When comparing 360 vs PS3 why do pc games count?

Every time there is a comparison between 360 and ps3 games, somebody always brings up, well its on pc so it doesnt count?

where is the logic in this?

In a comparison between the two this doesnt make sense.

If i were to go in to a shop to buy either a ps3 or a 360, i will notice that Gears of war, left 4 dead, mass effect are availible on the 360 and not the ps3.

If i had only a ps3 i would not be able to play these games, just as my 360 will not play Uncharted 2, and MGS4.

I spent about £600 this year upgrading my pc to play such games as crysis on max settings, and there is not one person i know who would spend that much on a PC to play a handful of games.

So these same people who claim to have teh massivez spes pc and a ps3, and spent a load of money upgrading thier pc to play these 360/ pc games, does it not make more sense to spend that money on a 360? especially when this year only two gameshave come out on the pc that are worth upgrading for, ( empire total war , arma 2 )

But then i do suspect most Sony fanboys say they have a high spec pc as damage control.

your thoughts

Every time there is a comparison between 360 and ps3 games, somebody always brings up, well its on pc so it doesnt count?

where is the logic in this?

In a comparison between the two this doesnt make sense.

If i were to go in to a shop to buy either a ps3 or a 360, i will notice that Gears of war, left 4 dead, mass effect are availible on the 360 and not the ps3.

If i had only a ps3 i would not be able to play these games, just as my 360 will not play Uncharted 2, and MGS4.

I spent about £600 this year upgrading my pc to play such games as crysis on max settings, and there is not one person i know who would spend that much on a PC to play a handful of games.

So these same people who claim to have teh massivez spes pc and a ps3, and spent a load of money upgrading thier pc to play these 360/ pc games, does it not make more sense to spend that money on a 360? especially when this year only two gameshave come out on the pc that are worth upgrading for, ( empire total war , arma 2 )

But then i do suspect most Sony fanboys say they have a high spec pc as damage control.

your thoughts

scottiescott238

no it just called the cows are being cows. since the 360 has a ton of great games that come out on the pc/360. that try to pull that crap.

its really just a lame excuse. to try to make it look like the ps3 has more ps3 only games and better game than the 360.

I'll always have a PC in my life .... I'll be able to play those PC games (some now , some later).

Every time there is a comparison between 360 and ps3 games, somebody always brings up, well its on pc so it doesnt count?scottiescott238

It doesn't count as an EXCLUSIVE.

But then i do suspect most Sony fanboys say they have a high spec pc as damage control.scottiescott238

I don't doubt Cows do it for these reasons. But that doesn't make them wrong necessarily.

It's not just Cows either (though Lemmings like to pretend it is to portray opposition as prejudice), Hermits and Manticores oppose it as well.

Every time there is a comparison between 360 and ps3 games, somebody always brings up, well its on pc so it doesnt count?

where is the logic in this?

In a comparison between the two this doesnt make sense.

If i were to go in to a shop to buy either a ps3 or a 360, i will notice that Gears of war, left 4 dead, mass effect are availible on the 360 and not the ps3.

If i had only a ps3 i would not be able to play these games, just as my 360 will not play Uncharted 2, and MGS4.

I spent about £600 this year upgrading my pc to play such games as crysis on max settings, and there is not one person i know who would spend that much on a PC to play a handful of games.

So these same people who claim to have teh massivez spes pc and a ps3, and spent a load of money upgrading thier pc to play these 360/ pc games, does it not make more sense to spend that money on a 360? especially when this year only two gameshave come out on the pc that are worth upgrading for, ( empire total war , arma 2 )

But then i do suspect most Sony fanboys say they have a high spec pc as damage control.

your thoughts

This is sytem wars and exclusive means only on that system. PC is a different system than X-box, therefore they are not exclusive.

You're right, I can't play Mass effect and Gears on my Ps3 but I can play them on me PC. Some people don't have the option of playing on the PC, i get that.

We can't really call DC universe an exclusive because it is also on PC. If UC 1 & 2 were on the PC , they would not be called exclusives. It's just a Fact that has always been in system wars and always will be unless PC gaming dies (not happening).

Example :When a website/newspaper run a story interviewing someone , they call that an exclusive . 20 other publications/websites do not run the story as their own.

