What a lot of PC gamers do not understand

Fanboys from all factions do what you said. This isn't fanboy wars

Also you called it a blog yourself and then posted it in SW anyway :? 

EDIT: uh-oh, HE'S here already

[QUOTE="lostrib"]

[QUOTE="IgGy621985"]

I was actually defending the PC platform, but you guys are just jolly good. 

Btw congrats on your 5555th post.

IgGy621985

Thank you,

only problem was that parts of your post weren't correct as pointed out above

I'll paraphrase it.

Epic didn't make a single PC exclusive title since their collaboration with Microsoft.

Ensemble didn't make a single PC exclusive title since Halo Wars.

Lionhead didn't make a single PC exclusive title since The Movies.

All of them under contract by a console maker.

I mean really....

When the only argument for abandonment is that a dev became first party with a console maker, or was under contract to make games, then the argument is incredibly weak. That's not "abandonment". No publisher is leaving the PC completely in favor of making strictly console games. In fact, quite the opposite because most devs realize it's just not feasible to make a big-budget Xbox, or PS3 exclusive.

As it stands the PC still gets 10x  more games than all the consoles do (most likely an understatement because so many games do come out), and it still gets exclusives from companies like EA, Ubisoft, 2k, Activision/Blizzard, Sega, etc etc. Neither the 360, or PS3 can say that.

Wana first get this out of the way, this is not to attack PC gamers in anyway as i do appreciate seeing high end visuals and the forward leap PC gaming has, also its a very good alternative to consoles. However something i have noticed on system wars is a pile of some PC gamers act as if everyone should become PC gamers or they should go to hell or something, it is almost worrysome that some PC want consoles to die off and everyone should start gaming on PC or something.

To the main point, if you observe the trend of the gaming industry since the 1980s, you would observe a system in the gaming industry where core game design has shifted from PC to consoles, even till date the trend is continued to an extent where developers that are considered strictly PC centric are now joining the consoles development stream. So if PC gaming was so great, why are developers defecting. The first major thing is the userbase of consoles still outweigh PC gamer userbase and consoles provide a more lucrative business model for publishers.

In summary, no matter how much high end visual gizmo you purchase, if developers dont consider your hardware the average or common denominator, the investment is just for a little extra shinny bits and at the moment developers are more focused on consoles than PCs. The core base of most games has been and still is designed with consoles first in mind, then PC second with the little extra shinnies, so before you call me a troll or go all immature about this, think for second, am i trolling or just saying the cold truth. As far as developers still see consoles as the first customers to serve, your hardware upgrades would remain under utilized so if anything at all, be pleased with next gen consoles cause thats actually when developers would wana upgrade core game designs because the common denominator has moved a step up.

Inb4Blogit

If you're aware you're posting a blog, why not post it in the appropriate space, instead of forums? :?

Fascinating, especially considering the fact that PC is the forefather of gaming going all the way back.

Blogit

megaspiderweb09

a pile of some PC gamers act as if everyone should become PC gamers or they should go to hell or something

megaspiderweb09

Every fanboy does the same, no matter the system preference.

[QUOTE="megaspiderweb09"]

Blogit

lundy86_4

Oh this thread again...be original and make it a blog

[QUOTE="megaspiderweb09"]

a pile of some PC gamers act as if everyone should become PC gamers or they should go to hell or something

IgGy621985

Every fanboy does the same, no matter the system preference.

Thats why i was careful, so as not to seem as if i am saying all think that way, obviously we also have the PS3, Xbox360 ones too

[QUOTE="IgGy621985"]

[QUOTE="megaspiderweb09"]

a pile of some PC gamers act as if everyone should become PC gamers or they should go to hell or something

megaspiderweb09

Every fanboy does the same, no matter the system preference.

Thats why i was careful, so as not to seem as if i am saying all think that way, obviously we also have the PS3, Xbox360 ones too

I actually believe dude made a good point, and you guys don't have to be such arses and shod him off to blog it.

But everyone knows that because everyone does the same thing. I mean, look what Cows did when they got teh GDDR5.

