What is it about Half Life 2 that i just ''don't get''

[QUOTE="silversix_"]The game is 7 years old... what were you expecting? If you were in 2004 you'd like the game like every single person who've tried it.-Renegade

Well, i found Metroid Prime to be a much better game than HL2, but i'm one of those people who insists that Metroid Prime is not a FPS by any means.

There are plenty of things wrong with HL2, but it's still a better game than just about any other fps out there. It's easily one of the 10 best fps's of all time, and I think it would be hard for anybody (haters included) to objectively put together a list of 10 better fps's.PurpleMan5000

For me the game is overhyped and overrated. It's good but not that good.

[QUOTE="PurpleMan5000"]There are plenty of things wrong with HL2, but it's still a better game than just about any other fps out there. It's easily one of the 10 best fps's of all time, and I think it would be hard for anybody (haters included) to objectively put together a list of 10 better fps's.DarkLink77

Care to, c'mon man, do it, personally, i couldn't make a top 10 FPS games without HLF2, is just not possible in this world :P

[QUOTE="PurpleMan5000"]There are plenty of things wrong with HL2, but it's still a better game than just about any other fps out there. It's easily one of the 10 best fps's of all time, and I think it would be hard for anybody (haters included) to objectively put together a list of 10 better fps's.DarkLink77

Proof or it didn't happen. Well actually it hasn't happened but you get the idea right?:P

Game was a let down for me. The gunplay is nothing special, the characters are kind of meh, the story is poo, the AI is not too good. Like I always say about this game, why praise it for storytelling and pacing when the story it is telling is crap? By the way I played it Nov 2004.

millerlight89

[QUOTE="DarkLink77"][QUOTE="PurpleMan5000"]There are plenty of things wrong with HL2, but it's still a better game than just about any other fps out there. It's easily one of the 10 best fps's of all time, and I think it would be hard for anybody (haters included) to objectively put together a list of 10 better fps's.glez13

Proof or it didn't happen. Well actually it hasn't happened but you get the idea right?:P

Quake III

Unreal Tournament '99

Tribes 2

Half-Life (the original, which wasn't crap)

Halo: CE

Battlefield 2

System Shock 2

Crysis

Unreal Tournament 2K4.

Ten FPS games better than Half-Life 2. Not hard. I even named 11 because I could.

DOOM Quake Quake III Unreal Tournament '99 Tribes 2 Half-Life (the original, which wasn't crap) Halo: CE Battlefield 2 System Shock 2 Crysis Unreal Tournament 2K4. Ten FPS games better than Half-Life 2. Not hard.DarkLink77

I would swap System Shock 2 with No One Lives Forever 2, because SS2 isn't a traditional FPS, but a RPG with loose FPS elements.

Hell, if we consider hybrids, then i might as well mention Deus Ex & Chronicles of Riddick: Escape From Butcher Bay, which are so superior to other first person shooters, they obliterate every single first person shooter in existence.

[QUOTE="DarkLink77"][QUOTE="PurpleMan5000"]There are plenty of things wrong with HL2, but it's still a better game than just about any other fps out there. It's easily one of the 10 best fps's of all time, and I think it would be hard for anybody (haters included) to objectively put together a list of 10 better fps's.madsnakehhh

Care to, c'mon man, do it, personally, i couldn't make a top 10 FPS games without HLF2, is just not possible in this world :P

1. TF2

2. Counter Strike Source

3. Crysis

4. System Shock 2

5. Bioshock

6. Dues Ex

7. Fear

8. Quake 2

9. Call of Duty 4 MW

10. Halo

Edit: I'll do 20 without even picking more than one from a series.

11. Battlefield 2

12. Rainbow 6 vegas

13. Doom 2

14. Left for Dead 2

15. Metal of Honor AA

16. The chronicles of Riddick BB

17. Duke Nukem 3d

18. Kill Zone 2

19. Unreal Tournament

20. Metro 2033

[QUOTE="DarkLink77"]DOOM Quake Quake III Unreal Tournament '99 Tribes 2 Half-Life (the original, which wasn't crap) Halo: CE Battlefield 2 System Shock 2 Crysis Unreal Tournament 2K4. Ten FPS games better than Half-Life 2. Not hard.Lucianu

I would swap System Shock 2 with No One Lives Forever 2, because SS2 isn't a traditional FPS, but a RPG with loose FPS elements.

Hell, if we consider hybrids, then i might as well mention Deus Ex & Chronicles of Riddick: Escape From Butcher Bay, which are so superior to other first person shooters, they obliterate every single first person shooter in existence.

True. System Shock 2 is more of a Action Adventure with some RPG mechanics that let the game be a shooter under certain circumstances. But then again NOLF 2 was also awesome because it had extra elements other than the pure FPS like the stealth and the modification of abilities.