[QUOTE="crozon"]hold but i want to buy the pc versions because they are for the better part better operation flashpoint - more players on mp and map editor resi evil 5 - m/k support question is if you have a high end pc why would you but the console version. plug pc to hdtv and you have a console experience with all the pc advantagesOntain

No it doesn't. PS3 isn't the system getting PC games listed as it's exclusives. This would be lemmings comparing 360+pc vs. PS3.

This is sytem wars and exclusive means only on that system. PC is a different system than X-box, therefore they are not exclusive./p>akira2465

this topic is terrible. can we get a sticky or something explaining it please?

hold but i want to buy the pc versions because they are for the better part better operation flashpoint - more players on mp and map editor resi evil 5 - m/k support question is if you have a high end pc why would you but the console version. plug pc to hdtv and you have a console experience with all the pc advantagescrozon

I'll always have a PC in my life .... I'll be able to play those PC games (some now , some later).

[QUOTE="akira2465"]

This is sytem wars and exclusive means only on that system. PC is a different system than X-box, therefore they are not exclusive./p>Ninja-Hippo

Last time I checked this wasn't a PS3 vs 360 board. What others claim to have has no point being in the discussion. Even if I didn't have a high end PC to run those games, it would still be aFACT that games like Mass effect/Gears/Fable etc are not exclusive. Right now Gears 2 is exclusive.

I don't get what the point is. This is the way it's always been. In the end it doesn't really matter because we all get to play games.

Cows will forever use the PC argument, which only proves that they need 2 systems PC/PS3 to battle 1 system the 360. The funny thing about it is that the large majority of great games made for the PC are developed for the Windows platform! :lol: How this benifits the Cow in any way I have no idea!

it depends on the argument used. if at any time a 360/pc multiplat game is referred to as exclusive, then somebody has every right to bring up the fact that it's not exclusive.

I've NEVER considered my PC a "system" in regards to gaming, but apparently others do. The PC is in a class of it's own simply because one can upgrade it on the fly and generate better results. Consoles don't allow that so I've ALWAYS felt that they should be compared against each other and NOT the PC. As it stands, PC core PC gamers will always buy their games on the PC if it's available and console gamers will always buy their games for their console (doesn't even matter if they own a PC). If we were to compile a list of "console" exclusives, the 360's library would absolutely destroy the PS3's. Sadly though, System Wars logic (although HORRIBLY flawed) wins out and we are led to believe that EVERY cow here has a gaming PC that can run all these games at 360 or better standards. :lol:Nedemis

I remember a while back , Casey Wagner (i believe) wrote a post telling people to count the PC as a system and not disregard it

:D speak of the devil. Thanks for clearing it up casey

I've NEVER considered my PC a "system" in regards to gaming, but apparently others do. The PC is in a class of it's own simply because one can upgrade it on the fly and generate better results. Consoles don't allow that so I've ALWAYS felt that they should be compared against each other and NOT the PC. As it stands, PC core PC gamers will always buy their games on the PC if it's available and console gamers will always buy their games for their console (doesn't even matter if they own a PC). If we were to compile a list of "console" exclusives, the 360's library would absolutely destroy the PS3's. Sadly though, System Wars logic (although HORRIBLY flawed) wins out and we are led to believe that EVERY cow here has a gaming PC that can run all these games at 360 or better standards. :lol:Nedemis

[QUOTE="Nike_Air"]

I'll always have a PC in my life .... I'll be able to play those PC games (some now , some later).

dsmccracken

Except in this case your using the 360 + PC to counter the PS3. Everyone knows if system "x" + a console equals superior exclusives. That's why PC is by itself.

Except in this case your using the 360 + PC to counter the PS3.akira2465

[QUOTE="scottiescott238"]

Every time there is a comparison between 360 and ps3 games, somebody always brings up, well its on pc so it doesnt count?

where is the logic in this?

In a comparison between the two this doesnt make sense.

If i were to go in to a shop to buy either a ps3 or a 360, i will notice that Gears of war, left 4 dead, mass effect are availible on the 360 and not the ps3.

If i had only a ps3 i would not be able to play these games, just as my 360 will not play Uncharted 2, and MGS4.

I spent about £600 this year upgrading my pc to play such games as crysis on max settings, and there is not one person i know who would spend that much on a PC to play a handful of games.

