when will 360 show graphics like Uncharted 2/Killzone2?

[QUOTE="KH-mixerX"]

Dude, you just need to stop while your ahead. Don't you hear yourself? Saying MGS4 is atrocious graphically is completely ludicrous. It's one of the most graphically impressive games released this generation so far. Just stop. Your only hurting your own reputation here.

washd123

ive given my reason why its atrocious. if theyre wrong then how about countering them instead of just saying its one of the most graphically impressive games.

if all those things i listed are wrong prove it. simple as that until then im not the one without credibility.

I don't have to prove it. None of the points you stated are true. MGS4 as a graphical masterpiece is a widely known fact. It's like claiming the sun doesn't exist. Would I need to disprove you? No, because everyone with eyes knows that it exists. Ask anyone in this thread. Actually, forget that. Ask anyone on these forums if MGS4 is one of the most impressive games in the graphics department so far this generation. I can guarantee that an overwhelming number of them would say yes. But don't take my word for it, do the research yourself.

EDIT:

http://www.gamespot.com/ps3/adventure/metalgearsolid4/video/6192533/metal-gear-solid-4-guns-of-the-patriots-video-review-?tag=summary;watch-review

Here's the link to the GS video review of MGS4. About 5 min. into the video, Kevin VanOrd starts taling about exactly what we're arguing about. Just watch it and get back to me.

The 360 simply can't achieve what the PS3 can. It's as simple as that. The cell processor on the Ps3 is way more powerful, plus the PS3 has 8 core processors, the 360 only has 3. Only a few developers (Naughty Dog, Guerrila Games, Insomniac) really take advantage of it, but when they do, the experience is second to none. Not to bash the 360, ODST and Gears are beautiful games. But they can't compete with Uncharted 2 and Killzone 2. Uncharted 2 was made in 18 month. How long was ODST in development?

There isn't an argument here. The 360 can't even render and project true 1080p.

never, but graphics don't make a game, which is why Uncharted 2 is great and Killzone 2 and Gears of War are garbage.

The 360 simply can't achieve what the PS3 can. It's as simple as that. The cell processor on the Ps3 is way more powerful, plus the PS3 has 8 core processors, the 360 only has 3. Only a few developers (Naughty Dog, Guerrila Games, Insomniac) really take advantage of it, but when they do, the experience is second to none. Not to bash the 360, ODST and Gears are beautiful games. But they can't compete with Uncharted 2 and Killzone 2. Uncharted 2 was made in 18 month. How long was ODST in development?

There isn't an argument here. The 360 can't even render and project true 1080p.

lulznub

I don't have to prove it. None of the points you stated are true. MGS4 as a graphical masterpiece is a widely known fact. It's like claiming the sun doesn't exist. Would I need to disprove you? No, because everyone with eyes knows that it exists. Ask anyone in this thread. Actually, forget that. Ask anyone on these forums if MGS4 is one of the most impressive games in the graphics department so far this generation. I can guarantee that an overwhelming number of them would say yes. But don't take my word for it, do the research yourself.

EDIT:

http://www.gamespot.com/ps3/adventure/metalgearsolid4/video/6192533/metal-gear-solid-4-guns-of-the-patriots-video-review-?tag=summary;watch-review

Here's the link to the GS video review of MGS4. About 5 min. into the video, Kevin VanOrd starts taling about exactly what we're arguing about. Just watch it and get back to me.

KH-mixerX

the vid just shows extally what im talkng about, poor textures sub hd res aa issues, poor shadows prebaked lighting, all FACTS.

the reviwer is an idiot if he thinks it was technically impressive especially withuncharted already being out

if it looks good to you thats great but im nt arguing looks only technical fact, ike i said before i gave specific examples, if im wrong prove them wrong

[QUOTE="KH-mixerX"]

I don't have to prove it. None of the points you stated are true. MGS4 as a graphical masterpiece is a widely known fact. It's like claiming the sun doesn't exist. Would I need to disprove you? No, because everyone with eyes knows that it exists. Ask anyone in this thread. Actually, forget that. Ask anyone on these forums if MGS4 is one of the most impressive games in the graphics department so far this generation. I can guarantee that an overwhelming number of them would say yes. But don't take my word for it, do the research yourself.

