[QUOTE="Pices"] No you see, I DON'T NEED A 360 to play that game, I can be a ps3 owner and play it on my PCdsmccrackenGreat, so you're argument is that you don't need a $250 360 since you have a $300 PS3 + a minimum $500 PC. Well done, I think we can all stipulate that 2 systems are better than one. Did you also know that a Wii + 360 has far more AAAEs than the PS3? Actually both the ps3 and 360 are $300. And the pc version is better
When comparing 360 vs PS3 why do pc games count?
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[QUOTE="dsmccracken"][QUOTE="Pices"] No you see, I DON'T NEED A 360 to play that game, I can be a ps3 owner and play it on my PCPicesGreat, so you're argument is that you don't need a $250 360 since you have a $300 PS3 + a minimum $500 PC. Well done, I think we can all stipulate that 2 systems are better than one. Did you also know that a Wii + 360 has far more AAAEs than the PS3? Actually both the ps3 and 360 are $300. And the pc version is better
Not where I live: LINK. And that's not even the Core SKU.
360 vs PS3 is exclusives vs exclusives, multiplats never counted and never will.TintedEyesI love it when people who have been on GS less than 2 months come in and say what the rules were :roll:
Actually both the ps3 and 360 are $300. And the pc version is better[QUOTE="Pices"][QUOTE="dsmccracken"]Great, so you're argument is that you don't need a $250 360 since you have a $300 PS3 + a minimum $500 PC. Well done, I think we can all stipulate that 2 systems are better than one. Did you also know that a Wii + 360 has far more AAAEs than the PS3?dsmccracken
Not where I live: LINK. And that's not even the Core SKU.
Thats the PRO, everybody buys the Elite because its better[QUOTE="Zoso-8"]Probably based off the fact that everyone here has a pc or has access to one.dsmccrackenI agree, we all have PCs. And it is therefore valid that anyone can claim that they can play ME on said PC. However, this therefore requires one to admit that they need a $300 PS3 + a minimum $500 PC in order to counter a $250 360. For the record, you don't need to spend that much money on a PC for it to play modern games. And since everyone needs a PC, I don't see why they wouldn't
[QUOTE="dsmccracken"][QUOTE="Zoso-8"]Probably based off the fact that everyone here has a pc or has access to one.mgkennedy5I agree, we all have PCs. And it is therefore valid that anyone can claim that they can play ME on said PC. However, this therefore requires one to admit that they need a $300 PS3 + a minimum $500 PC in order to counter a $250 360. For the record, you don't need to spend that much money on a PC for it to play modern games. And since everyone needs a PC, I don't see why they wouldn't Yes, but that PC still cost money. You had to pay for it somewhere. Therefore, someone arguing that they have a PS3 and can play 360 titles on their PC would need to include the cost of their PC in the argument.
[QUOTE="mgkennedy5"][QUOTE="dsmccracken"] I agree, we all have PCs. And it is therefore valid that anyone can claim that they can play ME on said PC. However, this therefore requires one to admit that they need a $300 PS3 + a minimum $500 PC in order to counter a $250 360.lespaul00For the record, you don't need to spend that much money on a PC for it to play modern games. And since everyone needs a PC, I don't see why they wouldn't Yes, but that PC still cost money. You had to pay for it somewhere. Therefore, someone arguing that they have a PS3 and can play 360 titles on their PC would need to include the cost of their PC in the argument. The same cost as paying for LIVE, wireless adapter, different batteries/charger kits, another 360 because it breaks and another game because the 360 tends to scratch the discs
[QUOTE="Zoso-8"]Probably based off the fact that everyone here has a pc or has access to one.dsmccrackenI agree, we all have PCs. And it is therefore valid that anyone can claim that they can play ME on said PC. However, this therefore requires one to admit that they need a $300 PS3 + a minimum $500 PC in order to counter a $250 360. $250 360? You telling me that you'll play L4D2 without XBL? online co-op is what makes L4D2 good.
