What is so special graphically about Crysis 2 (On consoles) and Rage?

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#151 erglesmergle
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Rage is hyped to the max. Crysis 2 is automatically something to talk about but it looks like its going to be the the big disappointment.

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#152 erglesmergle
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[QUOTE="windsquid9000"]

[QUOTE="WhenCicadasCry"]

Because you've played both? Are you purposely trolling, because someone can't be this ignorant. :|

WhenCicadasCry

But they have awesome visuals. The developers couldn't have spent time on anything else, right?

Nope, it's not like any of Cryteks games have had fantastic gameplay that compliment the graphics. :P

Crysis put me to sleep. I was knocked out asleep.

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#153 Supafly1
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[QUOTE="SaltyMeatballs"]What's so special about KZ3?hamzah1235
Because it has a much higher graphical fidelity in every regards...:?

Rage and Crysis 2 are on a larger scale, more of an open world game and at the same time they look quite good.
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#154 windsquid9000
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[QUOTE="WhenCicadasCry"]

[QUOTE="windsquid9000"] But they have awesome visuals. The developers couldn't have spent time on anything else, right?

erglesmergle

Nope, it's not like any of Cryteks games have had fantastic gameplay that compliment the graphics. :P

Crysis put me to sleep. I was knocked out asleep.

Gamespot : 9.5/10 Average Score : 9.0/10 Your opinion seems to be an outlier.
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#155 OhSnapitz
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Personally I'm very impressed with the way Rage is turning out. It looks like a high end PC title (with a few sacrifices here and there). Crysis 2 looks pretty good as well but I'm not overly impressed with it at this stage. The textures look a little low res and the enemies seem entirely too scripted. But hey, that's just my opinion.

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#156 windsquid9000
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Personally I'm very impressed with the way Rage is turning out. It looks like a high end PC title (with a few sacrifices here and there). Crysis 2 looks pretty good as well but I'm not overly impressed with it at this stage. The textures look a little low res and the enemies seem entirely too scripted. But hey, that's just my opinion.

OhSnapitz

1. C2's A.I. actually has more freedom than most (if not all) shooters.

2. The A.I. at it's best hasn't been shown yet since it was demoed on easy.

3. The game's not done yet.

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#157 OhSnapitz
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[QUOTE="OhSnapitz"]

Personally I'm very impressed with the way Rage is turning out. It looks like a high end PC title (with a few sacrifices here and there). Crysis 2 looks pretty good as well but I'm not overly impressed with it at this stage. The textures look a little low res and the enemies seem entirely too scripted. But hey, that's just my opinion.

windsquid9000

1. C2's A.I. actually has more freedom than most (if not all) shooters.

2. The A.I. at it's best hasn't been shown yet since it was demoed on easy.

3. The game's not done yet.

I believe you highlighted the wrong part. ;)

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#158 AAllxxjjnn
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Crysis 2 kicks Killzone 3's ****in' ass.
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#159 fun-da-mental
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Rage looks and plays great whereas Crysis 2 looks and plays like a generic shooter.

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#160 FIipMode
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I'm more impressed with Rage than Crysis 2, just doesn't do it for me, and especially because Rage is at 60fps I find it the most impressive out of the 2.
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#161 TehNubTuber
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Crysis 2 kicks Killzone 3's ****in' ass.AAllxxjjnn
PC version. Console version gets butt ******. lol.
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#162 Ravensmash
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[QUOTE="AAllxxjjnn"]Crysis 2 kicks Killzone 3's ****in' ass.TehNubTuber
PC version. Console version gets butt ******. lol.

Judging by the screens posted it doesn't. Rage is more impressive than both in my eyes though - at the moment.
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#163 IgorAntunov
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Crysis 1 makes crysis 2 on consoles look last gen, which is why most pc gamers don't see the fuss. However, crysis 2 on pc.... :)
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#164 killzowned24
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Crysis 2 particles look so bad compared to KZ2 with the sparks having no physics.

And face it Crysis 2 is a KZ poser using deferred lighting and lens flares everywhere.

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#165 Golden_Boy187
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ROFL sony fanboys..........just accept that console graphic king is multiplat

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#166 WhenCicadasCry
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Crysis 2 particles look so bad compared to KZ2 with the sparks having no physics.

And face it Crysis 2 is a KZ poser using deferred lighting and lens flares everywhere.

killzowned24

:lol: Crysis 2s particle effects are affected by wind.

