Weird inconsistancies in Lemming claims... *56k no dice*

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#1 MegajerkNYC
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I wonder why it is that Lemmings claim that they can clearly see the "glaring" differences between multiplat titles?

http://ve3dmedia.ign.com/images/04/36/43676_orig.jpg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4yYss7zrqqY

h2h_prototype_16.jpg

But many of those same keen eyed lemmings "can't tell the difference" between

Bluray

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and DVD

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Or they can't see why everyone thinks PS3 exclusives

http://media.giantbomb.com/uploads/0/56/176841-screenshot024_super.jpg

Look beeter then anything on 360:

http://blog.800hightech.com/wp-content/uploads/halo-3-pic-1.jpg

So here's the deal. Yes I own a 360 and yes the 360 has some good looking games. However for too long Lemmings have justified no bluray player, no wifi, controllers with batteries, RROD, E74, overpriced propritary hard drive and online gaming fees with a single mantra "360 has the best games". But now since the 360 hasen't had a decent non-expansion pack exclusive game in almost a year, the new focus has shifted to the completely unnoticable differences between multiplats. To me this sounds like an excuse. Wouldn't it be better if MS spent money on actually making full games instead of DLC? Shouldn't they shift focus to first party studios instead of twitter on XBL? Don't be upset because PS3 owners are enjoying all the multiplats you are in addition to a superior exclusive game lineup. Talk to Microsoft who would rather delay or outright cancel PC versions of games instead of actually spending money so the 360 can have some exclusives of it's own. Don't tell me they can't afford it.

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#2 killa4lyfe
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the first few points were acctually good but when u got into the crappy pics of gears of war, everyone saw that was bs.

anyways get ur popcorn ready :D

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#3 deactivated-63f6895020e66
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That's a bad pic of Gears 2 :?
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#4 W1NGMAN-
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I wonder why it is that Lemmings claim that they can clearly see the "glaring" differences between multiplat titles?

http://ve3dmedia.ign.com/images/04/36/43676_orig.jpg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4yYss7zrqqY

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Can't.Stop.Looking.At.ARM! :|

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#5 topgunmv
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Hey look, cherrypicked bad screenshots, I've NEVER seen this tactic used before.:roll:

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#6 wolverine4262
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Im really getting sick of posters on here lumping particular groups of people together as if they are all identical carbon copies...
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#7 neo418
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I agree with the blu-ray point ya made cause nothing comes close to blu-ray quality.

Crappy pics of gears are crappy though

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#8 wolverine4262
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Can't.Stop.Looking.At.ARM! :|

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zombie roids are powerful.

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#9 deactivated-59da85d821feb
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Wow. Fail. I never see anybody claiming that they really can't notice any difference between Blu-Ray and DVD. However, I see a lot of claims that the difference isn't enough to warrant an upgrade at the current prices.

And I rarely see lems claiming there are noticable differences in most games. You picked out pictures with no differences anyway. In some games, the differences are noticable.

And you picked out the worst 360 pictures you could find. Lemmings could do the same thing.

Why do you say you own all three consoles as if it makes you fair in your opinions and leanings? (Your sig). It's quite clear you're a cow.

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#10 MegajerkNYC
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Gears 2 looks good. But no one can deny that it has texture issues.

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#11 mitu123
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Like I said before, posting bad screens of a good looking game like Gears of War 2 is not a good idea, watch Lems post better screens.

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#12 wolverine4262
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Gears 2 looks good. But no one can deny that it has texture issues.

MegajerkNYC

Gears has texture issues? Try looking at that ground in the KZ2 pic that YOU posted..

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#13 neo418
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Wow. Fail. I never see anybody claiming that they really can't notice any difference between Blu-Ray and DVD. However, I see a lot of claims that the difference isn't enough to warrant an upgrade at the current prices. And I rarely see lems claiming there are noticable differences. You picked out pictures with no differences anyway. In some games, the differences are very noticable. And you picked out the worst 360 pictures you could find. Lemmings could do the same thing. Why do you pretend to own all three consoles? (Your sig). It's quite clear you're a cow.comeonthehoops

Were you here for resi 5? it was the biggest game at the time that lems pulled over cows for slighlty better looking graphics

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#14 ZoomZoom2490
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gears does look like that up close.

