So much lem tears in this thread as expected. :lol: I'd be crying too if I was renting the online portions of my games.I_can_hazYou are just as bad as lems......so why point fingers?
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Why would someone be ashurt that you are wasting your money? People are laughing AT you not with you.[QUOTE="FragTycoon"]
[QUOTE="RR360DD"]
Value is the services ability to satisfy ones needs or requirements.
Its seems cows are still getting asshurt at the fact I use something on XBL than the PS3 is incapable of offering as well.
Sonys issue, not mine.
RR360DD
I was hoping you'd tell me. So why are you asshurt? Why is it cows complain about XBL fees more than lems? Does that make sense to you?
All this asshurt is confusing if I'm honest.
Unless cows fear Sony will follow suit lol
Its simple logic and math that PSN+ is better. Your butthurt. Sorry.Why would someone be ashurt that you are wasting your money? People are laughing AT you not with you.[QUOTE="FragTycoon"]
[QUOTE="RR360DD"]
Value is the services ability to satisfy ones needs or requirements.
Its seems cows are still getting asshurt at the fact I use something on XBL than the PS3 is incapable of offering as well.
Sonys issue, not mine.
RR360DD
I was hoping you'd tell me. So why are you asshurt? Why is it cows complain about XBL fees more than lems? Does that make sense to you?
All this asshurt is confusing if I'm honest.
Unless cows fear Sony will follow suit lol
Because we actually care about gaming!!!Even if you lemmings don't, we want you guys to know it's a terrible practice for "gaming" in general to have something like this in place.
We also care about other gamers (you included) because as much as some of you MS corporate defenders like to spam "cows" to defend MS, most sony fans are actually just gamers who defend things good for games, gamers and the companies who do things good for gaming.
We "gamers" care about how MS treats other gamers (ourselves included) with things like this that are not good.
Maybe so but if there is enough people online that I can find a match in less than a minute or so then the difference doesn't mean much to me. It's when I am stuck at the matchmaking screen then the population of the community becomes an issue. and there's the problem with gamespot. u can not compare online services when there is literally only a third of the ppl online on most of the biggest games compared to xbl. if xbl was free that number would be tripled or quadrupled and that doesnt even account for the split screeners on certain games.[QUOTE="AD216"] its a drastic difference in the major games though in all honesty. in my experience this gen it seems like psn has only a third of the ppl that live has when it comes down to major releases such as any ea game, any 2k game or any shooter.DivineSword
[QUOTE="RR360DD"]
[QUOTE="FragTycoon"] Why would someone be ashurt that you are wasting your money? People are laughing AT you not with you.
casharmy
I was hoping you'd tell me. So why are you asshurt? Why is it cows complain about XBL fees more than lems? Does that make sense to you?
All this asshurt is confusing if I'm honest.
Unless cows fear Sony will follow suit lol
Because we actually care about gaming!!!Even if you lemmings don't, we want you guys to know it's a terrible practice for "gaming" in general to have something like this in place.
We also care about other gamers (you included) because as much as some of you MS corporate defenders like to spam "cows" to defend MS, most sony fans are actually just gamers who defend things good for games, gamers and the companies who do things good for gaming.
We "gamers" care about how MS treats other gamers (ourselves included) with things like this that are not good.
they (sony) had a press conference about ps4 months ago yet we still dnt know anything about it. cows talk about the kinect coming standard with the next box but the ps eye comes standard with the ps4. cows are hypocrites with no legitimacy to them as (real) gamers at all. remember how cows bashed the wii controller? (PS move) or how achievements were irrelevant? (PS Trophy) these are just a few examples man. i have no problem with sony as a company but cows are the biggest sanctimonious hypocrites walking the damn planet.[QUOTE="stayhigh1"]PSN works just like XBL..I dont see any difference at all..Well you cant assume they are the same just because YOU dont see a difference. They are built totally different so even their basic functions are done in different ways. Sure, ultimately you play games online, but the speed, connectivity, netcode, servers, service, etc...........are what make online services.........a service. PSN is build on archaic design which is what held it back this gen. It was like XBL of last gen, which held Sony (and PS3) back from doing what live does.........at the speed at which it does it. PS4 fixes that. I can go online and jump into a game right away with PSN..Sure XBL have more players but does it even matter? I have no problem finding people to play with at all.. Dont xbox uses P2P just like the PSN does for majority of the game? Xbox Live do not give better speed and higher connection just because you pay for it....I rather have free games and online services.. Until i see a BIG difference in XBL its not justifiable..[QUOTE="RR360DD"]
Value is the services ability to satisfy ones needs or requirements.
