Was PS3 a huge disappointment sales-wise after the success of the PS2?

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finally level 10 I see.

well at least its not a troll thread.

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#52 BPoole96
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[QUOTE="BPoole96"]/p>

I made valid points/facts. You have made 2 petty insults towards me. I am trying to have a decent conversation about Sony's misfortunes this gen but all you weant to do is flame me

Stevo_the_gamer

You're trying to have a decent conversation with a drone? Silly bpoole. Your old PS3 fans are turning against you! :O

It seems to be that way :(

I guess some people just can't hande the truth. Even when I primarily played my PS3 I knew these things to be true. This gen has been a disaster for Sony

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#54 rasengan2552
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finally level 10 I see.

well at least its not a troll thread.

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#55 rasengan2552
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finally level 10 I see.

well at least its not a troll thread.

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#56 Gue1
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[QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"][QUOTE="BPoole96"]/p>

I made valid points/facts. You have made 2 petty insults towards me. I am trying to have a decent conversation about Sony's misfortunes this gen but all you weant to do is flame me

BPoole96

You're trying to have a decent conversation with a drone? Silly bpoole. Your old PS3 fans are turning against you! :O

It seems to be that way :(

I guess some people just can't hande the truth. Even when I primarily played my PS3 I knew these things to be true. This gen has been a disaster for Sony

A disaster was the first Xbox, Saturn, Dreamcast, etc (none of them made a dime). Right now the gaming department is what's keeping Sony afloat!

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#57 nervmeister
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[QUOTE="BPoole96"]/p>

I made valid points/facts. You have made 2 petty insults towards me. I am trying to have a decent conversation about Sony's misfortunes this gen but all you weant to do is flame me

Stevo_the_gamer
You're trying to have a decent conversation with a drone? Silly bpoole. Your old PS3 fans are turning against you! :O

Since did I ask for a conversation? I'm simply making observations.
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[QUOTE="BPoole96"]

[QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"] You're trying to have a decent conversation with a drone? Silly bpoole. Your old PS3 fans are turning against you! :OGue1

It seems to be that way :(

I guess some people just can't hande the truth. Even when I primarily played my PS3 I knew these things to be true. This gen has been a disaster for Sony

A disaster was the first Xbox, Saturn, Dreamcast, etc (none of them made a dime). Right now the gaming department is what's keeping Sony afloat!

Given Sony's past track record with consoles the PS3 has been a financial nightmare. As far as games go it has been fine and there have been plenty of quality exclusives to play.

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#59 nervmeister
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I guess some people just can't hande the truth. BPoole96
I know. But the sooner you realize that Nyquil is your friend, the better your chances at getting a good night's rest.
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#60 White_Dreams
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[QUOTE="Gue1"]

[QUOTE="BPoole96"]

It seems to be that way :(

I guess some people just can't hande the truth. Even when I primarily played my PS3 I knew these things to be true. This gen has been a disaster for Sony

BPoole96

A disaster was the first Xbox, Saturn, Dreamcast, etc (none of them made a dime). Right now the gaming department is what's keeping Sony afloat!

Given Sony's past track record with consoles the PS3 has been a financial nightmare. As far as games go it has been fine and there have been plenty of quality exclusives to play.

But it's gaming division is the bright spot of sony, how can that be a nightmare?
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#61 RR360DD
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So, do you guys need lotion to whack each other off or is the sheer amount of jelly your bodies now secrete enough to get the job done?nervmeister

OH YOU MAD BRO.

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[QUOTE="BPoole96"]I guess some people just can't hande the truth. nervmeister
I know. But the sooner you realize that Nyquil is your friend, the better your chances at getting a good night's rest.

Why are you obsessed with my sleeping schedule :?

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#63 nervmeister
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[QUOTE="nervmeister"] So, do you guys need lotion to whack each other off or is the sheer amount of jelly your bodies now secrete enough to get the job done?RR360DD

OH YOU MAD BRO.

So there is enough jelly between you three to go around. Okay then. Just be sure to wipe up when you're done. :)
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#64 White_Dreams
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[QUOTE="nervmeister"][QUOTE="BPoole96"]I guess some people just can't hande the truth. BPoole96

I know. But the sooner you realize that Nyquil is your friend, the better your chances at getting a good night's rest.

