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#101 Episode_Eve
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- Lol, you picked the worst pics you could fine of Gears. - Though KZ2 & Uncharted do look better than the pics you posted. - Either way, the graphical differences in multiplats now-a-days are minute. And blu-ray def. makes a huge difference on my 51" HDTV :D.
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#102 videogamesdead6
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that gears of war pic was probley taken when the game was still loading in textures.
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#103 videogamesdead6
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if you do fast movements in gears of war that game sometimes doesnt stream all the high res as soon as u turn loads seconds later lol probley what happened.
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#104 mitu123
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[QUOTE="neo418"]

I agree with the blu-ray point ya made cause nothing comes close to blu-ray quality.

Crappy pics of gears are crappy though

YekDastan316

zoomed in like that gears pic you can see it looks disgusting compared to zoomed in uncharted pic.

That depends on how compressed the image is though, you can make any game look bad like that, I've seen bad pics of Metal Gear Solid 4 and the game looks great, even Crysis on it's lowest settings of course.
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#105 mitu123
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[QUOTE="mitu123"]

[QUOTE="Espada12"]

Both of those looks like a PS2 game.. wow.

Espada12

I don't think the PS2 is capable of having graphics like Uncharted.

I know.. that's how bad the pictures he is using are... O.O

Touche.
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#106 videogamesdead6
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gears of war seems to have this issue even on pc sometimes if you look at peoples models lol the textures wont be high res didnt load when u turned the second u looked at them like move alittle around and high res texture will finally appear lol samething with gears on 360
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#107 mitu123
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gears of war seems to have this issue even on pc sometimes if you look at peoples models lol the textures wont be high res didnt load when u turned the second u looked at them like move alittle around and high res texture will finally appear lol samething with gears on 360 videogamesdead6
The more I played it, the more sometimes I even noticed it!:shock:

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#108 Ze_ALEX
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post the worst gears of war 2 pic for this comparison!
GO!

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#109 360hammer
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[QUOTE="Zaibach"]

[QUOTE="videogamesdead6"]lol thanks for proving how pointless blu ray is the damn picture doesnt even look any better than dvd LOL honestly i thought dvd looked better videogamesdead6

You need to see your eye doctor asap, and please dont drive.

the dvd had better color

While your there have the doctor test for color blindness as well. Seriously if you cannot see the people in the background are so much clearer in the BR shot versus the DVD shot you really should have your eyes checked.

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#110 Rikusaki
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[QUOTE="HAZE-Unit"]

[QUOTE="Hanass"]

IT's the PC version.

swazidoughman

And this.

It's like playing bullshots.

Haha, yeah. :P What graphics card do you have?

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#111 shutdown_202
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And heres Crysis. Once again proving PC gaming dominates all.

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#112 tumle
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[QUOTE="tumle"]

[QUOTE="CannedWorms"]

  • If you're going to have a graphics argument, you pick the best screenshots from each game. It's a given all games are going to have some texture issues here and there
  • Don't generalize all 360 owners, they have opinions which differ and vary

CannedWorms

why should it be any different to how lemmings treat cows?

And i think the TC has some valid points, but messed up a little when he used that gears pic, because now the lemmings only want to talk about that one point in his topic.

No, it should not be different. I don't even own a 360, I just hate when people say "LAWL I taught cows dont play salez" or "wii owners is r scared or games". My point is, I hate generalisers.

oh ok sry then, just the wording that confused me:)

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#113 swazidoughman
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[QUOTE="swazidoughman"]

[QUOTE="HAZE-Unit"]

And this.

Rikusaki

It's like playing bullshots.

Haha, yeah. :P What graphics card do you have?

I have an 8800gt, so 16xQSSAA isn't really that great in most new games.

Although at the time of purchase it was the best bang for the buck card.

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#114 enygma500
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[QUOTE="videogamesdead6"][QUOTE="Zaibach"] You need to see your eye doctor asap, and please dont drive.

360hammer

the dvd had better color

While your there have the doctor test for color blindness as well. Seriously if you cannot see the people in the background are so much clearer in the BR shot versus the DVD shot you really should have your eyes checked.

Seriously. Look at the snow, the people in the back ground, the guys armor...EVERYTHING in the Blu-ray shot just blows DVD outta the water. It's far clearer and more colorful. I smell an HD-DVD fanboy pissed that HD-DVD failed.

