when will HALO 3 be dethorned?

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#101 musicalmac  Moderator
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Counter-Strike is still the FPS king after over a decade. So no.

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Not on 360. Why is this such a foreign concept to so many people?
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#102 shadow_hosi
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[QUOTE="Trinners"]

Counter-Strike is still the FPS king after over a decade. So no.

musicalmac
Not on 360. Why is this such a foreign concept to so many people?

clearly all systems are involved the tc listed non 360 titles in the op
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#103 Trinners
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[QUOTE="Trinners"]

Counter-Strike is still the FPS king after over a decade. So no.

musicalmac

Not on 360. Why is this such a foreign concept to so many people?

Who said anything about the 360 in the first place? -.-

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#104 Giancar
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[QUOTE="Trinners"]

Counter-Strike is still the FPS king after over a decade. So no.

musicalmac
Not on 360. Why is this such a foreign concept to so many people?

ok, this is TC's thread he should specify if he is talking about FPS shooters in general for every system (it seems to be, cause he mentions the pc fps not being as "hot" as console ones) or if he is strictly referring to the 360 If he is referring only for the 360 I will agree, if he states the sames for all systems then is a no no
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#105 GreyFoXX4
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[QUOTE="h575309"][QUOTE="GreyFoXX4"]

I hate to say it but between the waw and cod4 communities its already dethroned. But maybe it would help if 360 owners had more of a choice in 1st party games to chose from, beside halo3. I mean on the 360 what is one going to buy for a fps? cod series or halo3 right? So going on 4 years of the 360 on the market and possibly 2 1/2 years since Halo3 was reduced to what $39.00 or $29.00 game, it should be packed in there.

And once again come the 22nd yet another Halo game launching. I mean really 4 years of Halo and Gears lol, thats the exact reason why I didn't keep my 360, I just knew there wasn't going to be enough of what I like to keep me busy and interested in my purchase.

And what other FPS has been released in the past 2 years that is better (besides maybe TF2)? Killzone 2? (LOL)

To me the Halo games isn't no more than any other pc shooter thats has been around for years, so when it was first launched or Halo3 its just a shooter that has been around for years prior to it just on the pc. What made Halo what it is is that it opened up that type of play to console users. So I stand unimpressed. And yes to me KZ2 was and is better. And TF2 well for me was fun for a week. Now HL2 death match, Quake, and UT series kills Halo3 while KZ2 and battlefield 2 are awesome aswell for that type of gameplay.
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#106 musicalmac  Moderator
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clearly all systems are involved the tc listed non 360 titles in the opshadow_hosi

Who said anything about the 360 in the first place? -.-

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[QUOTE="Giancar"]ok, this is TC's thread he should specify if he is talking about FPS shooters in general for every system (it seems to be, cause he mentions the pc fps not being as "hot" as console ones) or if he is strictly referring to the 360 If he is referring only for the 360 I will agree, if he states the sames for all systems then is a no no

It doesn't matter what the TC did or didn't say. We're talking about dethroning a 360 exclusive. That means in order to be dethroned, something has to prevent you from putting the Halo 3 disc into your 360. Therefore, everything not playable on the 360 doesn't matter.

1,177,930 games in the past 24 hours don't lie. Show me a game that tops that on XBL, and I'll agree you have the reigning champion.

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#107 Giancar
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[QUOTE="musicalmac"][QUOTE="shadow_hosi"]

Who said anything about the 360 in the first place? -.-

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[QUOTE="Giancar"]ok, this is TC's thread he should specify if he is talking about FPS shooters in general for every system (it seems to be, cause he mentions the pc fps not being as "hot" as console ones) or if he is strictly referring to the 360 If he is referring only for the 360 I will agree, if he states the sames for all systems then is a no no

It doesn't matter what the TC did or didn't say. We're talking about dethroning a 360 exclusive. That means in order to be dethroned, something has to prevent you from putting the Halo 3 disc into your 360. Therefore, everything not playable on the 360 doesn't matter.

1,177,930 games in the past 24 hours don't lie. Show me a game that tops that on XBL, and I'll agree you have the reigning champion.

no no no, please you are not the TC, this posts are responding the OT not your posts he was implying HALO 3 being the best FPS in all areas AND in all systems from all the posts I have read...
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#108 DarthCorvinus
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2) 1 million don't play Diablo 2 on a daily basis. Not anymore, but its been out for 10 years. in 10 years H3 wont be close to D2's numbers today (H3 will be at 0 at that point btw)

shadow_hosi

Really, you can see the future? damn , i wish i could do that. In ten years, i'm gonna pop in and play H3, just to prove you wrong. :P

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#109 musicalmac  Moderator
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[QUOTE="Giancar"] no no no, please you are not the TC, this posts are responding the OT not your posts he was implying HALO 3 being the best FPS in all areas AND in all systems from all the posts I have read...