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#15 PoppaGamer
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That was a bit of a low blow with the Gears screen. But I didn't think the uncharted one was all that great either (and by that I mean not a good representation). But you still have valid points. Screen shots shouldn't even be needed, really. Informed people know the difference.
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#16 Shafftehr
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Why does someone start off with a semi-sensible post (sensible in that it's true, insensible in that it seems t operate on some banal assumption that Lemmings are some cohesive unit that is mistakingly being hypocritical) and then completely flush any credibility it may have had down the toilet with *terrible* screenshot choices?
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[QUOTE="comeonthehoops"]Wow. Fail. I never see anybody claiming that they really can't notice any difference between Blu-Ray and DVD. However, I see a lot of claims that the difference isn't enough to warrant an upgrade at the current prices. And I rarely see lems claiming there are noticable differences. You picked out pictures with no differences anyway. In some games, the differences are very noticable. And you picked out the worst 360 pictures you could find. Lemmings could do the same thing. Why do you pretend to own all three consoles? (Your sig). It's quite clear you're a cow.neo418

Were you here for resi 5? it was the biggest game at the time that lems pulled over cows for slighlty better looking graphics

which means something when the console running it is quite a bit cheaper.
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#18 legol1
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i have both console and i buy multiplat on my 360 and exclusive on the ps3 . if you want a more visible comparison try bioshock or fallout3 .
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#19 mitu123
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gears does look like that up close.

ZoomZoom2490
You played it?
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#20 HAZE-Unit
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Thats one ugly sob in gears pic you got :lol:

Try harder, I mean at least be fair when you want to get your point.

geow2

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#21 Hanass
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It's not like that KZ2 and UC pics you posted look remotely good anyway.

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#22 Threebabycows
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KZ2 look awesome alright...(sarcasm)

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#23 ZoomZoom2490
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[QUOTE="HAZE-Unit"]

Thats one ugly sob in gears pic you got :lol:

Try harder, I mean at least be fair when you want to get your point.

geow2

gameplay screens would be nice, nice try though.
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#24 SparkyProtocol
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[QUOTE="MegajerkNYC"]

Gears 2 looks good. But no one can deny that it has texture issues.

Why can't you show it from the POV it is meant to be played? Worst level in the game BTW (grpahics wise) I do not see why Epic did not go back and fix the level to make it on par with the others.
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#25 marklarmer
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its interesting how cows seem so certain of the PS3s graphical superiority in these threads, yet have to add blur and resize screens of games like Forza 3 before criticising them, it just seems a little inconsistent to me.

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#26 killab2oo5
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I predict about 15 more pages of people falling for the trap.
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#27 W1NGMAN-
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Thats one ugly sob in gears pic you got :lol:

Try harder, I mean at least be fair when you want to get your point.

HAZE-Unit

I've played GeoW2 and no way does it ever come close to looking like that screenshot.

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[QUOTE="comeonthehoops"]Wow. Fail. I never see anybody claiming that they really can't notice any difference between Blu-Ray and DVD. However, I see a lot of claims that the difference isn't enough to warrant an upgrade at the current prices. And I rarely see lems claiming there are noticable differences. You picked out pictures with no differences anyway. In some games, the differences are very noticable. And you picked out the worst 360 pictures you could find. Lemmings could do the same thing. Why do you pretend to own all three consoles? (Your sig). It's quite clear you're a cow.neo418

Were you here for resi 5? it was the biggest game at the time that lems pulled over cows for slighlty better looking graphics

Yes I was. That seemed to really be one guy making endless threads about it (I think he's banned now) with pictures with noticable differences, so lems assumed the game was noticable better on the 360. However in motion, the games are virtually identical.
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[QUOTE="HAZE-Unit"]

Thats one ugly sob in gears pic you got :lol:

Try harder, I mean at least be fair when you want to get your point.

W1NGMAN-

I've played GeoW2 and no way does it ever come close to looking like that screenshot.

That screen is from Gears 1, and is only a bullshot.
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[QUOTE="neo418"]

[QUOTE="comeonthehoops"]Wow. Fail. I never see anybody claiming that they really can't notice any difference between Blu-Ray and DVD. However, I see a lot of claims that the difference isn't enough to warrant an upgrade at the current prices. And I rarely see lems claiming there are noticable differences. You picked out pictures with no differences anyway. In some games, the differences are very noticable. And you picked out the worst 360 pictures you could find. Lemmings could do the same thing. Why do you pretend to own all three consoles? (Your sig). It's quite clear you're a cow.comeonthehoops

Were you here for resi 5? it was the biggest game at the time that lems pulled over cows for slighlty better looking graphics

Yes I was. That seemed to really be one guy making endless threads about it (I think he's banned now) with pictures with noticable differences, so lems assumed the game was noticable better on the 360. However in motion, the games are virtually identical.

The thing is cows pretend like there games are leagues better graphically, and they are not, so we retaliate. RE5 PS3 has slightly worse textures, QAA(while 360 has 4xAA), and the 360 version has a better frame rate... So you can't really tell the difference, but they are still there and they tell you things about the consoles.

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[QUOTE="HAZE-Unit"]

Thats one ugly sob in gears pic you got :lol:

Try harder, I mean at least be fair when you want to get your point.

geow2

ZoomZoom2490

gameplay screens would be nice, nice try though.

Gameplay looks slightly different so here is a pic before people start whining.

g2

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#32 W1NGMAN-
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[QUOTE="W1NGMAN-"]

[QUOTE="HAZE-Unit"]

Thats one ugly sob in gears pic you got :lol:

Try harder, I mean at least be fair when you want to get your point.

mitu123

I've played GeoW2 and no way does it ever come close to looking like that screenshot.