Why are you obsessed with my sleeping schedule :?

Again, you never posted the sources for the facts.
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#65 BPoole96
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[QUOTE="BPoole96"]

[QUOTE="Gue1"]

A disaster was the first Xbox, Saturn, Dreamcast, etc (none of them made a dime). Right now the gaming department is what's keeping Sony afloat!

White_Dreams

Given Sony's past track record with consoles the PS3 has been a financial nightmare. As far as games go it has been fine and there have been plenty of quality exclusives to play.

But it's gaming division is the bright spot of sony, how can that be a nightmare?

Just shows how badly Sony is in shambles right now. Hence the mass lay offs taking place there recently, studios getting closed down, Qore being closed, and they are expected to lose $6.4 Billion. Sony is not the electronic giant that it once was

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#66 nervmeister
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[QUOTE="nervmeister"][QUOTE="BPoole96"]I guess some people just can't hande the truth. BPoole96

I know. But the sooner you realize that Nyquil is your friend, the better your chances at getting a good night's rest.

Why are you obsessed with my sleeping schedule :?

I can't be obsessed with something that currently doesn't exist.
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#67 White_Dreams
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[QUOTE="White_Dreams"][QUOTE="BPoole96"]

Given Sony's past track record with consoles the PS3 has been a financial nightmare. As far as games go it has been fine and there have been plenty of quality exclusives to play.

BPoole96

But it's gaming division is the bright spot of sony, how can that be a nightmare?

Just shows how badly Sony is in shambles right now. Hence the mass lay offs taking place there recently, studios getting closed down, Qore being closed, and they are expected to lose $6.4 Billion. Sony is not the electronic giant that it once was

I know about the 6.4 Bil, but that doesn't say anything about the gaming division, we know the other sections don't do well. Studios close down because their output wasn't received well critically and the games didn't sell well, happens all the time.
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#68 BPoole96
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[QUOTE="BPoole96"]

[QUOTE="nervmeister"] I know. But the sooner you realize that Nyquil is your friend, the better your chances at getting a good night's rest.White_Dreams

Why are you obsessed with my sleeping schedule :?

Again, you never posted the sources for the facts.

I shouldn't need to post sources for common knowledge, but I did include a source in the post above this one

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#69 BPoole96
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[QUOTE="BPoole96"]

[QUOTE="nervmeister"] I know. But the sooner you realize that Nyquil is your friend, the better your chances at getting a good night's rest.nervmeister

Why are you obsessed with my sleeping schedule :?

I can't be obsessed with something that currently doesn't exist.

Is this supposed to be funny? Am I supposed to feel offended when you say that I never sleep when I know damn well that I do sleep?

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#70 RR360DD
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[QUOTE="RR360DD"]

[QUOTE="nervmeister"] So, do you guys need lotion to whack each other off or is the sheer amount of jelly your bodies now secrete enough to get the job done?nervmeister

OH YOU MAD BRO.

So there is enough jelly between you three to go around. Okay then. Just be sure to wipe up when you're done. :)

Re-read your reply.

Honestly, what was the point in it?

You know, despite how hilarious it is (congrats on your witty thinking), its not true.

So why continue drag a dead horse.

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#71 White_Dreams
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[QUOTE="White_Dreams"][QUOTE="BPoole96"]

Why are you obsessed with my sleeping schedule :?

BPoole96

Again, you never posted the sources for the facts.

I shouldn't need to post sources for common knowledge, but I did include a source in the post above this one

A source that does nothing to refute my post, and when you put a big FACT at the end of posts it's expected to have a source.
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#72 BPoole96
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[QUOTE="BPoole96"]

[QUOTE="White_Dreams"] But it's gaming division is the bright spot of sony, how can that be a nightmare?White_Dreams

I know about the 6.4 Bil, but that doesn't say anything about the gaming division, we know the other sections don't do well. Studios close down because their output wasn't received well critically and the games didn't sell well, happens all the time.

There you proved my point that first party studios aren't selling well.

Now just look up that PS3 is in last place, Vita is being dominated by the 3DS, PSP Go was a huge flop and its manufacturing has stopped, and that Move is outsold by Kinect.