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#115 Rikusaki
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[QUOTE="Rikusaki"]

[QUOTE="swazidoughman"]

It's like playing bullshots.

swazidoughman

Haha, yeah. :P What graphics card do you have?

I have an 8800gt, so 16xQSSAA isn't really that great in most new games.

Although at the time of purchase it was the best bang for the buck card.

Ohh, nice that is similar to my card, the 8800 GTS-512. :)

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#116 therealnerdd
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I will never understand lemmings redicilous claims either, it seems they have really good eye sight, or maybe us gamers need glassess in order to see how the 360 gamesare more graphically better looking than crysis, killzone 2, uncharted..etc.

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#117 Androvinus
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resistance 2 is a great looking game in the offline campaign. it is one of the best looking games up to 2008. gears 2 also looks great. who cares if the texture looks a bit blurred when you full zoom ur sniper rifle and aim it at the nearest wall.
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#118 Syferonik
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Sorry son but RE5 on 360 looks much better even cows know this already...and if U2 was on 360 it would look better aswell same for KZ2 :lol:
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#119 swazidoughman
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And heres Crysis. Once again proving PC gaming dominates all.

*picture*

shutdown_202

Final version doesn't look as nice :(

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#120 ASRCSR
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The blue ray and dvd comparsion showed some differences, not much but some. The blu-ray was crisp and the dvd was good but a little fuzzy.

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#121 Androvinus
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Sorry son but RE5 on 360 looks much better even cows know this already...and if U2 was on 360 it would look better aswell same for KZ2 :lol:Syferonik
you just proved his point. he provided picture comparisons and both versions are identical. i have seen numerous comparisons and they are all basically the same. stop kidding yourselves lems
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#122 DBhova23
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[QUOTE="videogamesdead6"]difference between blu ray and dvd is not worth the money. plus so many movies that are on dvd that you cant even buy on blu ray. Hell there's many movies on vhs that still havent even come to dvd yet.

do you own a 50in hdtv or greater? if not, its probably not worth it.
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#123 Zaibach
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[QUOTE="360hammer"]

[QUOTE="videogamesdead6"] the dvd had better colorenygma500

While your there have the doctor test for color blindness as well. Seriously if you cannot see the people in the background are so much clearer in the BR shot versus the DVD shot you really should have your eyes checked.

Seriously. Look at the snow, the people in the back ground, the guys armor...EVERYTHING in the Blu-ray shot just blows DVD outta the water. It's far clearer and more colorful. I smell an HD-DVD fanboy pissed that HD-DVD failed.

I smell it too

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#124 Riverwolf007
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i never thought there was much difference between the two systems but looking at that re5 pic makes me realize i was wrong

that was the pic you used to show that there is very little difference? really? is it really that bad on ps3? there has to be more to this than what i'm looking at maybe the people who made the re5 comparason pic were biased for the 360 or something

EDIT: ok i looked at the re5 pic again, maybe the ps3 looks worse because the guys more in the background or something, seriously the textures on that toon look as bad as the ones on resistence 2

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#125 swazidoughman
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[QUOTE="videogamesdead6"]difference between blu ray and dvd is not worth the money. plus so many movies that are on dvd that you cant even buy on blu ray. Hell there's many movies on vhs that still havent even come to dvd yet.DBhova23
do you own a 50in hdtv or greater? if not, its probably not worth it.

I use a 23" 1080p monitor with my PS3.

Even on that small of a screen the difference between 480p and 1080p is extremely massive.
It's worth it even with a smaller screen.

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#126 mitu123
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[QUOTE="Rikusaki"]

[QUOTE="swazidoughman"]

It's like playing bullshots.

swazidoughman

Haha, yeah. :P What graphics card do you have?

I have an 8800gt, so 16xQSSAA isn't really that great in most new games.

Although at the time of purchase it was the best bang for the buck card.

This might be a dumb question to ask, but is the RadeonHD 4850, which is what I have, is better than a 8800GT?

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#127 Panther501
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[QUOTE="MegajerkNYC"]

Gears 2 looks good. But no one can deny that it has texture issues.

wolverine4262

Gears has texture issues? Try looking at that ground in the KZ2 pic that YOU posted..

The ground looks great. Take off your lemming glasses and look.
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#128 shutdown_202
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[QUOTE="shutdown_202"]

And heres Crysis. Once again proving PC gaming dominates all.