[QUOTE="lespaul00"][QUOTE="mgkennedy5"] For the record, you don't need to spend that much money on a PC for it to play modern games. And since everyone needs a PC, I don't see why they wouldn'tPicesYes, but that PC still cost money. You had to pay for it somewhere. Therefore, someone arguing that they have a PS3 and can play 360 titles on their PC would need to include the cost of their PC in the argument. The same cost as paying for LIVE, wireless adapter, different batteries/charger kits, another 360 because it breaks and another game because the 360 tends to scratch the discs Do everyone a favor and drop out of this thread. Your senseless trolling attempts with quoting wireless adapters (not needed) and taking shots at a broken console do not contribute to the discussion at hand in any way.
Yeah, I get that. But I'm saying that everyone has a PC anyway, so even those 360 owners have a PC. I mean, everyone has one! Regardless of whether you want to play games on it or not. But if you know how and where to buy, you can get one that plays games for cheaper than that computer at Costco or Futureshop. So I don't think that should really count in their arguementlespaul00And that is a valid statement as well. However, the main difference, I think, is that we rarely see lemmings praising any games other than their own. That is it. You never hear them talking about PC titles, or PS3 titles. It is almost always cows who inevitably jump at the chance to state they can play it on a computer. If cows (and of course this really only applies to the rabid ones of course) are going to immediately hide behind the PC, then they should have to hide behind it all, including the cost of the PC. And the fact that everyone has one may or may not apply. Even if you bought a computer a year ago for purposes other than gaming, the fact remains that cows are "supposedly" playing all these wonderful games on them. That PC cost them money. They are fanboys, and they have the right to bash the opposing console. Didnt lemmings did this when the PS3 wasnt out yet?
[QUOTE="lespaul00"]Yeah, I get that. But I'm saying that everyone has a PC anyway, so even those 360 owners have a PC. I mean, everyone has one! Regardless of whether you want to play games on it or not. But if you know how and where to buy, you can get one that plays games for cheaper than that computer at Costco or Futureshop. So I don't think that should really count in their arguementdef_modeAnd that is a valid statement as well. However, the main difference, I think, is that we rarely see lemmings praising any games other than their own. That is it. You never hear them talking about PC titles, or PS3 titles. It is almost always cows who inevitably jump at the chance to state they can play it on a computer. If cows (and of course this really only applies to the rabid ones of course) are going to immediately hide behind the PC, then they should have to hide behind it all, including the cost of the PC. And the fact that everyone has one may or may not apply. Even if you bought a computer a year ago for purposes other than gaming, the fact remains that cows are "supposedly" playing all these wonderful games on them. That PC cost them money. They are fanboys, and they have the right to bash the opposing console. Didnt lemmings did this when the PS3 wasnt out yet? Of course they did. That is what makes this place so fun. :) However, they did not hide behind another system. It was just their 360 against a PS3. They did not hide behind the PC.
[QUOTE="Pices"][QUOTE="lespaul00"] Yes, but that PC still cost money. You had to pay for it somewhere. Therefore, someone arguing that they have a PS3 and can play 360 titles on their PC would need to include the cost of their PC in the argument. lespaul00The same cost as paying for LIVE, wireless adapter, different batteries/charger kits, another 360 because it breaks and another game because the 360 tends to scratch the discs Do everyone a favor and drop out of this thread. Your senseless trolling attempts with quoting wireless adapters (not needed) and taking shots at a broken console do not contribute to the discussion at hand in any way. Excuse me, but trolling? These are facts. How in the world can I be trolling? Its like I come in and say that Hitler killed millions of Jews, which HE DID. So tell me, how is that "trolling" ?