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#73 White_Dreams
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[QUOTE="White_Dreams"][QUOTE="BPoole96"]

BPoole96

I know about the 6.4 Bil, but that doesn't say anything about the gaming division, we know the other sections don't do well. Studios close down because their output wasn't received well critically and the games didn't sell well, happens all the time.

There you proved my point that first party studios aren't selling well.

Now just look up that PS3 is in last place, Vita is being dominated by the 3DS, PSP Go was a huge flop and its manufacturing has stopped, and that Move is outsold by Kinect.

I know move is outsold by Kinect, I wanted a source for destroying. And you said several I just used the Zipper studio as an example. Still waiting.
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[QUOTE="BPoole96"]

[QUOTE="White_Dreams"] Again, you never posted the sources for the facts.White_Dreams

I shouldn't need to post sources for common knowledge, but I did include a source in the post above this one

A source that does nothing to refute my post, and when you put a big FACT at the end of posts it's expected to have a source.

PS3 is in last place for current gen consoles

PSP out of production

Kinect outsells Move

3DS dominates Vita

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#75 BPoole96
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Killzone poorest selling is series

Resistance 3 poor sales]

Also note that Insomniac has gone multiplatform as well

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#76 White_Dreams
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[QUOTE="White_Dreams"][QUOTE="BPoole96"]

I shouldn't need to post sources for common knowledge, but I did include a source in the post above this one

BPoole96

A source that does nothing to refute my post, and when you put a big FACT at the end of posts it's expected to have a source.

PS3 is in last place for current gen consoles

PSP out of production

Kinect outsells Move

3DS dominates Vita

So just japan, not going to talk about how 3ds and vita are selling about on par in the us?

And 1.2 million behind said in the article, THAT's destroying?

And the several first party thing was definitely bullsh1t

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#77 White_Dreams
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Killzone poorest selling is series

Resistance 3 poor sales]

Also note that Insomniac has gone multiplatform as well

BPoole96
Both vgchartz :/
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#78 reach3
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[QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"]I'm sure Sony was quite disappointed (understating) to go from the first position to the last position, and go from huge profit to huge loss.themajormayor

Proof it was a huge loss?

Wow. Talk about huge denial.....
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#79 Nike_Air
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It's hard for anything to live up to ps2's marketshare dominance , but lets look as some of the positives -

  • 60+ million sold already
  • #1 selling console worldwide as of late (HOT)
  • Arguably the best software sales worldwide as of late (HOT)
  • $199 pricepoint very likely within a years time
  • More exclusives on the way - The Last of Us , God of War IV , The Last Guardian , PS ALL-Stars Battle Royal ...... and many more for all demographics
  • Good 3rd party support now and lined up in the near future

This is very likely headed towards 80+ million lifetime , and who know 100+ million depending on PS4 release and many other factors.

We can come back in 4 years time from now and see how it did compared to the PS2's in it's first decade and compare these two legendary Sony systems.

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[QUOTE="themajormayor"]

[QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"]I'm sure Sony was quite disappointed (understating) to go from the first position to the last position, and go from huge profit to huge loss.reach3

Proof it was a huge loss?

Wow. Talk about huge denial.....

....nice "proof"....
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#81 nervmeister
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[QUOTE="nervmeister"][QUOTE="RR360DD"]

OH YOU MAD BRO.

RR360DD

So there is enough jelly between you three to go around. Okay then. Just be sure to wipe up when you're done. :)

Re-read your reply.

Honestly, what was the point in it?

You know, despite how hilarious it is (congrats on your witty thinking), its not true.

So why continue drag a dead horse.

Out of generosity, I've decided to do you guys a favor by dragging said horse while you guys momentarily rest (and pleasure each other) from all the hard work you put in with these desperate anti-Sony threads.

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[QUOTE="BPoole96"]

[QUOTE="White_Dreams"] A source that does nothing to refute my post, and when you put a big FACT at the end of posts it's expected to have a source.White_Dreams

PS3 is in last place for current gen consoles

PSP out of production

Kinect outsells Move

3DS dominates Vita

So just japan, not going to talk about how 3ds and vita are selling about on par in the us?

And 1.2 million behind said in the article, THAT's destroying?

And the several first party thing was definitely bullsh1t

1) If they are selling on par in the US but 3DS is winning by a wide margin in Japan, that still means the 3Ds is outselling it globalling (not sure about European numbers)

2) Considering the Move is supposed to appeal to core gamers and is cheaper than the Kinect, yes that is a lot.

