Which consumer base got shafted the most this gen?

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#1 ZumaJones07
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As a whole, which consumer base do you think got screwed over the most by either Nintendo, Microsoft, or Sony? I think PS3 owners drew the short stick. A ridiculous launch price, backwards compatibility issues, lame games, bad security, being copycats only to lose after they copied, and a bunch of other things. Also because it followed the PS2 which did so well. Sony could have done better.
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#2 SaltyMeatballs
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Wii owners overall. 360 owners in recent years.
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#3 deactivated-5d6bb9cb2ee20
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Wii owners for every year except for 2010 (2010 was awesome for the Wii).
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#4 Joedgabe
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I bought a Ps3 and I've made good use of it so i'm satisfied. I've also bought a DS made an extremely good use of it so i'm more than happy on the Handheld bandwagon. However.... I'm very very very disappointed at my purchase of a Wii which if it wasn't for Super Smash brother's brawl it would not have been justified :[

Fire Emblem and arc rise fantasia are fantastic but still not good enough to drag a console by themselves.

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#5 YearoftheSnake5
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Wii owners. Easily. Sure, the game library has its gems, but the online generally isn't that good, rarely do we see DLC, and ports are usually gimped in some way. I like my Wii and I have plenty of games for it, but the system got the short end of the stick most of this gen.

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#6 senses_fail_06
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360 owners. C1assic case of bait and switch. At least Wii owners knew what they were getting into when they bought the Wii.
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#7 mems_1224
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ps3 owners. wii has better exclusives and 360 has better online
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#8 haziqonfire
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PS3 and Sony.

I still have absolutely no idea what their strategy is/was with that platform. It's had a lot of issues since it's launch and it continues. The initial price, removal of features, PSN leak/shutdown, getting the worst version of most multiplats (even 5 years later), etc.

Wii's problem was missing out on multiplats, but for what it missed out it gained in exclusives.

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#9 iHarlequin
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I'd have to go with the PS3, because PS3 owners got hit with so many things they didn't expect it isn't funny. Such as,

- US$600,00 launch price.

- Lack of BC/faulty BC.

- Shifty internet service. Being free is a huge advantage over XBL, but having a unique gaming service shut down for over a month is completely unnaceptable.

- Poor performance on a few multi-plats (honorable mentions go to Bethesda games, most notoriously Skyrim, and Bayonetta) and overall reduced quality when compared to the 360's version of the multi-plat.

Whereas 360 and Wii owners got what they expected. People didn't buy into the 360 thinking they'd get free online gaming, nor did Wii owners expect HD graphics comparable to the other two consoles. They knew it, and they bought their consoles regardless: any dissapointments were foreseen, and not major surprises.

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#10 Giancar
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In the long run? Wii got just r****ed Every console got its moments: PS3 at the beginning, 360 with Kinect, but the Wii has suffered all the **** gen
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#11 Tikeio
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The ones with RROD.

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#12 nintendoboy16
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Though I still want to get one, it does seem like the PS3 had the most of bad luck to it.

Wii would follow.

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#13 Deathtransit
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The ones with RROD.

Tikeio
And Live fees.
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#14 Tikeio
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[QUOTE="Tikeio"]

The ones with RROD.

Deathtransit

And Live fees.

And no exclusives.

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#15 Haiyama
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[QUOTE="Deathtransit"][QUOTE="Tikeio"]

The ones with RROD.

Tikeio

And Live fees.

And no exclusives.

And multi-disc games.

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#16 Heil68
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People who bought a 360 before 2010.
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#17 _Cadbury_
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I'm not sure how anyone could say PS3 owners. Sony have maintained strong,unwavering support in terms of exclusives, and I'd hardly call the price tag as 'being shafted'. On the other hand you have the 360, which Microsoft seems to have neglected in terms of exclusives in favour of Kinect (+ RROD as others have said), and Nintendo were the quickest to organise the Wii's replacement console. I'm not sure if I could say who got the most shafted, probably 360 owners imo. But as I see it, PS3 owners are in the best position.
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#18 D4W1L4H
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PC.

Wow. Who would have thought writing two letters while keeping a straight face could be so hard.

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PS3 and Sony.

I still have absolutely no idea what their strategy is/was with that platform. It's had a lot of issues since it's launch and it continues. The initial price, removal of features, PSN leak/shutdown, getting the worst version of most multiplats (even 5 years later), etc.

Wii's problem was missing out on multiplats, but for what it missed out it gained in exclusives.

Haziqonfire

This.

I don't see how the Wii lost in the long run. Tons and tons of great games on that platforn, and Skyward Sword and Xenoblade are just icing on the cake.

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#20 ActionRemix
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Wii have no games.
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#21 LegatoSkyheart
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Whoever says PS3 needs a Reality check.

The PS3 GOT Multiplats. Whether they were good or not, They STILL got them.

The Nintendo Wii didn't even get mentioned and when the Wii finally gets a game from a 3rd Party it gets turned into some Onrail crap that doesn't even have it's place in the Series.

The Wii is the one system that got shafted the most this gen.