Bouncing sparks are the most unrealistic physics ever. SPARKS DO NOT BOUNCE, THEY DISSIPATE. I know Killzone is so insecure that it has to overexaggerate everything just to seem 8).

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#167 TehNubTuber
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ROFL sony fanboys..........just accept that console graphic king is multiplat

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KZ3 will become console graphics king, Currently it's either, KZ2, UC2 or GoW III. Nice try though.
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#168 killzowned24
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[QUOTE="killzowned24"]

Crysis 2 particles look so bad compared to KZ2 with the sparks having no physics.

And face it Crysis 2 is a KZ poser using deferred lighting and lens flares everywhere.

WhenCicadasCry

:lol: Crysis 2s particle effects are affected by wind.

Bouncing sparks are the most unrealistic physics ever. SPARKS DO NOT BOUNCE, THEY DISSIPATE. I know Killzone is so insecure that it has to overexaggerate everything just to seem 8).

You dont know that for a fact ,but we know KZ2 does. Sparks with physics looks so much better as to make the rest look last gen, it certainly makes Uncharted2 and KZ2 look far better:)
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Crysis 2 particles look so bad compared to KZ2 with the sparks having no physics.

And face it Crysis 2 is a KZ poser using deferred lighting and lens flares everywhere.killzowned24

Because Killzone 2 invented deferred lighting and lens flare...?

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#170 WhenCicadasCry
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[QUOTE="WhenCicadasCry"]

[QUOTE="killzowned24"]

Crysis 2 particles look so bad compared to KZ2 with the sparks having no physics.

And face it Crysis 2 is a KZ poser using deferred lighting and lens flares everywhere.

killzowned24

:lol: Crysis 2s particle effects are affected by wind.

Bouncing sparks are the most unrealistic physics ever. SPARKS DO NOT BOUNCE, THEY DISSIPATE. I know Killzone is so insecure that it has to overexaggerate everything just to seem 8).

You dont know that for a fact ,but we know KZ2 does. Sparks with physics looks so much better as to make the rest look last gen, it certainly makes Uncharted2 and KZ2 look far better:)

So you're impressed with things that look unnatural? Right-o. :roll:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WTFQp625FqI Crytek could have done this, but you know why they never? It looks ridiculous.

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#171 WhenCicadasCry
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[QUOTE="killzowned24"]Crysis 2 particles look so bad compared to KZ2 with the sparks having no physics.

And face it Crysis 2 is a KZ poser using deferred lighting and lens flares everywhere.AAllxxjjnn

Because Killzone 2 invented deferred lighting and lens flare...?

Apparently it invented weapon recoil, and weapon sway too. :lol:

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#172 killab2oo5
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Obviously you're blind so I wont waste my breath. ^_^
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#173 killzowned24
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[QUOTE="killzowned24"][QUOTE="WhenCicadasCry"]

:lol: Crysis 2s particle effects are affected by wind.

Bouncing sparks are the most unrealistic physics ever. SPARKS DO NOT BOUNCE, THEY DISSIPATE. I know Killzone is so insecure that it has to overexaggerate everything just to seem 8).

WhenCicadasCry

You dont know that for a fact ,but we know KZ2 does. Sparks with physics looks so much better as to make the rest look last gen, it certainly makes Uncharted2 and KZ2 look far better:)

So you're impressed with things that look unnatural? Right-o. :roll:

Hollywood effects man. just look at the crysis particle mod, you cant tell me that doesnt blow away the vanilla version.

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#174 Ravensmash
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[QUOTE="Golden_Boy187"]

ROFL sony fanboys..........just accept that console graphic king is multiplat

TehNubTuber
KZ3 will become console graphics king, Currently it's either, KZ2, UC2 or GoW III. Nice try though.

Why do you say that with such authority, when it's simply speculation at this point?
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#175 killzowned24
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[QUOTE="killzowned24"]Crysis 2 particles look so bad compared to KZ2 with the sparks having no physics.

And face it Crysis 2 is a KZ poser using deferred lighting and lens flares everywhere.AAllxxjjnn

Because Killzone 2 invented deferred lighting and lens flare...?

