What will Halo3 bring to the table that other fps games won't?

I have been wondering what Halo 3 will bring in fps market that other fps games won't because as of now I don't see anything that makes it stand out.  I have seen Haze, Turok, UT3, Killzone 2, and other fps games that are interesting in their own way but how will Halo 3 stand out when compared to the other fps games coming out in the fall?

An assload of fun more than likely.D0013ER

I don't see how it will be any more fun than some of the other fps games coming out... try to elaborate on your answer.

The question should be asked the other way around. What have other FPS bought to the table since Halo and Halo2? Answer: Not a lot really.

I have been wondering what Halo 3 will bring in fps market that other fps games won't because as of now I don't see anything that makes it stand out. I have seen Haze, Turok, UT3, Killzone 2, and other fps games that are interesting in their own way but how will Halo 3 stand out when compared to the other fps games coming out in the fall?

odin2019

What are any of those games doing to stand out? We haven't even seen any real Killzone footage. A game doesn't have to break new ground to be excellent.

[QUOTE="D0013ER"]An assload of fun more than likely.odin2019

I don't see how it will be any more fun than some of the other fps games coming out... try to elaborate on your answer.

There isn't much to elaborate on. It has a decent story, and its gameplay maintains a fun factor throughout it's entire single-player offering despite the repetative nature of the environments and enemies. I can't explain why single-player is fun, it just is. 

[QUOTE="D0013ER"]An assload of fun more than likely.odin2019

I don't see how it will be any more fun than some of the other fps games coming out... try to elaborate on your answer.

Well with the exception of a dedicated grenade button and rock-solid multiplayer Halo isn't really known for its innovation.  Halo doesn't try to bring anything new to the table, it just does what it does really, really well.

[QUOTE="odin2019"]

[QUOTE="D0013ER"]An assload of fun more than likely.D0013ER

I don't see how it will be any more fun than some of the other fps games coming out... try to elaborate on your answer.

Well with the exception of a dedicated grenade button and rock-solid multiplayer Halo isn't really known for its innovation. Halo doesn't try to bring anything new to the table, it just does what it does really, really well.

I have been wondering what Halo 3 will bring in fps market that other fps games won't because as of now I don't see anything that makes it stand out.  I have seen Haze, Turok, UT3, Killzone 2, and other fps games that are interesting in their own way but how will Halo 3 stand out when compared to the other fps games coming out in the fall?

odin2019

[QUOTE="odin2019"]

I have been wondering what Halo 3 will bring in fps market that other fps games won't because as of now I don't see anything that makes it stand out. I have seen Haze, Turok, UT3, Killzone 2, and other fps games that are interesting in their own way but how will Halo 3 stand out when compared to the other fps games coming out in the fall?

TyrantDragon55

What are any of those games doing to stand out? We haven't even seen any real Killzone footage. A game doesn't have to break new ground to be excellent.

I didn't say any of them were standing out.  Thats why I'm asking about Halo because I don't see it standing out as of now.  Based on what I have seen is that UT3 will have the best multplay online, Turok will have one of the cooler main story modes, Haze will be good without a doubt, and Killzone2... I just through that in there because it has alot of hype and is supposed to be good.

[QUOTE="D0013ER"]An assload of fun more than likely.odin2019

I don't see how it will be any more fun than some of the other fps games coming out... try to elaborate on your answer.

I know what it's bringing to the table. It's brining freaking HALO 3!!!

Dude you don't like it, don't play it. Play the other FPS's instead of adding to the millions of threads bashing Halo 3 lol 

[QUOTE="TyrantDragon55"][QUOTE="odin2019"]

I have been wondering what Halo 3 will bring in fps market that other fps games won't because as of now I don't see anything that makes it stand out. I have seen Haze, Turok, UT3, Killzone 2, and other fps games that are interesting in their own way but how will Halo 3 stand out when compared to the other fps games coming out in the fall?

odin2019

What are any of those games doing to stand out? We haven't even seen any real Killzone footage. A game doesn't have to break new ground to be excellent.

I didn't say any of them were standing out.  Thats why I'm asking about Halo because I don't see it standing out as of now.  Based on what I have seen is that UT3 will have the best multplay online, Turok will have one of the cooler main story modes, Haze will be good without a doubt, and Killzone2... I just through that in there because it has alot of hype and is supposed to be good.

