What's wrong with MGS4?

[QUOTE="Videodogg"]

story?...what story? I could not tell you what the plot was on any Metal Gear game. Also, the stealth game-play never grabbed my attention. Just not a fan.

princeofshapeir

It is not the understanding of the story that is the problem, it's the fact that its awful and broken beyond belief, only a fool would actually be happy when big boss showed up at the end of MGS4.

[QUOTE="princeofshapeir"][QUOTE="Videodogg"]

story?...what story? I could not tell you what the plot was on any Metal Gear game. Also, the stealth game-play never grabbed my attention. Just not a fan.

dawso0n

It is not the understanding of the story that is the problem, it's the fact that its awful and broken beyond belief, only a fool would actually be happy when big boss showed up at the end of MGS4.

[QUOTE="princeofshapeir"][QUOTE="Videodogg"]

story?...what story? I could not tell you what the plot was on any Metal Gear game. Also, the stealth game-play never grabbed my attention. Just not a fan.

dawso0n

It is not the understanding of the story that is the problem, it's the fact that its awful and broken beyond belief, only a fool would actually be happy when big boss showed up at the end of MGS4.

becauses its a crap 'game'. got great critical reviews for the story and cutscenes.. unfortunately most people care more about gameplay.. and it kinda sucked for gameplay.. and personally i think the story sucked too... but thats just me.

MGS4 is solid crap and not much of a video game. Just watching 5 minutes of it is enough to make you not want to touch another MGS game ever again.

Saying that MGS has too many cut scenes is like saying mario has too much platforming. Who here plays MGS for JUST the gameplay?

Republican11

I bolded a specific word. Now re-read your posts and figure out what you did wrong.

Also, i thought SW adored this game, yet I see so much hate in this thread? The Sony Defense Force must be asleep.

It's a PS3 exclusive.

Received a perfect 10 on GS.

So a lot of "PS3 owners" were "dissappointed" when they "played" MGS4.

Gxgear

The only problem I had were the cutscenes. The story is told through long cutscenes, if I skip the cutscenes I miss most of the story. In the end I did skip most of the cutscenes, and I had no idea what was going on. Besides that it was a great game.

The problem is that it is the only AAAAE this gen and people cannot accept thatargryqwe

...Or maybe people have legitimate complaints with this game?

What's wrong with MGS 4? Nothing. It was awesome.

It's great. Just the WORST MGS in my opinion.

Best MGS is between MGS2 and 3. 3 had some of my favorite boss battles.

Whats wrong with MGS4? Nothing? :? well, maybe some cutscenes are a bit lengthy, but it is a superb game

A lot of people really don't understand that MGS4's cutscenes are as much a part of the gameplay as anything else. Unlike other games, they actually motivate you to complete objectives. The cutscenes are also the best-acted, most well-choreographed in all of gaming - no other video game in existence can top MGS4 or the entire MGS series in terms of raw storytelling mixed with compelling and nuanced gameplay. You can quote me on that.princeofshapeir

[QUOTE="princeofshapeir"]A lot of people really don't understand that MGS4's cutscenes are as much a part of the gameplay as anything else. Unlike other games, they actually motivate you to complete objectives. The cutscenes are also the best-acted, most well-choreographed in all of gaming - no other video game in existence can top MGS4 or the entire MGS series in terms of raw storytelling mixed with compelling and nuanced gameplay. You can quote me on that.teh_shogun

MGS3's radio conversations were absolutely terrible. I understand it's the '60's, and there was no Codec back then, but half the time I got so bored that I just skipped them altogether.

Framerate, cutscenes are too long, story not that interesting, graphics overrated x 10, the controls felt awkward.

A lot of people really don't understand that MGS4's cutscenes are as much a part of the gameplay as anything else. Unlike other games, they actually motivate you to complete objectives. The cutscenes are also the best-acted, most well-choreographed in all of gaming - no other video game in existence can top MGS4 or the entire MGS series in terms of raw storytelling mixed with compelling and nuanced gameplay. You can quote me on that.princeofshapeir

I haven't played 3 or 4 yet,so maybe I should wait until I play them before speaking any further about the series,but MGS2 and (to a lesser extent) MGS1 have some of the most forced narratives I've come across.They each had great gameplay,and some nice cutscenes,but they could have easily cut out a lot of the redundant dialogue and ridiculous density of cutscenes,especially with MGS2.When it boils right down to it,I want to get to the gameplay and real interaction,not a one-to-one ratio of gameplay to cutscenes (which is very much true with MGS2).Yeah,cutscenes are part of what define MGS,and everyone knows it,but there's a limit to everything.

