Was PS3 a huge disappointment sales-wise after the success of the PS2?

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#1 reach3
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THE PS brand is tarnished. The PS3 sales are pathetic compared to ps2. Sony dropped the ball yet again.

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To whom? I think Sony is more worried that they struggled to make any serious money off of the system, rather than how much the system sold. MS has been incredibly profitable with only a few million more shipped units.

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#3 Chris_Williams
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I mean, the ps2 is still selling and the ps3 had a rocky start but is having great numbers and is contributing to sony gaming divisons being one of its most profitable divisions , but yeah the ps3 didn't reach what the ps2 did but hey man you can't win them all, anything can happen next gen.

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Oh no
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THE PS brand is tarnished. The PS3 sales are pathetic compared to ps2. Sony dropped the ball yet again.

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#7 RR360DD
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Yeah, unfortunately its downhill for Sony now. No one will think of the PS4, and think that sounds exciting. They will go for the next Xbox instead.

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Yeah, but wasn't that obvious. Who wouldn't be disappointed going from first to last place?

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#9 bonesawisready5
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Sales wise? YES. They lost billions of dollars on the PS3, and they came in third place, and sold less than half of what their previous console did. Huge disappointment. Did it do good by anyone else's standards? Yes, if this was Panasonic or something. By Sony's PS standards? Disappointment. It's not like they bled all that money to not be first place, to not sell as much as the PS2.
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Yeah, unfortunately its downhill for Sony now. No one will think of the PS4, and think that sounds exciting. They will go for the next Xbox instead.

RR360DD

Considering the system has still sold a fair amount, I doubt this. Next gen will likely play out very similar to this gen (for Sony and MS).

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TROLL. Seriously need to raise the posting level again.

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Sony has been flopping all over the place this gen.

PS3= Flop

PS Move= Flop

Several First Party Exclusives= Flop (sales wise)

PS Vita= Huge Flop

PS4/Orbis= ???

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Considering how big the PS2 sold and how nothing else in the past or today will reach those numbers, no. I never had the PS2 and am more than happy with my PS3. The 360 has been one big disappointment for me, so I wont be buying their next console.
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Consider the competition back then, and the fact that the PS2 was flippin' cheap in later years. Plus, the brand is far from tarnished.
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Um duh. Sony went from owning the industry to essentially last place. I'm pretty sure they are disappointed.
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Considering how big the PS2 sold and how nothing else in the past or today will reach those numbers, no. I never had the PS2 and am more than happy with my PS3. The 360 has been one big disappointment for me, so I wont be buying their next console. Heil68
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The thing is that the PS3 is not the PS2 and if history has taught us something is that each gen starts from 0. Or else how do you think the PS1 went over the N64? Back in the day Nintendo was the supreme ruler of the industry u know and things has changed a lot since then too. The Xbox shaped the market with the online and then the Wii made the gimmicks popular. There was no way for Sony to adapt this fast, specially when the X360 already sold like 10 millions in its first year and it already had a library of games like: "Tomb Raider Legends" and "Call of Duty 2" that never made it out to the PS3 because it was 1 year late.

PS3 lacked games, gimmicks, an online infrastructure and an affordable price point. The market was totally different from the days of the PS2 but they learned fast. Sony didn't waste time to close that gap like Nintendo did with the N64 and GC and that's why I think that they are fine.

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THE PS brand is tarnished. The PS3 sales are pathetic compared to ps2. Sony dropped the ball yet again.

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This generation's sales are pathetic compared to PS2.

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It's funny to see all of the level 10 posts. They've been waiting until the day the could post something "meaningful".

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The thing is that the PS3 is not the PS2 and if history has taught us something is that each gen starts from 0. Or else how do you think the PS1 went over the N64? Back in the day Nintendo was the supreme ruler of the industry u know and things has changed a lot since then too. The Xbox shaped the market with the online and then the Wii made the gimmicks popular. There was no way for Sony to adapt this fast, specially when the X360 already sold like 10 millions in its first year and it already had a library of games like: "Tomb Raider Legends" and "Call of Duty 2" that never made it out to the PS3 because it was 1 year late.

PS3 lacked games, gimmicks, an online infrastructure and an affordable price point. The market was totally different from the days of the PS2 but they learned fast. Sony didn't waste time to close that gap like Nintendo did with the N64 and GC and that's why I think that they are fine.

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THE PS brand is tarnished. The PS3 sales are pathetic compared to ps2. Sony dropped the ball yet again.

reach3

Yeah, unfortunately its downhill for Sony now. No one will think of the PS4, and think that sounds exciting. They will go for the next Xbox instead.

RR360DD

Sony has been flopping all over the place this gen.

PS3= Flop

PS Move= Flop

Several First Party Exclusives= Flop (sales wise)

PS Vita= Huge Flop

PS4/Orbis= ???

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[QUOTE="reach3"] [QUOTE="RR360DD"]

Yeah, unfortunately its downhill for Sony now. No one will think of the PS4, and think that sounds exciting. They will go for the next Xbox instead.

nervmeister

Sony has been flopping all over the place this gen.