Fascinating, especially considering the fact that PC is the forefather of gaming going all the way back.

outworld222

Yea it deff is, actually i started with games on PC, prince of persia (the oldest one) but consoles just provided a platform where developers could not ignore or work around

[QUOTE="megaspiderweb09"]

[QUOTE="IgGy621985"]

Every fanboy does the same, no matter the system preference.

clyde46

Thats why i was careful, so as not to seem as if i am saying all think that way, obviously we also have the PS3, Xbox360 ones too

That is because after 3yrs of observing things on Gamespot forums, i noticed any topic that is related to visuals tend to stimulate a plethorea of PC gamers and it becomes a nerd fest of computer jargon langauge about how consoles suck and PC gaming is the way forward. I do agree in a perfect world PC gaming is the way forward due to the rate of change that occurs, but the problem is PC does not offer a unified delivery system, PC gamers have to deal with different developers and methods e.g. Blizzard with Diablo, Nvidia vs AMD (TressFX) among other things that makes it feel as if PC gamers are caught in a crossfire of publisher competition. I guess one can say its why Steam became popular because it is trying to offer that unified system that sets a standard for all games (which is what consoles have had for decades). Anywayz enuff of my rant, you prob think im stupid or sumtin

It's not recruitment. Quite the opposite; they've made it quite clear that they don't want "other" on their platform.lowe0

Can you explain a bit more, sounds a bit confusing

It's system wars.

The concept is to boast your system over others. All factions do this. It is the WHOLE point.

Either leave, or quit your crying please.

[QUOTE="lowe0"]It's not recruitment. Quite the opposite; they've made it quite clear that they don't want "other" on their platform.megaspiderweb09

Can you explain a bit more, sounds a bit confusing

So much mis-information.

I actually believe dude made a good point, and you guys don't have to be such arses and shod him off to blog it.

But everyone knows that because everyone does the same thing. I mean, look what Cows did when they got teh GDDR5.

IgGy621985

Not really, I honestly can't think of any developers who abandoned the PC, also, with the rise of development costs, it's obvious every third-party dev will try to expand on as much systems as possible and go multiplat. That applies to both console-centric and PC-centric developers...

Also, one of the biggest feature of console gaming this gen, the accessible and mainstream on-line gaming came right from the PC. Lastly, I feel there's definitely enough difference between console and PC game versions to render wording like "little extra shinnies" inaccurate. On consoles, it's possible to make a highly complex game with lots of features to run... but the problem is to make it look and perform well, and that's where the PC comes in. For example, I find open world games on consoles very watered down, which is why I regret not being able to give RDR a proper PC treatment. A great game, but shortcomings of console hardware did put a damper on my experience.

PC RULES, CONSOLES DROOL

[QUOTE="clyde46"][QUOTE="megaspiderweb09"]

Thats why i was careful, so as not to seem as if i am saying all think that way, obviously we also have the PS3, Xbox360 ones too

megaspiderweb09

That is because after 3yrs of observing things on Gamespot forums, i noticed any topic that is related to visuals tend to stimulate a plethorea of PC gamers and it becomes a nerd fest of computer jargon langauge about how consoles suck and PC gaming is the way forward. I do agree in a perfect world PC gaming is the way forward due to the rate of change that occurs, but the problem is PC does not offer a unified delivery system, PC gamers have to deal with different developers and methods e.g. Blizzard with Diablo, Nvidia vs AMD (TressFX) among other things that makes it feel as if PC gamers are caught in a crossfire of publisher competition. I guess one can say its why Steam became popular because it is trying to offer that unified system that sets a standard for all games (which is what consoles have had for decades). Anywayz enuff of my rant, you prob think im stupid or sumtin

[QUOTE="megaspiderweb09"]

[QUOTE="lowe0"]It's not recruitment. Quite the opposite; they've made it quite clear that they don't want "other" on their platform.lowe0

Can you explain a bit more, sounds a bit confusing

OOohh now i get it :lol:

I honestly can't think of any developers who abandoned the PC

Rocker6

Really?

Epic? Ensemble? Lionhead?

