When do the sheep get their benefits from wii sales?

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#151 qewrewq
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i dont go in to many ps3 psp threads mostly i just stick to fact based threads and anti nintendo threads so from what i have seen ragnarok is one of the biggest trolls on these boards and sure onyx is a fanboy, but from where i go as a norm he is defending not attack and that is not what a troll does.surrealnumber5

 

and that's where you're wrong, onyx attacks way more than he defends, anyway this argument is pointless, you're defending him for being a Wii fan. 

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#152 zaid55
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Sheep are not going to benefit from Wii sales. Mostly Nintendo games sell well and other games sell like crap. Why would developer want to waste so much time and effort into making good games for the Wii when no one buys them. Other then Nintendo the only other developer doing well is Capcom. What did they give the sheep? A port of a game from Last Gen and an 06 DOWNGRADED port. What did the 360/ps3 get? Oh i think we got plenty like DMC4, Lost planet and dont forget we are going to get RE5!!
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#153 surrealnumber5
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[QUOTE="surrealnumber5"]i dont go in to many ps3 psp threads mostly i just stick to fact based threads and anti nintendo threads so from what i have seen ragnarok is one of the biggest trolls on these boards and sure onyx is a fanboy, but from where i go as a norm he is defending not attack and that is not what a troll does.qewrewq

 

and that's where you're wrong, onyx attacks way more than he defends, anyway this argument is pointless, you're defending him for being a Wii fan. 

nope its not because he is a wii fan i am more of a pc fan then a wii fan and have called out other pc fans for trolling i am just telling it how i see it
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#154 Ragnarok1051
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[QUOTE="Ragnarok1051"][QUOTE="Gh0st_Of_0nyx"]

So here comes the fanboy in you ragnarok :roll:

Yea im going to go and check GR for other people opinions on games when I could just easily play them on my wii and judge for myself :roll: The wii has an amzing array of games and alot of shovelware but REAL gamers dont bother with that. I  know for a fact that you dont have a wii and take other people opinions on a consoles library instead of making your own judgements.

Gh0st_Of_0nyx

And let me guess you're not a fanboy? I've spent time with a Wii, my cousin owns one. The Wii is crap imo. You said that the Wii has a GOTY so that helps in the winning of a console war. Isn't that another person's opinion? Why would I listen to them when I can make the decision myself?

I am a fanboy but I atleast TRY a consoles library before I make a desicion you just get your opinions off of Gameranking :lol: I dont belive that you have even played half the wii good  games so your opinion on the wii library is speculation AT BEST :lol:

I doubt you've played a PS3 so I'll take what you say as speculation at best. 

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#155 nintendog66
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Have you seen the Wii's 09 lineup? It's made of 90% 3rd party games, all which are high profile games.

Not only that but we get a butt load of creative Mii's almost daily from the Check Mii Out channel, almost all of our online games are packed with people, specially SSBB which still has servers clogged up with people even 8 months after it's release and Mario Kart Wii which still has millions of people playing the game daily and virtually lag free.

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#156 Gh0st_Of_0nyx
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[QUOTE="surrealnumber5"]i dont go in to many ps3 psp threads mostly i just stick to fact based threads and anti nintendo threads so from what i have seen ragnarok is one of the biggest trolls on these boards and sure onyx is a fanboy, but from where i go as a norm he is defending not attack and that is not what a troll does.qewrewq

 

and that's where you're wrong, onyx attacks way more than he defends, anyway this argument is pointless, you're defending him for being a Wii fan. 

So because Im defending my choice of consoles and attack the ps3 that means im a troll :?

Hmmm I guess everyone on these boards is a troll based on your qualifications :roll:

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#157 JLF1
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one thing is clear

 

sony can maybe push out some first party games and multiplats for another 3 to 4 years.. but thats it.. they wont be able to go further then that

 

nintendos wii is now a market that can live on its own even without nintendo software.. look at the development shift in japan.. it is already happening

 

if you want japanese games you will need the wii in the future

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What development shift?
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#158 Ragnarok1051
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i dont go in to many ps3 psp threads mostly i just stick to fact based threads and anti nintendo threads so from what i have seen ragnarok is one of the biggest trolls on these boards and sure onyx is a fanboy, but from where i go as a norm he is defending not attack and that is not what a troll does. surrealnumber5

I have stated time and time again that I hate the Wii and yes I've played it. The only way you will see me attack a 360 is when an ignorant lemming is around that ticks me off, and yes I will attack the PS3 when an ignorant cow comes along.

