What is so special graphically about Crysis 2 (On consoles) and Rage?

[QUOTE="Snugenz"]

[QUOTE="TehNubTuber"]^^ Yes I did, none of them said as explicitly as these quotes that it was graphics king, they just said the game looked great, or at best that it was the best looking game on the 360. None of them said it was graphics king or the best looking game on consoles. Ownage denied :P The large majority of gaming press agrees now and will agree whrn the games are released, KZ3 is by far the most impressive title, even if it ends up not being the best game.delta3074

One of them said it looked like a game from next gen (as in the gen after this one). :P

[QUOTE="delta3074"][QUOTE="Snugenz"]One of them said it looked like a game from next gen (as in the gen after this one). :PTehNubTuber

Is everyone forgetting that both Crysis 2 and RAGE are on the PS3 as well?

[QUOTE="TehNubTuber"][QUOTE="delta3074"]next gen graphics>current gen graphics king, watch him go into denial,loldelta3074

Is everyone forgetting that both Crysis 2 and RAGE are on the PS3 as well?

Esnedon

Is everyone forgetting that both Crysis 2 and RAGE are on the PS3 as well?

Esnedon

[QUOTE="Esnedon"]

Is everyone forgetting that both Crysis 2 and RAGE are on the PS3 as well?

killzowned24

Crysis 2 version on PC will not be show until end of summer, and Rage probably until QuakeCon.

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[QUOTE="Esnedon"]

Is everyone forgetting that both Crysis 2 and RAGE are on the PS3 as well?

Ondoval

Crysis 2 version on PC will not be show until end of summer, and Rage probably until QuakeCon.

The console version of Crysis 2 didn't impress. People are seeing the name Crysis and assuming zomg amazing. For consoles KZ3 was more visually impressive. Though this tends not to matter because 'console graphic kings' are a myth.

Crysis 2 on the PC is the only real Crysis 2 and the one that will masscre any chance any console game has at the 'graphics king' title.

[QUOTE="Ondoval"]

[QUOTE="killzowned24"] or that the last crysis2 console footage shown looked terrible and all content used in this thread is from pc.

killzowned24

Crysis 2 version on PC will not be show until end of summer, and Rage probably until QuakeCon.

The console version of Crysis 2 didn't impress. People are seeing the name Crysis and assuming zomg amazing. For consoles KZ3 was more visually impressive. Though this tends not to matter because 'console graphic kings' are a myth.

Crysis 2 on the PC is the only real Crysis 2 and the one that will masscre any chance any console game has at the 'graphics king' title.

MajorGamer531

[QUOTE="killzowned24"][QUOTE="Ondoval"]

Crysis 2 version on PC will not be show until end of summer, and Rage probably until QuakeCon.

Ravensmash

[QUOTE="Ravensmash"][QUOTE="killzowned24"] e3 videos were pc.killzowned24

[QUOTE="MajorGamer531"]

The console version of Crysis 2 didn't impress. People are seeing the name Crysis and assuming zomg amazing. For consoles KZ3 was more visually impressive. Though this tends not to matter because 'console graphic kings' are a myth.

Crysis 2 on the PC is the only real Crysis 2 and the one that will masscre any chance any console game has at the 'graphics king' title.

Ravensmash

When you are fighting for 2nd best you are not king of anything.

The reason people were concerned if it was reduced quality PC or console footage was because it looked BAD for a PC. Maybe unimpressive was too much, but I would say the console version of Crysis 2 did not meet expectations. The expectation was that it would hands down beat every other console game it was lined up with, yet now its debateable whether or not it did beat let alone clearly beat all other consoles.

[QUOTE="killzowned24"]

[QUOTE="Ravensmash"] It was a 360 build running on PC yes, as Crytek themselves have said.Ravensmash

[QUOTE="Esnedon"]

Is everyone forgetting that both Crysis 2 and RAGE are on the PS3 as well?

killzowned24

So terrible that ppl here couldnt believe it was 360 version until it was proved. Also there is no vids of PC first person gameplay yet.

[QUOTE="Ravensmash"][QUOTE="MajorGamer531"]

The console version of Crysis 2 didn't impress. People are seeing the name Crysis and assuming zomg amazing. For consoles KZ3 was more visually impressive. Though this tends not to matter because 'console graphic kings' are a myth.

Crysis 2 on the PC is the only real Crysis 2 and the one that will masscre any chance any console game has at the 'graphics king' title.

MajorGamer531

When you are fighting for 2nd best you are not king of anything.

