Weird inconsistancies in Lemming claims... *56k no dice*

megajerkNYC, try posting ACTUAL GAMEPLAY SCREENSHOTS from each game

By actual gameplay screenshots I mean not zoomed in 100x.
Since you own all 3 systems it shouldn't be too hard right?

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[QUOTE="swazidoughman"]

Like I said before, the blur caused by Quincunx results in the illusion lower detail.

And what seems like better normal/bump map detail is probably caused by the gamma/contrast of the 360 version.

ALSO! In the same post you compared a crappy KZ2 screenshot to a good Gears2 screenshot which makes you just as bad as the OP.

swazidoughman

The QAA may contribute to lower detail, but it's obvious there are detail maps missing on the PS3 version. I post in-game shots. If you think one looks better that's on you. Stop trying so hard. The 360 is obviously better. Better AA, textures, shadows, and shaders.

Textures are completely equal.

Higher contrast is likely what brings out the extra "detail".

Better AA in this case is subjective since most of the time it's 2x which doesn't remove as many jaggies as QAA.

So blurry is better than crisp and clear with identical amounts of aliasing? Whatever floats your boat.

Mark my words there is detail or normal mapping missing in the PS3 shot on the bottom. Sorry. In the comparison I linked he found the there were shadows and smoke effects missing from the PS3 version. Admit it, the 360 looks better.

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The QAA may contribute to lower detail, but it's obvious there are detail maps missing on the PS3 version. I post in-game shots. If you think one looks better that's on you. Stop trying so hard. The 360 is obviously better. Better AA, textures, shadows, and shaders.

gamecubepad

Textures are completely equal.

Higher contrast is likely what brings out the extra "detail".

Better AA in this case is subjective since most of the time it's 2x which doesn't remove as many jaggies as QAA.

So blurry is better than crisp and clear with identical amounts of aliasing? Whatever floats your boat.

Mark my words there is detail or normal mapping missing in the PS3 shot on the bottom. Sorry. In the comparison I linked he found the there were shadows and smoke effects missing from the PS3 version. Admit it, the 360 looks better.

I already know the 360 version looks better (I actually said that in an ealier post btw), I'm jsut saying that the difference is very minor and not worth mentioning.l

I already know the 360 version looks better (I actually said that in an ealier post btw), I'm jsut saying that the difference is very minor and not worth mentioning.l

swazidoughman

Fair enough. I still think it's worth mentioning that the system that released one year earlier and cost half as much as the the other looks better while pushing better AA and more detail. Not game changing, but another multiplat that looks better on the 360 than PS3.

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[QUOTE="Hanass"]

IT's the PC version.

swazidoughman

And this.

It's like playing bullshots.

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I already know the 360 version looks better (I actually said that in an ealier post btw), I'm jsut saying that the difference is very minor and not worth mentioning.l

gamecubepad

Fair enough. I still think it's worth mentioning that the system that released one year earlier and cost half as much as the the other looks better while pushing better AA and more detail. Not game changing, but another multiplat that looks better on the 360 than PS3.

About the price thing.

In order for the 360 to match the features of the PS3 you're gonna have to spend more than $400 ;)

There are always weird inconsistencies in FANBOY claims.

Anyways RE5 on PS3 is really inferior in some aspects to 360. From what I remember search for screen shots where there is water and you will see at least one difference out in the open, guaranteed.

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And this.

zero_snake99

It's like playing bullshots.

That was purely an example and I only run like that with Older games.

Most of the time I'm running with 2-4xAA and I personally never put AF over 8x because I don't notice any significant difference after that.

[QUOTE="tirralirra"]Reistence 2 is one of the best looking games this gen. Gears graphics is overrated. Selective screenshots are not cool. To be fair, the graphics between 360 and ps3 are far too similar to compare, if only there were ps3 games with 1080pchikenfriedrice

Resistence 2 is ugly! idk what ur talking bout

Resident Evil 5 is good because of the online co-op and the $50 I didn't pay to play co-op on PS3 looks way better in my wallet.

You're trying really hard. And those screens you posted look exactly the same. But hey, if saying it looks better makes you feel like paying for XBL is worth it I'm not going to try and take that away from you.

That was purely an example and I only run like that with Older games.