No, but there is no denying crysis 2 look like KZ2.
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#176 WhenCicadasCry
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[QUOTE="WhenCicadasCry"]

[QUOTE="killzowned24"] You dont know that for a fact ,but we know KZ2 does. Sparks with physics looks so much better as to make the rest look last gen, it certainly makes Uncharted2 and KZ2 look far better:)killzowned24

So you're impressed with things that look unnatural? Right-o. :roll:

Hollywood effects man. just look at the crysis particle mod, you ant tell me that doesnt blow away the vanilla version.

It looks stupid. :? I could use it but Vanilla looks far more natural.

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#177 Ravensmash
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[QUOTE="AAllxxjjnn"]

[QUOTE="killzowned24"]Crysis 2 particles look so bad compared to KZ2 with the sparks having no physics.

And face it Crysis 2 is a KZ poser using deferred lighting and lens flares everywhere.killzowned24

Because Killzone 2 invented deferred lighting and lens flare...?

No, but there is no denying crysis 2 look like KZ2.

Ah! So now you admit that it's easily on par?!
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#178 killzowned24
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[QUOTE="killzowned24"][QUOTE="WhenCicadasCry"]

So you're impressed with things that look unnatural? Right-o. :roll:

WhenCicadasCry

Hollywood effects man. just look at the crysis particle mod, you ant tell me that doesnt blow away the vanilla version.

It looks stupid. :? I could use it but Vanilla looks far more natural.

it does look stupid cause he over did it.KZ2 spews out the perfect amount to looks awesome and still real enough for game world.
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#179 sergemyster8
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Crysis 2 and Killzone 3 are tied for me. It'll change once they both come out and I play them.

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#180 WhenCicadasCry
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[QUOTE="WhenCicadasCry"]

[QUOTE="killzowned24"] Hollywood effects man. just look at the crysis particle mod, you ant tell me that doesnt blow away the vanilla version.killzowned24

It looks stupid. :? I could use it but Vanilla looks far more natural.

it does look stupid cause he over did it.KZ2 spews out the perfect amount to looks awesome and still real enough for game world.

That's preference. It doesn't mean that the Cryengine isn't capable of it.

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#181 killzowned24
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[QUOTE="killzowned24"][QUOTE="AAllxxjjnn"] Because Killzone 2 invented deferred lighting and lens flare...?

Ravensmash

No, but there is no denying crysis 2 look like KZ2.

Ah! So now you admit that it's easily on par?!

with KZ2 maybe. have to see final with rez and image quality.

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#182 WhenCicadasCry
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Comparison: Killzone 2 / 3 looks like a game, while some parts of Crysis 2 looks like a movie.

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#183 killzowned24
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[QUOTE="killzowned24"][QUOTE="WhenCicadasCry"]

It looks stupid. :? I could use it but Vanilla looks far more natural.

WhenCicadasCry

it does look stupid cause he over did it.KZ2 spews out the perfect amount to looks awesome and still real enough for game world.

That's preference. It doesn't mean that the Cryengine isn't capable of it.

But it doesnt do it and the effect has been proven to be the best.
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#184 AAllxxjjnn
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[QUOTE="AAllxxjjnn"]

[QUOTE="killzowned24"]Crysis 2 particles look so bad compared to KZ2 with the sparks having no physics.

And face it Crysis 2 is a KZ poser using deferred lighting and lens flares everywhere.killzowned24

Because Killzone 2 invented deferred lighting and lens flare...?

No, but there is no denying crysis 2 look like KZ2.

What? It doesn't look like Killzone 2 at all.
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#185 Golden_Boy187
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[QUOTE="Golden_Boy187"]

ROFL sony fanboys..........just accept that console graphic king is multiplat

TehNubTuber

KZ3 will become console graphics king, Currently it's either, KZ2, UC2 or GoW III. Nice try though.

no just no its either rage or crysis 2....stop being a fanboy

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[QUOTE="TehNubTuber"][QUOTE="Golden_Boy187"]

ROFL sony fanboys..........just accept that console graphic king is multiplat

Golden_Boy187

KZ3 will become console graphics king, Currently it's either, KZ2, UC2 or GoW III. Nice try though.

no just no its either rage or crysis 2....stop being a fanboy

I'm being a fanboy? :lol: those games aren't even on the market :lol:
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[QUOTE="WhenCicadasCry"]

[QUOTE="killzowned24"]

Crysis 2 particles look so bad compared to KZ2 with the sparks having no physics.

And face it Crysis 2 is a KZ poser using deferred lighting and lens flares everywhere.

killzowned24

:lol: Crysis 2s particle effects are affected by wind.