Then why the heck did you quote me?? :?

I figured we had evolved the conversation into something we could discuss. It's pretty difficult to objectively debate a RTS vs a FPS vs a whatever, especially on completely different platforms. Perhaps I assumed too much.

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#110 shadow_hosi
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[QUOTE="shadow_hosi"]


2) 1 million don't play Diablo 2 on a daily basis. Not anymore, but its been out for 10 years. in 10 years H3 wont be close to D2's numbers today (H3 will be at 0 at that point btw)

DarthCorvinus

Really, you can see the future? damn , i wish i could do that. In ten years, i'm gonna pop in and play H3, just to prove you wrong. :P

if course it will be zero, ther ewill be ODST, Reach, probably 4-5 other halo games by then. and the next xbox will be out and probably wont even run halo3

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#111 deactivated-6243ee9902175
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Since this is obviously opinionated it can be said it was already dethroned by Team Fortress 2.

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#112 musicalmac  Moderator
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Since this is obviously opinionated it can be said it was already dethroned by Team Fortress 2.

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1,177,930 games of Halo 3 played in the past 24 hours say, "Nay".
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Since this is obviously opinionated it can be said it was already dethroned by Team Fortress 2.

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that game lacks a coop campaign :x
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#114 shadow_hosi
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[QUOTE="Whiteblade999"]

Since this is obviously opinionated it can be said it was already dethroned by Team Fortress 2.

musicalmac
1,177,930 games of Halo 3 played in the past 24 hours say, "Nay".

TC is trollin like mad in other topics wana do something about that? :) just thought i'd let you know 3+ topics about how halo is great in about an hour is a bit trollin'
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[QUOTE="SchoolThing"][QUOTE="Giancar"] FPS hotter in consoles? now you lost it allGiancar
If you're ttrying to say that first-person shooters are more popular on PC, you're trolling and I won't be responding to you anymore. Wait, one last thing, I guess then you're one of them that thinks that Modern warfare 2 on PC will outsell 360 version? liololololololololllll

hottest = better quality so, FPS console are better quality than FPS for PC? :?

Are you talking about multiplats? If so, controls are the only difference there and just because you prefer mouse and keyboard doesn't mean everyone else does. But if you're talking about exclusives, well, consoles definitely have PC beat in that area. What does PC even have nowadays? Just Crysis? Decent single player, but the multiplayer is pratically dead while Halo 3 is still the most played online FPS in the world.

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#116 musicalmac  Moderator
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[QUOTE="shadow_hosi"] TC is trollin like mad in other topics wana do something about that? :) just thought i'd let you know 3+ topics about how halo is great in about an hour is a bit trollin'

You'd have more luck using the drop down menu than to go off-topic in a thread.
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#117 Trinners
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It doesn't matter what the TC did or didn't say. We're talking about dethroning a 360 exclusive. That means in order to be dethroned, something has to prevent you from putting the Halo 3 disc into your 360. Therefore, everything not playable on the 360 doesn't matter.

1,177,930 games in the past 24 hours don't lie. Show me a game that tops that on XBL, and I'll agree you have the reigning champion.

musicalmac

I'm pretty sure the TC means that Halo 3 is the king of fps across all systems which is obviously false.

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#118 deactivated-6243ee9902175
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[QUOTE="Whiteblade999"]

Since this is obviously opinionated it can be said it was already dethroned by Team Fortress 2.

musicalmac

1,177,930 games of Halo 3 played in the past 24 hours say, "Nay".

He never gave a reasoning behind it so statistics are useless considering he didn't say if it was popularity or the like. Dethroned can also mean most fun game or the one he plays the most (not with everyone else but himself).

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#119 shadow_hosi
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[QUOTE="musicalmac"][QUOTE="shadow_hosi"] TC is trollin like mad in other topics wana do something about that? :) just thought i'd let you know 3+ topics about how halo is great in about an hour is a bit trollin'

You'd have more luck using the drop down menu than to go off-topic in a thread.

so mods can delete my posts and the such at will but cant do anything about obvious trolls without a report?
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#120 musicalmac  Moderator
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I'm pretty sure the TC means that Halo 3 is the king of fps across all systems which is obviously false.

Trinners
That's impossible to objectively debate. The title of the thread asks when it will be dethroned, and only a 360 exclusive can dethrone it. Not the other games he lists.

He never gave a reasoning behind it so statistics are useless considering he didn't say if it was popularity or the like. Dethroned can also mean most fun game or the one he plays the most (not with everyone else but himself).