Yeah, I get that. But I'm saying that everyone has a PC anyway, so even those 360 owners have a PC. I mean, everyone has one! Regardless of whether you want to play games on it or not. But if you know how and where to buy, you can get one that plays games for cheaper than that computer at Costco or Futureshop. So I don't think that should really count in their arguementlespaul00And that is a valid statement as well. However, the main difference, I think, is that we rarely see lemmings praising any games other than their own. That is it. You never hear them talking about PC titles, or PS3 titles. It is almost always cows who inevitably jump at the chance to state they can play it on a computer. If cows (and of course this really only applies to the rabid ones of course) are going to immediately hide behind the PC, then they should have to hide behind it all, including the cost of the PC. And the fact that everyone has one may or may not apply. Even if you bought a computer a year ago for purposes other than gaming, the fact remains that cows are "supposedly" playing all these wonderful games on them. That PC cost them money. I guess that is true. The whole reason I upgraded my PC was to play Mass Effect, and that was before I had a 360 =P
its pretty ironic that you want to include the PC in an argument to make the 360 look worse off, but then turn right around and exclude the PC to determine that Uncharted 2 is graphic king to make the PS3 look better off.you cant exclude the PC its a gaming system.
the PS3 on its own has better exclusives than 360. exclusives are made better on PS3 like how uncharted2 is console graphics king. PS3 exclusives arent on PC.
for multiplats some are better on PS3 and some are better on 360. for as far as exclusives PS3 is where its at
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Well, everyone has a PC. It cost me under $100 Canadian to upgrade my old PC To play games like Mass Effect on Med settings, with no hitches. It barely costs anything to upgrade ur PC, you just have to know howmgkennedy5thats not true. not everyone owns a PC. and until they start giving them away for free not everyone will. i got my first PC last year and ive been gaming for 20 plus years. i did use my roomates from time to time.
thats not true. not everyone owns a PC. and until they start giving them away for free not everyone will. i got my first PC last year and ive been gaming for 20 plus years. i did use my roomates from time to time. Okay, I realize not EVERYONE has one, but the majority. Everyone I know has one at least. Sorry I should not have made such a general statement. I assume that everyone on this board must have a PC, unless they're using in Iphone or something[QUOTE="mgkennedy5"]Well, everyone has a PC. It cost me under $100 Canadian to upgrade my old PC To play games like Mass Effect on Med settings, with no hitches. It barely costs anything to upgrade ur PC, you just have to know howtikki25x
[QUOTE="def_mode"][QUOTE="lespaul00"] And that is a valid statement as well. However, the main difference, I think, is that we rarely see lemmings praising any games other than their own. That is it. You never hear them talking about PC titles, or PS3 titles. It is almost always cows who inevitably jump at the chance to state they can play it on a computer. If cows (and of course this really only applies to the rabid ones of course) are going to immediately hide behind the PC, then they should have to hide behind it all, including the cost of the PC. And the fact that everyone has one may or may not apply. Even if you bought a computer a year ago for purposes other than gaming, the fact remains that cows are "supposedly" playing all these wonderful games on them. That PC cost them money.lespaul00They are fanboys, and they have the right to bash the opposing console. Didnt lemmings did this when the PS3 wasnt out yet? Of course they did. That is what makes this place so fun. :) However, they did not hide behind another system. It was just their 360 against a PS3. They did not hide behind the PC.
Yup they do. Remember the:
Fanboy1: i can surf the web on my PS3!
Fanboy2: lol, if i want to surf the web ill use my PC.
[QUOTE="tikki25x"]thats not true. not everyone owns a PC. and until they start giving them away for free not everyone will. i got my first PC last year and ive been gaming for 20 plus years. i did use my roomates from time to time. Okay, I realize not EVERYONE has one, but the majority. Everyone I know has one at least. Sorry I should not have made such a general statement. I assume that everyone on this board must have a PC, unless they're using in Iphone or somethingim not bashing you man. on the flip side, most of the gamers i know DONT own a PC. and if they do the last thing they think to use it for is gaming. everyones different i guess. i do plan on upgrading mine in the near future, but mostly for PC only games like Diablo 3 and The Old Republic. i dunno maybe then i,ll play more console type games on it.[QUOTE="mgkennedy5"]Well, everyone has a PC. It cost me under $100 Canadian to upgrade my old PC To play games like Mass Effect on Med settings, with no hitches. It barely costs anything to upgrade ur PC, you just have to know howmgkennedy5
[QUOTE="lespaul00"][QUOTE="Pices"] The same cost as paying for LIVE, wireless adapter, different batteries/charger kits, another 360 because it breaks and another game because the 360 tends to scratch the discsPicesDo everyone a favor and drop out of this thread. Your senseless trolling attempts with quoting wireless adapters (not needed) and taking shots at a broken console do not contribute to the discussion at hand in any way. Excuse me, but trolling? These are facts. How in the world can I be trolling? Its like I come in and say that Hitler killed millions of Jews, which HE DID. So tell me, how is that "trolling" ?