Half Life 2 is also kinda like that it is good not because of the FPS itself but because of the storytelling and the whole feel it created. Honestly of the big three of 04 I preferred Farcry.

[QUOTE="DarkLink77"]DOOM Quake Quake III Unreal Tournament '99 Tribes 2 Half-Life (the original, which wasn't crap) Halo: CE Battlefield 2 System Shock 2 Crysis Unreal Tournament 2K4. Ten FPS games better than Half-Life 2. Not hard.Lucianu

I would swap System Shock 2 with No One Lives Forever 2, because SS2 isn't a traditional FPS, but a RPG with loose FPS elements.

Hell, if we consider hybrids, then i might as well mention Deus Ex & Chronicles of Riddick: Escape From Butcher Bay, which are so superior to other first person shooters, they obliterate every single first person shooter in existence.

[QUOTE="Lucianu"]

[QUOTE="DarkLink77"]DOOM Quake Quake III Unreal Tournament '99 Tribes 2 Half-Life (the original, which wasn't crap) Halo: CE Battlefield 2 System Shock 2 Crysis Unreal Tournament 2K4. Ten FPS games better than Half-Life 2. Not hard.DarkLink77

I would swap System Shock 2 with No One Lives Forever 2, because SS2 isn't a traditional FPS, but a RPG with loose FPS elements.

Hell, if we consider hybrids, then i might as well mention Deus Ex & Chronicles of Riddick: Escape From Butcher Bay, which are so superior to other first person shooters, they obliterate every single first person shooter in existence.

[QUOTE="DarkLink77"][QUOTE="Lucianu"]

I would swap System Shock 2 with No One Lives Forever 2, because SS2 isn't a traditional FPS, but a RPG with loose FPS elements.

Hell, if we consider hybrids, then i might as well mention Deus Ex & Chronicles of Riddick: Escape From Butcher Bay, which are so superior to other first person shooters, they obliterate every single first person shooter in existence.

TrapJak

[QUOTE="TrapJak"]

[QUOTE="DarkLink77"] True that. Riddick kick ass.DarkLink77

Sorry if I'm insulting your game, its my most hated ever next to Demon Souls and Big Rigs.

True. System Shock 2 is more of a Action Adventure with some RPG mechanics that let the game be a shooter under certain circumstances. But then again NOLF 2 was also awesome because it had extra elements other than the pure FPS like the stealth and the modification of abilities.

Half Life 2 is also kinda like that it is good not because of the FPS itself but because of the storytelling and the whole feel it created. Honestly of the big three of 04 I preferred Farcry.

glez13

Yeah, some first person shooters that stand head and shoulders above the rest are the ones that mix things up and, basically, are hybrids that don't depend on the shooting aspect that much. Deus Ex is a Stealth/RPG;Chronicles of Riddick is Action - Adventure/Stealth game, and examples and magnificient games can go on.But then there's pure, arcade FPS games done extremely right. Like Serious Sam, DN3D, Quake, Doom - basically what i call a arcade FPS, a sub-genre.Then there's the 'Michael Bay' sub-genre. Defined by its disturbing focus on scripted set pieces, horrible linearity, and a generic, plain boring theme.

For someone who loved the Metroid Prime series would i find Half Life 2 enjoyable.

ugoo18

The games are completely different, the only common thread of similarity they have are the isolated atmospheres but even those are presented very differently in the actual games.

[QUOTE="DarkLink77"][QUOTE="TrapJak"] Yes, Riddick does kick donkey. Don't know what you were thinking when you put that other game in there. Probrably a glitch.

TrapJak

Sorry if I'm insulting your game, its my most hated ever next to Demon Souls and Big Rigs.

[QUOTE="TrapJak"]

[QUOTE="DarkLink77"] Did you just diss Deus Ex? :oDarkLink77

Sorry if I'm insulting your game, its my most hated ever next to Demon Souls and Big Rigs.

BTW, how far did you get in FF9? I didnt see a review from you on it, but I did see FF8 :lol:.

[QUOTE="glez13"]

[QUOTE="DarkLink77"] I could. It'd be pretty easy, actually.DarkLink77

Proof or it didn't happen. Well actually it hasn't happened but you get the idea right?:P

Quake III

Unreal Tournament '99

Tribes 2

Half-Life (the original, which wasn't crap)

Halo: CE

Battlefield 2

System Shock 2

Crysis

Unreal Tournament 2K4.

Ten FPS games better than Half-Life 2. Not hard. I even named 11 because I could.

Doom and Quake are horrible.

I agree that Half Life and Halo: CE are better.

I haven't played System Shock 2, unfortunately.

Crysis is very good, but I did not enjoy it as much as Half Life 2 (Far Cry was much better than both). You could make an objective case for Crysis being better, though, so I'll give you that one.