The reason people were concerned if it was reduced quality PC or console footage was because it looked BAD for a PC. Maybe unimpressive was too much, but I would say the console version of Crysis 2 did not meet expectations. The expectation was that it would hands down beat every other console game it was lined up with, yet now its debateable whether or not it did beat let alone clearly beat all other consoles.

[QUOTE="killzowned24"]

[QUOTE="Esnedon"]

Is everyone forgetting that both Crysis 2 and RAGE are on the PS3 as well?

PAL360

So terrible that ppl here couldnt believe it was 360 version until it was proved. Also there is no vids of PC first person gameplay yet.

[QUOTE="hamzah1235"]

[QUOTE="Ravensmash"] So, how can you say all this stuff on Crysis 2 and KZ3 without it being directly playable? Based on the tech behind it, Crysis 2 imo looks more impressive (this is me going from screenshots and video).delta3074

Ive been proven wrong? :lol:. Espicially coming from the guy who said AW will be the new console graphics king :lol:. KZ3 does use global illumination, i never said it ray traces every particle effect dynamically, though you do realize the Cell is extremely, extremely good at ray tracing. I never said that MLAA was never done before, though the PS3's MLAA technique is different than the Pentium 4's MLAA technique, in which it yields higher results more efficiently. AAA on the 360 only yields MSAAx8 as far as we can see. KZ3 looks much better graphically than C2 in every regard except lighting, "Lose my attitude that Ps3 exclusives look leaps and bounds better then 360 exclusives or multiplats"...:?. Its not an attitude, its a fact that they look much betetr graphically. What articles are you talking about?

[QUOTE="MajorGamer531"]

[QUOTE="Ravensmash"] Of course it impressed, when it was first shown people weren't sure whether it was actually console or reduced quality PC. It was only when it was 360 build footage that everyone started thinking it looked bad. And how are 'console graphics kings' a myth? It defines the best looking game on consoles :|Ravensmash

When you are fighting for 2nd best you are not king of anything.

The reason people were concerned if it was reduced quality PC or console footage was because it looked BAD for a PC. Maybe unimpressive was too much, but I would say the console version of Crysis 2 did not meet expectations. The expectation was that it would hands down beat every other console game it was lined up with, yet now its debateable whether or not it did beat let alone clearly beat all other consoles.

[QUOTE="MajorGamer531"]

[QUOTE="Ravensmash"] Of course it impressed, when it was first shown people weren't sure whether it was actually console or reduced quality PC. It was only when it was 360 build footage that everyone started thinking it looked bad. And how are 'console graphics kings' a myth? It defines the best looking game on consoles :|Ravensmash

When you are fighting for 2nd best you are not king of anything.

The reason people were concerned if it was reduced quality PC or console footage was because it looked BAD for a PC. Maybe unimpressive was too much, but I would say the console version of Crysis 2 did not meet expectations. The expectation was that it would hands down beat every other console game it was lined up with, yet now its debateable whether or not it did beat let alone clearly beat all other consoles.

I know the concept of console graphics kings, but I see no point in having one. Comparing system hardware will already tell me which machine can outperform which when properly optimized, the rest is up to the game developers. There is no sense in having console graphics kings, the title is nothing but a fanboy attempt to bolster their system and parade it as a valid arguement of system superiority when for each system the title ultimately amounts to nothing in terms of value.

[QUOTE="Ravensmash"][QUOTE="MajorGamer531"]

When you are fighting for 2nd best you are not king of anything.

The reason people were concerned if it was reduced quality PC or console footage was because it looked BAD for a PC. Maybe unimpressive was too much, but I would say the console version of Crysis 2 did not meet expectations. The expectation was that it would hands down beat every other console game it was lined up with, yet now its debateable whether or not it did beat let alone clearly beat all other consoles.

delta3074

[QUOTE="Ravensmash"][QUOTE="MajorGamer531"]

When you are fighting for 2nd best you are not king of anything.

The reason people were concerned if it was reduced quality PC or console footage was because it looked BAD for a PC. Maybe unimpressive was too much, but I would say the console version of Crysis 2 did not meet expectations. The expectation was that it would hands down beat every other console game it was lined up with, yet now its debateable whether or not it did beat let alone clearly beat all other consoles.

MajorGamer531

I know the concept of console graphics kings, but I see no point in having one. Comparing system hardware will already tell me which machine can outperform which when properly optimized, the rest is up to the game developers. There is no sense in having console graphics kings, the title is nothing but a fanboy attempt to bolster their system and parade it as a valid arguement of system superiority when for each system the title ultimately amounts to nothing in terms of value.

