Where can I get a $500 4k gaming PC?

That's the question I want to ask. A PC that can run games at 4k res would cost you around $500 just for the GPU, then $400 for the cpu, $200 for the ram, etc etc. Cheapest 4k PC is around $1500 if we're being honest. Meanwhile I can go to Best buy right now and pick up an Xbox one X that can run games at 4k, either 30fps or 60fps for under $500!!

What's the deal with PC gaming? You need a Vega 64 or a GeForce 1080ti just to play 4k games. Neither of these cards are cheap

Sure I can build an awesome 1080p gaming PC for the same price as an Xbox one X, but it can't do 4k like the Xbox can

How much does a console that runs lets say Destiny 2 at 60fps cost?

Good question. 60 fps at 4K. I don't wanna play all those Xbox shooters with a controller anyway.

Get the Xbox One X. Did you hear that microsoft is now supporting mouse and keyboard?

@Yams1980: so the question is..how is an Xbox one X with vastly inferior hardware pull off smooth running 4k games??

@so_carrieous: thinking about it for sure. In the past you had these smug PC gamers who kept barking about being the master race but I'd say that 95% of PC gamers can't afford the high cost of gaming at 4k settings. Consoles at 4k >> PC at 1080p.

You could probably build my HTPC for $500.

GTX 1060 6GB and i5 mid-tier CPU (i5-6400) with 8GB RAM.

It runs Forza Horizon 4 at just about the same level as my X1X. The game defaults to 4K/30 with variable settings just like X1X. I can change it to 1080p/60 just like X1X. The variable settings actually work very well and it's nice to see this option on PC.

no-one knows. it's one of the great mysteries of the modern age

Consoles barely hit 4k. What's the percentage of total games that hit 4k on the X?

@blaznwiipspman1:

At this point it don’t make a lick of sense to build a pc with the ps5 right around the corner.

So 4K TVs are free these days or what you going to run your Xbox on?

60 fps > 30 fps IMO

....and 4K monitor doesn't make near as much of a difference as a 4K TV since you are sitting 1-2 feet from it, not 5-10 feet. 1440p is the sweet spot for monitors.

Really depends on the type of games you want to play, what controls you like to use, and whether or not you want a higher frame rate. You can def build a budget-conscious PC in 2019, especially at the low end.

Yawn, 2/10 .. unless you believe this drivel, ask yourself how stupid you have to be to actually ask this question honestly.

Didn't know monitors were free either.

Consoles have always had superior optimisation, how do you think a super weak hardware like the base PS4 can run visually spectacular games such as HZD/GOW.

added more elements of truth for you.

Because HZD and God of War focus on small scenes with very little going on at any given time, literally rendering a main character, 5-6 enemies at most and the scene within the FoV ... hardly an amazing achievement in 2018... that and they pay millions for massive art studios and inhouse sony techinicians programming to the metal.

Not saying you are wrong, but wake me up when Sony/MS/Nintendo try anything outside of thier safe little genres designed to be small and pretty.

Have one of em make a Star Citizen scale game with those graphics and I will bow down completely, but it won't happen.

As usual the answer is a matter of preference. To answer one post, no console runs 4k games as smooth as a PC. But that PC isn't $400 at Best Buy either. So its up to the individuals preference. Do you want top end stuff? You're gonna pay up. And the definition of "too expensive" is up to each individual's bank account.

Ebay

You can't get a 4K PC for $500 just like you can't get a 4K console for $500. If you want quality, you have to pay for it.

Why do people buy more capable, more expensive cars when they can just get a lower quality used one for less?

Why do people pay an extra three bucks for those comfortable seats at the movie theatre when they can just endure the standard, cramped ones at the regular price?

Why do people buy grass fed beef, heirloom vegetables and grains, and wholesome ingredients when they can just buy the standard crap?

What a bunch of idiots! Realizing that quality is often worth more! pssssssssssh. Dumbasses.

the xbox one x is $500 last I checked.

Heres a list of xbox one X games that support 4k gaming. Thats over 100 games, plus > 25 older games that get 4k through updates.

https://www.windowscentral.com/all-xbox-one-x-enhanced-games

150 games boom!

https://www.windowscentral.com/all-xbox-one-x-enhanced-games

lol!

That's... Not what I asked? I'm also too lazy to find out if those are actual native 4k games.

@blaznwiipspman1: I would say the majority of that list is sub 4K. There are a ton of games in that list that use checkerboard rendering and/or dynamic resolution.

You could build one to run at 4k resolution but ultra low settings, never specified the settings

How many X1X games are native 4K without dynamic resolution or upscaling? How many of them are 4K/60fps? X1X is shit just like the other consoles. It is isn't even a proper 1080p/60fps console. Pathetic.

You can't, really. Not in the way that PC gamers tend to like to play (60+ FPS).