Its seems cows are still getting asshurt at the fact I use something on XBL than the PS3 is incapable of offering as well.
Sonys issue, not mine.
navyguy21
Sure it is. You get discounts and you get to play "free" games as long as you keep paying. The moment you stop, the so called "free" games you don't get to play anymore. I'd call that a rental service[QUOTE="kingtito"][QUOTE="Obviously_Right"]
Too bad PS+ isn't a game rental service.
Vatusus
Its still better than pay to play online
Well that's would be your opinion. I pay for neither so I'm not biased one way or the other. I just think value is based on ones opinion and not a fact cows keep trying to shove down lems throats.[QUOTE="kingtito"][QUOTE="Obviously_Right"]Sure it is. You get discounts and you get to play "free" games as long as you keep paying. The moment you stop, the so called "free" games you don't get to play anymore. I'd call that a rental service And when you stop paying for live............you no longer have access to live or your apps.....................So its the same thing. So am i renting multiplayer? Not my point. I haven't said anything about LIVE being rental service or not. I said value is subjective and one person can't say PS+ has more value without stating his/hers opinion. Like I said, I don't pay for LIVE or for PN+. I find neither has any value to me personally. I'm not trying to sit here and assert my opinion as fact like some people on here are doing.Too bad PS+ isn't a game rental service.
navyguy21
Why would someone be ashurt that you are wasting your money? People are laughing AT you not with you.[QUOTE="FragTycoon"]
[QUOTE="RR360DD"]
Value is the services ability to satisfy ones needs or requirements.
Its seems cows are still getting asshurt at the fact I use something on XBL than the PS3 is incapable of offering as well.
Sonys issue, not mine.
RR360DD
I was hoping you'd tell me. So why are you asshurt? Why is it cows complain about XBL fees more than lems? Does that make sense to you?
All this asshurt is confusing if I'm honest.
Unless cows fear Sony will follow suit lol
Actually, I just wonder why someone would pay the money for features that are free elsewhere. You are basically telling MS that it's ok to nickle and dime you to death. This leads to charging for other dumb crap in the future. Just like they did when they added a few apps, then raised the price $10.[QUOTE="NeutrallySkewed"][QUOTE="ShoulderOfOrion"]soooo much irrelevant crap on that listShoulderOfOrionI beg to differ. There are a lot of quality games there. Sleeping Dogs, RE:5, Just Cause 2, Infamous 2, LBP 2, Megaman 9 + 10, Saints Rows 2, Demon's Souls... and more. yeah sure but there's also a ton of stuff like Zombie Tycoon 2: Brainhov's Revenge Knytt Undergroud Sideway: New York Labyrinth Legends Chronovolt Zombie Apocalypse: Never Die Alone Foosball 2012 Never even heard of half of them lol.
So a bunch of free games is a bad thing because not all of them are stellar, even though some are?
yeah sure but there's also a ton of stuff like Zombie Tycoon 2: Brainhov's Revenge Knytt Undergroud Sideway: New York Labyrinth Legends Chronovolt Zombie Apocalypse: Never Die Alone Foosball 2012 Never even heard of half of them lol.[QUOTE="ShoulderOfOrion"][QUOTE="NeutrallySkewed"] I beg to differ. There are a lot of quality games there. Sleeping Dogs, RE:5, Just Cause 2, Infamous 2, LBP 2, Megaman 9 + 10, Saints Rows 2, Demon's Souls... and more.the_bi99man
So a bunch of free games is a bad thing because not all of them are stellar, even though some are?
free games? don't you have to pay to get psn plus?[QUOTE="casharmy"]Because we actually care about gaming!!![QUOTE="RR360DD"]
I was hoping you'd tell me. So why are you asshurt? Why is it cows complain about XBL fees more than lems? Does that make sense to you?