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#159 dark-warmachine
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Yep, it sucks to be a sheep this gen. I don't know why anyone would spent their hard earn money on a Wii. It's just not worth it.
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#160 JLF1
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Have you seen the Wii's 09 lineup? It's made of 90% 3rd party games, all which are high profile games.

Not only that but we get a butt load of creative Mii's almost daily from the Check Mii Out channel, almost all of our online games are packed with people, specially SSBB which still has servers clogged up with people even 8 months after it's release and Mario Kart Wii which still has millions of people playing the game daily and virtually lag free.

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No offence but I don't think 90% of all Wii games for 09 are high profile games.
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#161 farnham
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look at namco bandai

 

they are making a lot more games for the wii

 

same with marvelous entertainment and sega

 

konami is on their way and square Enix will probably follow suit 

 

http://www.gametrailers.com/player/40713.html 

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#162 qewrewq
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[QUOTE="surrealnumber5"]i dont go in to many ps3 psp threads mostly i just stick to fact based threads and anti nintendo threads so from what i have seen ragnarok is one of the biggest trolls on these boards and sure onyx is a fanboy, but from where i go as a norm he is defending not attack and that is not what a troll does.Gh0st_Of_0nyx

 

and that's where you're wrong, onyx attacks way more than he defends, anyway this argument is pointless, you're defending him for being a Wii fan.

So because Im defending my choice of consoles and attack the ps3 that means im a troll :?

Hmmm I guess everyone on these boards is a troll based on your qualifications :roll:

you don't just defend the Wii, you also constantly bash the PS3. you're a troll, period.

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#163 Gh0st_Of_0nyx
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[QUOTE="surrealnumber5"]i dont go in to many ps3 psp threads mostly i just stick to fact based threads and anti nintendo threads so from what i have seen ragnarok is one of the biggest trolls on these boards and sure onyx is a fanboy, but from where i go as a norm he is defending not attack and that is not what a troll does. Ragnarok1051

I have stated time and time again that I hate the Wii and yes I've played it. The only way you will see me attack a 360 is when an ignorant lemming is around that ticks me off, and yes I will attack the PS3 when an ignorant cow comes along.

Umm no you havent you stated yourself that you get your opinions off of gameranking :wink:

 

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#164 Gh0st_Of_0nyx
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[QUOTE="Gh0st_Of_0nyx"][QUOTE="qewrewq"]

 

 

and that's where you're wrong, onyx attacks way more than he defends, anyway this argument is pointless, you're defending him for being a Wii fan.

qewrewq

So because Im defending my choice of consoles and attack the ps3 that means im a troll :?

Hmmm I guess everyone on these boards is a troll based on your qualifications :roll:

you don't just defend the Wii, you also constantly bash the PS3.  

I defend the 360 aswell and games like LBP from violence hungry lemmings that hate "kiddy" games. Maybe you should lok at my post count before making assumptions about another poster.
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#165 Ragnarok1051
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[QUOTE="Ragnarok1051"]

[QUOTE="surrealnumber5"]i dont go in to many ps3 psp threads mostly i just stick to fact based threads and anti nintendo threads so from what i have seen ragnarok is one of the biggest trolls on these boards and sure onyx is a fanboy, but from where i go as a norm he is defending not attack and that is not what a troll does. Gh0st_Of_0nyx

I have stated time and time again that I hate the Wii and yes I've played it. The only way you will see me attack a 360 is when an ignorant lemming is around that ticks me off, and yes I will attack the PS3 when an ignorant cow comes along.

Umm no you havent you stated yourself that you get your opinions off of gameranking :wink:

 

You get your GOTYs from the internet to so are you discredited?

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#166 qewrewq
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[QUOTE="qewrewq"][QUOTE="Gh0st_Of_0nyx"] So because Im defending my choice of consoles and attack the ps3 that means im a troll :?