EDIT:

http://www.gamespot.com/ps3/adventure/metalgearsolid4/video/6192533/metal-gear-solid-4-guns-of-the-patriots-video-review-?tag=summary;watch-review

Here's the link to the GS video review of MGS4. About 5 min. into the video, Kevin VanOrd starts taling about exactly what we're arguing about. Just watch it and get back to me.

washd123

the vid just shows extally what im talkng about, poor textures sub hd res aa issues, poor shadows prebaked lighting, all FACTS.

the reviwer is an idiot if he thinks it was technically impressive especially withuncharted already being out

[QUOTE="lulznub"]

The 360 simply can't achieve what the PS3 can. It's as simple as that. The cell processor on the Ps3 is way more powerful, plus the PS3 has 8 core processors, the 360 only has 3. Only a few developers (Naughty Dog, Guerrila Games, Insomniac) really take advantage of it, but when they do, the experience is second to none. Not to bash the 360, ODST and Gears are beautiful games. But they can't compete with Uncharted 2 and Killzone 2. Uncharted 2 was made in 18 month. How long was ODST in development?

There isn't an argument here. The 360 can't even render and project true 1080p.

navyguy21

Really? Tell me one thing I posted that was false.

[QUOTE="navyguy21"][QUOTE="lulznub"]

The 360 simply can't achieve what the PS3 can. It's as simple as that. The cell processor on the Ps3 is way more powerful, plus the PS3 has 8 core processors, the 360 only has 3. Only a few developers (Naughty Dog, Guerrila Games, Insomniac) really take advantage of it, but when they do, the experience is second to none. Not to bash the 360, ODST and Gears are beautiful games. But they can't compete with Uncharted 2 and Killzone 2. Uncharted 2 was made in 18 month. How long was ODST in development?

There isn't an argument here. The 360 can't even render and project true 1080p.

lulznub

Really? Tell me one thing I posted that was false.

The Xbox 360 wasn't designed to last this long, the graphical capabilities in it are not nearly as powerful as those inside the PS3, so while the 360 was always cheaper, the PS3 was always designed to have more potential, despite being more expensive.get-ka12

[QUOTE="lulznub"]

The 360 simply can't achieve what the PS3 can. It's as simple as that. The cell processor on the Ps3 is way more powerful, plus the PS3 has 8 core processors, the 360 only has 3. Only a few developers (Naughty Dog, Guerrila Games, Insomniac) really take advantage of it, but when they do, the experience is second to none. Not to bash the 360, ODST and Gears are beautiful games. But they can't compete with Uncharted 2 and Killzone 2. Uncharted 2 was made in 18 month. How long was ODST in development?

There isn't an argument here. The 360 can't even render and project true 1080p.

lulznub

Tell me one thing I posted that was false.

Alright... I didnt know the PS3 was capable of projection.

The Xbox 360 wasn't designed to last this long, the graphical capabilities in it are not nearly as powerful as those inside the PS3, so while the 360 was always cheaper, the PS3 was always designed to have more potential, despite being more expensive.get-ka12

except thats false. the graphics capabilities of the 360 far utweigh the ps3. not only is the 360 gpu more powerful its more future proof, that said the ps3 as a visual edge due to the cell, idk why but to gamers more effects on screen is somehow more visually pleasinhg

the PS3 was always designed to have more potential, despite being more expensive.get-ka12

[QUOTE="get-ka12"] the PS3 was always designed to have more potential, despite being more expensive.Trmpt

[QUOTE="Trmpt"][QUOTE="get-ka12"] the PS3 was always designed to have more potential, despite being more expensive.JustPlainLucas

[QUOTE="Trmpt"][QUOTE="get-ka12"] the PS3 was always designed to have more potential, despite being more expensive.JustPlainLucas

[QUOTE="Zaibach"]

