Whats So Special About Dark Souls?

[QUOTE="BrunoBRS"][QUOTE="savagetwinkie"] thats not so much of a challenge as it is a massive waste of time, you've already gotten by all those other enemies, its not difficult t odo it again and again again until you figure out how to get by the next set of enemies.ianuilliam

Finally making some progress. The Gaping Dragon is so much easier than the other bosses and he dropped 25000! Capra Demon - so much harder for 1500 ... :/

On another note, I'm very worried, because one of the merchants ran out of curse removal ...

Dark Souls is very unique and loved for it's challenging yet very satisfying gameplay, the combat mechanics are just flawless, if you die it's your fault and that's why it's very frustrating for people since they can't blame the game for that, however, win a fierce battle and the amount of satisfaction you get is huge because you knew that you beat a gigantic and strong beast with your weak character that could get killed instantly in one attack.

I hate Tetris. Its a terrible game. Just stupid falling blocks, its just too hard and there aren't any save points! Why can't Tetris get with the times? I want it fast, and I don't want to think about how to place the blocks. Blocks should just gradually disappear if I place them wrong after a few seconds. The game just artificially lengthens itself by doing the same thing over and over with the levels. People that don't agree with my opinion are stupid poopy faces and I can't be convinced otherwise.mbrockway

LOL. Good summary of the subject ...

I hated Demon's Souls. I love some RPGs (100+ hours in some), but hated that game. It had some to do that it was hard to play. Dragon Age's combat took some getting used to me, but I got it down quick and loved that game. Demon's Souls had very little story. I didn't like the "portal" system of the world either. I will admit, I didn't feel the combat to be cheap. I feel that the point of the game is for you to endlessly die and rinse and repeat. That was the point of Super Mario 3 too, and thats one of my fav's of all time. You wanna say SMB3 can't compete with the difficulty in DS I suggest you go beat the game right now and come back to me. SMB was fun in between the frustrating, and I didn't get that at all in DS. I know I am compairing to differant genre's here in an "RPG" and a platformer. However I feel DS is more action/adventure with RPG elements then a real RPG anyways. I will also say the online aspect to DS was cool.

I hated Demon's Souls. I love some RPGs (100+ hours in some), but hated that game. It had some to do that it was hard to play. Dragon Age's combat took some getting used to me, but I got it down quick and loved that game. Demon's Souls had very little story. I didn't like the "portal" system of the world either. I will admit, I didn't feel the combat to be cheap. I feel that the point of the game is for you to endlessly die and rinse and repeat. That was the point of Super Mario 3 too, and thats one of my fav's of all time. You wanna say SMB3 can't compete with the difficulty in DS I suggest you go beat the game right now and come back to me. SMB was fun in between the frustrating, and I didn't get that at all in DS. I know I am compairing to differant genre's here in an "RPG" and a platformer. However I feel DS is more action/adventure with RPG elements then a real RPG anyways. I will also say the online aspect to DS was cool.

SpideR_CentS

[QUOTE="Bread_or_Decide"][QUOTE="princeofshapeir"]I like games that are challenging, but I don't like games that punish you incessantly for dying. princeofshapeir

It's a means of forcing you to play durations of the game without dying. It makes accomplishments more meaningful.

[QUOTE="princeofshapeir"][QUOTE="Bread_or_Decide"] It doesn't. hakanakumono

It's a means of forcing you to play durations of the game without dying. It makes accomplishments more meaningful.

one of the best games this gen for me go for it to bad dont sell good enoughCTR360

Interesting how Dark Souls gets hated on because it tries to be different. All these cod-gen gamers want is samey cut and paste experiences out of their games. It's kind of sad.

Interesting how Dark Souls gets hated on because it tries to be different. All these cod-gen gamers want is samey cut and paste experiences out of their games. It's kind of sad.