3) Resistance and Killzone have both seen a decrease of sales.MAG and Socom 4 were a flop (I feel bad for Zipper though since Socom 4 launched during the PSN blackout last year, that probably killed sales). LBP2 hasn't sold as much LBP1 either

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[QUOTE="RR360DD"]

[QUOTE="nervmeister"] So, do you guys need lotion to whack each other off or is the sheer amount of jelly your bodies now secrete enough to get the job done?nervmeister

OH YOU MAD BRO.

So there is enough jelly between you three to go around. Okay then. Just be sure to wipe up when you're done. :)

God damnit that was genius.  the microsoft circle jerk fan base is easily the most disgusting of all the vile drainage that ends up here. Go put that ballgag back in your mouth and bend back over you sorry sacks of flesh. excuse me if I don't stay to watch the show.
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#84 nervmeister
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[QUOTE="nervmeister"][QUOTE="BPoole96"]

Why are you obsessed with my sleeping schedule :?

BPoole96

I can't be obsessed with something that currently doesn't exist.

Is this supposed to be funny? Am I supposed to feel offended when you say that I never sleep when I know damn well that I do sleep?

If you don't even know what to feel anymore, then you might need professional help.
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#85 White_Dreams
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[QUOTE="White_Dreams"]

[QUOTE="BPoole96"]

PS3 is in last place for current gen consoles

PSP out of production

Kinect outsells Move

3DS dominates Vita

BPoole96

So just japan, not going to talk about how 3ds and vita are selling about on par in the us?

And 1.2 million behind said in the article, THAT's destroying?

And the several first party thing was definitely bullsh1t

1) If they are selling on par in the US but 3DS is winning by a wide margin in Japan, that still means the 3Ds is outselling it globalling (not sure about European numbers)

2) Considering the Move is supposed to appeal to core gamers and is cheaper than the Kinect, yes that is a lot.

3) Resistance and Killzone have both seen a decrease of sales.MAG and Socom 4 were a flop (I feel bad for Zipper though since Socom 4 launched during the PSN blackout last year, that probably killed sales). LBP2 hasn't sold as much LBP1 either

1) That's the point, no full data to say something like you said and call it fact.

2.) Agree to disagree.

3.) Sources man, jesus.

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[QUOTE="BPoole96"]

Killzone poorest selling is series

Resistance 3 poor sales]

Also note that Insomniac has gone multiplatform as well

White_Dreams

Both vgchartz :/

Dude this stuff is cmmon knowledge. When I google search these things VG Chartz is the first thing that comes up. I'm not going to go digging for the exact number that are probably relatively close to the VG Chartz numbers anyway. Resistance 3 and Killzone 3 were both worse than their predecessors (yes I know, opinion) and had less features (this is a fact though) so it makes perfect sense as to why they sold less

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#87 RR360DD
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[QUOTE="nervmeister"][QUOTE="RR360DD"]

OH YOU MAD BRO.

ReadingRainbow4

So there is enough jelly between you three to go around. Okay then. Just be sure to wipe up when you're done. :)

God damnit that was genius. the microsoft circle jerk fan base is easily the most disgusting of all the vile drainage that ends up here. Go put that ballgag back in your mouth and bend back over you sorry sacks of flesh. excuse me if I don't stay to watch the show.

That was genius?

LOL

cows are so simple.

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#88 immortality20
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Anyone else think Level 10 is too low to make threads?

Realisticly I think they're doing fine, with terrible marketing and high price at first they were bound to stumble. Also the PSN hacking didn't hurt it, or their utter refusal to say sorry at E3 for it (if I remember right?). They made mistakes, like all of them, but 60+ million is damn impressive for more expensive hardware.

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[QUOTE="nervmeister"][QUOTE="RR360DD"]

OH YOU MAD BRO.

ReadingRainbow4

So there is enough jelly between you three to go around. Okay then. Just be sure to wipe up when you're done. :)

God damnit that was genius.  the microsoft circle jerk fan base is easily the most disgusting of all the vile drainage that ends up here. Go put that ballgag back in your mouth and bend back over you sorry sacks of flesh. excuse me if I don't stay to watch the show.