I don't use the wireless adapter on my 360, and yet I still play online. I never once had a disc sctratched by my 360, and one time it got RRoD, it got repaired for FREE, so I didn't pay for a second console. You trying to pass off your argument as "fact" is completely illegitimate, and didn't at all contribute anything relevant to the topic at hand. Oh and it sure as HELL can't be compared to WWII history! I'd say the accusation of trolling still stands in your case.
Actually both the ps3 and 360 are $300. And the pc version is betterPices
Not where I live: LINK. And that's not even the Core SKU.
Thats the PRO, everybody buys the Elite because its better Everyone? I guess my pro was just an illusion...Of course they did. That is what makes this place so fun. :) However, they did not hide behind another system. It was just their 360 against a PS3. They did not hide behind the PC.[QUOTE="lespaul00"][QUOTE="def_mode"] They are fanboys, and they have the right to bash the opposing console. Didnt lemmings did this when the PS3 wasnt out yet?def_mode
Yup they do. Remember the:
Fanboy1: i can surf the web on my PS3!
Fanboy2: lol, if i want to surf the web ill use my PC.
Yes, but that argument would not apply to the scenario you presented. The PS3 was not out yet. Therefore, they were not using the PS3 to surf the web. However you are correct. At some point, a few knucklehead lemmings decided to knock the PS3 web browser feature by using the PC. That was only for a brief time though. The games debate will rage on forever. Of course now, I hear cows say all the time that the web browser is impractical on the PS3. I cannot verify this myself though.[QUOTE="lespaul00"][QUOTE="mgkennedy5"] For the record, you don't need to spend that much money on a PC for it to play modern games. And since everyone needs a PC, I don't see why they wouldn'tPicesYes, but that PC still cost money. You had to pay for it somewhere. Therefore, someone arguing that they have a PS3 and can play 360 titles on their PC would need to include the cost of their PC in the argument. The same cost as paying for LIVE, wireless adapter, different batteries/charger kits, another 360 because it breaks and another game because the 360 tends to scratch the discs Fanboy much? No 360 owner HAS to have a wireless adapter to play ME. But a PS3 owner HAS to buy a PC to play it....
[QUOTE="dsmccracken"][QUOTE="Zoso-8"]Probably based off the fact that everyone here has a pc or has access to one.mgkennedy5I agree, we all have PCs. And it is therefore valid that anyone can claim that they can play ME on said PC. However, this therefore requires one to admit that they need a $300 PS3 + a minimum $500 PC in order to counter a $250 360. For the record, you don't need to spend that much money on a PC for it to play modern games. And since everyone needs a PC, I don't see why they wouldn't By show of hands, who here is gaming on a $200 PC?
Excuse me, but trolling? These are facts. How in the world can I be trolling? Its like I come in and say that Hitler killed millions of Jews, which HE DID. So tell me, how is that "trolling" ?[QUOTE="Pices"][QUOTE="lespaul00"] Do everyone a favor and drop out of this thread. Your senseless trolling attempts with quoting wireless adapters (not needed) and taking shots at a broken console do not contribute to the discussion at hand in any way. AdobeArtist
I don't use the wireless adapter on my 360, and yet I still play online. I never once had a disc sctratched by my 360, and one time it got RRoD, it got repaired for FREE, so I didn't pay for a second console. You trying to pass off your argument as "fact" is completely illegitimate, and can no way be compared to WWII history. I'd say the accusation of trolling still stands in your case.
