When does a new generation begin?

When Sony says it does.

BPoole96

A console that plays current gen games is a next gen console?Cranler

The 360 played current-gen/previous-gen multiplats, for example, Gun. Want to try again?

[QUOTE="Cranler"]A console that plays current gen games is a next gen console?lundy86_4

The 360 played current-gen/previous-gen multiplats, for example, Gun. Want to try again?

Cod 2 was a 360 launch game required a high end pc to match the 360 version. E3 2005 showed upcoming 360 games that couldnt even be done in sd on ps2 and xbox. Try again.Cranler

Why would I need to try again? You started the topic by basing a next-gen console as not sharing multiplats -- or at least, it was insinuated. That was incorrect, as the 360 shared multiplats with the previous generation.

Now, as to your current comment, power is not involved with what systems are in what generation. It's a concern of when they are released. The definition of the word references nothing regarding power. Even in the world of electronics.

I would say a new generation doesn't truely begin until the majority of games are made exclusively for the latest game consoles.

That's the point where the games are being built with the new hardware in mind, not just some extra effects on top of last gen games.

[QUOTE="Cranler"]Cod 2 was a 360 launch game required a high end pc to match the 360 version. E3 2005 showed upcoming 360 games that couldnt even be done in sd on ps2 and xbox. Try again.lundy86_4

Why would I need to try again? You started the topic by basing a next-gen console as not sharing multiplats -- or at least, it was insinuated. That was incorrect, as the 360 shared multiplats with the previous generation.

Now, as to your current comment, power is not involved with what systems are in what generation. It's a concern of when they are released. The definition of the word references nothing regarding power. Even in the world of electronics.

[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

[QUOTE="Cranler"]Cod 2 was a 360 launch game required a high end pc to match the 360 version. E3 2005 showed upcoming 360 games that couldnt even be done in sd on ps2 and xbox. Try again.Cranler

Why would I need to try again? You started the topic by basing a next-gen console as not sharing multiplats -- or at least, it was insinuated. That was incorrect, as the 360 shared multiplats with the previous generation.

Now, as to your current comment, power is not involved with what systems are in what generation. It's a concern of when they are released. The definition of the word references nothing regarding power. Even in the world of electronics.

According to rumours, yes they are. Now, did you miss the latter portion of my post? It seems you did.

[QUOTE="ShadowDeathX"]It has already started when Nintendo released the 3DS. Sony then launched a new platform, the Vita. Soon Nintendo will release the Wii U.Cranler

Umm I don't know...because handhelds are consoles as well. :)

"The Nintendo 3DS (3DS Nintend Sur D Esu?, abbreviated to 3DS) is a portable game console produced by Nintendo."

"The PlayStation Vita(Pureisutshon Vta?, officially abbreviated PS Vita) is a handheld game console manufactured and marketed by Sony Computer Entertainment."

who's looking forward to voting on new rules for downloadable games?

CaseyWegner

[QUOTE="Cranler"][QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

Why would I need to try again? You started the topic by basing a next-gen console as not sharing multiplats -- or at least, it was insinuated. That was incorrect, as the 360 shared multiplats with the previous generation.

Now, as to your current comment, power is not involved with what systems are in what generation. It's a concern of when they are released. The definition of the word references nothing regarding power. Even in the world of electronics.

lundy86_4

According to rumours, yes they are. Now, did you miss the latter portion of my post? It seems you did.

[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

who's looking forward to voting on new rules for downloadable games?

santoron

it sure is. can you just picture the thread title..."Should downloadable games count as full games when comparing systems?" and having the outcome finally mean something?

Free dictionary.com:5. a. A stage or period of sequential technological development and innovation. Is Arkham City or ME 3 1080p? COD 2 was DX9 and 720p. Thats would be todays equivalent of 1080p and dx11.Cranler

You may want to quote what term you searched, as i'm having trouble finding your definition. The sequential technological development is there (Wii to Wii-U), as is the innovation (controller). BLOPS has been noted as running in "Full-HD" according to their speech at the Wii-U conference, and Batman AC/ACIII are also rumoured to run at 1080p.