Epic didn't make a single PC title since their collaboration with Microsoft, except UT3 and Gears 1 port.

Ensemble made a console (360) exclusive, Halo Wars and closed the doors for good.

Lionhead didn't make a single PC title since The Movies.

outworld222

[QUOTE="clyde46"][QUOTE="megaspiderweb09"]

Thats why i was careful, so as not to seem as if i am saying all think that way, obviously we also have the PS3, Xbox360 ones too

megaspiderweb09

That is because after 3yrs of observing things on Gamespot forums, i noticed any topic that is related to visuals tend to stimulate a plethorea of PC gamers and it becomes a nerd fest of computer jargon langauge about how consoles suck and PC gaming is the way forward. I do agree in a perfect world PC gaming is the way forward due to the rate of change that occurs, but the problem is PC does not offer a unified delivery system, PC gamers have to deal with different developers and methods e.g. Blizzard with Diablo, Nvidia vs AMD (TressFX) among other things that makes it feel as if PC gamers are caught in a crossfire of publisher competition. I guess one can say its why Steam became popular because it is trying to offer that unified system that sets a standard for all games (which is what consoles have had for decades). Anywayz enuff of my rant, you prob think im stupid or sumtin

Competition is good, and open nature is one of the best traits of the PC platform...

TressFX and PhysX are minor gimmicks, and such examples exist on consoles as well, like some games getting minor Kinect features on the 360 (Skyrim, Dead Space 3, Mass Effect 3), or a minor Move feature on the PS3.

Blog it.clyde46

[QUOTE="Rocker6"]

I honestly can't think of any developers who abandoned the PC

IgGy621985

Really?

Epic? Ensemble? Lionhead?

Epic didn't make a single PC title since their collaboration with Microsoft, except UT3 and Gears 1 port.

Fortnite, you idiot.

You can barely think of any devs, and the one that anyone cares about you did post was wrong.

Don't try to hate on pc, you end up owned.

[QUOTE="Rocker6"]

I honestly can't think of any developers who abandoned the PC

IgGy621985

Really?

Epic? Ensemble? Lionhead?

Epic didn't make a single PC title since their collaboration with Microsoft, except UT3 and Gears 1 port.

Ensemble made a console (360) exclusive, Halo Wars and closed the doors for good.

Lionhead didn't make a single PC title since The Movies.

Epic is making Fortnite right now, only two of their games skipped the PC. Can't judge Ensemble on a single game not availible on the PC, when they made far more PC exclusives, or PC orriented games.

As for Lionhead, Fable 1 and 3 are both availible on the PC, only Fable 2 isn't. As such, I see none of those developers truly abandoned the PC platform.

[QUOTE="Rocker6"]

I honestly can't think of any developers who abandoned the PC

IgGy621985

Really?

Epic? Ensemble? Lionhead?

Epic didn't make a single PC title since their collaboration with Microsoft, except UT3 and Gears 1 port.

Ensemble made a console (360) exclusive, Halo Wars and closed the doors for good.

Lionhead didn't make a single PC title since The Movies.

[QUOTE="IgGy621985"]

[QUOTE="Rocker6"]

I honestly can't think of any developers who abandoned the PC

Jankarcop

Really?

Epic? Ensemble? Lionhead?

Epic didn't make a single PC title since their collaboration with Microsoft, except UT3 and Gears 1 port.

Fortnite, you idiot.

You can barely think of any devs, and the one that anyone cares about you did post was wrong.

Don't try to hate on pc, you end up owned.

What the hell is with people here and offending on a personal level?

I AM a PC gamer for f*ck sake, take a look at my sig. I was pointing out what was happening during the current/past gen console cycle.

Wana first get this out of the way, this is not to attack PC gamers in anyway as i do appreciate seeing high end visuals and the forward leap PC gaming has, also its a very good alternative to consoles. However something i have noticed on system wars is a pile of some PC gamers act as if everyone should become PC gamers or they should go to hell or something, it is almost worrysome that some PC want consoles to die off and everyone should start gaming on PC or something.