All this asshurt is confusing if I'm honest.
Unless cows fear Sony will follow suit lol
AD216
Even if you lemmings don't, we want you guys to know it's a terrible practice for "gaming" in general to have something like this in place.
We also care about other gamers (you included) because as much as some of you MS corporate defenders like to spam "cows" to defend MS, most sony fans are actually just gamers who defend things good for games, gamers and the companies who do things good for gaming.
We "gamers" care about how MS treats other gamers (ourselves included) with things like this that are not good.
they (sony) had a press conference about ps4 months ago yet we still dnt know anything about it. cows talk about the kinect coming standard with the next box but the ps eye comes standard with the ps4. cows are hypocrites with no legitimacy to them as (real) gamers at all. remember how cows bashed the wii controller? (PS move) or how achievements were irrelevant? (PS Trophy) these are just a few examples man. i have no problem with sony as a company but cows are the biggest sanctimonious hypocrites walking the damn planet. Lems are just as bad as cows, my friend. I won't get into the laundry list of flip flops the lems have made (I have seen it all seeing as how I used to post here under Mortal_Decay a while back, when I was a lem - which I now own all 4 current consoles, and am happier because of it.) Fanboys are bad either way you look at it. One is no worse than the other.[QUOTE="navyguy21"][QUOTE="stayhigh1"] PSN works just like XBL..I dont see any difference at all..stayhigh1Well you cant assume they are the same just because YOU dont see a difference. They are built totally different so even their basic functions are done in different ways. Sure, ultimately you play games online, but the speed, connectivity, netcode, servers, service, etc...........are what make online services.........a service. PSN is build on archaic design which is what held it back this gen. It was like XBL of last gen, which held Sony (and PS3) back from doing what live does.........at the speed at which it does it. PS4 fixes that. I can go online and jump into a game right away with PSN..Sure XBL have more players but does it even matter? I have no problem finding people to play with at all.. Dont xbox uses P2P just like the PSN does for majority of the game? Xbox Live do not give better speed and higher connection just because you pay for it....I rather have free games and online services.. Until i see a BIG difference in XBL its not justifiable.. You lost the point of everything i said......
I don't understand how anyone could complain about PS+. Look at all the games you get to play and all the discounts you get and look at what you get for buying a year worth of XBL.
I have a 360 and a Vita and I'm definitely getting PS+ when I get a PS4. I can't believe I need to have XBL Gold just to **** use my Netflix.
Not knocking the rental service when I say... that's a pretty good rental service...Plus+ undoubtedly has a good idea, and with some solid touch ups, it could actually be a service worth subscribing to next gen. That's assuming it adds complimentary services of multimedia, and xbox features like party chat etc -which chat is apparently a go..apparently - As of now, I just don't see it as such(although I've been close with temptation), but take a few more tips from steam and it'll peak my interest.
Everyone knows that's your opinion.[QUOTE="kingtito"][QUOTE="Blake135"]
Everyone Knows Xboxlive is a joke compared to PS+ these days.
Blake135
And Many others, if you wanna defend XboxLive I would Love to hear YOUR opinion.
Guess you haven't really been reading this thread. I'm not defending either PS+ or LIVE. What I've been saying is VALUE is based on ones OPINION. It's in now way shape or form a fact. You think PSN+ is better that's good for you. You will find lots of others that say LIVE is better and has more value. Doesn't make them right just like YOUR opinion doesn't make you right. Why is that so hard for cows to understand?[QUOTE="Blake135"]NA PS+ says hai. It's not worth it half the time. I'm not about to argue though, as I have plus and a gold. I've had plus for 2 years and gold for 4.Everyone Knows Xboxlive is a joke compared to PS+ these days.