[QUOTE="PAL360"]

[QUOTE="killzowned24"] or that the last crysis2 console footage shown looked terrible and all content used in this thread is from pc.

1stPlaceWinner

So terrible that ppl here couldnt believe it was 360 version until it was proved. Also there is no vids of PC first person gameplay yet.

Exactly. It was how the game will look on 360, not on PC.

[QUOTE="MajorGamer531"]

[QUOTE="Ravensmash"] It's not fighting for 2nd best. Most console gamers KNOW that the PC is better graphically - thus don't bother to debate against PC titles. The PS3 and 360 however, are static hardware which are similar in power and userbase - there's comparisons between which has the best graphics. What's wrong with choosing the best looking title from games on those two platforms?! Best looking game on CONSOLES.Ravensmash

I know the concept of console graphics kings, but I see no point in having one. Comparing system hardware will already tell me which machine can outperform which when properly optimized, the rest is up to the game developers. There is no sense in having console graphics kings, the title is nothing but a fanboy attempt to bolster their system and parade it as a valid arguement of system superiority when for each system the title ultimately amounts to nothing in terms of value.

Acknowledge the game and give the developers credit for a job well done, but the fact the best looking game is X platform doesn't mean that X platform is the best platform. It is like SW keeps waiting until one console can't match the other, but by the time it gets to that point we will be onto the next consoles. Though I can tell you as a computer engineer that fully optimizing both consoles, the ps3 will come out on top just by looking at the hardware. EDIT: This is unimportant though because we will never reach the point where a game is fully optimized without having the next platform.

Hamzah,just for you my mate.3D and 2D Killzone 3 REAL shots,no bullshots,straight from capture card.Again,what so special about textures?:rolls:

And now Crysis 2...

One thing is obvious,they are not far apart like you want to make people believe ;)

Bus-A-Bus

:) He bus thx for those shots of KZ3 hadn't seen them before and they confirm that KZ3 even at this stage is a step up from KZ2.

Also do you belive the pictures of Crysis 2 you posted are from the 360 version? lol, xbox fans always seem to be getting caught up hyping multiplatform games for graphics that have a PC version and then posting pictures of the PC version to compaire it against PS3 exclusives to claim ownage, then have to go and backtrack later saying everybody already knew the 360 couldn't do that .

Like this...example

TITLE: OMG at Metro 2033 Screens

http://www.gamespot.com/pages/forums/show_msgs.php?topic_id=27088922

or maybe this thread...:o Oh wait, YOU created this one!!

TITLE: New amazing looking Splinter Cell Conviction Xbox 360 shoots

http://www.gamespot.com/pages/forums/show_msgs.php?topic_id=27220986

Also this shot (looking drastically simular to the shot you have above) was confirmed to be a PC shot of Crysis 2, what's your take?

[QUOTE="delta3074"][QUOTE="hamzah1235"] Im saying because of the applied blur on the back of the weapon models, which makes it difficult to notice the details of the incredible weapon models in KZ2 by an internet image

hamzah1235

Ive been proven wrong? :lol:. Espicially coming from the guy who said AW will be the new console graphics king :lol:. KZ3 does use global illumination, i never said it ray traces every particle effect dynamically, though you do realize the Cell is extremely, extremely good at ray tracing. I never said that MLAA was never done before, though the PS3's MLAA technique is different than the Pentium 4's MLAA technique, in which it yields higher results more efficiently. AAA on the 360 only yields MSAAx8 as far as we can see. KZ3 looks much better graphically than C2 in every regard except lighting, "Lose my attitude that Ps3 exclusives look leaps and bounds better then 360 exclusives or multiplats"...:?. Its not an attitude, its a fact that they look much betetr graphically. What articles are you talking about?

[QUOTE="1stPlaceWinner"][QUOTE="PAL360"]

So terrible that ppl here couldnt believe it was 360 version until it was proved. Also there is no vids of PC first person gameplay yet.

PAL360

Exactly. It was how the game will look on 360, not on PC.

[QUOTE="PAL360"]

[QUOTE="1stPlaceWinner"] it was pc at "360 settings"1stPlaceWinner

Exactly. It was how the game will look on 360, not on PC.

True! But why wouldnt we have high hopes?

360 already proved to be as powerfull as PS3 with games already out like Red Dead Redemption. Also Rage and Gears3 were also running on 360 at E3 and looked amazing. So again, why wouldnt Crysis2 look amazing aswell?