I think an excerpt from Yahtzee fits the bill nicely.

"Somebody once said that a politician is a person who can talk for hours and not actually say anything.If that's true, Hideo Kojima could run for government and be emperor of the Universe by mid-afternoon.

Metal Gear Solid is an award winning game series, and for good reason. The only way to make it look bad is if people nitpick the game.

The cut scenes are not a problem, there is tons of gameplay in MGS4 a lot more than most games this gen and that's without the cute scenes. You can hate it, dislike it. But saying MGS4 is trash or horrible or anything like that is just wrong. The game is a masterpiece in every way.

[QUOTE="argryqwe"]The problem is that it is the only AAAAE this gen and people cannot accept thatVGobbsesser

...Or maybe people have legitimate complaints with this game?

[QUOTE="VGobbsesser"]

[QUOTE="argryqwe"]The problem is that it is the only AAAAE this gen and people cannot accept thatMGS4_GOAT

...Or maybe people have legitimate complaints with this game?

The problem with MGS4 is it's too good. Made all other games feel really dull for a good while.

The problem with MGS4 is it's too good. Made all other games feel really dull for a good while.

Eddie-Vedder

MGS4 is an awe-inspiring synthesis of entertaining cinematic gameplay and dramatic storytelling. IF that can't keep your attention you're better off playing your call of dudies and halozMGS4_GOAT

An excerpt from the Gamespot review proves nothing.:| That's the opinion of the reviewer,and not everyone has to or will agree agree with it.

[QUOTE="MGS4_GOAT"] MGS4 is an awe-inspiring synthesis of entertaining cinematic gameplay and dramatic storytelling. IF that can't keep your attention you're better off playing your call of dudies and halozVGobbsesser

An excerpt from the Gamespot review proves nothing.:| That's the opinion of the reviewer,and not everyone has to or will agree agree with it.

[QUOTE="teh_shogun"]

[QUOTE="princeofshapeir"]A lot of people really don't understand that MGS4's cutscenes are as much a part of the gameplay as anything else. Unlike other games, they actually motivate you to complete objectives. The cutscenes are also the best-acted, most well-choreographed in all of gaming - no other video game in existence can top MGS4 or the entire MGS series in terms of raw storytelling mixed with compelling and nuanced gameplay. You can quote me on that.princeofshapeir

MGS3's radio conversations were absolutely terrible. I understand it's the '60's, and there was no Codec back then, but half the time I got so bored that I just skipped them altogether.

[QUOTE="MGS4_GOAT"] MGS4 is an awe-inspiring synthesis of entertaining cinematic gameplay and dramatic storytelling. IF that can't keep your attention you're better off playing your call of dudies and halozVGobbsesser

An excerpt from the Gamespot review proves nothing.:| That's the opinion of the reviewer,and not everyone has to or will agree agree with it.

You have to have lots of time on your hands to enjoy a game(interactive Japanese cartoon movie) like MGS4. You also have to find things like watching paint dry to find yourself even remotely wanting to play it.

Nothing is wrong it's more like criticisms. MGS4 is one of my favorite games but it seem over done. I think even if they cut half of the scenes in the game I think it would still be a great game. MGS4 is like the director's cut with deleted scenes, bloopers, gag reel, outtakes, extended edition.

Nothing is wrong with MGS4 its one of the best games ever.

[QUOTE="Eddie-Vedder"]

The problem with MGS4 is it's too good. Made all other games feel really dull for a good while.

awuilfj

Lol. That must be the problem here.

Because i found MGS3 to be superior.

Zerocrossings

This.

[QUOTE="Gxgear"]

It's a PS3 exclusive.

Received a perfect 10 on GS.

So a lot of "PS3 owners" were "dissappointed" when they "played" MGS4.

teh_shogun

It's a matter of opinion of course. But it's also a given that I'm going to take a critic's opinions over yours.

Nothing big enough to make this game not awesome.

MGS4 is my favorite game.

It's rated M for mature, and I expect it has a quality story. However, it's story is as childish as dragon ball or sailor moon.

lol even FF13 has better story than it. I mean doesnt ppl get tired after seeing so many times that snake iscrying he's so sick and close to death, and lol he manages to stay alive in the end. Raiden is hitted by a ship weighted 10,000+ tons, and he survives. Too many faked death moment really kills its story...and in the end, it's getting very sissy cuz people really get tired of it. They should make it neat.

Idc what ppl say, still one of the best games ever