[QUOTE="Cranler"][QUOTE="ShadowDeathX"]It has already started when Nintendo released the 3DS. Sony then launched a new platform, the Vita. Soon Nintendo will release the Wii U.ShadowDeathX

Umm I don't know...because handhelds are consoles as well. :)

"The Nintendo 3DS (3DS Nintend Sur D Esu?, abbreviated to 3DS) is a portable game console produced by Nintendo."

"The PlayStation Vita(Pureisutshon Vta?, officially abbreviated PS Vita) is a handheld game console manufactured and marketed by Sony Computer Entertainment."

[QUOTE="santoron"][QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

who's looking forward to voting on new rules for downloadable games?

CaseyWegner

it sure is. can you just picture the thread title..."Should downloadable games count as full games when comparing systems?" and having the outcome finally mean something?

[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

[QUOTE="santoron"] *Raises hand*. Only for about five years now :P. Is this gonna really happen finally?fadersdream

it sure is. can you just picture the thread title..."Should downloadable games count as full games when comparing systems?" and having the outcome finally mean something?

should be an all or nothing thing. considering the way things have been here for the past few years, i'm pretty sure the votes will favor the "all."

[QUOTE="Cranler"]Free dictionary.com:5. a. A stage or period of sequential technological development and innovation. Is Arkham City or ME 3 1080p? COD 2 was DX9 and 720p. Thats would be todays equivalent of 1080p and dx11.lundy86_4

You may want to quote what term you searched, as i'm having trouble finding your definition. The sequential technological development is there (Wii to Wii-U), as is the innovation (controller). BLOPS has been noted as running in "Full-HD" according to their speech at the Wii-U conference, and Batman AC/ACIII are also rumoured to run at 1080p.

[QUOTE="fadersdream"][QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

it sure is. can you just picture the thread title..."Should downloadable games count as full games when comparing systems?" and having the outcome finally mean something?

CaseyWegner

should be an all or nothing thing. considering the way things have been here for the past few years, i'm pretty sure the votes will favor the "all."

Not my fault youre inept at finding something that took me seconds. COD 2 had great graphics fori ts time but its terrible now. COD 2 720p is much better than BO 2 at 1080p now. Wheres the next gen upcoming wiiu games?Cranler

Quote the exact term. Stop being a baby.

Now you're just applying your arbitrary limitations to try and prove your point. We've meandered into the "Cranler's opinions are sh*t" territory :)

What's a gaming generation? My PC doesn't understand this strange concept of yours' :P

[QUOTE="Cranler"]Not my fault youre inept at finding something that took me seconds. COD 2 had great graphics fori ts time but its terrible now. COD 2 720p is much better than BO 2 at 1080p now. Wheres the next gen upcoming wiiu games?lundy86_4

Quote the exact term. Stop being a baby.

Now you're just applying your arbitrary limitations to try and prove your point. We've meandered into the "Cranler's opinions are sh*t" territory :)

When the 3DS launched.

gears and oblivion were mindblowing next gen games when they were shown during the 360 announcement. Wheres nintendos next gen for the industry games?Cranler

Ok, i'm getting out of this. "mindblowing" is an arbitrarily defined term, thus no matter what I put forth, you will state that it isn't "mindblowing". I put forth my arguments in previous comments.

When the next major iteration of handheld, or console is released.Zeviander

[QUOTE="Cranler"]gears and oblivion were mindblowing next gen games when they were shown during the 360 announcement. Wheres nintendos next gen for the industry games?lundy86_4

Ok, i'm getting out of this. "mindblowing" is an arbitrarily defined term, thus no matter what I put forth, you will state that it isn't "mindblowing". I put forth my arguments in previous comments.