2ndWonder
Well I have EU+ so fair enough if people wanna argue that NA+ is not worth it :P
[QUOTE="AD216"][QUOTE="casharmy"]Because we actually care about gaming!!!they (sony) had a press conference about ps4 months ago yet we still dnt know anything about it. cows talk about the kinect coming standard with the next box but the ps eye comes standard with the ps4. cows are hypocrites with no legitimacy to them as (real) gamers at all. remember how cows bashed the wii controller? (PS move) or how achievements were irrelevant? (PS Trophy) these are just a few examples man. i have no problem with sony as a company but cows are the biggest sanctimonious hypocrites walking the damn planet. Lems are just as bad as cows, my friend. I won't get into the laundry list of flip flops the lems have made (I have seen it all seeing as how I used to post here under Mortal_Decay a while back, when I was a lem - which I now own all 4 current consoles, and am happier because of it.) Fanboys are bad either way you look at it. One is no worse than the other. i agree with the point that fanboy-ism should be abolished but for the most part outside a few of the ppl on here, the lems are no where near as bad. these cows act like MS broke their hearts or something the way they attack every xbox post and the way they acknowledge even the weakest most asinine xbox rumors. u dnt see that from any other group of fanboys on here.Even if you lemmings don't, we want you guys to know it's a terrible practice for "gaming" in general to have something like this in place.
We also care about other gamers (you included) because as much as some of you MS corporate defenders like to spam "cows" to defend MS, most sony fans are actually just gamers who defend things good for games, gamers and the companies who do things good for gaming.
We "gamers" care about how MS treats other gamers (ourselves included) with things like this that are not good.
MortalDecayX
[QUOTE="Blake135"][QUOTE="kingtito"] Everyone knows that's your opinion. kingtito
And Many others, if you wanna defend XboxLive I would Love to hear YOUR opinion.
Guess you haven't really been reading this thread. I'm not defending either PS+ or LIVE. What I've been saying is VALUE is based on ones OPINION. It's in now way shape or form a fact. You think PSN+ is better that's good for you. You will find lots of others that say LIVE is better and has more value. Doesn't make them right just like YOUR opinion doesn't make you right. Why is that so hard for cows to understand? Lol funny how after spending the whole gen defending that live was better than psn as a fact lems act as if they're the sensible ones calling for a consensus on the subjectivity of the preference. Fvck off anyone with a brain knows PS+ is a better value than a rip off like gold.[QUOTE="RR360DD"][QUOTE="FragTycoon"] Why would someone be ashurt that you are wasting your money? People are laughing AT you not with you.
MortalDecayX
I was hoping you'd tell me. So why are you asshurt? Why is it cows complain about XBL fees more than lems? Does that make sense to you?
All this asshurt is confusing if I'm honest.
Unless cows fear Sony will follow suit lol
Actually, I just wonder why someone would pay the money for features that are free elsewhere. You are basically telling MS that it's ok to nickle and dime you to death. This leads to charging for other dumb crap in the future. Just like they did when they added a few apps, then raised the price $10.Because they're not free elsewhere? Seriously, have you read anything I've written? Ive already said why I pay for XBL : Because I use features on it that PSN does not offer. Hopefully thats easier to understand.
Maybe some people are willing to play online without those features and avoid paying for online, which is completely fair. In my situation, £26 a year is pennies and I find it totally worth it as I play online games far more than anything else, and features such as private chat ehance that experience greatly.
You'd think people would respect my decision, but I guess not.
Maybe if Sony had built a comparable service, I'd go with PSN. But right now, thats not an option for me.
Guess you haven't really been reading this thread. I'm not defending either PS+ or LIVE. What I've been saying is VALUE is based on ones OPINION. It's in now way shape or form a fact. You think PSN+ is better that's good for you. You will find lots of others that say LIVE is better and has more value. Doesn't make them right just like YOUR opinion doesn't make you right. Why is that so hard for cows to understand? Lol funny how after spending the whole gen defending that live was better than psn as a fact lems act as if they're the sensible ones calling for a consensus on the subjectivity of the preference. Fvck off anyone with a brain knows PS+ is a better value than a rip off like gold.XBL has been better than PSN the entire gen. Lets not forget the state PSN was in pre-2009. PSN+ didn't exist until 2011. PSN has been catching up, but theres still some features in there that are missing. Of course if you don't care about those features, then obviously PSN is the wise choice since its free.[QUOTE="kingtito"][QUOTE="Blake135"]
And Many others, if you wanna defend XboxLive I would Love to hear YOUR opinion.