Bouncing sparks are the most unrealistic physics ever. SPARKS DO NOT BOUNCE, THEY DISSIPATE. I know Killzone is so insecure that it has to overexaggerate everything just to seem 8).

You dont know that for a fact ,but we know KZ2 does. Sparks with physics looks so much better as to make the rest look last gen, it certainly makes Uncharted2 and KZ2 look far better:)

you do know that source, a last gen engine, has physics particles including sparks, kz2's sparks arent anything new. and also you do know that bullets rarely if ever spark.
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i get the hype around crysis 2, but i think alot of people are seeing the pc version and expecting the xbox one to look just as good which will never happen.

but rage really doesn't impress me. it looks very good for an open world game but not spectacular really.

KZ3 on the other hand seems to be shaping up as the new console graphical benchmark just as KZ2 was before it :)

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#189 delta3074
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[QUOTE="killzowned24"][QUOTE="WhenCicadasCry"]:lol: Crysis 2s particle effects are affected by wind.Bouncing sparks are the most unrealistic physics ever. SPARKS DO NOT BOUNCE, THEY DISSIPATE. I know Killzone is so insecure that it has to overexaggerate everything just to seem 8).ferret-gamer
You dont know that for a fact ,but we know KZ2 does. Sparks with physics looks so much better as to make the rest look last gen, it certainly makes Uncharted2 and KZ2 look far better:)

you do know that source, a last gen engine, has physics particles including sparks, kz2's sparks arent anything new. and also you do know that bullets rarely if ever spark.

correct, bullets don't spark at all, the explosive force behind a bullet is confined to the chamber, during the day it's impossible to see muzzle flash, muzzlw flash is only visible at night and all it is is an intense burst of light, no sparks, and they certainly don't spark when they hit anything either, even metal, i should know, i spent 6 years in the army, stupid hollywood effects that are completely unrealistic and don't exist in the real world, like motion blur,looks good but it's hardly realistic
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[QUOTE="WhenCicadasCry"]

[QUOTE="killzowned24"] it does look stupid cause he over did it.KZ2 spews out the perfect amount to looks awesome and still real enough for game world.killzowned24

That's preference. It doesn't mean that the Cryengine isn't capable of it.

But it doesnt do it and the effect has been proven to be the best.

It is an overly distracting visual flair that is neither necessary nor realistic... They only reason they did it was so they could have something to show off in demos as "hey look what we can do."

All it does is add more useless effects to the screen that make it even more difficult to tell what is going on.. Honestly, I think Crysis 2 already has enough crazy particle effects going on that fill up the screen and distract from the gameplay...

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#191 _zeldredz_
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[QUOTE="killzowned24"]

Crysis 2 particles look so bad compared to KZ2 with the sparks having no physics.

And face it Crysis 2 is a KZ poser using deferred lighting and lens flares everywhere.

WhenCicadasCry

:lol: Crysis 2s particle effects are affected by wind.

Bouncing sparks are the most unrealistic physics ever. SPARKS DO NOT BOUNCE, THEY DISSIPATE. I know Killzone is so insecure that it has to overexaggerate everything just to seem 8).

LOL! i'm an electrician and hence used a grinder at work today. Sparks, do indeed bounce.

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#192 KingsMessenger
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i get the hype around crysis 2, but i think alot of people are seeing the pc version and expecting the xbox one to look just as good which will never happen.

but rage really doesn't impress me. it looks very good for an open world game but not spectacular really.

KZ3 on the other hand seems to be shaping up as the new console graphical benchmark just as KZ2 was before it :)

_zeldredz_

they were demoing the Xbox 360 build of Crysis 2 at E3... That is what we have been seeing.

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#193 delta3074
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[QUOTE="WhenCicadasCry"]

[QUOTE="killzowned24"]

Crysis 2 particles look so bad compared to KZ2 with the sparks having no physics.

And face it Crysis 2 is a KZ poser using deferred lighting and lens flares everywhere.

_zeldredz_

:lol: Crysis 2s particle effects are affected by wind.

Bouncing sparks are the most unrealistic physics ever. SPARKS DO NOT BOUNCE, THEY DISSIPATE. I know Killzone is so insecure that it has to overexaggerate everything just to seem 8).