[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

[QUOTE="Cranler"] Cod 2 was a next gen game. Oblivion and Gears were shown before the 360 launch. nintendo has shown nothing next gen. Gun was in 720p on 360. Are any wiiu multiplats in 1080p?Cranler

According to rumours, yes they are. Now, did you miss the latter portion of my post? It seems you did.

All current gen COD games run below 720P.

[QUOTE="Zeviander"]When the next major iteration of handheld, or console is released.Cranler

[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

[QUOTE="Cranler"]gears and oblivion were mindblowing next gen games when they were shown during the 360 announcement. Wheres nintendos next gen for the industry games?Cranler

Ok, i'm getting out of this. "mindblowing" is an arbitrarily defined term, thus no matter what I put forth, you will state that it isn't "mindblowing". I put forth my arguments in previous comments.

It's apparent you aren't reading my posts. If you wish to be enlightened, refer to my previous posts, in which i've already addressed what you keep repeating.

[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

[QUOTE="fadersdream"] This is one of those things that will probably pass based on how little people REALLY care. But it will open flood gates of what counts and how to determine, what qualifies and what disqualifies.fadersdream

should be an all or nothing thing. considering the way things have been here for the past few years, i'm pretty sure the votes will favor the "all."

the vote wouldn't involve something like determining what kind of downloadable game would count. it would be whether they count or not in general. you don't think plants vs zombies should count as a full game though?

[QUOTE="Cranler"][QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

According to rumours, yes they are. Now, did you miss the latter portion of my post? It seems you did.

super600

All current gen COD games run below 720P.

[QUOTE="Cranler"][QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

Ok, i'm getting out of this. "mindblowing" is an arbitrarily defined term, thus no matter what I put forth, you will state that it isn't "mindblowing". I put forth my arguments in previous comments.

lundy86_4

It's apparent you aren't reading my posts. If you wish to be enlightened, refer to my previous posts, in which i've already addressed what you keep repeating.

[QUOTE="Cranler"][QUOTE="Zeviander"]When the next major iteration of handheld, or console is released.OreoMilkshake

Wiiu could be classified as a next gen console if it had games that ps360 couldnt run.Cranler

This is not a pre-requisite... Anywhere.

Last of Us was the most impressive console game shown at e3. Pretty embarassing for nintendo. 360 overshadowed everything at e3 2005.Cranler

Read through my posts, seriously.

[QUOTE="Cranler"]Wiiu could be classified as a next gen console if it had games that ps360 couldnt run.lundy86_4

This is not a pre-requisite... Anywhere.

Last of Us was the most impressive console game shown at e3. Pretty embarassing for nintendo. 360 overshadowed everything at e3 2005.Cranler

Read through my posts, seriously.

next generation used to describe a product that has been developed using the latest technology and will probably replace an existing product http://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/business-english/next-generation

Nothing there about some company whose 6 years late to the game.

According to youre rationale the 360 started a new gen then the ps 3 started another gen after that.

Just wait for the e3 the year the 720 launches, then we'll see some real next gen games.

[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

[QUOTE="Cranler"]Wiiu could be classified as a next gen console if it had games that ps360 couldnt run.Cranler

This is not a pre-requisite... Anywhere.

Last of Us was the most impressive console game shown at e3. Pretty embarassing for nintendo. 360 overshadowed everything at e3 2005.Cranler

Read through my posts, seriously.

next generation used to describe a product that has been developed using the latest technology and will probably replace an existing producthttp://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/business-english/next-generation

Nothing there about some company whose 6 years late to the game.

According to youre rationale the 360 started a new gen then the ps 3 started another gen after that.

Just wait for the e3 the year the 720 launches, then we'll see some real next gen games.

next generation used to describe a product that has been developed using the latest technology and will probably replace an existing product http://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/business-english/next-generation

Nothing there about some company whose 6 years late to the game.

According to youre rationale the 360 started a new gen then the ps 3 started another gen after that.

Just wait for the e3 the year the 720 launches, then we'll see some real next gen games.