The most advanced online system out there? Video recording, and editing?

Halo 3 likely won't be as great as the original, but it has a few things which others shooters don't. And FYI, Turok's going to suck. I have foreseen it.
project343

Have faith! Turok's out of Acclaim's hands so at least we're guaranteed to see something different come of it.  Whether it's for better or for worse remains to be seen. 

I didn't say Turok would blow Halo out of the water in every aspect I just think it will have the better story mode between the two games because you get to fight dinosaurs.  Seeing as games are getting more and more advanced if the AI was done well in the game they had dinosaurs that really acted like dinosaurs the game could be really challenging and interesting.  As for Halo you pretty much get the same enemies.

Well I mean if you all have not noticed Halo 3 sure as hell seems to have a hell of alot more competition this time around or maybe its me.

[QUOTE="TyrantDragon55"][QUOTE="odin2019"]

I have been wondering what Halo 3 will bring in fps market that other fps games won't because as of now I don't see anything that makes it stand out. I have seen Haze, Turok, UT3, Killzone 2, and other fps games that are interesting in their own way but how will Halo 3 stand out when compared to the other fps games coming out in the fall?

odin2019

What are any of those games doing to stand out? We haven't even seen any real Killzone footage. A game doesn't have to break new ground to be excellent.

I didn't say any of them were standing out. Thats why I'm asking about Halo because I don't see it standing out as of now. Based on what I have seen is that UT3 will have the best multplay online, Turok will have one of the cooler main story modes, Haze will be good without a doubt, and Killzone2... I just through that in there because it has alot of hype and is supposed to be good.

That's the great thing about the Halo series IMO, it does everything really well, not just one thing.

I didn't say Turok would blow Halo out of the water in every aspect I just think it will have the better story mode between the two games because you get to fight dinosaurs. Seeing as games are getting more and more advanced if the AI was done well in the game they had dinosaurs that really acted like dinosaurs the game could be really challenging and interesting. As for Halo you pretty much get the same enemies.odin2019

Let's just not rule Halo 3 out just yet.  We really don't know much about the game other than what Bungie has chosen to show us. 

[QUOTE="odin2019"][QUOTE="TyrantDragon55"][QUOTE="odin2019"]

I have been wondering what Halo 3 will bring in fps market that other fps games won't because as of now I don't see anything that makes it stand out. I have seen Haze, Turok, UT3, Killzone 2, and other fps games that are interesting in their own way but how will Halo 3 stand out when compared to the other fps games coming out in the fall?

swaginator

What are any of those games doing to stand out? We haven't even seen any real Killzone footage. A game doesn't have to break new ground to be excellent.

I didn't say any of them were standing out.  Thats why I'm asking about Halo because I don't see it standing out as of now.  Based on what I have seen is that UT3 will have the best multplay online, Turok will have one of the cooler main story modes, Haze will be good without a doubt, and Killzone2... I just through that in there because it has alot of hype and is supposed to be good.

That's the great thing about the Halo series IMO, it does everything really well, not just one thing.

TyrantDragon55

Well said, which is why I love this franchise. Or atleast the FPS version of it. I wont be getting Halo Wars 

[QUOTE="TyrantDragon55"][QUOTE="odin2019"]

I have been wondering what Halo 3 will bring in fps market that other fps games won't because as of now I don't see anything that makes it stand out. I have seen Haze, Turok, UT3, Killzone 2, and other fps games that are interesting in their own way but how will Halo 3 stand out when compared to the other fps games coming out in the fall?

odin2019

What are any of those games doing to stand out? We haven't even seen any real Killzone footage. A game doesn't have to break new ground to be excellent.

I didn't any of them were standing out.  Thats why I'm asking about Halo because I don't see it standing out as of now.  Based on what I have seen is that UT3 will have the best multplay online, Turok will have one of the cooler main story modes, Haze will be good without a doubt, and Killzone2... I just through that in there because it has alot of hype and is supposed to be good.