LOL! i'm an electrician and hence used a grinder at work today. Sparks, do indeed bounce.

why would an electrician be using a grinder? please explain as my old man has been a sparkie for 50 years, and he doesn't even own a grinder, i fail to see the application, do you need to grind wires or something?
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#194 killzowned24
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[QUOTE="killzowned24"][QUOTE="WhenCicadasCry"]

:lol: Crysis 2s particle effects are affected by wind.

Bouncing sparks are the most unrealistic physics ever. SPARKS DO NOT BOUNCE, THEY DISSIPATE. I know Killzone is so insecure that it has to overexaggerate everything just to seem 8).

ferret-gamer

You dont know that for a fact ,but we know KZ2 does. Sparks with physics looks so much better as to make the rest look last gen, it certainly makes Uncharted2 and KZ2 look far better:)

you do know that source, a last gen engine, has physics particles including sparks, kz2's sparks arent anything new. and also you do know that bullets rarely if ever spark.

Give it up guys. The same spark effect EVERY single time looks terrible compared to sparks with physics where each shot gives a different effect.

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#195 delta3074
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[QUOTE="ferret-gamer"][QUOTE="killzowned24"] You dont know that for a fact ,but we know KZ2 does. Sparks with physics looks so much better as to make the rest look last gen, it certainly makes Uncharted2 and KZ2 look far better:)killzowned24

you do know that source, a last gen engine, has physics particles including sparks, kz2's sparks arent anything new. and also you do know that bullets rarely if ever spark.

Give it up guys. The same spark effect EVERY single time looks terrible compared to sparks with physics where each shot gives a different effect.

he's right though, bullets do not spark, at all
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#196 _zeldredz_
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[QUOTE="_zeldredz_"]

[QUOTE="WhenCicadasCry"]

:lol: Crysis 2s particle effects are affected by wind.

Bouncing sparks are the most unrealistic physics ever. SPARKS DO NOT BOUNCE, THEY DISSIPATE. I know Killzone is so insecure that it has to overexaggerate everything just to seem 8).

delta3074

LOL! i'm an electrician and hence used a grinder at work today. Sparks, do indeed bounce.

why would an electrician be using a grinder? please explain as my old man has been a sparkie for 50 years, and he doesn't even own a grinder, i fail to see the application, do you need to grind wires or something?

we install solar panel arrays on roofs sometimes and the rails they are mounted on all come at one lenght which we usually need to chop and change :)

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#197 killzowned24
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[QUOTE="killzowned24"]

[QUOTE="ferret-gamer"] you do know that source, a last gen engine, has physics particles including sparks, kz2's sparks arent anything new. and also you do know that bullets rarely if ever spark.delta3074

Give it up guys. The same spark effect EVERY single time looks terrible compared to sparks with physics where each shot gives a different effect.

he's right though, bullets do not spark, at all

Like I said its hollywood effects. there is no doubt it looks best.

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#198 delta3074
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[QUOTE="delta3074"][QUOTE="_zeldredz_"]

LOL! i'm an electrician and hence used a grinder at work today. Sparks, do indeed bounce.

_zeldredz_

why would an electrician be using a grinder? please explain as my old man has been a sparkie for 50 years, and he doesn't even own a grinder, i fail to see the application, do you need to grind wires or something?

we install solar panel arrays on roofs sometimes and the rails they are mounted on all come at one lenght which we usually need to chop and change :)

cool, that sounds like an interesting job actually, unfortunately since i left the forces i have had a bit of a thing against heights,lol
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#199 _zeldredz_
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[QUOTE="_zeldredz_"]

[QUOTE="delta3074"]why would an electrician be using a grinder? please explain as my old man has been a sparkie for 50 years, and he doesn't even own a grinder, i fail to see the application, do you need to grind wires or something?delta3074

we install solar panel arrays on roofs sometimes and the rails they are mounted on all come at one lenght which we usually need to chop and change :)

cool, that sounds like an interesting job actually, unfortunately since i left the forces i have had a bit of a thing against heights,lol

it's pretty fun to mix things up from our usual work. also we get to work in a group rather than one or two guys so we have a good time :)

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#200 KingsMessenger
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Give it up guys. The same spark effect EVERY single time looks terrible compared to sparks with physics where each shot gives a different effect.

killzowned24

good thing it isn't the same every time in Crysis 2 because it is either affected by physics, having collisions and dissipating or they have a TON of different spark effects, at which point there really isn't any noticable difference..... The spark effects almost always look different based on directionality and surroundings..