kuraimen
[QUOTE="kuraimen"]Lol funny how after spending the whole gen defending that live was better than psn as a fact lems act as if they're the sensible ones calling for a consensus on the subjectivity of the preference. Fvck off anyone with a brain knows PS+ is a better value than a rip off like gold.XBL has been better than PSN the entire gen. Lets not forget the state PSN was in pre-2009. PSN+ didn't exist until 2011. PSN has been catching up, but theres still some features in there that are missing. Of course if you don't care about those features, then obviously PSN is the wise choice since its free. Lol typical hypocrite Lem. So the subjectivity crap only applies when PS+ came into the scene. Again anyone with a working brain knows PS+ destroys live gold no matter how you try to convince yourself otherwise by denial.[QUOTE="kingtito"] Guess you haven't really been reading this thread. I'm not defending either PS+ or LIVE. What I've been saying is VALUE is based on ones OPINION. It's in now way shape or form a fact. You think PSN+ is better that's good for you. You will find lots of others that say LIVE is better and has more value. Doesn't make them right just like YOUR opinion doesn't make you right. Why is that so hard for cows to understand? RR360DD
[QUOTE="RR360DD"][QUOTE="kuraimen"] Lol funny how after spending the whole gen defending that live was better than psn as a fact lems act as if they're the sensible ones calling for a consensus on the subjectivity of the preference. Fvck off anyone with a brain knows PS+ is a better value than a rip off like gold.XBL has been better than PSN the entire gen. Lets not forget the state PSN was in pre-2009. PSN+ didn't exist until 2011. PSN has been catching up, but theres still some features in there that are missing. Of course if you don't care about those features, then obviously PSN is the wise choice since its free. Lol typical hypocrite Lem. So the subjectivity crap only applies when PS+ came into the scene. Again anyone with a working brain knows PS+ destroys live gold no matter how you try to convince yourself otherwise by denial.kuraimen
Uh no.
Value is always subjective. You could've found more value in PSN in 2006, and thats cool.
Lol typical hypocrite Lem. So the subjectivity crap only applies when PS+ came into the scene. Again anyone with a working brain knows PS+ destroys live gold no matter how you try to convince yourself otherwise by denial.[QUOTE="kuraimen"][QUOTE="RR360DD"]XBL has been better than PSN the entire gen. Lets not forget the state PSN was in pre-2009. PSN+ didn't exist until 2011. PSN has been catching up, but theres still some features in there that are missing. Of course if you don't care about those features, then obviously PSN is the wise choice since its free. RR360DD
Uh no.
Value is always subjective. You could've found more value in PSN in 2006, and thats cool.
You didn't seem to claim that above. And of course you say this now that PS is so highly superior after the whole gen you lems claimed live was better as factual. So don't bring me that.[QUOTE="RR360DD"][QUOTE="kuraimen"] Lol typical hypocrite Lem. So the subjectivity crap only applies when PS+ came into the scene. Again anyone with a working brain knows PS+ destroys live gold no matter how you try to convince yourself otherwise by denial.kuraimen
Uh no.
Value is always subjective. You could've found more value in PSN in 2006, and thats cool.
You didn't seem to claim that above. And of course you say this now that PS is so highly superior after the whole gen you lems claimed live was better as factual. So don't bring me that.And how is PSN better? And before you tell me because its free, thats a matter of value, which is opinion. Being free does not make on service better than another.
In terms of online play, XBL handles communication better than PSN. Whereas PSN+ offers you free rentals? Is that it really ...
Guess you haven't really been reading this thread. I'm not defending either PS+ or LIVE. What I've been saying is VALUE is based on ones OPINION. It's in now way shape or form a fact. You think PSN+ is better that's good for you. You will find lots of others that say LIVE is better and has more value. Doesn't make them right just like YOUR opinion doesn't make you right. Why is that so hard for cows to understand? Lol funny how after spending the whole gen defending that live was better than psn as a fact lems act as if they're the sensible ones calling for a consensus on the subjectivity of the preference. Fvck off anyone with a brain knows PS+ is a better value than a rip off like gold. Go get a PS3.[QUOTE="kingtito"][QUOTE="Blake135"]
And Many others, if you wanna defend XboxLive I would Love to hear YOUR opinion.
kuraimen
You didn't seem to claim that above. And of course you say this now that PS is so highly superior after the whole gen you lems claimed live was better as factual. So don't bring me that.[QUOTE="kuraimen"][QUOTE="RR360DD"]
Uh no.