Ok then, What will KZ2 do to stand out? What will Turok do to stand out from its N64 counterparts? All Halo 3 was meant to do was end a trilogy and be a damn good game... not innovate on the genre. If you ask me, Halo is the least of the FPS coming out this year that has got something to prove. Halo CE did nothing knew yet everyone praised it, I really dont see your point in this thread other than to annoy. Theres nothing you can say about Halos impression on yourself and it be fact.. so if your trying to somehow pursade others then you are failing, horribly.

[QUOTE="odin2019"][QUOTE="TyrantDragon55"][QUOTE="odin2019"]

I have been wondering what Halo 3 will bring in fps market that other fps games won't because as of now I don't see anything that makes it stand out. I have seen Haze, Turok, UT3, Killzone 2, and other fps games that are interesting in their own way but how will Halo 3 stand out when compared to the other fps games coming out in the fall?

Pro_wrestler

What are any of those games doing to stand out? We haven't even seen any real Killzone footage. A game doesn't have to break new ground to be excellent.

I didn't any of them were standing out. Thats why I'm asking about Halo because I don't see it standing out as of now. Based on what I have seen is that UT3 will have the best multplay online, Turok will have one of the cooler main story modes, Haze will be good without a doubt, and Killzone2... I just through that in there because it has alot of hype and is supposed to be good.

Ok then, What will KZ2 do to stand out? What will Turok do to stand out from its N64 counterparts? All Halo 3 was meant to do was end a trilogy and be a damn good game... not innovate on the genre. If you ask me, Halo is the least of the FPS coming out this year that has got something to prove. Halo CE did nothing knew yet everyone praised it, I really dont see your point in this thread other than to annoy. Theres nothing you can say about Halos impression on yourself and it be fact.. so if your trying to somehow pursade others then you are failing, horribly.

Yup, that's what this thread is for. Similar to the Halo is a Tribes rip off thread. Just people trying to find ways to bash Halo cause it's popular and they dislike it or cause they're system doesn't have it so they automatically have to hate. It's rather sad.

Games, movies, music even doesn't have to be innovating to be amazing. I mean there are songs that come out now that use the song chords used a million times but it can be a million times more better then those millions of songs.

It's how you use the elements that makes you good not innovation. I mean the virtual boy was innovative but was it good? No. It's how you do something and how you package your game overall that matters and Halo has been an overall well packaged game IMO for 1 and 2 and 3 will be no different 

Oh and since this is MS I guess you can count on them releasing new maps for online multiplayer and all but that will be an extra $5 8itch. Or maybe they will do the right thing and make it free but somehow you can't be too sure of any thing after all the Gears maps cost money right?odin2019

The 4 new maps cost 10 dollars right now, but after september 3rd they're free. It was the same thing with the Halo 2 maps. 

Halo 3 so far looks and plays just like Halo 2,what the hell are bungie doing, sleeping on the job. Don't bungie know they have millions of fans wanting Halo 3 to look as good as GeOW, I mean obviously the gameplay is not gonna be much different to Halo 2 so they should really spruce up those graphics because so far they look like dog sh**

[QUOTE="odin2019"][QUOTE="TyrantDragon55"][QUOTE="odin2019"]

I have been wondering what Halo 3 will bring in fps market that other fps games won't because as of now I don't see anything that makes it stand out. I have seen Haze, Turok, UT3, Killzone 2, and other fps games that are interesting in their own way but how will Halo 3 stand out when compared to the other fps games coming out in the fall?

Pro_wrestler

What are any of those games doing to stand out? We haven't even seen any real Killzone footage. A game doesn't have to break new ground to be excellent.

I didn't any of them were standing out.  Thats why I'm asking about Halo because I don't see it standing out as of now.  Based on what I have seen is that UT3 will have the best multplay online, Turok will have one of the cooler main story modes, Haze will be good without a doubt, and Killzone2... I just through that in there because it has alot of hype and is supposed to be good.

Ok then, What will KZ2 do to stand out? What will Turok do to stand out from its N64 counterparts? All Halo 3 was meant to do was end a trilogy and be a damn good game... not innovate on the genre. If you ask me, Halo is the least of the FPS coming out this year that has got something to prove. Halo CE did nothing knew yet everyone praised it, I really dont see your point in this thread other than to annoy. Theres nothing you can say about Halos impression on yourself and it be fact.. so if your trying to somehow pursade others then you are failing, horribly.