That screen is from Gears 1, and is only a bullshot.

It can't be gameplay especially if that's Gears 1....cause that pic blows anything I played in GeoW2 out of the water.

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Gears 2 does look quite ugly up close sometimes but it's not like you're going to sit 3 inches away from the screen. Anyway, the real issue here is WTF is wrong with Chris's arm???
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#34 Threebabycows
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[QUOTE="mitu123"][QUOTE="W1NGMAN-"]

I've played GeoW2 and no way does it ever come close to looking like that screenshot.

W1NGMAN-

That screen is from Gears 1, and is only a bullshot.

It can't be gameplay especially if that's Gears 1....cause that pic blows anything I played in GeoW2 out of the water.

Doesn't really look that different TBH.

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#35 aflakian
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Why are people complaining about the Gears 2 pic and not the Uncharted one?
Both are extreme close-ups that aren't relative to actual gameplay.

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#36 topgunmv
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It's probably a screenshot from the pc version of gears1, since those big monster guys weren't in the console one.

[QUOTE="mitu123"][QUOTE="W1NGMAN-"]

I've played GeoW2 and no way does it ever come close to looking like that screenshot.

W1NGMAN-

That screen is from Gears 1, and is only a bullshot.

It can't be gameplay especially if that's Gears 1....cause that pic blows anything I played in GeoW2 out of the water.

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#37 aero250
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When you showed the terrible gears of war pic you failed.
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#38 lhughey
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i love it how people make post grouping all cows or lemmings together like they have meetings to discuss their fanboy platform and issue a coordinated response.
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In many instances of multiplats, the 360 version will have better AA but the PS3 version will have far less pop-in. You won't ever hear Eurogamer ever talking about texture pop in though. But who cares what they think, they don't even try to hide their bias.

The multiplats look the same. 99.99% of the time.

Yes I prefer my PS3 but that doesn't mean I'm not rooting for great exclusive games to play on my 360. That doesn't change the fact that the 360 had a better exclusive game lineup in 2005 then it does in 2009.

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#40 mitu123
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[QUOTE="mitu123"][QUOTE="W1NGMAN-"]

I've played GeoW2 and no way does it ever come close to looking like that screenshot.

W1NGMAN-

That screen is from Gears 1, and is only a bullshot.

It can't be gameplay especially if that's Gears 1....cause that pic blows anything I played in GeoW2 out of the water.

That's the PC version, I've seen the PC version and it doesn't look like that screenshot.
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#41 W1NGMAN-
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It's probably a screenshot from the pc version of gears1, since those big monster guys weren't in the console one.

[QUOTE="W1NGMAN-"]

[QUOTE="mitu123"] That screen is from Gears 1, and is only a bullshot.topgunmv

It can't be gameplay especially if that's Gears 1....cause that pic blows anything I played in GeoW2 out of the water.

That sounds much more reasonable.

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#42 mitu123
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MegajerkNYC, I agree that 2005 does look better than 2009 for 360 exclusives, LOL.

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#43 SpiritOfFire117
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Cherrypicked screenshots and BR/DVD "movie" comparisons FTL

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#44 CannedWorms
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  • If you're going to have a graphics argument, you pick the best screenshots from each game. It's a given all games are going to have some texture issues here and there
  • Don't generalize all 360 owners, they have opinions which differ and vary

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#45 chikenfriedrice
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most multiplats do look better on the 360it's a fact....Bluray does look better than DVD it's a fact.....can't compare exclusives cuz I'm sure anything the ps3 can do the 360 can do and visa versa

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#46 Fizzman
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It doesnt matter how insignifigent the graphics between the PS3 and 360 MP are. All that matters is that the cheaper console plays those MP just a tad bit better. NJ on picking terrible Gears 2 pic btw.

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#47 DerekLoffin
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As I've pointed out for Cows, I'll point out for Lemmings: If Joe says X, and Tom says Not X, even though both Joe and Tom belong to the same group does not make that group hypocrites or inconsistent. It just means different members of that group hold internally different views. Now if you catch a Lemming or Cow going on about minor graphical differences, then dismissing the DVD/Blu-ray quality difference (or for that matter vice versa), be sure to nail him to the wall, but till then this really isn't interesting.
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#48 swazidoughman
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I'm sorry, but this thread is full of fail.

If you're going to do comparisons then pick gameplay screenshots from games, not shots set up to look their worst or best.

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#49 Rikusaki
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Thats one ugly sob in gears pic you got :lol:

Try harder, I mean at least be fair when you want to get your point.

geow2

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I call bullshot. I see no aliasing. Impossible.

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#50 papi_lekker
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EVERYONE STOP, ITS SOMEHOW A TRAP DONT FALL IN IT OMG CAPS LOCK!

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