Who needs NASCAR when Forza 3 has got V8?! *56k go byebye*

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#101 deactivated-63f6895020e66
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Turn 10 are lying fanboys, then?BioShockOwnz

Yup. Good that I'm here to help instead of posting bullshots and spreading the fanboyish misinformation.

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#102 deactivated-5e836a855beb2
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Because those shots do not represent the game. They are touched up and are faux. Why make a game look good by lying?(not syaing you just in general for all bullshot threads)Animal-Mother
who cares? It's just pictures RAWR Damn people complaining about the silliest things. It's just as bad as pixel and texture comparisons between Resistance 1 and Gears of War.
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Woah the previous page had broken HTML.
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[QUOTE="IronBass"][QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]And I'll never understand why people post in a thread about not understanding the posting of new shots, whether they're touched up or not. New media is new media.BioShockOwnz

I posted to call out the bullshots, in case somebody believe they were actual ingame pics. I'm always wanting to help to defeat fanboyish misinformation.

Turn 10 are lying fanboys, then?

Yeah aren't they the same guys who tried to skew an internet poll in their favor by bribing their fans :roll:

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[QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]Turn 10 are lying fanboys, then?IronBass

Yup. Good that I'm here to help instead of posting bullshots and spreading the fanboyish misinformation.

Explain how bullshots are fanboyish? In the end, the real game is seen, and even then, how great a memory do you think people have of some random pictures they saw on the internets? D=
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#106 Animal-Mother
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[QUOTE="Animal-Mother"]Because those shots do not represent the game. They are touched up and are faux. Why make a game look good by lying?(not syaing you just in general for all bullshot threads)Jandurin
who cares? It's just pictures RAWR Damn people complaining about the silliest things. It's just as bad as pixel and texture comparisons between Resistance 1 and Gears of War.

I was just making a statement jand. That is all. Public announcement over.
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#107 SambaLele
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[QUOTE="sexxxyboy"] excellent demonstration with the balls zero. it really clarifys it for those that dont understand that forza looks cartoony.

zero_snake99

Thanks. I mean, that's the reason why it looks "cartoony" to me at least. I'm trying to work on a better image.. I can't remember how to do HDRI on this program =[. I've got some nice outdoor lightmap shots I could use for PERFECT comparisons, but I just don't remember how to use it. =[.

true. great demonstration.

i always thought that forza 3's gfx are not as realistic as they're touted to be.

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#108 spinecaton
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[QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]

[QUOTE="IronBass"] I'll repeat myself, I'll never understand why people post touched screens (new or old) when we all know the game does not look like that.Animal-Mother

And I'll never understand why people post in a thread about not understanding the posting of new shots, whether they're touched up or not. New media is new media.

Because those shots do not represent the game. They are touched up and are faux. Why make a game look good by lying?(not syaing you just in general for all bullshot threads)

All developers do it though, apparently it is only a problem when certain people do it however.

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masiisam fix your html

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It looks fine to me..Whats wrong with it?

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#110 DJ_Lae
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so V8 = Australian Nascar?Jandurin
Kind of an Australian touring car thing, I guess. I just hope they have street versions of the cars, as Australian muscle cars are underrated.
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#111 Animal-Mother
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[QUOTE="Animal-Mother"][QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]

And I'll never understand why people post in a thread about not understanding the posting of new shots, whether they're touched up or not. New media is new media.

spinecaton

Because those shots do not represent the game. They are touched up and are faux. Why make a game look good by lying?(not syaing you just in general for all bullshot threads)

All developers do it though, apparently it is only a problem when certain people do it however.

Well take a minute and think about those certain people.
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[QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]

[QUOTE="IronBass"] I posted to call out the bullshots, in case somebody believe they were actual ingame pics. I'm always wanting to help to defeat fanboyish misinformation.RedruM_I

Turn 10 are lying fanboys, then?

Yeah aren't they the same guys who tried to skew an internet poll in their favor by bribing their fans :roll:

Yeah they bribed the fans with a free unicorn, oh noes!!!!

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[QUOTE="RedruM_I"]

masiisam fix your html

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It looks fine to me..Whats wrong with it?

The posts look all malformed to me. Oh well must be a Firefox issue.
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[QUOTE="RedruM_I"]

[QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]

Turn 10 are lying fanboys, then?

spinecaton

Yeah aren't they the same guys who tried to skew an internet poll in their favor by bribing their fans :roll:

Yeah they bribed the fans with a free unicorn, oh noes!!!!

holy crap a unicorn? I thought those were beasts of myth and legend D= I reckon I'd do a lot for one.
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[QUOTE="RedruM_I"]

masiisam fix your html

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It looks fine to me..Whats wrong with it?

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google chrome is working fine
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[QUOTE="marklarmer"]

[QUOTE="RedruM_I"] Uncharted is not a simulation game. If Heavy Rain looked like Ratchet and Clank, no matter how good graphics is people would mock it because it is claiming to be something is not. Uncharted was designed to look cartoony, Forza shouldn't look cartoony if they want to call it a realistic racing game. Are these concepts so hard to understand?zero_snake99

yet GTs less realistic physics and half-baked damage somehow makes it uber-realistic right :roll: again, you're just calling it cartoony to annoy people, when the colours are clearly just more vibrant than GT.