Most of the time I'm running with 2-4xAA and I personally never put AF over 8x because I don't notice any significant difference after that.

swazidoughman

Ahh, ok. I have a 7900 GS. I need to upgrade my PC for school, though I'm going to wait for the next flood of great video cards. Hopefully DX 11 compatible cards won't be too pricey.

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That was purely an example and I only run like that with Older games.

Most of the time I'm running with 2-4xAA and I personally never put AF over 8x because I don't notice any significant difference after that.

zero_snake99

Ahh, ok. I have a 7900 GS. I need to upgrade my PC for school, though I'm going to wait for the next flood of great video cards. Hopefully DX 11 compatible cards won't be too pricey.

Lowest end one gonna be $50.

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[QUOTE="swazidoughman"]

That was purely an example and I only run like that with Older games.

Most of the time I'm running with 2-4xAA and I personally never put AF over 8x because I don't notice any significant difference after that.

Hanass

Ahh, ok. I have a 7900 GS. I need to upgrade my PC for school, though I'm going to wait for the next flood of great video cards. Hopefully DX 11 compatible cards won't be too pricey.

Lowest end one gonna be $50.

I doubt the $50 will run any DX11 content at a reasonable pace.

I know right? Those fences DO look EXACTLY the same. So do these:

If you have to bend facts to suit your argument it means you don't have much confidence in it.

Resident Evil 5 is good because of the online co-op and the $50 I didn't pay to play co-op on PS3 looks way better in my wallet.

You're trying really hard. And those screens you posted look exactly the same. But hey, if saying it looks better makes you feel like paying for XBL is worth it I'm not going to try and take that away from you.

MegajerkNYC

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And heres Crysis. Once again proving PC gaming dominates all.

*picture*

Hanass

Final version doesn't look as nice :(

It can look like the pre-alpha game if you tweak the ToD settings correctly, like so:

You are wrong about everything you have ever said.

/thread

I'm pretty sure that's Gears Of War on the PC. Someone correct me on that one...Zythyl

[QUOTE="Zythyl"]I'm pretty sure that's Gears Of War on the PC. Someone correct me on that one...mitu123

Ok one: that was a horrible pic of Gears 2, two: every group out there are hypocrites, comes with the territory.

Reistence 2 is one of the best looking games this gen. Gears graphics is overrated. Selective screenshots are not cool. To be fair, the graphics between 360 and ps3 are far too similar to compare, if only there were ps3 games with 1080ptirralirra

Lol i hope your kidding, Resistance 2 can look quite ugly at times and is really only average looking.

[QUOTE="Syferonik"]Sorry son but RE5 on 360 looks much better even cows know this already...and if U2 was on 360 it would look better aswell same for KZ2 :lol:swazidoughman

Visually RE5 on PS3 and 360 are actually pretty much the same.

The big difference is the type of AA used.
360 uses MSAA which in the case of RE5 can be anywhere from 0-4x
PS3 uses Quincux which does remove many jaggies (about as much as 4x), but it also causes a minor blurring of the image which can make textures seem lower quality even though in reality they're equal.

There are also some shader effetcs that are inferior on the PS3 version, but it's nothing that anyone would notice during regular gameplay.

You forgot the lack of reflections in the water, also, slightly smoother frame rate.

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[QUOTE="swazidoughman"]

Final version doesn't look as nice :(

zero_snake99

It can look like the pre-alpha game if you tweak the ToD settings correctly, like so:

How does graphics prove PC gaming dominates all anyway?

You forgot one thing though TC, Unreal Engine 3.5 is VERY different from Uncharted's Engine, UC Engine is exclusive to the Playstation 3 and was built from the ground up on the PS3. Unreal Engine 3.5 is a multiplatform engine that was not built from the ground up for the Xbox 360.

Thats one ugly sob in gears pic you got :lol:

Try harder, I mean at least be fair when you want to get your point.

HAZE-Unit

the one he put is in game the one you put is movie in the game.

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Thats one ugly sob in gears pic you got :lol:

Try harder, I mean at least be fair when you want to get your point.

simslifer

the one he put is in game the one you put is movie in the game.

1. your used bad pictures even for the ps3 games.
2.come back when you use a better dvd picture cause lets see i played dvd movies quite recently and they are never that fuzzy.

1. your used bad pictures even for the ps3 games.
2.come back when you use a better dvd picture cause lets see i played dvd movies quite recently and they are never that fuzzy.