You and your one 360 does NOT represent the 15+ million user base and 31+ million 360s that had got messed up by the RROD, disc scratching and no use of Wireless adapter it. Its 54% and unacceptable. How can MS revolutionize the gaming industry when they can't even do the simplest thing like making a console work?[QUOTE="Pices"][QUOTE="lespaul00"] Yes, but that PC still cost money. You had to pay for it somewhere. Therefore, someone arguing that they have a PS3 and can play 360 titles on their PC would need to include the cost of their PC in the argument. dsmccrackenThe same cost as paying for LIVE, wireless adapter, different batteries/charger kits, another 360 because it breaks and another game because the 360 tends to scratch the discs Fanboy much? No 360 owner HAS to have a wireless adapter to play ME. But a PS3 owner HAS to buy a PC to play it.... Not a fanboy , I love the 360 games, I just hate the hardware and outrageous requirements
[QUOTE="lespaul00"][QUOTE="mgkennedy5"] For the record, you don't need to spend that much money on a PC for it to play modern games. And since everyone needs a PC, I don't see why they wouldn'tmgkennedy5Yes, but that PC still cost money. You had to pay for it somewhere. Therefore, someone arguing that they have a PS3 and can play 360 titles on their PC would need to include the cost of their PC in the argument. Yeah, I get that. But I'm saying that everyone has a PC anyway, so even those 360 owners have a PC. I mean, everyone has one! Regardless of whether you want to play games on it or not. But if you know how and where to buy, you can get one that plays games for cheaper than that computer at Costco or Futureshop. So I don't think that should really count in their arguement If the fact that everyone "has" a computer means that we don't need to factor their price into the cost of gaming, this means that every Hermit on this site is gaming for free. Yet the most common argument used by all console gamers against Hermits is the cost of PC gaming. But now, because it aids the PS3, this is not only NOT an issue, but we now must consider all PC gaming completely free? Someone needs to tell the Hermits about this late breaking development... allow me. ATTENTION ALL PC GAMERS!!! GAMING ON YOUR PC IS NOW ABSOLUTELY SCOT FREE!!! YOU HEARD IT HERE FIRST!!! FREEEEEEEEE!!!! Is that really an argument you think makes logical sense?
Excuse me, but trolling? These are facts. How in the world can I be trolling? Its like I come in and say that Hitler killed millions of Jews, which HE DID. So tell me, how is that "trolling" ?Pices
I don't use the wireless adapter on my 360, and yet I still play online. I never once had a disc sctratched by my 360, and one time it got RRoD, it got repaired for FREE, so I didn't pay for a second console. You trying to pass off your argument as "fact" is completely illegitimate, and can no way be compared to WWII history. I'd say the accusation of trolling still stands in your case.
You and your one 360 does NOT represent the 15+ million user base and 31+ million 360s that had got messed up by the RROD, disc scratching and no use of Wireless adapter it. Its 54% and unacceptable. How can MS revolutionize the gaming industry when they can't even do the simplest thing like making a console work? Actually, not paying for repairs/replacement is the norm, not an outlier. You own a 360 yet you don't know this? Weird.[QUOTE="AdobeArtist"][QUOTE="Pices"] Excuse me, but trolling? These are facts. How in the world can I be trolling? Its like I come in and say that Hitler killed millions of Jews, which HE DID. So tell me, how is that "trolling" ?Pices
I don't use the wireless adapter on my 360, and yet I still play online. I never once had a disc sctratched by my 360, and one time it got RRoD, it got repaired for FREE, so I didn't pay for a second console. You trying to pass off your argument as "fact" is completely illegitimate, and can no way be compared to WWII history. I'd say the accusation of trolling still stands in your case.
You and your one 360 does NOT represent the 15+ million user base and 31+ million 360s that had got messed up by the RROD, disc scratching and no use of Wireless adapter it. Its 54% and unacceptable. How can MS revolutionize the gaming industry when they can't even do the simplest thing like making a console work?Pulling numbers out of your arse just completely discredited you, if there was any to begin with. Even though high, you don't know what the actual failure rate is, no one does with any accuracy. And once again, you CAN'T claim that all users who's consoles broke down went out and bought another one, not when MS repairs them for FREE (which of course you used to skew the 360 user base down to 15M).
You really should just give this up already. If failure was bricks, yours would out stretch the wall of China.