Crossel777

As somebody who bought and played and disliked Demon's Souls, the game isn't hard. The game requires lots and lots of memorization, which is pretty much the easiest type of gameplay in existence. But, the memorization sections have cheap deaths scattered all through them, and I got tired of having a boulder dropping down the stairs when I was halfway up with no way to dodge in time, roll and drop back to the right side of the stairs. I've done this a few times but it's a bit tricky, there are frequent messages before that part that warn you as well..I write one everytime I pass there. :P or red-eye skeletons swarming from the darkness to two-shot me, Not sure which part this is, but usually the very tough red-eye skeletons don't appear unless the world tendency is pure black...which means that you died a lot in body form. You'll have to hunt down primeval demon's and specific characters or bosses to raise the world tendency. The best way to engage the katana skeletons is to divide and conquer. Let them leap forward then backstab them repetitively when they try to get up. or falling to my death from a 10-foot drop that looked easily survivable. Don't remember this part..What 10 foot fall? Are you refering to the shortcut in 2-2? You definitively can survive more than 10 ft...there are messages that help you with where to fall as well. With no story to follow, no party characters to engage, and no real combat strategy to speak of, Ok I have to call you out on this, there is loads of combat strategy (even more so in NG+ where you really die in 1-2 hits), just read PvP guides. I don't want to sound like a jerk but I think your own stoicism combined with the poor results of said attitude + the rage are clouding your judgement. I got about halfway through the game when i realized that I wasn't having fun. I play games to have fun, not to feel like I'm beating my head against a wall. It's your opinion and I respect that. However, there really is no need to come up and pretend that your experiences are the only valid ones. If you didn't have fun, then 2 things are possible: 1- You can't wrap your mind around this game for various reasons, so it feels like a chore. 2-You are playing the game wrong, and it punishes you for it.

Me personally, I started out dying quite a bit. However gradually I started to improvise little by little, gather informations from wikis, upgrade my weapons, collect the items and use them as I should, and when it resulted in victory it was a glorious feeling. There truly are parts where I nerdraged hard, but I never gave up no matter what. That allowed me to sink into it and enjoy the direction of the game for what it is. Had I given up midway, I would not have enjoy'd it nearly as much.

I don't think it would be good if every single game on the market was like Demon's Souls, but it was a pretty good experience overall, it did get some extra praise for being fresh but I didn't care for that as much.

The story is not the driveforce of the game's progress, but I feel that it didn't really need to be. The themes that the developpers wanted to get across are well expressed. (Greed, vanity and despair of the King is what drove everything wrong, the pride, the lust for power, the redemption, World 5 had something about faith vs pragmatism, very sad final boss...only boss that I actually felt bad when I won). It could have benefited from a bigger story, but when it comes down to it, I feel that it wasn't that big of a loss. In fact I'd rather the devs spend time on making bigger dungeons rather than the story if I was management :P

PeaceGreyfeld

[QUOTE="Crossel777"]

Interesting how Dark Souls gets hated on because it tries to be different. All these cod-gen gamers want is samey cut and paste experiences out of their games. It's kind of sad.

Advid-Gamer

One of the best games I have ever played, games like this give me hope that gaming will eventually be up to standard again, if you love games that are rich in atmosphere, non-linear, not dumbed down, can't be finished within 3 hours, immersing and extremely entertaining in areas that have been missing in gaming for ages then I would recommend this to you, finally a modern game that isn't a rail-way shooter that holds your hand from beginning till end. Prepare to Die!

It is a modern game built like old school games.

It resembles roguelikes alot, it is slow and methdical, and relys on the players own abilities and ability to learn patterns, an sense dangers.

It is a far cry from the modern games, with thier over the top excessive handholding, and completely removal of difficulty.

Apart from a few techincal hitches sofar, the times you die are less frustrating to me because I somehow felt that it was me who messed up, and not just the game being cheap (altho I heard there are a few cheap moments in there).

So basicly it is a game which brings back the hardcore in games, a game that is made for the sake of people who enjoys challange, and a world in which its own logic is rarely comprimised or dismissed.

It basicly is a really good game :P

Just... stay away from it, if you are too used to this gen and its nearly retarted savepoints, and shielding of the player.(I can not stress how big a grin I had on my face when I first died (not very far in) soley due to me feeling that this felt like the good old days, where games were made to challange you, NOT to be a saterday morning cartoon. (Ironically what I can say is most similar to Deamon souls, are the old mega man games, in that reguard, expertly made, hard but not unfair, and controls that felt right. I love how you need to learn your weapons, how fast they are, and how they impact.

[QUOTE="Crossel777"]

Interesting how Dark Souls gets hated on because it tries to be different. All these cod-gen gamers want is samey cut and paste experiences out of their games. It's kind of sad.

Advid-Gamer

You can't even mention CoD/Battlefield 3 in the same sentence as Dark Souls. Dark Souls is a game that actually has atmosphere and is made by people who are passionate about their work, CoD is just about milking money off consumers who are willing to buy the same game every year