, or are you just tring to get a reaction from the people on SW?

they would all become 3rd party devs. Thus being forced to flock to Nintendo/MS.

Just like Sega and Sonic.

and we all know how good the Sonic series has been. you do realize that a bunch of those titles i just named were developed by Sony in-house teams.
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#158 Riverwolf007
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I don't even ridicule Sony anymore. What's the point? They made their own bed on this one and deserve last place.

Hanging out here and picking on an industry giant was all interesting up until they made a joke of themselves and ran the games division into the ground with hubris and contempt for the consumers. What can any of us say that's more embarrassing to them than what they have done to themselves???

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#159 dattruth4real
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[QUOTE="clone01"][QUOTE="Cole-Protocal"]Tears of joy as I read this article.Cole-Protocal

why would you wish for a console to fail? less competition means the gamers suffer.

Just Nintendo and MS is good enough.

Hey mods, I think you know what time it is, time too put this puppy behind the shed and take him out the hard way, ill give you a hint.

Theres something Strange, in the neighborhood

Who ya gonna call?

and guess who else?

Thats right Ghost MLD and General Raam. try a 4th time my friend.

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#160 Lionheart08
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Analyst flip-flop worst than fanboys. Seriously, it's about time they made up their mind whether the PS3 is going to make a comeback, or the PS3 is just plain

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#161 Synthetic_NinJI
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Their is nothing PS3 can do to win.

After all that big talk in 05 only to have it come back to them four years later.

All you cows should be humbled as this is the result from pride and arrogance.

You also have to releize that you have lost this generation and it is too late for you.

If MGS4 and Resistence 2 couldn't turn this around given that they were released in the same year then nothing can.

Killzone 2 and GoW 2 isn't going to change that magically.

For all the people that say "PS3 only has to do A and B to win", as if something could "win" that easily, you need to wake up because this isnt a fairy tale, it is already to late.

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#162 clone01
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[QUOTE="Synthetic_NinJI"]

Their is nothing PS3 can do to win.

After all that big talk in 05 only to have it come back to them four years later.

All you cows show be humbled as this is the result from pride and arrogance.

You also have to releize that you have lost this generation and it is too late for you.

If MGS4 and Resistence 2 couldn't turn this around given that they were released in the same year then nothing can.

Killzone 2 and GoW 2 isn't going to change that magically.

For all the people that "PS3 only has to do A and B to win", as if something could "win" that easily, you need to wake up because this isnt a fairy tale, it is already to late.

so a console has to "win" to be enjoyable? okay, i'll go throw my PS3 out the window. here i was thinking i was playing fun games on it.
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#163 LosDaddie
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The article is right.

The PS3 will be lucky if it can retain 50% of the marketshare the PS2 held last gen.

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its gotten to the point where taking shots at the PS3 isn't even hard anymore that i must say Playstation 3>Dallas Cowboys Because hey atleast the cowboys suck enough that its fun to make fun of them still :lol:jg4xchamp
as a redskins fan this post (and for once the Eagles!) brings me much joy. :lol: The PS3 has been a series of bad calls for Sony. Hopefully they will right the wrongs next time around.
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#165 Synthetic_NinJI
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[QUOTE="clone01"][QUOTE="Synthetic_NinJI"]

Their is nothing PS3 can do to win.

After all that big talk in 05 only to have it come back to them four years later.

All you cows show be humbled as this is the result from pride and arrogance.

You also have to releize that you have lost this generation and it is too late for you.

If MGS4 and Resistence 2 couldn't turn this around given that they were released in the same year then nothing can.

Killzone 2 and GoW 2 isn't going to change that magically.

For all the people that "PS3 only has to do A and B to win", as if something could "win" that easily, you need to wake up because this isnt a fairy tale, it is already to late.

so a console has to "win" to be enjoyable? okay, i'll go throw my PS3 out the window. here i was thinking i was playing fun games on it.

Where do you read the "needs to be enjoyable" argument in that? Were talking total sales figures where one console has more than the other. SImple reading comprehension there.
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#166 GodofBigMacs
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[QUOTE="jg4xchamp"]its gotten to the point where taking shots at the PS3 isn't even hard anymore that i must say Playstation 3>Dallas Cowboys Because hey atleast the cowboys suck enough that its fun to make fun of them still :lol:Blackbond

What about the Detroit Lions?