[QUOTE="ogvampire"]

i cant rebutt your opinion on what you think looks good or not...

ogvampire

i agree those games look great, but when it comes to what looks best, my opinion is all that matters to me... and so far this gen, i still think RE5 is the best looking game

arent opinions wonderful :)

[QUOTE="washd123"]

[QUOTE="KH-mixerX"]

I don't have to prove it. None of the points you stated are true. MGS4 as a graphical masterpiece is a widely known fact. It's like claiming the sun doesn't exist. Would I need to disprove you? No, because everyone with eyes knows that it exists. Ask anyone in this thread. Actually, forget that. Ask anyone on these forums if MGS4 is one of the most impressive games in the graphics department so far this generation. I can guarantee that an overwhelming number of them would say yes. But don't take my word for it, do the research yourself.

EDIT:

http://www.gamespot.com/ps3/adventure/metalgearsolid4/video/6192533/metal-gear-solid-4-guns-of-the-patriots-video-review-?tag=summary;watch-review

Here's the link to the GS video review of MGS4. About 5 min. into the video, Kevin VanOrd starts taling about exactly what we're arguing about. Just watch it and get back to me.

navyguy21

the vid just shows extally what im talkng about, poor textures sub hd res aa issues, poor shadows prebaked lighting, all FACTS.

the reviwer is an idiot if he thinks it was technically impressive especially withuncharted already being out

*sigh*

Since I'm obviously not going to change you mind, I'll just leave it at that. I honestly don't know what your seeing. But hey, everyone's a critic I guess.

[QUOTE="neomatrix909"]

360 has been out a year longer than PS3 but PS3 is way ahead of them in graphics when it comes to exlusives. Uncharted 2 (and 1 lol) and Killzone 2, MGS4 are way superior in the graphics department. Gears 2 shows very little improvements and Halo ODST is laughable. Doesn't this confirm that developers are holding back on multiplatform games when it comes to the PS3?

Floppy_Jim

are you serious on killzone 2? the graphics ugly. i dont know why cows praised it so much on the graphics.its equally the same as gears of war 2. which i think sucks also

uncharted 2 is definitely the best graphic game on the ps3, as for xbox 360 banjo kazooie or re5 is far the best on 360

but uncharted 2 is the best graphics on consoles. but not the best in all systems this gen.

with this ps3vs360 battle. only time will tell.

The 360 hasn`t been fully tapped yet. Alan Wake, Splinter Cell Conviction, , Lost Planet 2, all look to be better graphically than any current Xbox 360 games.

If it ever does, with games like GT5 and The Last Guardian, the PS3 will always be a step ahead.TintedEyes

Did anyone here have play Assassins Creed..?The game look almost very good like the U2,and don't forget that it is 2 YEARS old game,and in some parts it look the same and better from U2.Assassins Creed look better on the 360 than the PS3 version and i agree that 360 hasn`t been fully tapped yet.

"360 can't do graphics like U2" that is just a joke.:lol:

[QUOTE="Floppy_Jim"][QUOTE="neomatrix909"]

360 has been out a year longer than PS3 but PS3 is way ahead of them in graphics when it comes to exlusives. Uncharted 2 (and 1 lol) and Killzone 2, MGS4 are way superior in the graphics department. Gears 2 shows very little improvements and Halo ODST is laughable. Doesn't this confirm that developers are holding back on multiplatform games when it comes to the PS3?

Panosola

[QUOTE="Panosola"][QUOTE="Floppy_Jim"] There are already 360 games look as good or better than MGS4. But colour me surprised if we see something better looking than Uncharted 2.Zaibach

[QUOTE="Zaibach"]