 

Hmmm I guess everyone on these boards is a troll based on your qualifications :roll:

Gh0st_Of_0nyx

you don't just defend the Wii, you also constantly bash the PS3.

I defend the 360 aswell and games like LBP from violence hungry lemmings that hate "kiddy" games. Maybe you should lok at my post count before making assumptions about another poster.

LOL, ok..

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#167 Gh0st_Of_0nyx
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[QUOTE="Gh0st_Of_0nyx"][QUOTE="Ragnarok1051"]

 

I have stated time and time again that I hate the Wii and yes I've played it. The only way you will see me attack a 360 is when an ignorant lemming is around that ticks me off, and yes I will attack the PS3 when an ignorant cow comes along.

Ragnarok1051

Umm no you havent you stated yourself that you get your opinions off of gameranking :wink:

 

You get your GOTYs from the internet to so are you discredited?

AND I own and played it :wink: Its is GOTY material deffinetly :D
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#168 dark-warmachine
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[QUOTE="qewrewq"][QUOTE="Gh0st_Of_0nyx"] So because Im defending my choice of consoles and attack the ps3 that means im a troll :?

Hmmm I guess everyone on these boards is a troll based on your qualifications :roll:

Gh0st_Of_0nyx

you don't just defend the Wii, you also constantly bash the PS3.

I defend the 360 aswell and games like LBP from violence hungry lemmings that hate "kiddy" games. Maybe you should lok at my post count before making assumptions about another poster.

From my observation, you are a Wii fan who hides behind the 360 and constantly bash the ps3.

Am I right or am I right?

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#169 Ragnarok1051
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[QUOTE="Ragnarok1051"][QUOTE="Gh0st_Of_0nyx"] Umm no you havent you stated yourself that you get your opinions off of gameranking :wink:

 

 

Gh0st_Of_0nyx

You get your GOTYs from the internet to so are you discredited?

AND I own and played it :wink: Its is GOTY material deffinetly :D

Congratulations. So I assume since you bash me for not playing all the Wii games and talking smack about it, that you've played every PS3 game because you seem to bash them a lot.

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#170 Gh0st_Of_0nyx
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[QUOTE="Gh0st_Of_0nyx"][QUOTE="qewrewq"]

 

you don't just defend the Wii, you also constantly bash the PS3.

dark-warmachine

I defend the 360 aswell and games like LBP from violence hungry lemmings that hate "kiddy" games. Maybe you should lok at my post count before making assumptions about another poster.

From my observation, you are a Wii fan who hides behind the 360 and constantly bash the ps3.

Am I right or am I right?

I am a wii fan that does bash the ps3 but I certainly dont hid behind my 360 :P

I bash the 360 from time to time especially when It comes to rare and consoles quality issues.

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#171 Gh0st_Of_0nyx
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[QUOTE="Gh0st_Of_0nyx"][QUOTE="Ragnarok1051"]

 

You get your GOTYs from the internet to so are you discredited?

Ragnarok1051

AND I own and played it :wink: Its is GOTY material deffinetly :D

Confratulations. So I assume since you bash me for not playing all the Wii games and talking smack about it, that you've played every PS3 game because you seem to bash them a lot.

I havent played every ps3 game but I have played a majority of there exlsuive lineup and it dosent intrest me at all. I dont run to gameranking like you and make up my opinion on a systems lineup. The only ps3 game I NEED to play is LBP because that looks freaking amazing.
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#172 JLF1
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look at namco bandai

 

they are making a lot more games for the wii

 

same with marvelous entertainment and sega

 

konami is on their way and square Enix will probably follow suit

 

http://www.gametrailers.com/player/40713.html

farnham

It's not the number of games it's the number of quality games (yes scores matters here in SW).

So far from Namco the 360 has had:

Tales of vesperia
Eternal Sonata
Ace combat 6
Soul Calibur 4

and will soon have:

Tekken 6
Splatterhouse

Sega has had on the 360:

Sega Rally
Condemned
Condemned 2
Virua Tennis
Chromehounds
Virta Figher 5
The Club
Armored core 4
Sega Superstar Tennis

And will soon have:
Aliens
Stormrise
Sega Mega Drive Ultimate collection
Sonic's Ultimate collection
Bayonetta
Sonic Unleashed


S-E will in the future have:
Final Fantasy XIII
The Last Remnant
Star Ocean 4

Could you please give a list on Wii games from these companies that could counter these games, I've only added games with 7 or higher and promising titles that has yet to be reviewed.