Hey don't make fun of my Lions!!! They're... special! :cry: So anyway, I enjoy my PS3. No Wall Street Journal will change my mind.
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[QUOTE="jg4xchamp"]its gotten to the point where taking shots at the PS3 isn't even hard anymore that i must say Playstation 3>Dallas Cowboys Because hey atleast the cowboys suck enough that its fun to make fun of them still :lol:blue_hazy_basic
as a redskins fan this post (and for once the Eagles!) brings me much joy. :lol: The PS3 has been a series of bad calls for Sony. Hopefully they will right the wrongs next time around.

I want the Disappointment Timeline brought back.
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#168 clone01
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Where do you read the "needs to be enjoyable" argument in that? Were talking total sales figures where one console has more than the other. SImple reading comprehension there.Synthetic_NinJI
never once in your original argument do you make any mention of overall sales. how can i read something that was never written? you insinuate "winning" like its some kind of epic war. no. its a business of making toys.
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#169 GodofBigMacs
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If Sony can get a $299 PS3 on the market next year PS3 will be fine. PS3 has an awesome lineup of games coming Sony is going to own next year. I wouldn't be surprised if Microsoft announces the new Xbox next year because of all the domination they will be getting from PS3!jakarai
I suggest sending out a crappy version of the PS3, like M$ did with the arcade version of the 360. Probably get one of those old 20 GB's or 40 GB's out for 350, or maybe 300... or if we're real lucky, 250... considering how much hardware costs are lowering.
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#170 Gh0st_Of_0nyx
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[QUOTE="Gh0st_Of_0nyx"]I think the nail in the ps3's coffin came when they lost FF13. If sony can no longer keep one of its flagship franchises exclusive anymore that gives you a good idea of how far of a hole they have dug themselves with the ps3. These "Must have" exclusives are coming and going cow's and I still dont see the huge sales that were supposed to come with them. KZ2 and GT5 wont save the ps3 nothing will. Its coming in last this generation cow's and I think its about time you accepted that.tek91

I don't think so the nail is the cost sony has alot of exclusives that people want like MGS 4 and Little big Planet and killzone and they have alot of 360 games like Ninja Gaiden "which btw I always wanted to be on PS 3" and Bioshock and Saints Row it's not about the games the PS 3 has a way better library than 360 I mean they have games coming out in 09 360 doesnt have anything its the cost alone thats doing them harm.

So basically what your saying is It dosent matter that sony loses exclusive titles left and right because we have KZ2 and MGS4 :?
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[QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"][QUOTE="jg4xchamp"]its gotten to the point where taking shots at the PS3 isn't even hard anymore that i must say Playstation 3>Dallas Cowboys Because hey atleast the cowboys suck enough that its fun to make fun of them still :lol:Dreams-Visions
as a redskins fan this post (and for once the Eagles!) brings me much joy. :lol: The PS3 has been a series of bad calls for Sony. Hopefully they will right the wrongs next time around.

I want the Disappointment Timeline brought back.

ha thats a blast from the past. Most of the people on here have no idea what went on back then or just how messy it got :D. Every day was a disaster headline for cows lol
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#172 Synthetic_NinJI
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[QUOTE="Synthetic_NinJI"]Where do you read the "needs to be enjoyable" argument in that? Were talking total sales figures where one console has more than the other. SImple reading comprehension there.clone01
never once in your original argument do you make any mention of overall sales. how can i read something that was never written? you insinuate "winning" like its some kind of epic war. no. its a business of making toys.

The topic is about PS3 and the sales figures. My comment was about cows and console war. Again where do you read the "needs to be enjoyable" argument in my post. Better yet don't answer, you are wasting time as this would be off topic.
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#173 sonicmj1
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I want the Disappointment Timeline brought back.Dreams-Visions

You mean, this disappointment timeline?

Google is very kind.

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#174 Dreams-Visions
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[QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"]I want the Disappointment Timeline brought back.sonicmj1

You mean, this disappointment timeline?