[QUOTE="Panosola"] I agree. Uncharted 2 it only have some better landscape and backgrounds,some good effects and that is all. Resident Evil 5 it have a lot better graphics from Killzone 2 and and it almost the same with the U2 graphics. And all we know that the RE5 on 360 look better from the PS3 version.Gears of War 2 have better graphics from KZ2 and it is very close to U2 graphics.Gears Of War 2 is comparable too Uncharted 2 graphics in some parts. Don't tell me that the 360 can't do graphics like U2 because that is a joke.U2 it is only use better colors and that is all,like the Little big planet.Take a look on Banjo N&B...it look very good,almost like U2. Assassins Creed also look very good and very close to U2,and it is 2 years old game,the U2 it just only use better colors.Assassins Creed 2 it will be a lot better than U2 and better on 360.The U2 it have nothing original....it is just copy from Gears of War(Battle system),Prince of Persia and Tomb Raider(Gameplay)and Metal Gear(stealth action),it have nothing new and original to introduces.Only run...run...jump...run...fire...hide...run...jumb...and that is all,and the puzzles just for laughing. The original Xbox had better multiplats than the PS2 and again 360 have better multiplats games than the PS3.We all know that all the multiplats games look better on 360.(More clear graphics and smooth gameplay) I just finish the game,it is a very good game but i already have boring with that.U2 it is just very overrate.The 360 can make those graphics and better.Panosola

[QUOTE="Panosola"][QUOTE="Zaibach"]lol you havent played U2 and if you have...its time to upgrade to a hd tv friend when youre comparing it to AC . I'll keep it short because of the myriad of fail in your post. Before you criticise something play it first mmmmmmkay?

Zaibach

It`s because Gears of War is just amazing and because U2 just copy from other good games.Panosola

[QUOTE="Panosola"]It`s because Gears of War is just amazing and because U2 just copy from other good games.TintedEyes

when will 360 show graphics like Uncharted 2/Killzone2? I think when Alan Wake is released.

[QUOTE="lulznub"]

[QUOTE="navyguy21"] lol, might wanna do some research before posting stuff :Pnavyguy21

Really? Tell me one thing I posted that was false.

Isn't it true that the PS2 was the weakest of the three consoles last gen in terms of power? But no cow worth their salt would say the Xbox 1 was the better console. So what's the point of this thread?

Isn't it true that the PS2 was the weakest of the three consoles last gen in terms of power? But no cow worth their salt would say the Xbox 1 was the better console. So what's the point of this thread?

WithoutGraceXII

[QUOTE="Zaibach"]

[QUOTE="Panosola"] I have PS3 and 360 and i have buy the U2 for my PS3,i have finish the game on my HD Samsung 32,and i have already boring with that game.I finish the game and that is all.But i really want to play again Gears of War again.That game is just awesome,i have finish the games 2 times but i want to play again Gear 1 and 2.U2 is boring.Gears of War is amazing.themerlin

[QUOTE="WithoutGraceXII"]

Isn't it true that the PS2 was the weakest of the three consoles last gen in terms of power? But no cow worth their salt would say the Xbox 1 was the better console. So what's the point of this thread?

TintedEyes

[QUOTE="TintedEyes"][QUOTE="WithoutGraceXII"]

Isn't it true that the PS2 was the weakest of the three consoles last gen in terms of power? But no cow worth their salt would say the Xbox 1 was the better console. So what's the point of this thread?

themerlin

The 360 simply can't achieve what the PS3 can. It's as simple as that. The cell processor on the Ps3 is way more powerful, plus the PS3 has 8 core processors, the 360 only has 3. Only a few developers (Naughty Dog, Guerrila Games, Insomniac) really take advantage of it, but when they do, the experience is second to none. Not to bash the 360, ODST and Gears are beautiful games. But they can't compete with Uncharted 2 and Killzone 2. Uncharted 2 was made in 18 month. How long was ODST in development?

There isn't an argument here. The 360 can't even render and project true 1080p.

The Xbox 360 wasn't designed to last this long, the graphical capabilities in it are not nearly as powerful as those inside the PS3, so while the 360 was always cheaper, the PS3 was always designed to have more potential, despite being more expensive.get-ka12

lol, might wanna do some research before posting stuff :Pnavyguy21

Really? Tell me one thing I posted that was false.

Isn't it true that the PS2 was the weakest of the three consoles last gen in terms of power? But no cow worth their salt would say the Xbox 1 was the better console. So what's the point of this thread?