When does a new generation begin?

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#151 cfstar
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Technically when the Wii-U releases.

But seeing as it's not exactly a big leap forward in terms of technology for consoles, you could be forgiven for saying that it starts... Whenever M$ or $ony release their plataform.

When I upgrade my PC.

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Oh yeah this too. lol

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#152 AmazonTreeBoa
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when capt. kirk gets replaced by picard

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That is true.
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#153 Joedgabe
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when the games made for it are released (?) The wii-U may be out.. but until a Next generation games releases for it it hasn't started.

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#154 Cranler
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[QUOTE="Cranler"][QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

Quote the exact term. Stop being a baby.

Now you're just applying your arbitrary limitations to try and prove your point. We've meandered into the "Cranler's opinions are sh*t" territory :)

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gears and oblivion were mindblowing next gen games when they were shown during the 360 announcement. Wheres nintendos next gen for the industry games?

Could NSMBU be done on the 360?

Could NSMBU be done the PS3? Could ZombiU?

No, they require the GamePad.

Edit: Nintendoland applies here as well; the asymmetric touch screen motion-controlled gameplay is impossible on other systems other than wii u.

Ergo new technology, ergo even if you don't use the release date argument the wii u counts, thanks to the new technology included (gamepad).

The only reason ZombiU isn't mindblowing and Gears is to you is because you don't like nintendo, you like MS, and you don't like new control methods, you like graphics. All of these are opinions.

You could have said the same thing about wii's motion controls 6 years ago and we saw how easily motion controls were implememnted on ps360. Sony has already combined touch contols with sticks on the Vita and has plans for integrating the Vita with the PS3. Does that make the ps3 a next gen console now too? Of course with Sony you have a choice while it looks like Nintendo is forcing the use of this gigantic controller. http://www.forbes.com/sites/danielnyegriffiths/2012/06/04/sony-announces-cross-controller/

Looks to me like taking your eyes off the screen to look at the controller is an immersion killer, especially in a game like Zombie u.

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#155 Cranler
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[QUOTE="Cranler"]

[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

Read through my posts, seriously.

ryaxnb

next generation used to describe a product that has been developed using the latest technology and will probably replace an existing product http://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/business-english/next-generation

Nothing there about some company whose 6 years late to the game.

According to youre rationale the 360 started a new gen then the ps 3 started another gen after that.

Just wait for the e3 the year the 720 launches, then we'll see some real next gen games.

Latest technology, like according to rumors, the Radeon HD 6xxx series DX10.1 capable, a tri core out of order execution SMP 45nm processor, a high-speed low-latency wireless controller linkup for display + motion + buttons, and replaces the Wii, an existing product in the 360/ps3/wii generation.

Meets your definition for sure.

DX 10.1 isnt latest tech. 360 had launch games that only a high end pc could match. Why does Zombi u look worse than many current gen games?
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#156 Cranler
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[QUOTE="Cranler"][QUOTE="cainetao11"]No. A generation has the console manufacturers LATEST consoles in it. Notice, the plurals. This is the way it is done here. If you dont agree, that's cool. Freedom is what I defend. But maybe you would be more at home in another forum. Everyone knows there are things in SW that can be scrutinized. It doesnt revolve around your opinion, nor mine.ryaxnb

A next gen game console that has no next gen games and is the first nintendo console to directly compete against the ps360. That makes a lot of sense.

The wii very directly competed against the 360 and Ps3, that's why move and kinect were born.

To handle the loss of gaming marketshare to the ps360.

The wii didnt compete directly with the ps360. MS and Sony were simply looking to expand on their demographic. wii was a fad. People who werent into games wanted one. People who wanted to play competitive mp or cutting edge actions games had to choose between ps360 and pc.
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#157 Cranler
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[QUOTE="Cranler"][QUOTE="cainetao11"] the term exclusive can de defined as excluding one of a group. As in saloons during the building of the rail roads in the US excluding blacks, but allowing whites and the asian workers of said rail roads. By that logical definition, PC/360 games exclude the PS3, and therefore are exclusive. But not here in SW. that isnt the definition of exclusive here. This is how it works. Again, if you dont like it, there are other forums. And Zombie U is not on the PS3 or 360 but will be on the Wii U. A next gen title. EDIT: also, the Wii did compete directly with the PS3 and 360. Many people went to the store, and spent their money on the Wii instead of a PS3 or 360. ryaxnb

The wii went after nintendo fanboys and soccer moms. PS 360 goes after tech savvy peeps who like shooters and other action games like Resi Evil, DMC and Ninja Gaiden. The experience you get on a wii is nothing like that of ps360. Designed for a different demographic, they compete indirectly at best. Now nintendo is going after all the people who dont care about wii. Zombie u is Nintendos answer to L4D and Resi Evil. So Zombie u is a next gen game even though Last of Us and Sleeping Dogs are way more advanced? People also went to the store and bought a no frills phone instead of an S3 or Iphone 5. So consoles are in the same gen based on the proximity of release? 360 is MS 2nd gen console, PS 3 is obviously their 3rd gen and whats Nintendo at 7 or 8? So if the wii had never been released and the wiiu was the sucessor to the gamecube , the wiiu would then be a current gen console? lulz So Apple for instance could launch a super weak console with graphics from 2000 and its would be considered next gen?

Kinect destroys that argument, move destroys that argument, Just Dance being multiplat destroys that argument, Lego Star Wars, Viva Pinata, MS owns rare, Sony owns Singstar, etc etc etc. etc

Keep thinking your 360 is the shooterbox and a comfy home for core games, everyone is going after that sweet casual money.

wii has a very limited scope while the 360 and ps3 can appeal to a much broader demographic. 360 is the best console for shooters and has lots of great core games, ps 3 has the best sp action exclusives while the wii has nothing at all for these types of gamers. 360 appeals to core gamers and casuals alike, something the wii cant do. wiiu is trying win over the core gamers with Bayonetta 2 and Zombie u. For someone who doesnt own a console the wiiiu would actually be the worst choice. You could buy a ps3, 360 and a bunch of great games for less than the wiiu with its launch games.
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#158 PS360Wii4eva
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next gen starts when Sega says so...Nengo_Flow
My thoughts exactly
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#159 AmazonTreeBoa
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[QUOTE="Nengo_Flow"]next gen starts when Sega says so...PS360Wii4eva
My thoughts exactly

Then there would never be a new gen.:shock::?:cry::x:evil::twisted:

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#160 lundy86_4
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MFW Cranler is still in this thread:

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