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The Nintendo Wii didn't even get mentioned and when the Wii finally gets a game from a 3rd Party it gets turned into some Onrail crap that doesn't even have it's place in the Series.

LegatoSkyheart

Whaa...?

The only third party on-rail games in those categories the Wii ever had was Resident Evil Chronicles and Dead Space Extraction. Heck I remember YOU acknowledging other third party games that aren't on rails like Goldeneye (FPS), Tatsunoko vs Capcom (Fighting), and Sonic Colors (Platformer).

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#23 D4W1L4H
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I bought a Wii thinking I would be able to swing Links sword around in real life, shoot while pointing at the screen in Metroid, experience a brand new 3D Mario platformer, and play many other amazing first party Nintendo titles. I got exactly that.

I bought a 360 thinking I could play quality HALO titles and various shooters, experience quality online gaming on a console, and I got exactly that.

I bought PS3, thinking I could play great Ratchet and Clank, Jak and Daxter, Ico, Shadow of the colossus, and other great Sequels to PS2 games. What I got was awful spinoffs and HD remakes. Oh, and Interactive movies.

:o What's that!?

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#24 LegatoSkyheart
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[QUOTE="LegatoSkyheart"]

The Nintendo Wii didn't even get mentioned and when the Wii finally gets a game from a 3rd Party it gets turned into some Onrail crap that doesn't even have it's place in the Series.

nintendoboy16

Whaa...?

The only third party on-rail games in those categories the Wii ever had was Resident Evil Chronicles and Dead Space Extraction. Heck I remember YOU acknowledging other third party games that aren't on rails like Goldeneye (FPS), Tatsunoko vs Capcom (Fighting), and Sonic Colors (Platformer).

Let me explain, I was talking about Resident Evil and Dead Space Extraction.

those two series of games (Dead Space and Resident Evil) had NO BUSINESS going the On Rail Route AT ALL.

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#25 nintendoboy16
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[QUOTE="nintendoboy16"]

[QUOTE="LegatoSkyheart"]

The Nintendo Wii didn't even get mentioned and when the Wii finally gets a game from a 3rd Party it gets turned into some Onrail crap that doesn't even have it's place in the Series.

LegatoSkyheart

Whaa...?

The only third party on-rail games in those categories the Wii ever had was Resident Evil Chronicles and Dead Space Extraction. Heck I remember YOU acknowledging other third party games that aren't on rails like Goldeneye (FPS), Tatsunoko vs Capcom (Fighting), and Sonic Colors (Platformer).

Let me explain, I was talking about Resident Evil and Dead Space Extraction.

those two series of games (Dead Space and Resident Evil) had NO BUSINESS going the On Rail Route AT ALL.

And YOU said that was all the Wii had in terms of third party according to your first post of this thread.

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#26 KungfuKitten
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360 No doubt about it. RROD, Live fee with ads, Live fee increase, paying twice for certain services in USA, money going to acquiring monthlong exclusivity, after Kinect support dropped dead, one SKU without HDD, HDDVD that failed, overpriced accessories.

Sony had removal of features and a failed sixaxis.
Nintendo fans got shafted by 3rd party.

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#27 commonfate
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I dunno... there's plenty to complain about on all 3

Microsoft: RROD, Live fees, decline in quantity of exclusives over the years (per year, obviously not collectively), shift to Kinect focus

Sony: $599, BC cut out, PSN hack and Sony's treatment of it, inferior online service (has greatly improved though), lack of quantity of exclusives at beginning of gen, lots of bs promises were never kept,

Nintendo: Wii started out casual and ended casual, crappy online system, gimmicky controller, Wii can't even play DVD, killing GBA BC support in later iterations of the DS,

I would say Nintendo based off the three consoles but Nintendo did right by the DS. So that leaves me to choose Sony... barely.

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#28 DireOwl
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Wii owners overall. PS3 owners at the beginning of the gen. 360 owners the last 2 years or so.

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#29 arto1223
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360 owners.

Very few good exclusives, RRoD, having to pay for online gaming, lack of hardware features at launch, still no Bluray, and Kinect. There are more reasons, but they're minor.

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#30 FeedOnATreeFrog
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ps3 gamers were shafted in the earlier years; less games, less features, high price (if that bothers you)

360 gamers were also shafted in earlier years because of RROD, and later years because of the lack of games (though most people seem to be fine with just COD and Gears)

Nintendo gamers were screwed from the get go; some good exclusive games, but none of the multiplats.

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#31 Kiro0
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Most definitely Wii owners. I originally went for the Wii this gen and God did I regret it. The Nintendo titles for the platform have been great but they certainly weren't enough to carry the console by themselves.

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#32 xhawk27
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Whoever says PS3 needs a Reality check.

The PS3 GOT Multiplats. Whether they were good or not, They STILL got them.

The Nintendo Wii didn't even get mentioned and when the Wii finally gets a game from a 3rd Party it gets turned into some Onrail crap that doesn't even have it's place in the Series.

The Wii is the one system that got shafted the most this gen.

LegatoSkyheart

Sony made the PS3 a Blu-Ray player first and game console second.