PS3= Flop

PS Move= Flop

Several First Party Exclusives= Flop (sales wise)

PS Vita= Huge Flop

PS4/Orbis= ???

BPoole96

So, do you guys need lotion to whack each other off or is the sheer amount of jelly your bodies now secrete enough to get the job done?

What I said was true though

I even forgot ot mention that PSP GO was a super flop. I forgot it even existed

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So, do you guys need lotion to whack each other off or is the sheer amount of jelly your bodies now secrete enough to get the job done?nervmeister
best post ever

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#24 Stevo_the_gamer  Moderator  Online
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I'm sure Sony was quite disappointed (understating) to go from the first position to the last position, and go from huge profit to huge loss.
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I'm sure Sony was quite disappointed (understating) to go from the first position to the last position, and go from huge profit to huge loss.Stevo_the_gamer

Proof it was a huge loss?

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What I said was true thoughBPoole96
No. Just opinionated drawl, unless you honestly think hype threads for sales numbers alone are prevalent here.

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[QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"]I'm sure Sony was quite disappointed (understating) to go from the first position to the last position, and go from huge profit to huge loss.themajormayor

Proof it was a huge loss?

GS won't let me link properly but here.

http://mashable.com/2012/04/10/sony-6-4-billion-net-loss/

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[QUOTE="BPoole96"]What I said was true thoughnervmeister
No. Just opinionated drawl.

PS2 had nearly a monopoly last gen, now Sony in last place = Fact

Kinect and Wii destroy Move in sales = Fact

Several first party exclusives sell low = Fact

Vita is getting slaughtered by the 3DS = Fact

PSP Go ceases to exist = Fact

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#29 Stevo_the_gamer  Moderator  Online
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Proof it was a huge loss?

themajormayor
You want proof that the original Xbox 360 design was prone to RROD too, and how the Wii had huge sales? Asking for proof for common knowledge. If you're actually serious, I'll take the time to show some links.
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For Sony ? Yes because they lost a lot of money but it wasn't a bad gen for Playstation gamers.
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[QUOTE="themajormayor"]

[QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"]I'm sure Sony was quite disappointed (understating) to go from the first position to the last position, and go from huge profit to huge loss.DeadMan1290

Proof it was a huge loss?

GS won't let me link properly but here.

http://mashable.com/2012/04/10/sony-6-4-billion-net-loss/


I thought he meant the PS3 made huge losses. Anyway Sony didn't actually lose 6.4 billion. The additional 3.5 billion Sony never had in the first place to lose. It's just some economic mumbo jumbo making it look like 6.4 billion.

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[QUOTE="nervmeister"][QUOTE="reach3"]

Yeah, unfortunately its downhill for Sony now. No one will think of the PS4, and think that sounds exciting. They will go for the next Xbox instead.

RR360DD

Sony has been flopping all over the place this gen.

PS3= Flop

PS Move= Flop

Several First Party Exclusives= Flop (sales wise)

PS Vita= Huge Flop

PS4/Orbis= ???

BPoole96
So, do you guys need lotion to whack each other off or is the sheer amount of jelly your bodies now secrete enough to get the job done?

LOL
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[QUOTE="themajormayor"]

Proof it was a huge loss?

Stevo_the_gamer

You want proof that the original Xbox 360 design was prone to RROD too, and how the Wii had huge sales? Asking for proof for common knowledge. If you're actually serious, I'll take the time to show some links.

I've already seen proof for that but never that the PS3incurred huge losses.

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#34 Stevo_the_gamer  Moderator  Online
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I've already seen proof for that but never that the PS3incurred huge losses.themajormayor
You haven't seen links that showed the PS3 wipe out the entire PS2 profits, how it took more than 4 years for Sony to start making money on the PS3, and the huge initial loss from the years? Ah, you started posting in 2011, I see.

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[QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"][QUOTE="themajormayor"]

Proof it was a huge loss?

themajormayor

You want proof that the original Xbox 360 design was prone to RROD too, and how the Wii had huge sales? Asking for proof for common knowledge. If you're actually serious, I'll take the time to show some links.

I've already seen proof for that but never that the PS3incurred huge losses.

Well at the beginning yes, because it was costing Sony more to make a PS3 than to sell it. $800 a PS3 to sell at $500 is a pretty big loss if you count all PS3s sold at the time.

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[QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"]
I've already seen proof for that but never that the PS3incurred huge losses.themajormayor
You haven't seen links that showed the PS3 wipe out the entire PS2 profits, how it took more than 4 years for Sony to start making money on the PS3, and the huge initial loss from the years? Ah, you started posting in 2011, I see.

I know it took 4 years for the actual hardware to be profitable. But Sony's tactics was obviously to make money on the software sales. So taking software into account and the hardware sales of the last years do you have ANY proof the PS3 has been overall a loss?
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[QUOTE="nervmeister"][QUOTE="BPoole96"]What I said was true thoughBPoole96

No. Just opinionated drawl.