Note that the XBox doesn't hold up to that standard either. The issue is, "the X1X runs games at 4K!" But what isn't being addressed is 1) framerate, and 2) what the heck "High" or "Ultra" actually mean for the games that achieve that resolution target. Forza Horizon 4 is a perfect example, developed for Microsoft's platform - you can run that game at 4K 30FPS on high/Ultra mix settings on a freaking GTX970 (which is worse than a 1060 or RX580, for those who don't know). So it's a really well optimized game from the get-go, and it also raises the question of where a dev decides to draw the line and say "yup, that's our Ultra PC setting". Do they set standards comparable to the target console? Probably sometimes - I'd bet it means a lot to MS to have this game "max out" on the XBox... that being said, it looks mindblowing so, from a functional standpoint high/ultra in FH4 really is "high fidelity" and "ultra good to look at"

All the minutiae aside, for me, the X1X is a fantastic price/performance ratio. I'm really surprised how well it has been delivering on its promised performance. It seems to be pulling in numbers ranging from GTX1060-1070 performance, and for 500 or less... forget about it. That's simply a good price for that kind of hardware. No two ways about it.

great, insightful post! Lot of pc fanboys here crapping on the xbox, just because its cheap, but I guess the fact is you can definitely play great looking 4k, or near 4k level gaming with such a product without spending $2k on just a video card. Guess that just annoys some people.

Maybe its not real full 4k gaming like you would find on a $3k gaming PC, but its fairly close and definitely enough so that you can't really tell the difference too much.

The X1X has no value to me. The MS games are on PC. Also, the console can not run games properly and is incapable of delivering the experience I want. So, instead of wasting $500 on an X1X, it makes more sense to put that money towards a gaming PC.

yeah, the topic was about a $500 4k PC, because thats what an X1X costs, and thats the budget I want to work with. Okay, can a $1k PC run games at 4k res? I'm just confused about this whole thing. Why is it that you need to spend $1500 on a PC to play 4k games, when a $500 console can do a similar thing? Maybe not 100% the same, but good enough.

Is it because like you said, microsoft gets better deals because of scale, and also because software is more optimized on consoles?

so much hate towards a console, even though the X1X is outputting games with 4k res. Maybe some scenes the resolution drops to keep frames up, but when theres that much action on screen people don't notice anyway. So we can confirm that the X1X is between 1080 and 4k. Not bad, not bad at all.

Yes, and also because of the fact that they also perform wildly different tasks as well. A PC can do a lot more than consoles.

I'm also not accounting for the native vs. non-native thing.

The better question is why would anyone play Destiny poo on any system lol.

Geez bassman change it up once in a while because when it comes to you its just

Same way David Copperfield makes objects "disappear". Use of optics manipulation to convince the audience that he made said object physically dematerialize the space it had occupied.

PC on the other hand is having Star Trek transporter technology (given the appropriate budget of course) to literally teleport people and objects.

Follow up question; how is it you can call 30 fps (and less) "smooth running" with a straight face?? ?

F*cking dead lol. Not much of a difference, eh?

So within the first page, TC has already gone from 4k gaming to sometimes 4k and not quite 4k gaming

This is going well

A very predictable outcome, lol.

@i_p_daily: Don't worry, I will be posting a lot less in the future. So, you won't have to fight the truth as much. ;)

I have a x1x on a nice 4K TV and I have a decent pc that runs well On a 1440p monitor. What I wanna know is why Forza Horizon 4 looks SO much better at 2k on my monitor than it does on my 4K TV.

On the tv it’s 4K /30 FPS but has HDR

On the monitor it’s 2k/100 FPS with no HDR. But the picture quality is just so much better.

The monitor was $300 versus a $1500 UHDTV.

$500 xb1x versus $1000 pc build.

Nope. Just lower settings to that of console level and you can easily use a 1080 for 4k gaming. Please, stop touting the Xbox One X as even playable compared to a 2080 Ti. Xbox One X doesn't even pull 4k(it's sub 4k with dynamic scaling) 30 fps in Battlefield 5, whereas a 2080 Ti can do 4k 60 fps.

Something told me this thread would be another Xbox One X commercial. LOL!

@blaznwiipspman1:

"Where can I get a $500 4k gaming PC?"

Where can you get a $500 4k console? You think the x1x does 4k? nah its GPU is just equivalent to an RX 580, that's the kind of performance were talking about, dynamic resolution, checkerboard rendering, lower settings in general and 30 fps, when people that use PC's say that the GTX 1060 can't do 4k they don't mean that it can't do "console 4k" they mean that it can't do real and enjoyable 4k.

PC gaming cannot compete with the cost effectiveness of console gaming initial cost.

So i'm finally wearing you down hey. You're starting to see the light and now are gonna post less, another win for me :)

No, I will just be making better use of my time. As fun as SW can be, it is just a distraction that keeps me from doing other things that are more important.

Where can I get a $500 console that play games in 4K?