So these same people who claim to have teh massivez spes pc and a ps3, and spent a load of money upgrading thier pc to play these 360/ pc games, does it not make more sense to spend that money on a 360? especially when this year only two gameshave come out on the pc that are worth upgrading for, ( empire total war , arma 2 )

But then i do suspect most Sony fanboys say they have a high spec pc as damage control.

your thoughts

NukePistols

I have tried this before. Cows don't understand the logic behind this.... :(

I agree with the TC. If you are a pc gamer good for you, but I don't think that the pc is in the same market as the consoles. Go to a Walmart, Target, Gamespot, or Game Crazy and compare the games they have in stock. They have like 20 times more games for the 360 and PS3 than PC games.

I agree with the TC. If you are a pc gamer good for you, but I don't think that the pc is in the same market as the consoles. Go to a Walmart, Target, Gamespot, or Game Crazy and compare the games they have in stock. They have like 20 times more games for the 360 and PS3 than PC games.

justin28107

If a game is on more than one platform, then it is not an exclusive title. Those are the System Wars standards.

However, when comparing overall libraries, those titles most certainly do count. When comparing libraries, a lemming is not hiding behind anything. He or she is simply saying, "I can play Mass Effect on my 360." That's it. Nothing more. Now if some raving cow should decide to come into the thread and claim that they can play that game on their PC, it is the cow who is hiding behind the PC. That is why some people say that when comparing libraries, some cows need both the PS3 and the PC to counter the 360.

When comparing apples and oranges somebody always wants to mention banana's because they don't want to feel excluded from the list and want to prove their superiority to everybody else for having a capable gaming rig that can outdue the current generation of consoles in graphics and performance.

If a game is on more than one platform, then it is not an exclusive title. Those are the System Wars standards.

However, when comparing overall libraries, those titles most certainly do count. When comparing libraries, a lemming is not hiding behind anything. He or she is simply saying, "I can play Mass Effect on my 360." That's it. Nothing more. Now if some raving cow should decide to come into the thread and claim that they can play that game on their PC, it is the cow who is hiding behind the PC. That is why some people say that when comparing libraries, some cows need both the PS3 and the PC to counter the 360.

lespaul00

That's the exact point I've been trying to drive home everytime a cow makes that claim....

I agree with the TC. If you are a pc gamer good for you, but I don't think that the pc is in the same market as the consoles. Go to a Walmart, Target, Gamespot, or Game Crazy and compare the games they have in stock. They have like 20 times more games for the 360 and PS3 than PC games.

justin28107

I agree with the TC. If you are a pc gamer good for you, but I don't think that the pc is in the same market as the consoles. Go to a Walmart, Target, Gamespot, or Game Crazy and compare the games they have in stock. They have like 20 times more games for the 360 and PS3 than PC games.

justin28107

[QUOTE="justin28107"]

I agree with the TC. If you are a pc gamer good for you, but I don't think that the pc is in the same market as the consoles. Go to a Walmart, Target, Gamespot, or Game Crazy and compare the games they have in stock. They have like 20 times more games for the 360 and PS3 than PC games.

kidcool189

Cows will forever use the PC argument, which only proves that they need 2 systems PC/PS3 to battle 1 system the 360. The funny thing about it is that the large majority of great games made for the PC are developed for the Windows platform! :lol: How this benifits the Cow in any way I have no idea!KaoSXFACTOR

most of the 360 "exclusives" arent exclusives because they are on PC...

someone telling me well 360 has gears of war and PS3 dont, well its not exclusive beacase its on PC and I have a gaming PC.

it would be the same as say if MGS4 or uncharted2 was on PC... lemmings would say the same thing

most of the 360 "exclusives" arent exclusives because they are on PC...

someone telling me well 360 has gears of war and PS3 dont, well its not exclusive beacase its on PC and I have a gaming PC.

it would be the same as say if MGS4 or uncharted2 was on PC... lemmings would say the same thing

sillaris

Exactly the point. "Hiding behind the PC" PC/PS3 vs 360. How does this benefit the PS3 in a PS3 vs 360 argument though?

[QUOTE="sillaris"]

most of the 360 "exclusives" arent exclusives because they are on PC...

someone telling me well 360 has gears of war and PS3 dont, well its not exclusive beacase its on PC and I have a gaming PC.

it would be the same as say if MGS4 or uncharted2 was on PC... lemmings would say the same thing

KaoSXFACTOR

Exactly the point. "Hiding behind the PC" PC/PS3 vs 360. How does this benefit the PS3 in a PS3 vs 360 argument though?