Cranler

No, your misunderstanding of my rationale claims that.

BTW, unless you know the specific parts of the Wii-U, you cannot claim that it does not use the latest technology. Even newer series GPU's, as an example, have lower-clocked entries. Meaning, they are overall weaker, yet are still newer technology.

Done.

[QUOTE="Cranler"]

[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

Read through my posts, seriously.

Nintendo_Ownes7

next generation used to describe a product that has been developed using the latest technology and will probably replace an existing producthttp://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/business-english/next-generation

Nothing there about some company whose 6 years late to the game.

According to youre rationale the 360 started a new gen then the ps 3 started another gen after that.

Just wait for the e3 the year the 720 launches, then we'll see some real next gen games.

[QUOTE="Cranler"]

next generation used to describe a product that has been developed using the latest technology and will probably replace an existing product http://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/business-english/next-generation

Nothing there about some company whose 6 years late to the game.

According to youre rationale the 360 started a new gen then the ps 3 started another gen after that.

Just wait for the e3 the year the 720 launches, then we'll see some real next gen games.

lundy86_4

No, your misunderstanding of my rationale claims that.

BTW, unless you know the specific parts of the Wii-U, you cannot claim that it does not use the latest technology. Even newer series GPU's, as an example, have lower-clocked entries. Meaning, they are overall weaker, yet are still newer technology.

Done.

[QUOTE="ShadowDeathX"]

[QUOTE="Cranler"] How are console gens affected by handhelds?Cranler

Umm I don't know...because handhelds are consoles as well. :)

"The Nintendo 3DS (3DS Nintend Sur D Esu?, abbreviated to 3DS) is a portable game console produced by Nintendo."

"The PlayStation Vita(Pureisutshon Vta?, officially abbreviated PS Vita) is a handheld game console manufactured and marketed by Sony Computer Entertainment."

[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

No, your misunderstanding of my rationale claims that.

BTW, unless you know the specific parts of the Wii-U, you cannot claim that it does not use the latest technology. Even newer series GPU's, as an example, have lower-clocked entries. Meaning, they are overall weaker, yet are still newer technology.

Done.

Cranler

Way to avoid addressing any of my post.

[QUOTE="Cranler"][QUOTE="ShadowDeathX"]

Umm I don't know...because handhelds are consoles as well. :)

"The Nintendo 3DS (3DS Nintend Sur D Esu?, abbreviated to 3DS) is a portable game console produced by Nintendo."

"The PlayStation Vita(Pureisutshon Vta?, officially abbreviated PS Vita) is a handheld game console manufactured and marketed by Sony Computer Entertainment."

ShadowDeathX

[QUOTE="Cranler"][QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

No, your misunderstanding of my rationale claims that.

BTW, unless you know the specific parts of the Wii-U, you cannot claim that it does not use the latest technology. Even newer series GPU's, as an example, have lower-clocked entries. Meaning, they are overall weaker, yet are still newer technology.

Done.

lundy86_4

Way to avoid addressing any of my post.

I would say a new generation doesn't truely begin until the majority of games are made exclusively for the latest game consoles.

That's the point where the games are being built with the new hardware in mind, not just some extra effects on top of last gen games.

Wasdie

[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

[QUOTE="Cranler"] If I was about to launch a killer, bleeding edge console I'd hype it to hell and back just like MS did in 2005. Cranler

Way to avoid addressing any of my post.

Again, that's not addressing my post. Try reading and comprehending what is said.

[QUOTE="Cranler"][QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

Way to avoid addressing any of my post.

lundy86_4

Again, that's not addressing my post. Try reading and comprehending what is said.

[QUOTE="Wasdie"]

I would say a new generation doesn't truely begin until the majority of games are made exclusively for the latest game consoles.

That's the point where the games are being built with the new hardware in mind, not just some extra effects on top of last gen games.

Cranler

it also leaves out sales so that makes it nice.