*picture*

swazidoughman

Final version doesn't look as nice :(

Really? Cant say ive played it myself but i've seen some videos on ultra high that look just as good, or atleast near the quality of that pic.

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#129 videogamesdead6
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[QUOTE="DBhova23"][QUOTE="videogamesdead6"]difference between blu ray and dvd is not worth the money. plus so many movies that are on dvd that you cant even buy on blu ray. Hell there's many movies on vhs that still havent even come to dvd yet.

do you own a 50in hdtv or greater? if not, its probably not worth it.

i dont even own a hdtv i own like a 17 and 19 tube moniter crt flatscreens. both do 1600x1200 though. i have a 360 also, but i seen 360/ps3 or at friends plenty of times on a hdtv , honestly i think hdtv's have terrible picture.
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#130 videogamesdead6
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frickin 1080p on a hdtv doesnt even look as good as 1600x1200 on my crt moniters LOL
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#131 videogamesdead6
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those dumbasses at microsoft and devs should add correct 1280x1024 5:4 support i can run 360 on my crt's but i get black bars top and bottom of screen because dumbass 1280x720 crap native res. they dont even add correct upscaling it should beable to upscale 1280x720 native game to 1280x1024 without the box's.
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#132 swazidoughman
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[QUOTE="swazidoughman"]

[QUOTE="Rikusaki"] Haha, yeah. :P What graphics card do you have?

mitu123

I have an 8800gt, so 16xQSSAA isn't really that great in most new games.

Although at the time of purchase it was the best bang for the buck card.

This might be a dumb question to ask, but is the RadeonHD 4850, which is what I have, is better than a 8800GT?

Yes it is.

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#133 mitu123
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[QUOTE="mitu123"]

[QUOTE="swazidoughman"]

I have an 8800gt, so 16xQSSAA isn't really that great in most new games.

Although at the time of purchase it was the best bang for the buck card.

swazidoughman

This might be a dumb question to ask, but is the RadeonHD 4850, which is what I have, is better than a 8800GT?

Yes it is.

Hmm, maybe it wasn't such a dumb question, I wanted to know to be able to run newer games at high settings, LOL.
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#134 Doolz2024
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LOL Topics like these are what make SW so great. :D
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#135 swazidoughman
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[QUOTE="swazidoughman"]

[QUOTE="mitu123"] This might be a dumb question to ask, but is the RadeonHD 4850, which is what I have, is better than a 8800GT?

mitu123

Yes it is.

Hmm, maybe it wasn't such a dumb question, I wanted to know to be able to run newer games at high settings, LOL.

A 8800gt can still run newer games on the highest settings.

Just not with 16xQSSAA :cry:

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#136 mitu123
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[QUOTE="mitu123"][QUOTE="swazidoughman"]

Yes it is.

swazidoughman

Hmm, maybe it wasn't such a dumb question, I wanted to know to be able to run newer games at high settings, LOL.

A 8800gt can still run newer games on the highest settings.

Just not with 16xQSSAA :cry:

That's too bad, time for you to get a new card.:P

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#137 wolverine4262
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[QUOTE="wolverine4262"]

[QUOTE="MegajerkNYC"]

Gears 2 looks good. But no one can deny that it has texture issues.

Panther501

Gears has texture issues? Try looking at that ground in the KZ2 pic that YOU posted..

The ground looks great. Take off your lemming glasses and look.

yes, massive gray textures are "great"....btw, i dont wear glasses.
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#138 Androvinus
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[QUOTE="videogamesdead6"][QUOTE="DBhova23"][QUOTE="videogamesdead6"]difference between blu ray and dvd is not worth the money. plus so many movies that are on dvd that you cant even buy on blu ray. Hell there's many movies on vhs that still havent even come to dvd yet.

do you own a 50in hdtv or greater? if not, its probably not worth it.

i dont even own a hdtv i own like a 17 and 19 tube moniter crt flatscreens. both do 1600x1200 though. i have a 360 also, but i seen 360/ps3 or at friends plenty of times on a hdtv , honestly i think hdtv's have terrible picture.

they obviously are not using hdmi cables.
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#139 Hanass
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[QUOTE="shutdown_202"]

And heres Crysis. Once again proving PC gaming dominates all.