Why wouldn't you want Halo to be innovative even if it is the third game?  Thats what big game titles are all about is what is that you are bringing to the table this time around that was better and over the top than what you brought last time.  As for Killzone 2 well I don't know too much about it except that they are spending tons of money to make the game supposively they have a huge development team working on it but if the game sucks and doesn't live up the hype I won't buy it.  I will just buy Haze or UT3 then.

Oh and since this is MS I guess you can count on them releasing new maps for online multiplayer and all but that will be an extra $5 8itch. Or maybe they will do the right thing and make it free but somehow you can't be too sure of any thing after all the Gears maps cost money right?odin2019

They will be free months from now just like the Gears one and the other Halo 2 maps that are now free 

[QUOTE="Pro_wrestler"][QUOTE="odin2019"][QUOTE="TyrantDragon55"][QUOTE="odin2019"]

I have been wondering what Halo 3 will bring in fps market that other fps games won't because as of now I don't see anything that makes it stand out. I have seen Haze, Turok, UT3, Killzone 2, and other fps games that are interesting in their own way but how will Halo 3 stand out when compared to the other fps games coming out in the fall?

kcpp2b

What are any of those games doing to stand out? We haven't even seen any real Killzone footage. A game doesn't have to break new ground to be excellent.

I didn't any of them were standing out. Thats why I'm asking about Halo because I don't see it standing out as of now. Based on what I have seen is that UT3 will have the best multplay online, Turok will have one of the cooler main story modes, Haze will be good without a doubt, and Killzone2... I just through that in there because it has alot of hype and is supposed to be good.

Ok then, What will KZ2 do to stand out? What will Turok do to stand out from its N64 counterparts? All Halo 3 was meant to do was end a trilogy and be a damn good game... not innovate on the genre. If you ask me, Halo is the least of the FPS coming out this year that has got something to prove. Halo CE did nothing knew yet everyone praised it, I really dont see your point in this thread other than to annoy. Theres nothing you can say about Halos impression on yourself and it be fact.. so if your trying to somehow pursade others then you are failing, horribly.

Yup, that's what this thread is for. Similar to the Halo is a Tribes rip off thread. Just people trying to find ways to bash Halo cause it's popular and they dislike it or cause they're system doesn't have it so they automatically have to hate. It's rather sad.

Games, movies, music even doesn't have to be innovating to be amazing. I mean there are songs that come out now that use the song chords used a million times but it can be a million times more better then those millions of songs.

It's how you use the elements that makes you good not innovation. I mean the virtual boy was innovative but was it good? No. It's how you do something and how you package your game overall that matters and Halo has been an overall well packaged game IMO for 1 and 2 and 3 will be no different 

I'm not really bashing the game though I'm just stating the obivious facts up to this point that the game isn't bring anything to the fps genre this time around based on what I have seen.  If you find that insulting well I can't really help on that because I'm just talking about the reality of the situation.

Sounds like a bunch of 360 fans making love to each other. The man ask what will Halo bring to the table, and you guys can say is...Halo? Ask yourself what will Halo 3 bring that Halo 2 doesn't have? I myself would like a great answer to this as well. Remember MGS 3 was knocked because it had the same thing as MGS2, but with a better story...shungokustasu

I thought MGS3 was not the same as MGS4.

Anywho it's obvious the TC is trying to bash Halo as are you.

As long as the campaign is longer and with more bigger battles and a big last boss fight with great online I'm fine. I dont care about the BS in this thread about having to innovate or whatever.

And if you have to ask what Halo brings to the table you aren't a fan of the series so it won't matter what we say. And you yourself  are a PS fanboy so I wouldn't bother explaining how amazing Halo is to someone like you 

Why wouldn't you want Halo to be innovative even if it is the third game? Thats what big game titles are all about is what is that you are bringing to the table this time around that was better and over the top than what you brought last time. As for Killzone 2 well I don't know too much about it except that they are spending tons of money to make the game supposively they have a huge development team working on it but if the game sucks and doesn't live up the hype I won't buy it. I will just buy Haze or UT3 then.

odin2019

So you really mean what new features does Halo 3 have over Halo 1 and 2? Well for starters Halo 3 has equipment like trip mines, the bubble shield, and an EMP. There's also a more simplified ranking system, along with a redone control scheme, replays at the end of each match, and your character's second weapon is now always visible to your enemies, meaning you can no longer conceal that you're carrying a huge plasma sword or rocket launcher. There's also the usual better graphics, more weapons and vehicles, new maps, retooled/balanced older weapons, the return of the Assualt Rifle and Scoped Pistol from Halo 1.