EDIT: The only shift from third party developer on the Wii is that they have actually started taking it somewhat serious
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#173 Ragnarok1051
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[QUOTE="Ragnarok1051"][QUOTE="Gh0st_Of_0nyx"] AND I own and played it :wink: Its is GOTY material deffinetly :DGh0st_Of_0nyx

 

Confratulations. So I assume since you bash me for not playing all the Wii games and talking smack about it, that you've played every PS3 game because you seem to bash them a lot.

I havent played every ps3 game but I have played a majority of there exlsuive lineup and it dosent intrest me at all. I dont run to gameranking like you and make up my opinion on a systems lineup. The only ps3 game I NEED to play is LBP because that looks freaking amazing.

I use my own judgement for how good a game is. I'm going by what everyone else does on this board and uses scores to determine a game, that is the only concrete way of doing that. I'm sure this is how you do it as well.

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#174 Gh0st_Of_0nyx
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[QUOTE="Gh0st_Of_0nyx"][QUOTE="Ragnarok1051"]

 

Confratulations. So I assume since you bash me for not playing all the Wii games and talking smack about it, that you've played every PS3 game because you seem to bash them a lot.

Ragnarok1051

I havent played every ps3 game but I have played a majority of there exlsuive lineup and it dosent intrest me at all. I dont run to gameranking like you and make up my opinion on a systems lineup. The only ps3 game I NEED to play is LBP because that looks freaking amazing.

I use my own judgement for how good a game is. I'm going by what everyone else does on this board and uses scores to determine a game, that is the only concrete way of doing that. I'm sure this is how you do it as well.

Umm No you dont you said on the last page the wii's lineup is poor and then reference gamerankings.

You dont even own a wii and are basing your judgement on what some internet site says instread of actually playing and trying. The way I do it is I play a game and then check online to see if I think the score is aligned with what I thought of the game when I played it.

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#175 Toriko42
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lol you are actually correct in your arguement but im pretty sure the next zelda and mario will ownsuperjim42
I've almost given up on that next Zelda game, if it does I might love Nintendo unless it becomes like Wii Zelda: Minigames

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#176 VendettaRed07
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its strange but sales seems to be hurting them, because now nintendo doesnt need to try as hard as they used to in order to pull in gamers and convince them to buy their system, everyones already buying it so what do they need to do?
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#177 farnham
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not gonna start a list war because that never ends well

 

but the next mainline tales of game is exclusive for the wii

taiko no tatsujin is on wii

madworld and house of the dead overkill is on the wii

 

and square enix is already working a lot more with nintendo then sony or ms combined (mainly because of the DS but they already have sales successes on the wii like DQ swords) 

 

well you might have given up on zelda but the nintendofans have not since every zelda game ever was great (minus the Cdi games of course) 

 

its strange but sales seems to be hurting them, because now nintendo doesnt need to try as hard as they used to in order to pull in gamers and convince them to buy their system, everyones already buying it so what do they need to do?VendettaRed07
this is some of the dumbest arguments i ever heard

 

its not like nintendo made some turds when they were not selling a lot

 

in the gc days there were a lot of underwhelming games as well.. 

the production speed of nintendo only has gotten better 

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#178 CleanPlayer
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Ya have a good point, honeslty with all the money Nintendo is making, next year should be packed with MARIO MARIO and ZElda.
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#179 qewrewq
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[QUOTE="Gh0st_Of_0nyx"][QUOTE="qewrewq"]

 

you don't just defend the Wii, you also constantly bash the PS3.

dark-warmachine

I defend the 360 aswell and games like LBP from violence hungry lemmings that hate "kiddy" games. Maybe you should lok at my post count before making assumptions about another poster.

From my observation, you are a Wii fan who hides behind the 360 and constantly bash the ps3.

Am I right or am I right?

you pretty much nailed it.