[QUOTE="sillaris"]

most of the 360 "exclusives" arent exclusives because they are on PC...

someone telling me well 360 has gears of war and PS3 dont, well its not exclusive beacase its on PC and I have a gaming PC.

it would be the same as say if MGS4 or uncharted2 was on PC... lemmings would say the same thing

KaoSXFACTOR

Exactly the point. "Hiding behind the PC" PC/PS3 vs 360. How does this benefit the PS3 in a PS3 vs 360 argument though?

Didn't you know? A PC equipped with a GeForce GTX 295 comes bundled with each and every PS3?

But really, the cows argument actually exposes a flaw in their game line up defense. With PS3 it takes two seperate machines at extra cost to match the library found on just 1 box with the 360. In actually only Hermits have claim to this argument, as PC IS their primary gaming platform, whereas not every cow can claim to have a gaming capable PC. And their typing here doesn't offer proof, a PC that can surf doesn't necessarily play Crysis or Stalker.

Didn't you know? A PC equipped with a GeForce GTX 295 comes bundled with each and every PS3?

But really, the cows argument actually exposes a flaw in their game line up defense. With PS3 it takes two seperate machines at extra cost to match the library found on just 1 box with the 360. In actually only Hermits have claim to this argument, as PC IS their primary gaming platform, whereas not every cow can claim to have a gaming capable PC. And their typing here doesn't offer proof, a PC that can surf doesn't necessarily play Crysis or Stalker.

AdobeArtist

[QUOTE="AdobeArtist"]

Didn't you know? A PC equipped with a GeForce GTX 295 comes bundled with each and every PS3?

But really, the cows argument actually exposes a flaw in their game line up defense. With PS3 it takes two seperate machines at extra cost to match the library found on just 1 box with the 360. In actually only Hermits have claim to this argument, as PC IS their primary gaming platform, whereas not every cow can claim to have a gaming capable PC. And their typing here doesn't offer proof, a PC that can surf doesn't necessarily play Crysis or Stalker.

sillaris

And you completely missed the point of my argument. "with BOTH a PC and PS3 there's no reason to buy a 360". Just why is it PS3 can't compete against 360s library on its own??

[QUOTE="AdobeArtist"]

Didn't you know? A PC equipped with a GeForce GTX 295 comes bundled with each and every PS3?

But really, the cows argument actually exposes a flaw in their game line up defense. With PS3 it takes two seperate machines at extra cost to match the library found on just 1 box with the 360. In actually only Hermits have claim to this argument, as PC IS their primary gaming platform, whereas not every cow can claim to have a gaming capable PC. And their typing here doesn't offer proof, a PC that can surf doesn't necessarily play Crysis or Stalker.

sillaris

[QUOTE="sillaris"][QUOTE="AdobeArtist"]

Didn't you know? A PC equipped with a GeForce GTX 295 comes bundled with each and every PS3?

But really, the cows argument actually exposes a flaw in their game line up defense. With PS3 it takes two seperate machines at extra cost to match the library found on just 1 box with the 360. In actually only Hermits have claim to this argument, as PC IS their primary gaming platform, whereas not every cow can claim to have a gaming capable PC. And their typing here doesn't offer proof, a PC that can surf doesn't necessarily play Crysis or Stalker.

AdobeArtist

And you completely missed the point of my argument. "with BOTH a PC and PS3 there's no reason to buy a 360". Just why is it PS3 can't compete against 360s library on its own??

[QUOTE="sillaris"][QUOTE="AdobeArtist"]

Didn't you know? A PC equipped with a GeForce GTX 295 comes bundled with each and every PS3?

But really, the cows argument actually exposes a flaw in their game line up defense. With PS3 it takes two seperate machines at extra cost to match the library found on just 1 box with the 360. In actually only Hermits have claim to this argument, as PC IS their primary gaming platform, whereas not every cow can claim to have a gaming capable PC. And their typing here doesn't offer proof, a PC that can surf doesn't necessarily play Crysis or Stalker.

AdobeArtist

And you completely missed the point of my argument. "with BOTH a PC and PS3 there's no reason to buy a 360". Just why is it PS3 can't compete against 360s library on its own??