[QUOTE="dsmccracken"][QUOTE="Pices"] The same cost as paying for LIVE, wireless adapter, different batteries/charger kits, another 360 because it breaks and another game because the 360 tends to scratch the discsPicesFanboy much? No 360 owner HAS to have a wireless adapter to play ME. But a PS3 owner HAS to buy a PC to play it.... Not a fanboy , I love the 360 games, I just hate the hardware and outrageous requirements Wireless adaptor is not a requirement. Buying another system rather than using the 3 year warranty is not a requirement. Live is not a requirement. A PC most certainly is a requirement for a PS3 owner who wants to play ME...
[QUOTE="Pices"][QUOTE="AdobeArtist"]You and your one 360 does NOT represent the 15+ million user base and 31+ million 360s that had got messed up by the RROD, disc scratching and no use of Wireless adapter it. Its 54% and unacceptable. How can MS revolutionize the gaming industry when they can't even do the simplest thing like making a console work? Actually, not paying for repairs/replacement is the norm, not an outlier. You own a 360 yet you don't know this? Weird.I don't use the wireless adapter on my 360, and yet I still play online. I never once had a disc sctratched by my 360, and one time it got RRoD, it got repaired for FREE, so I didn't pay for a second console. You trying to pass off your argument as "fact" is completely illegitimate, and can no way be compared to WWII history. I'd say the accusation of trolling still stands in your case.
dsmccracken
I don't have one. I refuse to pay for such a faulty product, despite the fact that it has great games. Why should I keep on paying for replacements? Its unacceptable. The 360 was rushed out for the sake of the competition, not the fans
[QUOTE="Pices"][QUOTE="AdobeArtist"]
I don't use the wireless adapter on my 360, and yet I still play online. I never once had a disc sctratched by my 360, and one time it got RRoD, it got repaired for FREE, so I didn't pay for a second console. You trying to pass off your argument as "fact" is completely illegitimate, and can no way be compared to WWII history. I'd say the accusation of trolling still stands in your case.
You and your one 360 does NOT represent the 15+ million user base and 31+ million 360s that had got messed up by the RROD, disc scratching and no use of Wireless adapter it. Its 54% and unacceptable. How can MS revolutionize the gaming industry when they can't even do the simplest thing like making a console work?Pulling numbers out of your arse just completely discredited you, if there was any to begin with. Even though high, you don't know what the actual failure rate is, no one does with any accuracy. And once again, you CAN'T claim that all users who's consoles broke down went out and bought another one, not when MS repairs them for FREE (which of course you used to skew the 360 user base down to 15M).
You really should just give this up already. If failure was bricks, yours would out stretch the wall of China.
And using the worde "arse" completely made me look down on you. IT IS STILL UNACCEPTABLE for the 360 to have this amount of failure rate whether you like it or not.Of course they did. That is what makes this place so fun. :) However, they did not hide behind another system. It was just their 360 against a PS3. They did not hide behind the PC.[QUOTE="lespaul00"][QUOTE="def_mode"] They are fanboys, and they have the right to bash the opposing console. Didnt lemmings did this when the PS3 wasnt out yet?def_mode
Yup they do. Remember the:
Fanboy1: i can surf the web on my PS3!
Fanboy2: lol, if i want to surf the web ill use my PC.