[QUOTE="Pro_wrestler"][QUOTE="odin2019"][QUOTE="TyrantDragon55"][QUOTE="odin2019"]

I have been wondering what Halo 3 will bring in fps market that other fps games won't because as of now I don't see anything that makes it stand out. I have seen Haze, Turok, UT3, Killzone 2, and other fps games that are interesting in their own way but how will Halo 3 stand out when compared to the other fps games coming out in the fall?

odin2019

What are any of those games doing to stand out? We haven't even seen any real Killzone footage. A game doesn't have to break new ground to be excellent.

I didn't any of them were standing out.  Thats why I'm asking about Halo because I don't see it standing out as of now.  Based on what I have seen is that UT3 will have the best multplay online, Turok will have one of the cooler main story modes, Haze will be good without a doubt, and Killzone2... I just through that in there because it has alot of hype and is supposed to be good.

Ok then, What will KZ2 do to stand out? What will Turok do to stand out from its N64 counterparts? All Halo 3 was meant to do was end a trilogy and be a damn good game... not innovate on the genre. If you ask me, Halo is the least of the FPS coming out this year that has got something to prove. Halo CE did nothing knew yet everyone praised it, I really dont see your point in this thread other than to annoy. Theres nothing you can say about Halos impression on yourself and it be fact.. so if your trying to somehow pursade others then you are failing, horribly.

Why wouldn't you want Halo to be innovative even if it is the third game?  Thats what big game titles are all about is what is that you are bringing to the table this time around that was better and over the top than what you brought last time.  As for Killzone 2 well I don't know too much about it except that they are spending tons of money to make the game supposively they have a huge development team working on it but if the game sucks and doesn't live up the hype I won't buy it.  I will just buy Haze or UT3 then.

So.. Did we come to an answer?

halo is good because it's halo is that it? so far people has just bashed the one's saying it's not going to be the second (or maybe third :P) coming.

Can anyone explain to me why halo 3 will be better than halo 2 without out all TEH HALO'ZOR!!!!one speak please? I'm just curious that's all

*this is not a bash, but I guess people without an answer for why it'll be better will see it as one. :)

Sounds like a bunch of 360 fans making love to each other. The man ask what will Halo bring to the table, and you guys can say is...Halo? Ask yourself what will Halo 3 bring that Halo 2 doesn't have? I myself would like a great answer to this as well. Remember MGS 3 was knocked because it had the same thing as MGS2, but with a better story...shungokustasu

I'm not really bashing the game though I'm just stating the obivious facts up to this point that the game isn't bring anything to the fps genre this time around based on what I have seen. If you find that insulting well I can't really help on that because I'm just talking about the reality of the situation.

odin2019

Again it's all in how you do something. There have been millions of superhero movies where the good guy lives like in Spiderman or Batman begins but it's just in how do the film. It's how good all the elements are not just a few. Like the action, the characters, the actors for each role the director. Halo has great action, amazing controls thay many people look now as standard and base off of for other games, great vehicles that are fun to operate and easy to control, the online is still being played to this day and is love even though I prefer more of COD3 or COD2 online but to each his own, and energy shield and waiting for cover for it to come back or the health in part one has been done before but it's done great in Halo.

But if you want to talk about reality...here's some reality. You're trying to annoy people and do another thread among hundreds asking what's so great about Halo. 

[QUOTE="odin2019"]

Why wouldn't you want Halo to be innovative even if it is the third game? Thats what big game titles are all about is what is that you are bringing to the table this time around that was better and over the top than what you brought last time. As for Killzone 2 well I don't know too much about it except that they are spending tons of money to make the game supposively they have a huge development team working on it but if the game sucks and doesn't live up the hype I won't buy it. I will just buy Haze or UT3 then.