TLHBO.

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[QUOTE="Heil68"]Considering how big the PS2 sold and how nothing else in the past or today will reach those numbers, no. I never had the PS2 and am more than happy with my PS3. The 360 has been one big disappointment for me, so I wont be buying their next console. Jonwh18

This

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#91 BPoole96
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[QUOTE="BPoole96"]

[QUOTE="nervmeister"]I can't be obsessed with something that currently doesn't exist.nervmeister

Is this supposed to be funny? Am I supposed to feel offended when you say that I never sleep when I know damn well that I do sleep?

If you don't even know what to feel anymore, then you might need professional help.

I will no longer be responding to your further posts. I thought you were actually a good poster on this site but it seems your just a moron and are incapable of having a conversation above elementary grade intellect. If I continue you'll probably say you had your way with my mom or something. No thanks

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The PS2 was teh King. The PS3 is nothing more than a peasant.
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#93 BPoole96
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I'm heading out for the night though so I won't be able to further discuss this. Good day White_Dreams :)

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#94 ReadingRainbow4
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[QUOTE="ReadingRainbow4"][QUOTE="nervmeister"] So there is enough jelly between you three to go around. Okay then. Just be sure to wipe up when you're done. :)RR360DD

God damnit that was genius. the microsoft circle jerk fan base is easily the most disgusting of all the vile drainage that ends up here. Go put that ballgag back in your mouth and bend back over you sorry sacks of flesh. excuse me if I don't stay to watch the show.

That was genius?

LOL

cows are so simple.

Imply simplicity, Halo avatar and SIG.

Your ass has got to be sore, it must be a right b*tch sitting down.

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#95 Stevo_the_gamer  Moderator
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Since did I ask for a conversation? I'm simply making observations.nervmeister
As am I, dear drone, as am I. :]
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#96 rasengan2552
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[QUOTE="nervmeister"][QUOTE="BPoole96"]

Is this supposed to be funny? Am I supposed to feel offended when you say that I never sleep when I know damn well that I do sleep?

BPoole96

If you don't even know what to feel anymore, then you might need professional help.

I will no longer be responding to your further posts. I thought you were actually a good poster on this site but it seems your just a moron and are incapable of having a conversation above elementary grade intellect. If I continue you'll probably say you had your way with my mom or something. No thanks

ALHBO.
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#97 White_Dreams
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[QUOTE="White_Dreams"][QUOTE="BPoole96"]

Killzone poorest selling is series

Resistance 3 poor sales]

Also note that Insomniac has gone multiplatform as well

BPoole96

Both vgchartz :/

Dude this stuff is cmmon knowledge. When I google search these things VG Chartz is the first thing that comes up. I'm not going to go digging for the exact number that are probably relatively close to the VG Chartz numbers anyway. Resistance 3 and Killzone 3 were both worse than their predecessors (yes I know, opinion) and had less features (this is a fact though) so it makes perfect sense as to why they sold less

If it was common knowledge they sold less it would come up in a quick google search not just a fake sales site like VGC, that means the sales aren't known then most likely, which means all this talk about not selling well, and fact was straight bull.

Goodnight.

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#98 RR360DD
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[QUOTE="RR360DD"]

[QUOTE="ReadingRainbow4"] God damnit that was genius. the microsoft circle jerk fan base is easily the most disgusting of all the vile drainage that ends up here. Go put that ballgag back in your mouth and bend back over you sorry sacks of flesh. excuse me if I don't stay to watch the show.ReadingRainbow4

That was genius?

LOL

cows are so simple.

Imply simplicity, Halo avatar and SIG.

Your ass has got to be sore, it must be a right b*tch sitting down.

You're as pathetic as that little midget b*tch in your sig.

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#99 Microsoft1234
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kinda hard to live up to the ps2....
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#100 ReadingRainbow4
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[QUOTE="ReadingRainbow4"]

[QUOTE="RR360DD"]

That was genius?

LOL

cows are so simple.

RR360DD

Imply simplicity, Halo avatar and SIG.

Your ass has got to be sore, it must be a right b*tch sitting down.

You're as pathetic as that little midget b*tch in your sig.

 I gotta ask, do you and your ilk use the resulting secretions from said intimacy as a community hair gel? Always wanted to know.