What is so special graphically about Crysis 2 (On consoles) and Rage?

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#1 hamzah1235
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I honestly dont understand why lemmings are hyping both titles graphically when all of their predictions for console graphics kings have flopped ever since 2007, multiplatform or exclusive. The only aspect of Crysis 2 that i found impressive was the scale and the lighting. The textures were quoted by journalists to be poorly detailed though thats expected due to the games somewhat large scale, the weapon and character models (Except yourself)have average texture quality,the animations are also very average,etc. For Rage, (I know its in Pre-Alpha), the weapon models are average at best, there is little polygonal detail in the environment,the lighting and shadowing are bre-baked, there is no/verylittle environmentaldestruction, it is lacking depth of field, per object motion blur and other post processing effects, and your animations look out-dated in quality, etc. Did I miss anything? I cannot find the reason to hype these games graphically...:?

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#2 RTUUMM
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IDK Crisis 2 looks good, not all that supirior than KZ2 or U2, but still amazing looking. And Rage looks like crap to me.
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#3 hard_body79
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Well rage dose look awsome and the gameplay looked great. if it dose turn out to be that the 360 has the better version i'll surely get that version. Not many multiplatform games impress me but what's been shown of rage has made me happy. I wonder how the PS3 version holds up.

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#4 hamzah1235
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IDK Crisis 2 looks good, not all that supirior than KZ2 or U2, but still amazing looking. And Rage looks like crap to me.RTUUMM
Well, to be fair, Rage is the best looking open world game and it looks far from crap, though i dont understand why Crysis 2 is hyped graphically when U2, GOW3, and KZ2/3 all look much better graphically
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Well rage dose look awsome and the gameplay looked great. if it dose turn out to be that the 360 has the better version i'll surely get that version. Not many multiplatform games impress me but what's been shown of rage has made me happy. I wonder how the PS3 version holds up.

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They said the 360 version will have a better frame-rate, though the PS3 version will have better textures
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#6 Master_ShakeXXX
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I'm not sure why they are hyped so much. I thought KZ3 was significantly better looking than both.

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#7 SaltyMeatballs
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What's so special about KZ3?
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#8 Ninja-Hippo
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It's probably something you need to sit down and see for yourself with Rage. Videos on Gametrailers probably wont do it justice.
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#9 WhenCicadasCry
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Looks pretty spectacular to me.

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What's so special about KZ3?SaltyMeatballs
Because it has a much higher graphical fidelity in every regards...:?
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#11 hard_body79
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IDK Crisis 2 looks good, not all that supirior than KZ2 or U2, but still amazing looking. And Rage looks like crap to me.RTUUMM
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Watch this http://xbox360.ign.com/dor/objects/926417/rage/videos/e310_ignlive_rage_061710.htmland come back and say it looks like "crap" and your standards for video games this gen is offically higher than mine lol.

lol seriously, that looks amazing and I love the animations.

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What I've seen of Crysis 2 impresses me, except for the fact that EVERY clip I've seen shows rampant screen tearing. I hope that's not going to be the final result of cramming the so-called Crytek engine onto consoles, hopefully the end product will be optimized with no screen tearing otherwise it's practically a non starter for me. I'd rather accept lower textures than see a bunch of glitchy looking screen tears running across my screen. I don't see the big deal on Rage. It looks completely mediocre to me.
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#13 KarateeeChop
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crysis 2 makes kz3 look last-gen.

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#14 WhenCicadasCry
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crysis 2 (PC) makes kz3 look last-gen.

KarateeeChop

Fixed. :P Crysis 2 for 360 is easily onpar with Killzone 2. Killzone 3.. Not sure. Both look amazing.

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#15 hamzah1235
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Looks pretty spectacular to me.

WhenCicadasCry

Well, you said you were a Hermit, so why are you trying to defend the console version? Anyways, like i said in my post, if you look at my post, it addresses the fact that Crysis 2 has poorly detailed textured and weapon models in your pics. ^^

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#18 hard_body79
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[QUOTE="hard_body79"]

Well rage dose look awsome and the gameplay looked great. if it dose turn out to be that the 360 has the better version i'll surely get that version. Not many multiplatform games impress me but what's been shown of rage has made me happy. I wonder how the PS3 version holds up.

hamzah1235

They said the 360 version will have a better frame-rate, though the PS3 version will have better textures

Really? Link...

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#19 KarateeeChop
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[QUOTE="KarateeeChop"]

crysis 2 makes kz3 look last-gen.

hamzah1235

....:?. KZ3 has aspects that beat Crysis 2 on PC...

:lol:

saying that won't make it true

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#20 hamzah1235
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crysis 2 makes kz3 look last-gen.