Value is always subjective. You could've found more value in PSN in 2006, and thats cool.
RR360DD
And how is PSN better? And before you tell me because its free, thats a matter of value, which is opinion. Being free does not make on service better than another.
In terms of online play, XBL handles communication better than PSN. Whereas PSN+ offers you free rentals? Is that it really ...
You know kuraimen, he's an idiot cow that doesn't even own a PS3. He just talks out his @ss because he has nothing better to do. He's been owned in every thread he has ever posted in. Ignore the twat[QUOTE="kuraimen"]Lol funny how after spending the whole gen defending that live was better than psn as a fact lems act as if they're the sensible ones calling for a consensus on the subjectivity of the preference. Fvck off anyone with a brain knows PS+ is a better value than a rip off like gold. Go get a PS3. You get a brain first and then we can talk.[QUOTE="kingtito"] Guess you haven't really been reading this thread. I'm not defending either PS+ or LIVE. What I've been saying is VALUE is based on ones OPINION. It's in now way shape or form a fact. You think PSN+ is better that's good for you. You will find lots of others that say LIVE is better and has more value. Doesn't make them right just like YOUR opinion doesn't make you right. Why is that so hard for cows to understand? kingtito
[QUOTE="RR360DD"][QUOTE="kuraimen"] You didn't seem to claim that above. And of course you say this now that PS is so highly superior after the whole gen you lems claimed live was better as factual. So don't bring me that.kingtito
And how is PSN better? And before you tell me because its free, thats a matter of value, which is opinion. Being free does not make on service better than another.
In terms of online play, XBL handles communication better than PSN. Whereas PSN+ offers you free rentals? Is that it really ...
You know kuraimen, he's an idiot cow that doesn't even own a PS3. He just talks out his @ss because he has nothing better to do. He's been owned in every thread he has ever posted in. Ignore the twat I sense lots of butthurt Lem. Being struck by the truth hurts that much huh?You didn't seem to claim that above. And of course you say this now that PS is so highly superior after the whole gen you lems claimed live was better as factual. So don't bring me that.[QUOTE="kuraimen"][QUOTE="RR360DD"]
Uh no.
Value is always subjective. You could've found more value in PSN in 2006, and thats cool.
RR360DD
And how is PSN better? And before you tell me because its free, thats a matter of value, which is opinion. Being free does not make on service better than another.
In terms of online play, XBL handles communication better than PSN. Whereas PSN+ offers you free rentals? Is that it really ...
Lol so now you're deflecting away from your subjective part? PSN is just as good as Live functionally for playing games, p2p connections don't magically turn better just because you pay a fee those depend on the bandwidth your ISP is providing. Now being free is a huge plus since psn doesn't take your online hostage.[QUOTE="RR360DD"][QUOTE="kuraimen"] You didn't seem to claim that above. And of course you say this now that PS is so highly superior after the whole gen you lems claimed live was better as factual. So don't bring me that.kuraimen
And how is PSN better? And before you tell me because its free, thats a matter of value, which is opinion. Being free does not make on service better than another.
In terms of online play, XBL handles communication better than PSN. Whereas PSN+ offers you free rentals? Is that it really ...
Lol so now you're deflecting away from your subjective part? PSN is just as good as Live functionally for playing games, p2p connections don't magically turn better just because you pay a fee those depend on the bandwidth your ISP is providing. Now being free is a huge plus since psn doesn't take your online hostage.No I'm not. Theres nothing to argue in terms of value because it subjective :lol: seriously, I find value in XBL and you don't. Theres really nothing further to discuss about that.
But you calling PSN better leads me to believe it does things in onine gaming that XBL doesn't. Which is why I asked.