WilliamRLBaker

It doesn't matter anyway, the difference between Hd and dvd is very very clear.

Since someone asked, here are pics of water graphics from both games. Both games look incredible so this is silly anyway, but, to be fair, I did google searches for both and took pics from the first pages of both. The links to the searches are near the pics. Also, they are both gameplay shots.

Gears 2

Gears 2 Google Search

Uncharted: Drake's Fortune

Uncharted Google Search

EDIT: I got rid the picture I found on Google because it was a Gears 1 pic. I have placed in a Gears 2 pic found on GameSpot. I left the google link there anyway.

Since someone asked, here are pics of water graphics from both games. Both games look incredible so this is silly anyway, but, to be fair, I did google searces for both and took pics from the first pages of both. The links to the searches are near the pics. Also, they are both gameplay shots.

Gears 2

Maxyboy13

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Since someone asked, here are pics of water graphics from both games. Both games look incredible so this is silly anyway, but, to be fair, I did google searces for both and took pics from the first pages of both. The links to the searches are near the pics. Also, they are both gameplay shots.

Gears 2

videogamesdead6

What's so bad? I used the same requirements for finding each pic.

[QUOTE="Maxyboy13"]

Since someone asked, here are pics of water graphics from both games. Both games look incredible so this is silly anyway, but, to be fair, I did google searches for both and took pics from the first pages of both. The links to the searches are near the pics. Also, they are both gameplay shots.

Gears 2

Gears 2 Google Search

Uncharted: Drake's Fortune

Uncharted Google Search

DarkGamer007

That Gears of War 2 image is actually Gears of War 1, it is in the part of the game where you go underground to plant the resignator.

Darn it. Well, the more you know. I think it's really impressive that Gears 1 looks that good. I'll just go to the GameSpot galleries and find a different pic.

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I wonder why it is that Lemmings claim that they can clearly see the "glaring" differences between multiplat titles?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4yYss7zrqqY

W1NGMAN-

Can't.Stop.Looking.At.ARM! :|

Hey look, cherrypicked bad screenshots, I've NEVER seen this tactic used before.:roll:

topgunmv

It's kinda sad that he needs to use that to prove his point.

Does TC seriously think he has a 360?

I changed the Gears 1 pic to a Gears 2 pic.

the real issue here is WTF is wrong with Chris's arm???Floppy_Jim

Fact Gears of war models up close are horrible. Uncharted has INCREDIBLY higher texture resolutions for almost about everything compared to Gears. Does this mean Gears can't be improved? No. It just means the Engine/Developer took the easy way out.

Also honestly I don't think the textures in KZ2 are as horrible as people say. The blur definitely does exist, but its played out as if the game is so blurry that it makes it look ugly. This is far from the truth. Heres a few close up pictures I took.

Up close it may look not as good as when your actually playing, but it doesn;t come anywhere near the Gears1/2 shot.

This is some random guy upclose. His face textures are also better than those posted of Gears.

These are some of the floor textures used on the ship. Looks rather clear. If you have the game check it out yourself.

These are one of the wall textures and this one is horrible. Just showing I took randoms creens and didn't take a million pictures of the ebst spots.

This floor texture on the battleground is by far from the best, but it's sitll pretty decent. Especially since I'm zoomed in on it.

This was another wall texture. Definitely not the best, but still it's a ton better than a good amount of the textures in Gears/2.

I'm by far not a fanboy. I just thought Gears gfx were overrated even for when they first came out. I also think it's definitely over rated, but whatever I'll probably be flamed for this post regardless of the fact that I like both consoles.

[QUOTE="Floppy_Jim"] the real issue here is WTF is wrong with Chris's arm???Rockman999

I thought his arm looked really weird also.

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[QUOTE="Floppy_Jim"] the real issue here is WTF is wrong with Chris's arm???bigblunt537

I thought his arm looked really weird also.

You pretty much lost credibility when you posted the worst pic of Gears 2 you could find on the Internet.

I predict about 15 more pages of people falling for the trap.killab2oo5

Haha, what makes you think that?

Wow this thread is funny. Love how TC compared cutscene shots(PS3) to in game shots.(X360) :lol:jakarai

The Uncharted screen was not a cutscene pic. There were no cutscenes in that part of the game. The pic of the chick in Uncharted is also real time. If you have the game. Take a gun and zoom in on her face.