Short lived arguments by a few rabid fanbots does not equate to massive and continual nonsense spewed daily, including inside this very thread.Actually, not paying for repairs/replacement is the norm, not an outlier. You own a 360 yet you don't know this? Weird.[QUOTE="dsmccracken"][QUOTE="Pices"] You and your one 360 does NOT represent the 15+ million user base and 31+ million 360s that had got messed up by the RROD, disc scratching and no use of Wireless adapter it. Its 54% and unacceptable. How can MS revolutionize the gaming industry when they can't even do the simplest thing like making a console work?Pices
I don't have one. I refuse to pay for such a faulty product, despite the fact that it has great games. Why should I keep on paying for replacements? Its unacceptable. The 360 was rushed out for the sake of the competition, not the fans
Why would you pay for a replacement when MS fixes/replaces them for free?Actually, not paying for repairs/replacement is the norm, not an outlier. You own a 360 yet you don't know this? Weird.[QUOTE="dsmccracken"][QUOTE="Pices"] You and your one 360 does NOT represent the 15+ million user base and 31+ million 360s that had got messed up by the RROD, disc scratching and no use of Wireless adapter it. Its 54% and unacceptable. How can MS revolutionize the gaming industry when they can't even do the simplest thing like making a console work?Pices
I don't have one. I refuse to pay for such a faulty product, despite the fact that it has great games. Why should I keep on paying for replacements? Its unacceptable. The 360 was rushed out for the sake of the competition, not the fans
i think he was trying to say that you DONT pay for a replacement. they fix it for free so why would you pay for a new 360. my warranty is up and they still repaired mine for free. its a pain in the butt but at least i didnt get charged.[QUOTE="Pices"][QUOTE="dsmccracken"] Fanboy much? No 360 owner HAS to have a wireless adapter to play ME. But a PS3 owner HAS to buy a PC to play it....dsmccrackenNot a fanboy , I love the 360 games, I just hate the hardware and outrageous requirements Wireless adaptor is not a requirement. Buying another system rather than using the 3 year warranty is not a requirement. Live is not a requirement. A PC most certainly is a requirement for a PS3 owner who wants to play ME... * That means that I have to get the 2 wires ALL THE WAY TO MY ROOM? * Ya, but what if the warranty runs out? * Sure, I'll stick to playing single-player campaigns where the multiplayer is the strength...whats the point of the 360 with no online?
[QUOTE="dsmccracken"][QUOTE="Pices"] Not a fanboy , I love the 360 games, I just hate the hardware and outrageous requirementsPicesWireless adaptor is not a requirement. Buying another system rather than using the 3 year warranty is not a requirement. Live is not a requirement. A PC most certainly is a requirement for a PS3 owner who wants to play ME... * That means that I have to get the 2 wires ALL THE WAY TO MY ROOM? * Ya, but what if the warranty runs out? * Sure, I'll stick to playing single-player campaigns where the multiplayer is the strength...whats the point of the 360 with no online? Oh, I see. You have specific restrictions in your life. Well then, to paraphrase your own post, your one situation does not represent the tens of millions of users who own a current gen console. As for the rest, you spoke of REQUIREMENTS and I answered back about requirements. Are you now trying to change your point?
[QUOTE="AdobeArtist"]And using the worde "arse" completely made me look down on you. IT IS STILL UNACCEPTABLE for the 360 to have this amount of failure rate whether you like it or not.Pulling numbers out of your arse just completely discredited you, if there was any to begin with. Even though high, you don't know what the actual failure rate is, no one does with any accuracy. And once again, you CAN'T claim that all users who's consoles broke down went out and bought another one, not when MS repairs them for FREE (which of course you used to skew the 360 user base down to 15M).
You really should just give this up already. If failure was bricks, yours would out stretch the wall of China.
Pices
On the second part, nobody likes the 360 failure rate. But you still haven't been able to justify your claim that all owners have actually gone out and paid for a replacement, when MS offers free repairs.
On the first part... ummmm yeah.... you just shouldn't talk as though you're in the position to "look down" on anybody here. :roll::roll:
[QUOTE="Pices"][QUOTE="AdobeArtist"]
Pulling numbers out of your arse just completely discredited you, if there was any to begin with. Even though high, you don't know what the actual failure rate is, no one does with any accuracy. And once again, you CAN'T claim that all users who's consoles broke down went out and bought another one, not when MS repairs them for FREE (which of course you used to skew the 360 user base down to 15M).
You really should just give this up already. If failure was bricks, yours would out stretch the wall of China.
And using the worde "arse" completely made me look down on you. IT IS STILL UNACCEPTABLE for the 360 to have this amount of failure rate whether you like it or not.On the second part, nobody likes the 360 failure rate. But you still haven't been able to justify your claim that all owners have actually gone out and paid for a replacement, when MS offers free repairs.