TyrantDragon55

So you really mean what new features does Halo 3 have over Halo 1 and 2? Well for starters Halo 3 has equipment like trip mines, the bubble shield, and an EMP. There's also a more simplified ranking system, along with a redone control scheme, replays at the end of each match, and your character's second weapon is now always visible to your enemies, meaning you can no longer conceal that you're carrying a huge plasma sword or rocket launcher. There's also the usual better graphics, more weapons and vehicles, new maps, retooled/balanced older weapons, the return of the Assualt Rifle and Scoped Pistol from Halo 1.

This is pretty interesting but how exactly will you be able to see the replays at the end of each match?  That sounded pretty cool.  Will Halo 3 have a mapmaker?  Has any Halo game had a mapmaker?

I know in Timesplitters Future Perfect there is a mapmaker really its one of the coolest parts about the game its just there are only like 5 or 6 settings for it.

After Halo...

Co-op was brought into the mainstream. Vehicles in FPSs started to 'work' (why didn't anyone do it after Tribes? But UT2k4 and HL2 had vehicles as a significant factor) elsewhere. Health systems started changing from the 100 to zero thing. Even after Halo 2 there wasn't even a proper health system, but a "lay low and recover" period (Call of Duty 2, Gear). Two weapon/limited weapon systems started appearing in a lot of FPSs other than tactical shooters (Gears, and some others I can't think of right now. Brute Force! :lol: ).

And damn.... after Halo 2, almost all games need a limited edition version.

[QUOTE="TyrantDragon55"][QUOTE="odin2019"]

Why wouldn't you want Halo to be innovative even if it is the third game? Thats what big game titles are all about is what is that you are bringing to the table this time around that was better and over the top than what you brought last time. As for Killzone 2 well I don't know too much about it except that they are spending tons of money to make the game supposively they have a huge development team working on it but if the game sucks and doesn't live up the hype I won't buy it. I will just buy Haze or UT3 then.

odin2019

So you really mean what new features does Halo 3 have over Halo 1 and 2? Well for starters Halo 3 has equipment like trip mines, the bubble shield, and an EMP. There's also a more simplified ranking system, along with a redone control scheme, replays at the end of each match, and your character's second weapon is now always visible to your enemies, meaning you can no longer conceal that you're carrying a huge plasma sword or rocket launcher. There's also the usual better graphics, more weapons and vehicles, new maps, retooled/balanced older weapons, the return of the Assualt Rifle and Scoped Pistol from Halo 1.

This is pretty interesting but how exactly will you be able to see the replays at the end of each match?  That sounded pretty cool.  Will Halo 3 have a mapmaker?  Has any Halo game had a mapmaker?

[QUOTE="TyrantDragon55"][QUOTE="odin2019"]

Why wouldn't you want Halo to be innovative even if it is the third game? Thats what big game titles are all about is what is that you are bringing to the table this time around that was better and over the top than what you brought last time. As for Killzone 2 well I don't know too much about it except that they are spending tons of money to make the game supposively they have a huge development team working on it but if the game sucks and doesn't live up the hype I won't buy it. I will just buy Haze or UT3 then.

odin2019

So you really mean what new features does Halo 3 have over Halo 1 and 2? Well for starters Halo 3 has equipment like trip mines, the bubble shield, and an EMP. There's also a more simplified ranking system, along with a redone control scheme, replays at the end of each match, and your character's second weapon is now always visible to your enemies, meaning you can no longer conceal that you're carrying a huge plasma sword or rocket launcher. There's also the usual better graphics, more weapons and vehicles, new maps, retooled/balanced older weapons, the return of the Assualt Rifle and Scoped Pistol from Halo 1.

This is pretty interesting but how exactly will you be able to see the replays at the end of each match? That sounded pretty cool. Will Halo 3 have a mapmaker? Has any Halo game had a mapmaker?

I would assume it works in some kind of lobby system. Plus I think it's possible to pull up videos of previous matches, but I'm not sure. Halo 2 vista is supposed to have a mapmaker, not sure if it will make it into Halo 3 though. The truth is we really don't know very much about Halo 3 right now, Bungie is being extremely secretive about it. 