To the main point, if you observe the trend of the gaming industry since the 1980s, you would observe a system in the gaming industry where core game design has shifted from PC to consoles, even till date the trend is continued to an extent where developers that are considered strictly PC centric are now joining the consoles development stream. So if PC gaming was so great, why are developers defecting. The first major thing is the userbase of consoles still outweigh PC gamer userbase and consoles provide a more lucrative business model for publishers.

In summary, no matter how much high end visual gizmo you purchase, if developers dont consider your hardware the average or common denominator, the investment is just for a little extra shinny bits and at the moment developers are more focused on consoles than PCs. The core base of most games has been and still is designed with consoles first in mind, then PC second with the little extra shinnies, so before you call me a troll or go all immature about this, think for second, am i trolling or just saying the cold truth. As far as developers still see consoles as the first customers to serve, your hardware upgrades would remain under utilized so if anything at all, be pleased with next gen consoles cause thats actually when developers would wana upgrade core game designs because the common denominator has moved a step up.

Inb4Blogit

megaspiderweb09

Youre wasting your time and effort I am afraid.

[QUOTE="Jankarcop"]

[QUOTE="IgGy621985"]

Really?

Epic? Ensemble? Lionhead?

Epic didn't make a single PC title since their collaboration with Microsoft, except UT3 and Gears 1 port.

 

IgGy621985

Fortnite, you idiot.

You can barely think of any devs, and the one that anyone cares about you did post was wrong.

Don't try to hate on pc, you end up owned.

What the hell is with people here and offending on a personal level?

I AM a PC gamer for f*ck sake, take a look at my sig. I was pointing out what was happening during the current/past gen console cycle.

that doesn't mean you're not an idiot

[QUOTE="IgGy621985"]

[QUOTE="Jankarcop"]

 

Fortnite, you idiot.

 

You can barely think of any devs, and the one that anyone cares about you did post was wrong.

 

Don't try to hate on pc, you end up owned.

lostrib

What the hell is with people here and offending on a personal level?

I AM a PC gamer for f*ck sake, take a look at my sig. I was pointing out what was happening during the current/past gen console cycle.

that doesn't mean you're not an idiot

I was actually defending the PC platform, but you guys are just jolly good. 

Btw congrats on your 5555th post.

We don't want console gamers. With console gamers comes hyper-casuals whose games must be watered down and flashy enough to impress the peasantry.

As a PC gamer I'm perfectly fine with my superior platform for a greater breed of player. I'll have fun with the best version of every multiplat, better exclusives and almost the entire indie scene.

Hint: PC gaming isn't better because of the graphics.

you have Kevin Smith in your avatar , there is nothing worse. 

[QUOTE="lostrib"]

[QUOTE="IgGy621985"]

What the hell is with people here and offending on a personal level?

I AM a PC gamer for f*ck sake, take a look at my sig. I was pointing out what was happening during the current/past gen console cycle.

IgGy621985

that doesn't mean you're not an idiot

I was actually defending the PC platform, but you guys are just jolly good. 

Btw congrats on your 5555th post.

Thank you,

only problem was that parts of your post weren't correct as pointed out above

We don't want console gamers. With console gamers comes hyper-casuals whose games must be watered down and flashy enough to impress the peasantry.

As a PC gamer I'm perfectly fine with my superior platform for a greater breed of player. I'll have fun with the best version of every multiplat, better exclusives and almost the entire indie scene.

Hint: PC gaming isn't better because of the graphics.

Big_Red_Button

^look at that e-peen. It's so hardcore.

We don't want console gamers. With console gamers comes hyper-casuals whose games must be watered down and flashy enough to impress the peasantry.

As a PC gamer I'm perfectly fine with my superior platform for a greater breed of player. I'll have fun with the best version of every multiplat, better exclusives and almost the entire indie scene.

Hint: PC gaming isn't better because of the graphics.

Big_Red_Button

Thought I told you to fvck back to 4ch@n

[QUOTE="Big_Red_Button"]

We don't want console gamers. With console gamers comes hyper-casuals whose games must be watered down and flashy enough to impress the peasantry.