On the first part... ummmm yeah.... you just shouldn't talk as though you're in the position to "look down" on anybody here. :roll::roll:
I didn't look down on anybody :S[QUOTE="Pices"][QUOTE="dsmccracken"] Wireless adaptor is not a requirement. Buying another system rather than using the 3 year warranty is not a requirement. Live is not a requirement. A PC most certainly is a requirement for a PS3 owner who wants to play ME...dsmccracken* That means that I have to get the 2 wires ALL THE WAY TO MY ROOM? * Ya, but what if the warranty runs out? * Sure, I'll stick to playing single-player campaigns where the multiplayer is the strength...whats the point of the 360 with no online? Oh, I see. You have specific restrictions in your life. Well then, to paraphrase your own post, your one situation does not represent the tens of millions of users who own a current gen console. As for the rest, you spoke of REQUIREMENTS and I answered back about requirements. Are you now trying to change your point? Why don't you think of someone else, and not yourself? Not everyone lives in the same way as you are.
[QUOTE="AdobeArtist"][QUOTE="Pices"] And using the worde "arse" completely made me look down on you. IT IS STILL UNACCEPTABLE for the 360 to have this amount of failure rate whether you like it or not. Pices
On the second part, nobody likes the 360 failure rate. But you still haven't been able to justify your claim that all owners have actually gone out and paid for a replacement, when MS offers free repairs.
On the first part... ummmm yeah.... you just shouldn't talk as though you're in the position to "look down" on anybody here. :roll::roll:
I didn't look down on anybody :SMaybe you should re-read your own post.
Actually, not paying for repairs/replacement is the norm, not an outlier. You own a 360 yet you don't know this? Weird.[QUOTE="dsmccracken"][QUOTE="Pices"] You and your one 360 does NOT represent the 15+ million user base and 31+ million 360s that had got messed up by the RROD, disc scratching and no use of Wireless adapter it. Its 54% and unacceptable. How can MS revolutionize the gaming industry when they can't even do the simplest thing like making a console work?Pices
I don't have one. I refuse to pay for such a faulty product, despite the fact that it has great games. Why should I keep on paying for replacements? Its unacceptable. The 360 was rushed out for the sake of the competition, not the fans
This is what I meant. You are taking this thread in a direction it was not intended. You have hijacked this thread to discuss your own bias 360 agenda. What you are saying here is not relevant at all to the discussion of 360 games library vs. PS3 games library. THAT is why you are trolling.Actually, not paying for repairs/replacement is the norm, not an outlier. You own a 360 yet you don't know this? Weird.dsmccracken
I don't have one. I refuse to pay for such a faulty product, despite the fact that it has great games. Why should I keep on paying for replacements? Its unacceptable. The 360 was rushed out for the sake of the competition, not the fans
This is what I meant. You are taking this thread in a direction it was not intended. You have hijacked this thread to discuss your own bias 360 agenda. What you are saying here is not relevant at all to the discussion of 360 games library vs. PS3 games library. THAT is why you are trolling. Guess you're right...fine, I apologizeAt the end of the day exclusives are the games that people use to determine which system to chose and MS fanboys shouldn't use games that arent exclusives to brag about their libraries superiority. Javy03Exclusives are what some use to choose systems. However, this is not a blanket statement that is universally true. It is very conceivable that some have chosen the 360 over the PS3 because of a multiplat like ME, and this is a completely valid choice. Therefore, it is valid to use said game(s) to discuss and compare libraries. I'm fine with not calling them exclusives, but to say that they shouldn't be mentioned at all? Nonsense.
Just as a quick aside, do you know what the single biggest factor was in my buying a PS3? MLB09. Not an exclusive... how can this be?!!!
I see it both ways and the 360 fans are those who do not seem to want to include PC when it comes to "exclusives" more often than not so far as I have noticed.its funny to see all the hypocrit remarks cows make. they say this is system war not console war. but when it comes to graphic king. they exclude pc. Well guess what cows, theres is no such thing as console graphic king. As this is "System war"
or when they do exclusive comparison they dont list down pc exclusives. they only want to compare with xbox 360.
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