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#180 JLF1
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not gonna start a list war because that never ends well

 

but the next mainline tales of game is exclusive for the wii

taiko no tatsujin is on wii

madworld and house of the dead overkill is on the wii

 

and square enix is already working a lot more with nintendo then sony or ms combined (mainly because of the DS but they already have sales successes on the wii like DQ swords)

farnham


The DS has nothing to do with the Wii though. Yes DQ:S was a sucess but they have yet too announce a new Wii game, last year FF:CB was announced but under that time Star Ocean 4, Infinte Undiscovery and The last Remnant was announced for the 360.


Tales of Symphonia: Dawn of the new world is not a main tales games, it'a spinoff from the original GC game. The latest main tales game was Tales of Vesperia on the 360 from the developes of Tales of Symphonia on the GC.

Wii games are announced constantly but not more games than on other consoles.

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#181 RuinedMachine
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Why are lemmings and cows even arguing over this? Let the sheep have their SW winner.

Lemmings and cows will be laughing their way to second and third place.
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#182 clone01
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Sheep always say that wii sales benefit them in a way in which game developers will see the success of the wii and develop quality games for their console. Where are these games? In development?

All I've seen is a downgraded 360 port from '06. Don't tell me that only Nintendo benefits from it's sales and not the consumer who expected a sleu of excellent 3rd party games due to their investments success.:o

CB4McGusto

the Wii does have some excellent 3rd party games, just not as many as the 360/PS3. but a lot of nintendo fans, like myself, buy nintendo for the 1st party stuff, which is great.

but hey, good luck with your troll thread.

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#183 farnham
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[QUOTE="farnham"]

not gonna start a list war because that never ends well

 

but the next mainline tales of game is exclusive for the wii

taiko no tatsujin is on wii

madworld and house of the dead overkill is on the wii

 

and square enix is already working a lot more with nintendo then sony or ms combined (mainly because of the DS but they already have sales successes on the wii like DQ swords)

JLF1


The DS has nothing to do with the Wii though. Yes DQ:S was a sucess but they have yet too announce a new Wii game, last year FF:CB was announced but under that time Star Ocean 4, Infinte Undiscovery and The last Remnant was announced for the 360.


Tales of Symphonia: Dawn of the new world is not a main tales games, it'a spinoff from the original GC game. The latest main tales game was Tales of Vesperia on the 360 from the developes of Tales of Symphonia on the GC.

Wii games are announced constantly but not more games than on other consoles.

 

the "next" mainline tales game is comming to wii 

 

it was annuonced this TGS 

 

and most of the 360 games from Square enix are from triace

 

what the mainine square enix teams are doing (aside of ff xiii and versus) is not known

 

and nintendo is the biggest partner for Square enix its pretty clear that they have to support the wii (unless they want another licence banning from nintendo consoles like back in the N64 days) 

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#184 Kratos_OMEGA
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[QUOTE="air_wolf_cubed"]Sales = Game fundings. Put 2 and 2 together and youll see the benefitsHarlockJC

Don't look like Nintendo is putting use any of that money with **** like wii music. I guess you can call that beneficial, huh?

Tell me as a consumer, what have you benefited off Nintendo's profit?

You may not like it but there is a big demand for games like Wii music. It helping Nintendo keep their lead.

"It looks to me as if the Wii is going to have at least half the installed base of the overall industry and the Xbox 360 and PS3 are going to fight over the balance, based on the run-rates we're seeing." - EA's Peter Moore

 

Big demand for Wii music? Except theres not...people realised it's crap...even the grannies. hence the piss poor sales.

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#185 JLF1
Member since 2005 • 8263 Posts

 

the "next" mainline tales game is comming to wii

 

it was annuonced this TGS

 

and most of the 360 games from Square enix are from triace

 

what the mainine square enix teams are doing (aside of ff xiii and versus) is not known

 

and nintendo is the biggest partner for Square enix its pretty clear that they have to support the wii (unless they want another licence banning from nintendo consoles like back in the N64 days)

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Any link for that next tales game?

All of the main S-E teams are working to get FFXIII and FFvXIII, Kingdom hearts ds and Kingdom hearts PSP out on the market.

Nintendo is the biggest partner for S-E on the handhelds not the consoles and what do you mean by another licence ban?