Whiteblade999
Once again, subjectivity can't be objectively debated- numbers can.
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#121 RadecSupreme
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Dethroned? When was it ever king?

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so mods can delete my posts and the such at will but cant do anything about obvious trolls without a report?shadow_hosi
Obviously. The mods are out to getcha! =0
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#123 musicalmac  Moderator
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[QUOTE="shadow_hosi"] so mods can delete my posts and the such at will but cant do anything about obvious trolls without a report?

If you give them a reason. Just don't give them a reason. If you want to report someone, use that menu. Stay on topic.
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#124 shadow_hosi
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Dethroned? When was it ever king?

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#125 ThatGuyFromB4
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In terms of XBL numbers, I fully expect Modern Warfare 2 to pass Halo 3, and then Halo: Reach to pass MW2.

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#126 Trinners
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That's impossible to objectively debate. The title of the thread asks when it will be dethroned, and only a 360 exclusive can dethrone it. Not the other games he lists. .musicalmac

The TC never mentioned about it being dethroned only by a 360 exclusive, where did you get that from?

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#127 musicalmac  Moderator
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In terms of XBL numbers, I fully expect Modern Warfare 2 to pass Halo 3, and then Halo: Reach to pass MW2.

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I wouldn't be surprised if MW2 surpasses it, but for how long is the question. The original managed it for a little while, at least.
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#128 musicalmac  Moderator
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The TC never mentioned about it being dethroned only by a 360 exclusive, where did you get that from?

Trinners
Ok, here's the question that needs answering. How do you dethrone or crown a game to be king with subjective opinions?
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#129 Microdevine
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if your talking about number of players, or popularity.then id say when modern warfare 2 comes out.when cod 4 was out. it and halo constantly were battling for the number 1 spot. but when waw was released. it split the user base. so i think when mw 2 comes out. it will dethrone halo. at the latest, when halo:reach comes out. since itll have new multiplayer.

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[QUOTE="ThatGuyFromB4"]

In terms of XBL numbers, I fully expect Modern Warfare 2 to pass Halo 3, and then Halo: Reach to pass MW2.

musicalmac

I wouldn't be surprised if MW2 surpasses it, but for how long is the question. The original managed it for a little while, at least.

We don't really know anything about Halo Reach yet.

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#131 SchoolThing
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[QUOTE="musicalmac"]

That's impossible to objectively debate. The title of the thread asks when it will be dethroned, and only a 360 exclusive can dethrone it. Not the other games he lists. .Trinners

The TC never mentioned about it being dethroned only by a 360 exclusive, where did you get that from?

Any FPS, on any platform, is a "Halo murderer" contender.
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#132 shadow_hosi
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[QUOTE="Trinners"]

The TC never mentioned about it being dethroned only by a 360 exclusive, where did you get that from?

musicalmac

Ok, here's the question that needs answering. How do you dethrone or crown a game to be king with subjective opinions?

so....halo never had the crown then because everything about it is subjective opinion, sure it has tons of players but they all play it based off of subjective opinions

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#133 Giancar
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[QUOTE="musicalmac"][QUOTE="Giancar"] no no no, please you are not the TC, this posts are responding the OT not your posts he was implying HALO 3 being the best FPS in all areas AND in all systems from all the posts I have read...

Then why the heck did you quote me?? :?

I figured we had evolved the conversation into something we could discuss. It's pretty difficult to objectively debate a RTS vs a FPS vs a whatever, especially on completely different platforms. Perhaps I assumed too much.

because you are the one implying other things than the TC stated again: If people are talking about only in the 360, then I have to agree If people are talking about all systems, no
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[QUOTE="LiquidShnake"]The only title it holds is worst graphics on 360.PAL360

Dude....i know its cool to hate Halo3´s graphics. But in fact, except the marine models, everything looks very impressive!

I've played about 60 360 games and I can honestley say it has the worst (apart from launch titles). Yes it's colorful but everything seems in such low resolution and there are loads of jaggies. I'm not even saying it's a bad game, the graphics just suck.

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#135 shad0w70
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How about DUST 514?It shows a lot of promise.

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#136 musicalmac  Moderator
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so....halo never had the crown then because everything about it is subjective opinion, sure it has tons of players but they all play it based off of subjective opinions

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Numbers are never subjective.
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[QUOTE="shadow_hosi"]

so....halo never had the crown then because everything about it is subjective opinion, sure it has tons of players but they all play it based off of subjective opinions

musicalmac
Numbers are never subjective.

interpretation of numbers is :o
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#138 musicalmac  Moderator
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[QUOTE="Jandurin"] interpretation of numbers is :o

Teh curveball! Ok, I argue that Halo 3 will be dethroned when another game comes along and consistently beats it in terms of games played, hours played, and players participating.
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#139 SchoolThing
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Dethroned? When was it ever king?