Google is very kind.

yep. but with a fresh set of disappointments. there is no shortage, it seems.
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#175 clone01
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[QUOTE="clone01"][QUOTE="Synthetic_NinJI"]Where do you read the "needs to be enjoyable" argument in that? Were talking total sales figures where one console has more than the other. SImple reading comprehension there.Synthetic_NinJI
never once in your original argument do you make any mention of overall sales. how can i read something that was never written? you insinuate "winning" like its some kind of epic war. no. its a business of making toys.

The topic is about PS3 and the sales figures. My comment was about cows and console war. Again where do you read the "needs to be enjoyable" argument in my post. Better yet don't answer, you are wasting time as this would be off topic.

no really, tell me how we, the consumers, "win" or "lose." (after all, you're the one who brings up cows, which, if i'm not mistaken, is a system wars invention, and not a sony business model). if the games are good, that's what matters. again, you never really address, or even mention sales in your post. my suggestion would be to do so in the future. it would avoid a lot of confusion.
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#176 sonicmj1
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[QUOTE="sonicmj1"]

You mean, this disappointment timeline?

Google is very kind.

Dreams-Visions

yep. but with a fresh set of disappointments. there is no shortage, it seems.

That'd be quite a project. It's been two years since the last update, after all.

The Playstation 3 was a badly conceived project, and even if the games start coming, it'll be ages before Sony can turn their game division around as a result.

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[QUOTE="jg4xchamp"]its gotten to the point where taking shots at the PS3 isn't even hard anymore that i must say Playstation 3>Dallas Cowboys Because hey atleast the cowboys suck enough that its fun to make fun of them still :lol:Blackbond

What about the Detroit Lions?

I biritsh, i have no idea what anyone just said in this thread :?
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#179 StarkJJ
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[QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"][QUOTE="micky4889"]The PS3 is doing fine it has sold more than the 360 given the time frame and at nearly double the price at that micky4889
given the timeframe? you mean for this calendar year? also, do you think the numbers will simply bounce back? or do they need to do something in order to reverse the trend of being outsold in the US?

From launch to present for PS3 and from launch to 2 years in for the 360 (same time frame) the PS3 is ahead by nearly 3 million and no matter how anyone spins it that is an amazing feat for a console that launched with a price tag of $600,i think this alone shows that a lot of people have a great deal of interest in the PS3 but price is the only thing holding them back maybe a price drop will help somewhat along with some well known titles like GOW3,FF etc.

Keep lying to yourselves guys. Fact of the matter is: PS3 is in last place as of RIGHT NOW. Little stints where they did good don't matter...AT ALL. The bottom line is what matters and PS3 is selling the least, pushing less software, and is still overpriced. The PS3 was a dud from the beginning. Are these results surprising in any way?? NO.

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#180 Ninja-Hippo
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[QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"] Alright boys, it seems like the PS3 can't get up from underneath a steady stream of bad decisions, bad breaks and bad PR. In order to turn this arms race around, I think Sony is going to have to go ahead anddo what they didn't want to do and cut the price of the console. Yes, they'll lose money in the short term. maybe a lot of money. but at this pace, they're going to further deepen their 3rd place hole,

I dont think so. 3rd place is bad in system wars, but it doesnt mean much (If anything) in the real world. Sure the 360 sells more systems, and the wii sells many more systems, but that doesnt mean the PS3 is a dismal failure. Heck, they've only sold five million fewer than the 360 - very few publishers are goin to ignore the system and develop exclusively on the 360 because of a user base difference of just five million.
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#181 Synthetic_NinJI
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[QUOTE="Synthetic_NinJI"][QUOTE="clone01"] never once in your original argument do you make any mention of overall sales. how can i read something that was never written? you insinuate "winning" like its some kind of epic war. no. its a business of making toys.clone01
The topic is about PS3 and the sales figures. My comment was about cows and console war. Again where do you read the "needs to be enjoyable" argument in my post. Better yet don't answer, you are wasting time as this would be off topic.

no really, tell me how we, the consumers, "win" or "lose." (after all, you're the one who brings up cows, which, if i'm not mistaken, is a system wars invention, and not a sony business model). if the games are good, that's what matters. again, you never really address, or even mention sales in your post. my suggestion would be to do so in the future. it would avoid a lot of confusion.