Last I checked, you can't create a party in PSN, open and switch between chat channels, send game invites, send voice messages (lol), set beacons etc etc. And even more simple stuff such as comparing achievements with friends is easier done than comparing trophies. Mainly because XBL is a unified service, therefore a lot more streamlined. The new PSN will be the same as XBL (Sony have learned), but they laid a weak foundation for PSN last gen which is why it had difficulty catching up.
Lol so now you're deflecting away from your subjective part? PSN is just as good as Live functionally for playing games, p2p connections don't magically turn better just because you pay a fee those depend on the bandwidth your ISP is providing. Now being free is a huge plus since psn doesn't take your online hostage.[QUOTE="kuraimen"][QUOTE="RR360DD"]
And how is PSN better? And before you tell me because its free, thats a matter of value, which is opinion. Being free does not make on service better than another.
In terms of online play, XBL handles communication better than PSN. Whereas PSN+ offers you free rentals? Is that it really ...
RR360DD
No I'm not. Theres nothing to argue in terms of value because it subjective :lol: seriously, I find value in XBL and you don't. Theres really nothing further to discuss about that.
But you calling PSN better leads me to believe it does things in onine gaming that XBL doesn't. Which is why I asked.
Last I checked, you can't create a party in PSN, open and switch between chat channels, send game invites, send voice messages (lol), set beacons etc etc. And even more simple stuff such as comparing achievements with friends is easier done than comparing trophies. Mainly because XBL is a unified service, therefore a lot more streamlined. The new PSN will be the same as XBL (Sony have learned), but they laid a weak foundation for PSN last gen which is why it had difficulty catching up.
Xbl had features psn doesn't have and vice versa the preference for those features is indeed subjective but the actual online play isn't. P2p network connections are the same everywhere and psn doesn't hold that hostage so that's a big plus.[QUOTE="RR360DD"][QUOTE="kuraimen"] Lol so now you're deflecting away from your subjective part? PSN is just as good as Live functionally for playing games, p2p connections don't magically turn better just because you pay a fee those depend on the bandwidth your ISP is providing. Now being free is a huge plus since psn doesn't take your online hostage.kuraimen
No I'm not. Theres nothing to argue in terms of value because it subjective :lol: seriously, I find value in XBL and you don't. Theres really nothing further to discuss about that.
But you calling PSN better leads me to believe it does things in onine gaming that XBL doesn't. Which is why I asked.
Last I checked, you can't create a party in PSN, open and switch between chat channels, send game invites, send voice messages (lol), set beacons etc etc. And even more simple stuff such as comparing achievements with friends is easier done than comparing trophies. Mainly because XBL is a unified service, therefore a lot more streamlined. The new PSN will be the same as XBL (Sony have learned), but they laid a weak foundation for PSN last gen which is why it had difficulty catching up.
Xbl had features psn doesn't have and vice versa the preference for those features is indeed subjective but the actual online play isn't. P2p network connections are the same everywhere and psn doesn't hold that hostage so that's a big plus.At the very basic level, yeah. But theres a lot that can enhance online gameplay that can't be ignored, and in terms on PSN I don't see a lot in that area. Even small things like needing to update your game before you hop online. That happens faster on XBL.
NA PS+ says hai. It's not worth it half the time. I'm not about to argue though, as I have plus and a gold. I've had plus for 2 years and gold for 4.[QUOTE="2ndWonder"][QUOTE="Blake135"]
Everyone Knows Xboxlive is a joke compared to PS+ these days.
Blake135
Well I have EU+ so fair enough if people wanna argue that NA+ is not worth it :P
I'd love to get EU PS+ but it might be a hassle, so I haven't tried. :P But I do like that we (finally) get sleeping dogs and it will be nice to play Blazblue on my vita :P[QUOTE="kingtito"][QUOTE="kuraimen"] Lol funny how after spending the whole gen defending that live was better than psn as a fact lems act as if they're the sensible ones calling for a consensus on the subjectivity of the preference. Fvck off anyone with a brain knows PS+ is a better value than a rip off like gold.kuraimenGo get a PS3. You get a brain first and then we can talk. The least repsected poster on SWs is telling me to get a brain? How ironic. You don't even have a PS3 yet you talk and defend it like your life depended on it. You're a complete moron and you know it. Like I said, get a PS3 then you can talk.
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