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:lol:. if anything, KZ3 makes Crysis 2 look mediocre at best in every regards
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Neither looks that impressive, but both are a ways off. My biggest concern is that, being from PC devs, is that the analog controls may not be great.

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#23 hard_body79
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[QUOTE="WhenCicadasCry"]

Looks pretty spectacular to me.

hamzah1235

Well, you said you were a Hermit, so why are you trying to defend the console version? Anyways, like i said in my post, if you look at my post, it addresses the fact that Crysis 2 has poorly detailed textured and weapon models in your pics. ^^

lol, he made a thread today that says Halo Reach will be the more feature rich console game this gen--:wink: so what's your take?

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idk whats up with the hype for Rage's graphics, true the character models looked amazing, but from what Ive seen the world looked like a monotone badly rendered mess. I may just be seeing bad shots of it though.

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#25 hamzah1235
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[QUOTE="KarateeeChop"]

[QUOTE="hamzah1235"][QUOTE="KarateeeChop"]

crysis 2 makes kz3 look last-gen.

....:?. KZ3 has aspects that beat Crysis 2 on PC...

:lol:

saying that won't make it true

I thought you meant on PC, and yes, it does (Weapon models By Far, physics, animations, ragdolls, sound effects, etc
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#26 WhenCicadasCry
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[QUOTE="hamzah1235"]

[QUOTE="WhenCicadasCry"]

Looks pretty spectacular to me.

hard_body79

Well, you said you were a Hermit, so why are you trying to defend the console version? Anyways, like i said in my post, if you look at my post, it addresses the fact that Crysis 2 has poorly detailed textured and weapon models in your pics. ^^

lol, he made a thread today that says Halo Reach will be the more feature rich console game this gen--:wink: so what's your take?

Huh? I never made that thread. :|

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#27 Master_ShakeXXX
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[QUOTE="hamzah1235"][QUOTE="KarateeeChop"]

crysis 2 makes kz3 look last-gen.

KarateeeChop

....:?. KZ3 has aspects that beat Crysis 2 on PC...

:lol:

saying that won't make it true

In terms of certain physics I could see it being true.

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[QUOTE="KarateeeChop"]

[QUOTE="hamzah1235"] ....:?. KZ3 has aspects that beat Crysis 2 on PC...hamzah1235

:lol:

saying that won't make it true

I thought you meant on PC, and yes, it does (Weapon models By Far, physics, animations, ragdolls, sound effects, etc

:lol: yeah it totally does right?

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[QUOTE="KarateeeChop"]

[QUOTE="hamzah1235"] ....:?. KZ3 has aspects that beat Crysis 2 on PC...Master_ShakeXXX

:lol:

saying that won't make it true

In terms of certain physics I could see it being true.

Killzone 3 has better physics then Crysis 2? :lol:

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[QUOTE="hamzah1235"][QUOTE="WhenCicadasCry"]

Fixed. :P Crysis 2 for 360 is easily onpar with Killzone 2. Killzone 3.. Not sure. Both look amazing.

WhenCicadasCry

:lol:

Lol?

......Ive explained to you lots of times that the image is 3Dfrom the E3 footage, so its extremely blurry unless you have your 3D glasses

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#31 WhenCicadasCry
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[QUOTE="WhenCicadasCry"]

[QUOTE="hamzah1235"] :lol:hamzah1235

Lol?

......Ive explained to you lots of times that the image is 3Dfrom the E3 footage, so its extremely blurry unless you have your 3D glasses

No it's not. It's from the Gamersyde video which everyone kept linking me to because it's NOT 3D footage.

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#32 Master_ShakeXXX
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[QUOTE="Master_ShakeXXX"]

[QUOTE="KarateeeChop"]

:lol:

saying that won't make it true

WhenCicadasCry

In terms of certain physics I could see it being true.

Killzone 3 has better physics then Crysis 2? :lol:

Good job on misquoting me.

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#33 2Chalupas
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idk whats up with the hype for Rage's graphics, true the character models looked amazing, but from what Ive seen the world looked like a monotone badly rendered mess. I may just be seeing bad shots of it though.

dragonfly110

I never played Borderlands, but looking at clips of that and looking at clips of Rage, they sort of resemble each other. Obviously borderlands is purely cell shaded, but Rage kind of has a little watercolor painting type look going on as well.

Not saying it will be a terrible game. Might be a really sweet game. Just don't see it as anything special right now as far as the GRAPHICS. PC version will probably look nice with the higher resolution textures at max settings, but as far as consoles go Crysis 2 still looks best (if the screen tearing is fixed) and of course Killzone 3.

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#34 WhenCicadasCry
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Pretty damn impressive if you ask me. ;)

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#35 Quaker-w00ts
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i personally think Killzone looked a tiny better than Crysis, but that doesn't mean Crysis doesn't look fantastic.

i don't know anything about Rage thought so i cannot comment.