A person that doesn't even have intrest in video game can explain this to you. Cows, being the Sony faithful loses. No Hardware Sales = Less Quality First Party Games. Less First Party Games = First Party Games Turns into Third Party Games.or abandon all together. Low concentration of Game Sales = Less Hardware. Less Hardware Sales = Less Games. Less Games = Little Fanbase. Doesn't Matter how good the game is, if there is nobody buying the game it is put to risk of being at being third party, not being released at all, or getting a sequel let alone a quality sequel. The only person that is getting confused here is you my friend.
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#182 remiks00
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[QUOTE="sonicmj1"]

[QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"]I want the Disappointment Timeline brought back.Dreams-Visions

You mean, this disappointment timeline?

Google is very kind.

yep. but with a fresh set of disappointments. there is no shortage, it seems.

Wow!....that Timeline is really disappointing
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#183 Dreams-Visions
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[QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"][QUOTE="sonicmj1"]

You mean, this disappointment timeline?

Google is very kind.

sonicmj1

yep. but with a fresh set of disappointments. there is no shortage, it seems.

That'd be quite a project. It's been two years since the last update, after all.

The Playstation 3 was a badly conceived project, and even if the games start coming, it'll be ages before Sony can turn their game division around as a result.

I'd be a fun project. lol. since then we've had Lair rise and fall, HS failing, R&C failing, Haze failing, Factor 5 and Free Radical dying mostly because of their PS3-related games, sales figures slowing, R2 and LBP underperforming, most multiplats selling better elsewhere, analysts predicting the PS3 would never recoup its losses ever, the PS3 losing more money than Sony made lifetime-to-date on the PS2 and PS1 combined, Home landing as a dud, trophies and in-game music support barely being supported, weak E3, etc. etc.
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#184 Dreams-Visions
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[QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"][QUOTE="sonicmj1"]

You mean, this disappointment timeline?

Google is very kind.

remiks00
yep. but with a fresh set of disappointments. there is no shortage, it seems.

Wow!....that Timeline is really disappointing

as you can see, the thread was epic. not totally sure why it was closed. probably either veered off topic or garnered more interest than Gamespot wanted to deal with. but I'd like to see it return. it was pretty entertaining.
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#185 Synthetic_NinJI
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[QUOTE="sonicmj1"][QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"] yep. but with a fresh set of disappointments. there is no shortage, it seems.Dreams-Visions

That'd be quite a project. It's been two years since the last update, after all.

The Playstation 3 was a badly conceived project, and even if the games start coming, it'll be ages before Sony can turn their game division around as a result.

I'd be a fun project. lol. since then we've had Lair rise and fall, HS failing, R&C failing, Haze failing, Factor 5 and Free Radical dying mostly because of their PS3-related games, sales figures slowing, R2 and LBP underperforming, most multiplats selling better elsewhere, analysts predicting the PS3 would never recoup its losses ever, the PS3 losing more money than Sony made lifetime-to-date on the PS2 and PS1 combined, Home landing as a dud, trophies and in-game music support barely being supported, weak E3, etc. etc.

Weak E3? The thing with the crab?
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the only thing that may save them is price cut, but knowing sony they'll discontinue the cheap model, cut the expensive ones price, then release a new expensive one instead of just sticking with what they've got.
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#187 Dreams-Visions
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[QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"][QUOTE="sonicmj1"]

That'd be quite a project. It's been two years since the last update, after all.

The Playstation 3 was a badly conceived project, and even if the games start coming, it'll be ages before Sony can turn their game division around as a result.

Synthetic_NinJI
I'd be a fun project. lol. since then we've had Lair rise and fall, HS failing, R&C failing, Haze failing, Factor 5 and Free Radical dying mostly because of their PS3-related games, sales figures slowing, R2 and LBP underperforming, most multiplats selling better elsewhere, analysts predicting the PS3 would never recoup its losses ever, the PS3 losing more money than Sony made lifetime-to-date on the PS2 and PS1 combined, Home landing as a dud, trophies and in-game music support barely being supported, weak E3, etc. etc.