Delta :lol: What are you on? It means the EXACT same thing!TehNubTuber

[QUOTE="TehNubTuber"]Delta :lol: What are you on? It means the EXACT same thing!delta3074

[QUOTE="delta3074"][QUOTE="TehNubTuber"]Delta :lol: What are you on? It means the EXACT same thing!TehNubTuber

That shot of Crysis 2 that he compared to KZ3 is evidently a console shot. Either that or a downgraded PC shot : Ravensmash

:D then Crytek must have *evidently* developed a new method of AA on xbox360 the eleminates virtually all jaggies, I wonder when they will comment on their new method and technology like what Santamonica and GG did with their games??

Killzone 3s deadliest weapon:

:lol:

[QUOTE="Ravensmash"]That shot of Crysis 2 that he compared to KZ3 is evidently a console shot. Either that or a downgraded PC shot : hard_body79

:D then Crytek must have *evidently* developed a new method of AA on xbox360 the eleminates virtually all jaggies, I wonder when they will comment on their new method and technology like what Santamonica and GG did with their games??

They've also managed to enable 3D with literally a 0.3fps performance loss. It's their secret. ;) And dude, GG and Santa Monica didn't invent MLAA. -_-

[QUOTE="TehNubTuber"][QUOTE="delta3074"]no it isn't, go back to school and do english litarature, one means best looking games on console, the other means graphics ruler on consoles, which would actually refer more to technical graphics than the way a game looks, close yes, but not exactly the same thing.delta3074

[QUOTE="Ravensmash"]That shot of Crysis 2 that he compared to KZ3 is evidently a console shot. Either that or a downgraded PC shot : hard_body79

:D then Crytek must have *evidently* developed a new method of AA on xbox360 the eleminates virtually all jaggies, I wonder when they will comment on their new method and technology like what Santamonica and GG did with their games??

:D WhenCicadasCry you want to make this a presonal issue now, but I'm not going to get on that level with you. Calling people ignorant, wow really? Did i hit a nerve or something?

I was questioning if the picture posted was the 360 version of the game and you bash me like a there's no tomorrow, :shock: I THOUGHT YOU WERE A HEMET MAN??? Guess not, people seem to reveal their true identity when their feelings get involved. I'm not going to have any further disscussion with you until you learn how to be respectful.

Right now, I'm actually more excited for Killzone 3 than for Crysis 2. I know I've said this, but I strongly dislike the setting/direction they seem to be taking the game in, and until I see some proper PC footage, I'm forgoing following this game. Hopefully Crytek will change my attitude a bit, but I know I'm going to miss the jungles regardless. :(

[QUOTE="hard_body79"]

[QUOTE="Ravensmash"]That shot of Crysis 2 that he compared to KZ3 is evidently a console shot. Either that or a downgraded PC shot : WhenCicadasCry

:D then Crytek must have *evidently* developed a new method of AA on xbox360 the eleminates virtually all jaggies, I wonder when they will comment on their new method and technology like what Santamonica and GG did with their games??

They've also managed to enable 3D with literally a 0.3fps performance loss. It's their secret. ;) And dude, GG and Santa Monica didn't invent MLAA. -_-

method and technology...reading is cool but understanding what you read before making a pointless comments on it is even better :wink:

Don't remember saying anything about invinting something, but you do seem to make up alot of things.

you really need to quit, you have been proved wrong on Sooooo many things in this thread, KZ3 does NOT use global illumination like you stated, and it certainly doesn't ray trace particles, do have any idea how much RAM is required for ray tracing?, you just keep spouting utter nonsense mate, MLAA has been done on the pentium 4, years before the Ps3 came out, it's nothing special, and the 360 has it's own technique that is just as good as MLAA, crysis 2 is easily on Par with Kz3, only a blind person would think otherwise, you really need to lose your attitude that Ps3 exclusives look leaps and bounds better then 360 exclusives or multiplats, when the real truth is they are better looking but not by that much, a sensible person knows when they are licked mate, people have provided masses of articles that prove you wrong and you have ignored them, you are officially in denial my friend.delta3074

Ive been proven wrong? :lol:. Espicially coming from the guy who said AW will be the new console graphics king :lol:. KZ3 does use global illumination, i never said it ray traces every particle effect dynamically, though you do realize the Cell is extremely, extremely good at ray tracing. I never said that MLAA was never done before, though the PS3's MLAA technique is different than the Pentium 4's MLAA technique, in which it yields higher results more efficiently. AAA on the 360 only yields MSAAx8 as far as we can see. KZ3 looks much better graphically than C2 in every regard except lighting, "Lose my attitude that Ps3 exclusives look leaps and bounds better then 360 exclusives or multiplats"...:?. Its not an attitude, its a fact that they look much betetr graphically. What articles are you talking about?