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#36 hamzah1235
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Here are much better examples, and KZ3 is still in pre-alpha while it looks much better graphically than Crysis 2 and Rage

Killzone 3 Screenshot

Killzone 3 Artwork

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#37 WhenCicadasCry
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Here are much better examples, and KZ3 is still in pre-alpha while it looks much better graphically than Crysis 2 and Rage

Killzone 3 Screenshot

Killzone 3 Artwork

hamzah1235

Character models and animations are the only thing Killzone 3 does better then Crysis 2. Everything else Crysis 2 >>> Killzone 3.

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Here are much better examples, and KZ3 is still in pre-alpha while it looks much better graphically than Crysis 2 and Rage

hamzah1235

i can't even tell if you're serious

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#41 WhenCicadasCry
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[QUOTE="hamzah1235"]

Here are much better examples, and KZ3 is still in pre-alpha while it looks much better graphically than Crysis 2 and Rage

Master_ShakeXXX

^ This. I don't really see how any one can argue with that. Crysis 2 got killzOWNED.

How? :lol: Look at the buildings, they look square. No definition. It reminds me of Quake 4.

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Off Topic: Why did the Helghast retreat to the more colder parts of Helghan?

On: Mis quoting FTW

[QUOTE="Master_ShakeXXX"]

[QUOTE="KarateeeChop"]

[QUOTE="hamzah1235"] ....:?. KZ3 has aspects that beat Crysis 2 on PC...WhenCicadasCry

:lol:

saying that won't make it true

In terms of certain physics I could see it being true.

Killzone 3 has better physics then Crysis 2? :lol:

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#44 hard_body79
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Huh? I never made that thread. :|

WhenCicadasCry

Oh sorry must have been a look-a-like. There are so many self-proclaimed hermets that show all the characteristics of xbox360 fanboys that it gets hard to distiguish one from the other sometimes.

in either case, I've stil seen you show all the actions of all the other so-called hermits who act like xbox360 fanboys bashing everything PS3 and praising everything xbox360 so it's really no diffrent.

Example............................................................................

Like GG and their insecurities. "Pre Alpha Footage". I'mma stop commenting in this thread and wait for Crysis 2 to be released and pronounced graphics king both console and PC. WhenCicadasCry

http://www.gamespot.com/pages/forums/show_msgs.php?topic_id=27357101&msg_id=323052578#323052578

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#45 Ravensmash
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Well they both look better than anything currently on consoles, that's why they're hyped. And PS3 owners claiming that 360 will NEVER match UC2, etc. and how it's peaked years ago.....well the fact that these two are coming out kind of debunks that point completely. Don't know why you're bothered - you get the games too...and if they're up there graphically (and gameplay wise), then you'll get to witness it too - regardless of multiplat or not.
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The console versions of crysis 2 were verry unimpressive. They were not crap, but I don't see console crysis 2 being top 3 in console graphics once all that was in E3 has been released.

PC, Crysis 2 will wreck everything we've seen.

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Well they both look better than anything currently on consoles, that's why they're hyped. And PS3 owners claiming that 360 will NEVER match UC2, etc. and how it's peaked years ago.....well the fact that these two are coming out kind of debunks that point completely. Don't know why you're bothered - you get the games too...and if they're up there graphically (and gameplay wise), then you'll get to witness it too - regardless of multiplat or not.Ravensmash
....Im sorry, but they are definately not up there, espicially with the points in the thread
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#48 WhenCicadasCry
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[QUOTE="WhenCicadasCry"]

[QUOTE="hard_body79"]

Huh? I never made that thread. :|

hard_body79

Oh sorry must have been a look-a-like. There are so many self-proclaimed hermets that show all the characteristics of xbox360 fanboys that it gets hard to distiguish one from the other sometimes.

in either case, I've stil seen you show all the actions of all the other so-called hermits who act like xbox360 fanboys bashing everything PS3 and praising everything xbox360 so it's really no diffrent.

Example............................................................................

Like GG and their insecurities. "Pre Alpha Footage". I'mma stop commenting in this thread and wait for Crysis 2 to be released and pronounced graphics king both console and PC. WhenCicadasCry

http://www.gamespot.com/pages/forums/show_msgs.php?topic_id=27357101&msg_id=323052578#323052578

:lol: I like the PS3 more then the 360, I just digest Killzone and all it's lame glory. Check my posting history. :)

This looks better then this, sorry.

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#50 hamzah1235
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[QUOTE="Master_ShakeXXX"]

In terms of certain physics I could see it being true.

WhenCicadasCry

Killzone 3 has better physics then Crysis 2? :lol:

Off Topic: Why did the Helghast retreat to the more colder parts of Helghan?

Quaker-w00ts

They never did, the ISA just never explored in that area before