Weak E3? The thing with the crab?

nah. that was...'06, as I recall. but you're right: '07 E3 and '08 E3's were also disappointing.
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#188 clone01
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A person that doesn't even have intrest in video game can explain this to you. Cows, being the Sony faithful loses. No Hardware Sales = Less First Quality First Party Games. Less First Party Games = First Party Games Turns into Third Party Games.or abandon all together. Low concentration of Game Sales = Less Hardware. Less Hardware Sales = Less Games. Less Games = Little Fanbase. Doesn't Matter how good the game is, if there is nobody buying the game it is put to risk of being at being third party, not being released at all, or getting a sequel let alone a quality sequel. The only person that is getting confused here is you my friend.Synthetic_NinJI
1. whether you play video games or not, a consumer is a consumer. the quality of the PS3 titles is still very high. 2. again, what do cows have to do with sales? PS3 owners still have a high quality console with many great games. i don't understand how they win or lose. 3. so hardware sales directly affect game quality. what about the dreamcast or gamecube? they sold very lackluster, and seemed to maintain a high quality selection. 4. you act like the PS3 is going to just stop being manufactured. winning and losing only matters on system wars. Sony could care less where they finish. if they make a profit, they win. as it stands now, yes, the PS3 is losing a lot of money? will it continue to do so? who knows. but this concept of "winning" and "losing" only fits in the framework of profit or loss. how am i getting confused here?
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#189 Synthetic_NinJI
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[QUOTE="Synthetic_NinJI"][QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"] I'd be a fun project. lol. since then we've had Lair rise and fall, HS failing, R&C failing, Haze failing, Factor 5 and Free Radical dying mostly because of their PS3-related games, sales figures slowing, R2 and LBP underperforming, most multiplats selling better elsewhere, analysts predicting the PS3 would never recoup its losses ever, the PS3 losing more money than Sony made lifetime-to-date on the PS2 and PS1 combined, Home landing as a dud, trophies and in-game music support barely being supported, weak E3, etc. etc.Dreams-Visions
Weak E3? The thing with the crab?

nah. that was...'06, as I recall. but you're right: '07 E3 and '08 E3's were also disappointing.

Thats when it all started http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IH2w2l1JTs4
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[QUOTE="sonicmj1"][QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"] yep. but with a fresh set of disappointments. there is no shortage, it seems.Dreams-Visions

That'd be quite a project. It's been two years since the last update, after all.

The Playstation 3 was a badly conceived project, and even if the games start coming, it'll be ages before Sony can turn their game division around as a result.

I'd be a fun project. lol. since then we've had Lair rise and fall, HS failing, R&C failing, Haze failing, Factor 5 and Free Radical dying mostly because of their PS3-related games, sales figures slowing, R2 and LBP underperforming, most multiplats selling better elsewhere, analysts predicting the PS3 would never recoup its losses ever, the PS3 losing more money than Sony made lifetime-to-date on the PS2 and PS1 combined, Home landing as a dud, trophies and in-game music support barely being supported, weak E3, etc. etc.

Trolling Heavenly Sword and Ratchet and Clank , both are over 80% games critically and million sellers ? The ps3 bashing is pitiful in and of itself , but your're trying way too hard with some of this bologna.

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[QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"][QUOTE="sonicmj1"]

That'd be quite a project. It's been two years since the last update, after all.

The Playstation 3 was a badly conceived project, and even if the games start coming, it'll be ages before Sony can turn their game division around as a result.

Nike_Air

I'd be a fun project. lol. since then we've had Lair rise and fall, HS failing, R&C failing, Haze failing, Factor 5 and Free Radical dying mostly because of their PS3-related games, sales figures slowing, R2 and LBP underperforming, most multiplats selling better elsewhere, analysts predicting the PS3 would never recoup its losses ever, the PS3 losing more money than Sony made lifetime-to-date on the PS2 and PS1 combined, Home landing as a dud, trophies and in-game music support barely being supported, weak E3, etc. etc.

Trolling Heavenly Sword and Ratchet and Clank , both are over 80% games critically and million sellers ? The ps3 bashing is pitiful in and of itself , but your're trying way too hard with some of this bologna.

nah. that's pretty easy to do. and I own those games, so spare me the hurt and pain. there was a hype level...then there was failure to meet the real expectations. we call that "disappointment".
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[QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"][QUOTE="sonicmj1"]

You mean, this disappointment timeline?

Google is very kind.

sonicmj1

yep. but with a fresh set of disappointments. there is no shortage, it seems.

That'd be quite a project. It's been two years since the last update, after all.

The Playstation 3 was a badly conceived project, and even if the games start coming, it'll be ages before Sony can turn their game division around as a result.