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#33 deactivated-5c8e4e07d5510
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Definitely Wii owners. The worst PS3 owners got was slightly worse graphics, 360 owners just lost their console for 2-3 weeks while it was being repaired (really varies depending on how many 360s went bad on you, I've only had 1 go bad), and PC gamers just got some bad console ports with sh*tty DRM. None of that is as bad as the lack of support the Wii got. I feel kinda bad for people who only own a Wii. They got some solid exclusives, but man third party support was awful.
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#34 xhawk27
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Wii owners overall. PS3 owners at the beginning of the gen. 360 owners the last 2 years or so.

DireOwl

Really. The last two years XBL has gotten much better and now Kinect you have the full spectrum of gaming.

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#35 BlbecekBobecek
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[QUOTE="Tikeio"]

[QUOTE="Deathtransit"] And Live fees.Haiyama

And no exclusives.

And multi-disc games.

And Sesame Street.

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#37 Pug-Nasty
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Wii owners overall. 360 owners in recent years.SaltyMeatballs

Pretty much this.

You don't get shafted by a high price, as there's nothing forcing you to pay that price, especially when there are cheaper alternatives.

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#38 waltefmoney
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Wii, then PS3.

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#39 SuperFlakeman
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I don't get how "Wii owners" feel shafted, you got what you bought based a comparison between what Nintendo presented and what they gave us.

Nintendo fans feeling shafted by Wii, that's a different story.

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#40 KungfuKitten
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I don't get how "Wii owners" feel shafted, you got what you bought based a comparison between what Nintendo presented and what they gave us.

Nintendo fans feeling shafted by Wii, that's a different story.

SuperFlakeman

Yeah I don't think there was a difference between what people expected of the Wii and what they got. The only thing could be you expected more 3rd party exclusives.

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#41 meetroid8
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Wii Owners in 2008, 360 owners in 2011, PS3 owners in 2007.
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#42 bbkkristian
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This gen? Its hard to choose: 1. Nintendo's casual appeal. 2. The Sony hack 3. Microsoft's attention on Kinect
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#43 nintendoboy16
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[QUOTE="bbkkristian"]This gen? Its hard to choose: 1. Nintendo's casual appeal. 2. The Sony hack 3. Microsoft's attention on Kinect

But Nintendo always had a "casual" or "kid friendly" appeal.
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#44 bbkkristian
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[QUOTE="nintendoboy16"][QUOTE="bbkkristian"]This gen? Its hard to choose: 1. Nintendo's casual appeal. 2. The Sony hack 3. Microsoft's attention on Kinect

But Nintendo always had a "casual" or "kid friendly" appeal.

You have a point... I withdrawal #1. :P
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#45 JETS-JETS-JETS
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Over all then the PS3 for the $600 price tag. PS3 is the best thing out now currently towards the end. But the question is, is that really good enough. The PS3 has been lacking for most of this gen really. While the 360 came out gunning their way to the top early n often to begin the gen. The Wii killed the sales market but their games hold little to anyone over the age of 12.

I think overall the Wii delivered the best to what its market n fan base is mostly made up of. The 360 did the best until Kinect got announced. N the PS3 did the worst until middle to near end.

The answer is the PS3. I am really a sony fan and always been one. I owned every sony system ps1 ps2 psp. The ps3 failed hard in my eyes n never was an option for me. The ps4 well thats a wait n see but if your asking me honestly then PS4 is what I am looking at as I have never been a fan to paying for online gaming. But the best this gen is the 360.

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#46 razgriz_101
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All 3 bases have been shafted

Nintendo: Focusing on the casual market and abandoning portions of their old userbase,not being as brawny as the HD twins,controller not liked by some gamers and the online being gimped.

Sony:High launch prices,YLOD,PSN fiasco and general Sony attitude early in the gen towards it being bluray first.

MS: DLC became more the norm,RROD,Live fees and over the past year doing a nintendo and going after the casual pie and abandoning the core gamers to a heavy extent.

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#47 KC_Hokie
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For me it was PS3. The PS3 was supposed to be the 'mmo console' and one of the main reasons I bought a PS3. A year and a half ago SOE said the Agency, Planetside 2 and Everquest Next were all being planned and/or considered for the PS3.

Looks like none are coming out now. The only MMO that ever came out from SOE was DCUO and it looks like it will be the last SOE MMO for the PS3.

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#48 nintendoboy16
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All 3 bases have been shafted

Nintendo: Focusing on the casual market and abandoning portions of their old userbase,not being as brawny as the HD twins,controller not liked by some gamers and the online being gimped.

razgriz_101

The casual focus isn't anything new to them. They've been doing it since NES.

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#49 haziqonfire
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The PS3 GOT Multiplats. Whether they were good or not, They STILL got them.

LegatoSkyheart

So disregard the quality of the ports, as long as they got them?

How come this was never said when the Wii got terrible ports of HD games then? lol.

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#50 Tikeio
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[QUOTE="Haiyama"]

[QUOTE="Tikeio"]

And no exclusives.

BlbecekBobecek

And multi-disc games.

And Sesame Street.

And HD DVD.