*picture*

swazidoughman

Final version doesn't look as nice :(

It can look like the pre-alpha game if you tweak the ToD settings correctly, like so:

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#140 swazidoughman
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Sorry son but RE5 on 360 looks much better even cows know this already...and if U2 was on 360 it would look better aswell same for KZ2 :lol:Syferonik

Visually RE5 on PS3 and 360 are actually pretty much the same.

The big difference is the type of AA used.
360 uses MSAA which in the case of RE5 can be anywhere from 0-4x
PS3 uses Quincux which does remove many jaggies (about as much as 4x), but it also causes a minor blurring of the image which can make textures seem lower quality even though in reality they're equal.

There are also some shader effetcs that are inferior on the PS3 version, but it's nothing that anyone would notice during regular gameplay.

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#141 II_Seraphim_II
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All fanboys are irrational regardless of which side they are on. Don;t pick on lemmings only because cows and sheep are just as bad.
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#142 swazidoughman
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[QUOTE="swazidoughman"]

[QUOTE="mitu123"] Hmm, maybe it wasn't such a dumb question, I wanted to know to be able to run newer games at high settings, LOL.mitu123

A 8800gt can still run newer games on the highest settings.

Just not with 16xQSSAA :cry:

That's too bad, time for you to get a new card.:P

Bah! I'll just use what I have until I make a whole new build in 1-2 years

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#143 mitu123
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[QUOTE="mitu123"]

[QUOTE="swazidoughman"]

A 8800gt can still run newer games on the highest settings.

Just not with 16xQSSAA :cry:

swazidoughman

That's too bad, time for you to get a new card.:P

Bah! I'll just use what I have until I make a whole new build in 1-2 years

Ok, good idea, as long as you can play games on high settings, that's what matters the most.
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#144 gamecubepad
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There's a noticeable difference between RE5 on 360 and PS3. Here's a few shots and a link to the comparison. Not a huge deal, but the 360 is obviously better. Notice the fence detail in the first pics, chainsaw detail(esp. chain) on the second pics, and overall face detail in the third. Not only that, the 360 version is sporting better AA, textures, and shaders. Not only that, the PS3 is even missing geometry and effects found on the 360 version. Better is better cows. Accept this.

RE5 Comparison

Also, Killzone 2 is the best looking console game, but not by much. Gears and RE5 easily give it a run for it's money.

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#145 CannedWorms
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LOL Topics like these are what make SW so great. :DDoolz2024
No, graphics thread and half-assed attempts at trolling is what makes SW boring.
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#147 KHAndAnime
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:lol: Yup, since I own a 360 - I can't own a separate Blu-Ray player or anything like that. Oh wait...
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#148 gamecubepad
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Like I said before, the blur caused by Quincunx results in the illusion lower detail.

And what seems like better normal/bump map detail is probably caused by the gamma/contrast of the 360 version.

ALSO! In the same post you compared a crappy KZ2 screenshot to a good Gears2 screenshot which makes you just as bad as the OP.

swazidoughman

The QAA may contribute to lower detail, but it's obvious there are detail maps missing on the PS3 version. I post in-game shots. If you think one looks better that's on you. Stop trying so hard. The 360 version is obviously better. Better AA, textures, shadows, and shaders.

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#149 swazidoughman
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[QUOTE="swazidoughman"]

Like I said before, the blur caused by Quincunx results in the illusion lower detail.

And what seems like better normal/bump map detail is probably caused by the gamma/contrast of the 360 version.

ALSO! In the same post you compared a crappy KZ2 screenshot to a good Gears2 screenshot which makes you just as bad as the OP.

gamecubepad

The QAA may contribute to lower detail, but it's obvious there are detail maps missing on the PS3 version. I post in-game shots. If you think one looks better that's on you. Stop trying so hard. The 360 is obviously better. Better AA, textures, shadows, and shaders.

Textures are completely equal.

Higher contrast is likely what brings out the extra "detail".

Better AA in this case is subjective since most of the time it's 2x which doesn't remove as many jaggies as QAA.

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#150 MegajerkNYC
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Lol there is no difference. Even with those pictures blown up and in your face you cant see the difference.

A real difference is how much glaringly better Uncharted looks then Gears 2

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3536/3233041975_5ca22a2dbe_o.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3525/3256710351_354f1cd952_o.jpg