I totally forgot about that. A 2008 version of that would be epic!

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I think the WSJ and CNN etc... need to keep their stupid faces out of Video Games. Seriously these guys probably have never picked up a controller in their lives. PS3 has a GREAT lineup for 2009. It won't put them in the lead but it'll make them resurrect a bit
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I think the WSJ and CNN etc... need to keep their stupid faces out of Video Games. Seriously these guys probably have never picked up a controller in their lives. PS3 has a GREAT lineup for 2009. It won't put them in the lead but it'll make them resurrect a bitacsguitar
do you feel like their '09 exclusive lineup is better than their '08 lineup?
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I think the WSJ and CNN etc... need to keep their stupid faces out of Video Games. Seriously these guys probably have never picked up a controller in their lives. PS3 has a GREAT lineup for 2009. It won't put them in the lead but it'll make them resurrect a bitacsguitar
To be fair, the PS3 had a great lineup for 2008 as well.
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[QUOTE="Nike_Air"][QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"] I'd be a fun project. lol. since then we've had Lair rise and fall, HS failing, R&C failing, Haze failing, Factor 5 and Free Radical dying mostly because of their PS3-related games, sales figures slowing, R2 and LBP underperforming, most multiplats selling better elsewhere, analysts predicting the PS3 would never recoup its losses ever, the PS3 losing more money than Sony made lifetime-to-date on the PS2 and PS1 combined, Home landing as a dud, trophies and in-game music support barely being supported, weak E3, etc. etc.Dreams-Visions
Trolling Heavenly Sword and Ratchet and Clank , both are over 80% games critically and million sellers ? The ps3 bashing is pitiful in and of itself , but your're trying way too hard with some of this bologna.

nah. that's pretty easy to do. and I own those games, so spare me the hurt and pain. there was a hype level...then there was failure to meet the real expectations. we call that "disappointment".

But you used failing.Great games and million sellers for those type of games aren't failing.Heck , they shouldn't even be classified as disappointments.

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I think the WSJ and CNN etc... need to keep their stupid faces out of Video Games. Seriously these guys probably have never picked up a controller in their lives. PS3 has a GREAT lineup for 2009. It won't put them in the lead but it'll make them resurrect a bitacsguitar

Do you understand what the Wall Street Journal is? Do you understand what CNN does? They don't even have to know what a video game system is to do their jobs which is one report news and for the other assess financials.

I'm telling you Dreams pretty soon the words Economics and Business will be banned on this forum lol

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I think the WSJ and CNN etc... need to keep their stupid faces out of Video Games. Seriously these guys probably have never picked up a controller in their lives. PS3 has a GREAT lineup for 2009. It won't put them in the lead but it'll make them resurrect a bitacsguitar
You do realize that Video Games are a BUSINESS right? That these companies are in them to MAKE MONEY!!! So when the WSJ, probably the most respected business periodical in the world, writes a story on a BUSINESS, whether it be a video game division (aka Sony) or a Ford, they probably did their due diligence and know what the hell they are talking about.

Not really picking on you in particular acsguitar - there were several posts about discounting the article because it was in the WSJ. When in fact - that is why we should take it seriously!!!!

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i cant see the WSJ having any bias. the article probably was aimed at stockholders and the like, not gamers(unless you have stock in Sony).
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#200 Dreams-Visions
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[QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"][QUOTE="Nike_Air"]Trolling Heavenly Sword and Ratchet and Clank , both are over 80% games critically and million sellers ? The ps3 bashing is pitiful in and of itself , but your're trying way too hard with some of this bologna.

Nike_Air

nah. that's pretty easy to do. and I own those games, so spare me the hurt and pain. there was a hype level...then there was failure to meet the real expectations. we call that "disappointment".

But you used failing.Great games and million sellers for those type of games aren't failing.Heck , they shouldn't even be classified as disappointments.

sorry. I have a tendency to be more dramatic than necessary. makes SW more colorful. they certainly didn't "fail". they "failed to meet the high hopes". or at least, the high hopes of all of us who saw their trailers, videos, screenshots and felt like we saw AAA potential in all of them. even though people underhyped these games scores, I think everyone hoped for AAA. Felt like we were looking at AAA-caliber work. anyway, it was just a thought. it was a funny thread.