[QUOTE="odin2019"]

Why wouldn't you want Halo to be innovative even if it is the third game? Thats what big game titles are all about is what is that you are bringing to the table this time around that was better and over the top than what you brought last time. As for Killzone 2 well I don't know too much about it except that they are spending tons of money to make the game supposively they have a huge development team working on it but if the game sucks and doesn't live up the hype I won't buy it. I will just buy Haze or UT3 then.

TyrantDragon55

So you really mean what new features does Halo 3 have over Halo 1 and 2? Well for starters Halo 3 has equipment like trip mines, the bubble shield, and an EMP. There's also a more simplified ranking system, along with a redone control scheme, replays at the end of each match, and your character's second weapon is now always visible to your enemies, meaning you can no longer conceal that you're carrying a huge plasma sword or rocket launcher. There's also the usual better graphics, more weapons and vehicles, new maps, retooled/balanced older weapons, the return of the Assualt Rifle and Scoped Pistol from Halo 1.

Great post! a well thought out argument that answer the mans question. Unlike some poster who just quickly excuses people of fanboyism. Thank You so much for showing the example of how to answer someone question. I just hope the name callers take heed to what you did. 

The same thing Halo 1 and 2 brought to the table. Better gameplay.

To this date there is still no console shooter that has outscored or even matched Halo CE.

After Halo...

Co-op was brought into the mainstream. Vehicles in FPSs started to 'work' (why didn't anyone do it after Tribes? But UT2k4 and HL2 had vehicles as a significant factor) elsewhere. Health systems started changing from the 100 to zero thing. Even after Halo 2 there wasn't even a proper health system, but a "lay low and recover" period (Call of Duty 2, Gear). Two weapon/limited weapon systems started appearing in a lot of FPSs other than tactical shooters (Gears, and some others I can't think of right now. Brute Force! :lol: ).

And damn.... after Halo 2, almost all games need a limited edition version.

Liquid_47

Great examples... Halo made co-op in shooters mainstream, as it did with it's Health system among other things... I guess to people who bash it like it this thread must hate many bands and artists who were influenced by other groups heavily like Nirvana for example or directors like Quentin Tarintino. It's all about how you do something and how you put it together not about finding new things to innovate a genre. People who do that are people come up with gimmicks. Like the virtual boy like Isaid earlier or the power glove. I just want good gaming not gimmicks. And if someone happens to discover the next big thing like how bullet time in the matrix and wire work was made popular from that film that's fine... or if someone does the cover system in gears of war (which was done before) and makes it better and does it better in that game or rainbow six that's fine too 

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Why wouldn't you want Halo to be innovative even if it is the third game? Thats what big game titles are all about is what is that you are bringing to the table this time around that was better and over the top than what you brought last time. As for Killzone 2 well I don't know too much about it except that they are spending tons of money to make the game supposively they have a huge development team working on it but if the game sucks and doesn't live up the hype I won't buy it. I will just buy Haze or UT3 then.

TyrantDragon55

So you really mean what new features does Halo 3 have over Halo 1 and 2? Well for starters Halo 3 has equipment like trip mines, the bubble shield, and an EMP. There's also a more simplified ranking system, along with a redone control scheme, replays at the end of each match, and your character's second weapon is now always visible to your enemies, meaning you can no longer conceal that you're carrying a huge plasma sword or rocket launcher. There's also the usual better graphics, more weapons and vehicles, new maps, retooled/balanced older weapons, the return of the Assualt Rifle and Scoped Pistol from Halo 1.

This is pretty interesting but how exactly will you be able to see the replays at the end of each match? That sounded pretty cool. Will Halo 3 have a mapmaker? Has any Halo game had a mapmaker?

I would assume it works in some kind of lobby system. Plus I think it's possible to pull up videos of previous matches, but I'm not sure. Halo 2 vista is supposed to have a mapmaker, not sure if it will make it into Halo 3 though. The truth is we really don't know very much about Halo 3 right now, Bungie is being extremely secretive about it. 

Crysis is going to bring far more to the table in terms of gameplay than Halo 3 could ever hope to.

If you do not believe me... read this.foxhound_fox

I think we need to start putting this game in its own category.