PS2 had nearly a monopoly last gen, now Sony in last place = Fact

Kinect and Wii destroy Move in sales = Fact

Several first party exclusives sell low = Fact

Vita is getting slaughtered by the 3DS = Fact

PSP Go ceases to exist = Fact

You'll say anything you can just to sleep at night. Fact.
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[QUOTE="BPoole96"]

[QUOTE="nervmeister"] No. Just opinionated drawl.nervmeister

PS2 had nearly a monopoly last gen, now Sony in last place = Fact

Kinect and Wii destroy Move in sales = Fact

Several first party exclusives sell low = Fact

Vita is getting slaughtered by the 3DS = Fact

PSP Go ceases to exist = Fact

You'll say anything you can just to sleep at night. Fact.

And you'll not even try to refute the points that I made. Must mean that I'm right so you're just resorting to petty insults

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[QUOTE="themajormayor"]I've already seen proof for that but never that the PS3incurred huge losses.Stevo_the_gamer

You haven't seen links that showed the PS3 wipe out the entire PS2 profits, how it took more than 4 years for Sony to start making money on the PS3, and the huge initial loss from the years? Ah, you started posting in 2011, I see.

Microsoft lost $4B on the Xbox and $2B on the X360 (beginning of the generation). Who's to say MS's made that back ? They probably haven't broken even either.
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[QUOTE="nervmeister"][QUOTE="BPoole96"]

PS2 had nearly a monopoly last gen, now Sony in last place = Fact

Kinect and Wii destroy Move in sales = Fact

Several first party exclusives sell low = Fact

Vita is getting slaughtered by the 3DS = Fact

PSP Go ceases to exist = Fact

BPoole96

You'll say anything you can just to sleep at night. Fact.

And you'll not even try to refute the points that I made. Must mean that I'm right so you're just resorting to petty insults

Good job not refuting me and thus proving me right in that you have a terminal case of butthurt.
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[QUOTE="BPoole96"]

[QUOTE="nervmeister"] You'll say anything you can just to sleep at night. Fact.nervmeister

And you'll not even try to refute the points that I made. Must mean that I'm right so you're just resorting to petty insults

Good job not refuting me and thus proving me right in that you have a terminal case of butthurt.

I made valid points/facts. You have made 2 petty insults towards me. I am trying to have a decent conversation about Sony's misfortunes this gen but all you weant to do is flame me

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[QUOTE="Nonstop-Madness"] Microsoft lost $4B on the Xbox and $2B on the X360 (beginning of the generation). Who's to say MS's made that back ? They probably haven't broken even either.

I doubt they have either considering the financial disaster the original Xbox was, but Microsoft should at least be pleased to see how they've performed this generation.
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[QUOTE="nervmeister"][QUOTE="BPoole96"]

And you'll not even try to refute the points that I made. Must mean that I'm right so you're just resorting to petty insults

BPoole96

Good job not refuting me and thus proving me right in that you have a terminal case of butthurt.

I made valid points/facts. You have made 2 petty insults towards me. I am trying to have a decent conversation about Sony's misfortunes this gen but all you weant to do is flame me

Awwww, I'm sorry you have such a problem with that. I guess I'm not helping you cure your insomnia any faster.
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[QUOTE="nervmeister"][QUOTE="BPoole96"]

And you'll not even try to refute the points that I made. Must mean that I'm right so you're just resorting to petty insults

BPoole96

Good job not refuting me and thus proving me right in that you have a terminal case of butthurt.

I made valid points/facts. You have made 2 petty insults towards me. I am trying to have a decent conversation about Sony's misfortunes this gen but all you weant to do is flame me

I mean you dont even have any sources for those facts.
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[QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"][QUOTE="Nonstop-Madness"] Microsoft lost $4B on the Xbox and $2B on the X360 (beginning of the generation). Who's to say MS's made that back ? They probably haven't broken even either.

I doubt they have either considering the financial disaster the original Xbox was, but Microsoft should at least be pleased to see how they've performed this generation.

true.
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I made valid points/facts. You have made 2 petty insults towards me. I am trying to have a decent conversation about Sony's misfortunes this gen but all you weant to do is flame me

BPoole96
You're trying to have a decent conversation with a drone? Silly bpoole. Your old PS3 fans are turning against you! :O
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[QUOTE="BPoole96"]

[QUOTE="nervmeister"] Good job not refuting me and thus proving me right in that you have a terminal case of butthurt.nervmeister

I made valid points/facts. You have made 2 petty insults towards me. I am trying to have a decent conversation about Sony's misfortunes this gen but all you weant to do is flame me

Awwww, I'm sorry you have such a problem with that. I guess I'm not helping you cure your insomnia any faster.

Sorry I have facts to back up my claims and don't rely on insults to win debates. Don't respond if you have nothing of value to say

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[QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"]I'm sure Sony was quite disappointed (understating) to go from the first position to the last position, and go from huge profit to huge loss.themajormayor

Proof it was a huge loss?

Wow. Talk about huge denial.....