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[QUOTE="Trinners"]

The TC never mentioned about it being dethroned only by a 360 exclusive, where did you get that from?

musicalmac

Ok, here's the question that needs answering. How do you dethrone or crown a game to be king with subjective opinions?

You don't, if you want to crown a game to be king it's best to use facts. Counter-strike is still the most played game of any genre on the planet. This includes steam, private servers, and Internet cafes around the globe. Goto any decently sized internet cafe and the 3 games that is being dominantly played on them is (Counter-strike, Starcraft, then Warcraft (DOTA).

I am still wondering however, why you think only a 360 exclusive can "dehtrone" Halo 3. Because that assumption came from nowhere.

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#141 Giancar
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[QUOTE="shadow_hosi"]

so....halo never had the crown then because everything about it is subjective opinion, sure it has tons of players but they all play it based off of subjective opinions

musicalmac
Numbers are never subjective.

in numbers for live no, Halo 3 can't be dethroned in all other aspects, most likely
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I am still wondering however, why you think only a 360 exclusive can "dehtrone" Halo 3. Because that assumption came from nowhere.

Trinners
no no. it doesn't have to be exclusive, but it does have to be playable on the system
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[QUOTE="musicalmac"][QUOTE="ThatGuyFromB4"]

In terms of XBL numbers, I fully expect Modern Warfare 2 to pass Halo 3, and then Halo: Reach to pass MW2.

xionvalkyrie

I wouldn't be surprised if MW2 surpasses it, but for how long is the question. The original managed it for a little while, at least.

We don't really know anything about Halo Reach yet.

No, but it's Halo and it's Bungie. There's no chance in hell it won't be anything but amazing (but of course there will still be the Halo haters out there calling it overrated). If ODST had competitive multiplayer, MW2 would at least have some competion, but come on, H3 is a 2 year old game now. It's starting to show its age now especially when compared to MW2 (at least from the very impressive multiplayer videos IW has been putting out).

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#144 Meowmixxvi
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it will be dethrone from itself. no clue when, but thats my prediction ;)
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Modern Warfare, World At War and Modern Warfare 2 (in a few weeks) are more popular in the online department, if you're asking about.

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No, they arent.

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[QUOTE="Trinners"]

I am still wondering however, why you think only a 360 exclusive can "dehtrone" Halo 3. Because that assumption came from nowhere.

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no no. it doesn't have to be exclusive, but it does have to be playable on the system

See? Not rocket science. Although, Jandurin does qualify as one. It has to be playable on the 360.
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#147 SchoolThing
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[QUOTE="musicalmac"][QUOTE="Trinners"]

The TC never mentioned about it being dethroned only by a 360 exclusive, where did you get that from?

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Ok, here's the question that needs answering. How do you dethrone or crown a game to be king with subjective opinions?

You don't, if you want to crown a game to be king it's best to use facts. Counter-strike is still the most played game of any genre on the planet. This includes steam, private servers, and Internet cafes around the globe. Goto any decently sized internet cafe and the 3 games that is being dominantly played on them is (Counter-strike, Starcraft, then Warcraft (DOTA).

I am still wondering however, why you think only a 360 exclusive can "dehtrone" Halo 3. Because that assumption came from nowhere.

Starcraft is not so popular if you're not in Korea. I agree CS, WC and WoW are somewhat scarily popular.
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#148 Trinners
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[QUOTE="Jandurin"][QUOTE="Trinners"]

I am still wondering however, why you think only a 360 exclusive can "dehtrone" Halo 3. Because that assumption came from nowhere.

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no no. it doesn't have to be exclusive, but it does have to be playable on the system

See? Not rocket science. Although, Jandurin does qualify as one. It has to be playable on the 360.

Why does ithe game have to be playable on the 360? By that logic we can't call Mario as the platformer king because it can't be played on the 360 or ps3.

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#149 musicalmac  Moderator
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Why does ithe game have to be playable on the 360? By that logic we can't call Mario as the platformer king because it can't be played on the 360 or ps3.

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How would you define platforming king? Forget your opinions, we're talking about tangible facts. If you can't play it on the 360, it can't dethrone the ever popular Halo 3.
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[QUOTE="musicalmac"][QUOTE="Jandurin"] no no. it doesn't have to be exclusive, but it does have to be playable on the systemTrinners

See? Not rocket science. Although, Jandurin does qualify as one. It has to be playable on the 360.

Why does ithe game have to be playable on the 360? By that logic we can't call Mario as the platformer king because it can't be played on the 360 or ps3.

Mario is the platformer king.