As a PC gamer I'm perfectly fine with my superior platform for a greater breed of player. I'll have fun with the best version of every multiplat, better exclusives and almost the entire indie scene.

Hint: PC gaming isn't better because of the graphics.

lostrib

^look at that e-peen. It's so hardcore.

I'm flattered, you're following me through every thread telling me how great you think I am ^____^

It's okay though, I get the message, if you want to shower me with accolaides go right ahead.

[QUOTE="Big_Red_Button"]

We don't want console gamers. With console gamers comes hyper-casuals whose games must be watered down and flashy enough to impress the peasantry.

As a PC gamer I'm perfectly fine with my superior platform for a greater breed of player. I'll have fun with the best version of every multiplat, better exclusives and almost the entire indie scene.

Hint: PC gaming isn't better because of the graphics.

seanmcloughlin

Thought I told you to fvck back to 4ch@n

I have a tabbed browser, I can do both. Isn't every browser tabbed nowadays?

Fascinating, especially considering the fact that PC is the forefather of gaming going all the way back.

outworld222

And for the record, the Arcade was the forefather of gaming.

[QUOTE="lostrib"]

[QUOTE="Big_Red_Button"]

We don't want console gamers. With console gamers comes hyper-casuals whose games must be watered down and flashy enough to impress the peasantry.

As a PC gamer I'm perfectly fine with my superior platform for a greater breed of player. I'll have fun with the best version of every multiplat, better exclusives and almost the entire indie scene.

Hint: PC gaming isn't better because of the graphics.

Big_Red_Button

^look at that e-peen. It's so hardcore.

I'm flattered, you're following me through every thread telling me how great you think I am ^____^

It's okay though, I get the message, if you want to shower me with accolaides go right ahead.

I think I posted in both threads before you...so it seems you're following me.  It makes me uncomfortable, please stop

[QUOTE="IgGy621985"]

[QUOTE="lostrib"]

that doesn't mean you're not an idiot

lostrib

I was actually defending the PC platform, but you guys are just jolly good. 

Btw congrats on your 5555th post.

Thank you,

only problem was that parts of your post weren't correct as pointed out above

I'll paraphrase it.

Epic didn't make a single PC exclusive title since their collaboration with Microsoft.

Ensemble didn't make a single PC exclusive title since Halo Wars.

Lionhead didn't make a single PC exclusive title since The Movies.

[QUOTE="lostrib"]

[QUOTE="IgGy621985"]

I was actually defending the PC platform, but you guys are just jolly good. 

Btw congrats on your 5555th post.

IgGy621985

Thank you,

only problem was that parts of your post weren't correct as pointed out above

I'll paraphrase it.

Epic didn't make a single PC exclusive title since their collaboration with Microsoft.

Ensemble didn't make a single PC exclusive title since Halo Wars.

Lionhead didn't make a single PC exclusive title since The Movies.

If a developer doesn't make PC exclusive titles anymore for whatever reason, they hardly abandoned the platform. If someone specifically stated PC platform is not viable to develop for and none of their games came out on it ever since, that'd be abandoning the platform...

As I previously said, no one comes to mind.

Why Everyone should ditch consoles all together and ALL games be on one type of system. 

• everyone would have a chance play every game without owning every system 
• cheaper games on PC
• devs wouldn't have to make 3-4 ports and just focus on one and make it much better
• devs/publishers wouldn't have to give part of their money console makers for doing NOTHING!
• not restricted what you can or can't do on console
• mods
• no waiting 2 weeks for a update by the devs to get uploaded on the console
• no dev paying $10,000 to freaking update their game to make it better for the consumer 
• no restrictions on devs how they build their games to meet guidelines 
• everyone pretty much owns a computer that cost $350-500 My well toss the $400ish you would spent on console into the PC to get better experience 

I didn't read the TC but it doesn't matter what you think or how you feel.  I'm happy with my rig it does great things and will do great things in the future.  I'm next gen ready NOW.  Are you?  In the end I'll have a PC and a next gen console so I will be the winner.  I work hard so that I can play hard. And my hardware is worth every penny.

Yeah I never of heard of "PC gaming is dead" topic... nop, never.