The other games are difficult to compare because they are either online only, or focus almost completely on online play. I was talking merely from a single player standpoint, as I don't really enjoy online fps myself. Sorry I did not clarify that. I can see how somebody who prefers online play would not like a game that had no online component.

Doom and Quake are horrible.

PurpleMan5000

Strange thing to say.

Perhaps you are accustomed to more "cinematic qualities" in your games than a 7 year old masterpiece can provide. Compare it to it's contemporaries, and see it for what it was.

[QUOTE="PurpleMan5000"]

Doom and Quake are horrible.

Lucianu

Strange thing to say.

[QUOTE="Lucianu"]

[QUOTE="PurpleMan5000"]

Doom and Quake are horrible.

PurpleMan5000

Strange thing to say.

Doom and Quake are horrible.

PurpleMan5000

SACRILEGE !

DOOM and Quake are still intensely playable. What are you talking about?DarkLink77

Fortunately Doom II doesn't suffer the same fate, as the action in that game is frequently turned up to 11, and the levels are better in general.

They were very good for their time and very influential. However, they are nearly impossible to go back and play today because the gameplay is just far too dated. Horrible AI, horrible graphics, and horrible gunplay make for a bad game. The level design is still very good, but that isn't enough to save those games.PurpleMan5000

Strange thing to say indeed. I've replayed Doom I & II over 20 times, they are still played in MP trough various source ports, and have a giant modding community. And the nightmare mode is more entertaining to play than any arcade FPS in existence. Well, for me and other people.

Its aged gracefully, with smooth frames per second, solid controls (m/kb) and good level design. Aged infinitely better then say.. Goldeneye for example.

Then there's the mods, to give it full mouse look, updated visuals, HD packs, and a ton of excellent campaigns.

I honestly have no idea why you would say it has aged even remotely bad. On the contrary, its the FPS that has aged the best.

[QUOTE="DarkLink77"] DOOM and Quake are still intensely playable. What are you talking about?AAllxxjjnn

You could also use Skulltag, Hi Res items and HD texture pack to make the game look like this:

Half Life 2 is a mindblowing game. The quality of the story, gameplay, mechanics, physics, voice acting, gunplay, atmosphere, all just fantastic.

Half- Life 2 was fun, but it wasn't as great as I thought it would be. However, that can probably be attributed to how overhyped it was and how long it took Valve to release it. Half-Life 2 Episode 2, on the other hand, blew me away!

Even though the 360 version ranks among my favorites, there are some things I can see bugging people, especially some of the vehicle sections. It's more of a taste issue for me than anything else. I loved it for the characters and how different the gunfights feel in comparison to other shooters, Gravity Gun nuff said.

Before anyone comes in here trying to flame, i'm actually trying to have a civil discussion. I'm not saying the game is bad, obviously, it's not. I just didn't like/enjoy it...and i kinda hate myself(not really) because i REALLY wanted to!

I just disliked everything about it...but the sense of isolation/being alone really took a lot of the fun out of it for me. No real NPC's..no real characters...you just go from one side of the level to the next killing things. The mechanics of the game are great, no doubt....but it just didn't feel real? Blah. Hard to explain.

So far those of you who loved the game, what is it about the game you enjoyed?

cyclops10

tbh i never liked HL2. Both the original and ep. 1 are incredibly boring, and ep. 2 isn't much better. Poor AI, mediocre story, horrible gunplay, and atrocious vehicular combat do not make a good FPS in my eyes. And for those using the "its 7 years old" argument, Halo CE is 10 years old and it feels like it was released yesterday(gameplaywise). I find many other current and past FPSs to be superior to HL2 in almost any way.

[QUOTE="Lucianu"]

[QUOTE="PurpleMan5000"]

Doom and Quake are horrible.

PurpleMan5000

Strange thing to say.

you just described HL2. and btw Doom has aged very well. Can't speak for quake though.

I just didn't enjoy it as much as the original. There was some great tech on display but the combat was downright poor and I didn't care for the story.

It was a good game for its time, but it hasn't aged well at all.

I don't understand why some people today still call it the best game of all time. It's really not that great,

ok i just searched steam and whats the difference between HL and HL:EP1? theres two different pics for both games but same pricing....slvrraven9

I loved everything about it. It sounds like your were just expecting the game to be something that it's not.KHAndAnime

What? fun?..dont mean it to sound bad..BUT...at the time HL2 came out it was praised to hight heaven by everyone..online,tv,magazines,ect..What i found was it was just "ok"..I played though some of it on my friends highend pc just to see what the hype was about at the time..HE loved it..I was like...eh, its ok but nothing that just captured me..

Its like Crysis..Its has been hyped as the best of the best..I found it not as much fun as 10 year old fps Ive played. It looked ok but that was it ..I think I might be one of those people that, If you tell me something is going to be great and that it blows something else totally away..I go in very critical of it..AND anything at all turns me off..I say, dont hype things up so high because people go in expecting a LOT..