I quickly made this example into why Forza 3 has a "cartoony" look to it.

It all has to do with specularity, and the metalic look the cars should have.

Like I said, this is a very quick example (took me about 5 minutes total to make, including render time lol). Forza is somewhere either on the left, or in the middle in terms of reflection levels, metallic properties and specularity, while GT5 is more on the right (though GT5 has a much better lighting system that shows proper light refraction).

If you REALLY want, I can put more time, into it, make sure the properties are actually more accurate to each game.

and what about all the non-metallic bodywork of cars in the game :|

i guess you're ignoring all of the screens with chrome alloys, which clearly comply to your 'metallic properties and specularity' rules.

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#118 G-O-M-J
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#119 foxhound_fox
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And they delivered all of this in just over two years. Absolutely amazing. I personally want a Ford Falcon XR8.

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#120 LEGEND_C4A
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Forza 3 keeps getting more beautiful and amazing by the day.

My apologies if old, because I'm sure it is, as people love their Forza here, but damn... can't wait for the end of Oct... Rocktober! :D

BioShockOwnz

Nice, but I still want my Nascar! why forza! why! :cry:

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#121 Wii_Gamer_277
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Forza has a tomato based vegetable drink?Jandurin
No jandurin the cars run on Tomatoe juice.
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[QUOTE="Jandurin"]Forza has a tomato based vegetable drink?Wii_Gamer_277
No jandurin the cars run on Tomatoe juice.

delicious and nutritious!
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#123 Yandere
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ZOMG JAGGYS CONFERMED FORZA 3 FLOP COMIN 2 A XBOX NEAR U!

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[QUOTE="masiisam"]

[QUOTE="RedruM_I"]

masiisam fix your html

Yandere

It looks fine to me..Whats wrong with it?

That's a trip…. no problems on my end…..It must be Firefox as another posters expressed…

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[QUOTE="Jandurin"]Forza has a tomato based vegetable drink?Wii_Gamer_277
No jandurin the cars run on Tomatoe juice.

Some racing simulator that is :| :P
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#126 Wii_Gamer_277
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[QUOTE="Wii_Gamer_277"][QUOTE="Jandurin"]Forza has a tomato based vegetable drink?aaronmullan
No jandurin the cars run on Tomatoe juice.

Some racing simulator that is :| :P

Hey its just turn 10 trying to be eco friendly :)
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#127 Tobin09
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Nothing matches NASCAR....

But wait, that's right FORZA 3 has Stock cars from NASCAR too =)

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#128 EazyD91
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Or you could care less about Nascar or V8 and you know, buy the actual "nascar" game
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#129 zero_snake99
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[QUOTE="zero_snake99"]

I quickly made this example into why Forza 3 has a "cartoony" look to it.

It all has to do with specularity, and the metalic look the cars should have.

Like I said, this is a very quick example (took me about 5 minutes total to make, including render time lol). Forza is somewhere either on the left, or in the middle in terms of reflection levels, metallic properties and specularity, while GT5 is more on the right (though GT5 has a much better lighting system that shows proper light refraction).

If you REALLY want, I can put more time, into it, make sure the properties are actually more accurate to each game.

marklarmer

and what about all the non-metallic bodywork of cars in the game :|

i guess you're ignoring all of the screens with chrome alloys, which clearly comply to your 'metallic properties and specularity' rules.

That was strictly an example. The majority of Forza 3 screenshots have really bad material properties on the vehicles. The chrome seems to be just fine in the game (looks good on the wheels, etc) but the actual bodies of the car seem to be very off. I'm trying to actually create a much better image, just give me a few.

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#130 Couth_
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Doesn't GT have these too? They have always had that Ford Falcon anyway.. V8 supercars are pretty fun to drive
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#131 DonPerian
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[QUOTE="IronBass"]Touched screens are touched.aaronmullan
Finally, someone gets it.

Do you guys have any proof that these screens are touched? And I'm not talking about normal procedure that applies to all these racing games' replay mode, because that's a given, and we'll be able to reproduce images like this ourselves when the title is released. So other than that, any link, interview, or evidence whatsoever that these screens have been touched up beyond what the game will already do itself - or is this pure speculation on your guys' part?
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[QUOTE="aaronmullan"][QUOTE="IronBass"]Touched screens are touched.DonPerian
Finally, someone gets it.

Do you guys have any proof that these screens are touched? And I'm not talking about normal procedure that applies to all these racing games' replay mode, because that's a given, and we'll be able to reproduce images like this ourselves when the title is released. So other than that, any link, interview, or evidence whatsoever that these screens have been touched up beyond what the game will already do itself - or is this pure speculation on your guys' part?


They are from photomode. Fact.
Photomode adds Anti Aliasing, and other post processing effects. Fact.
Turn 10 has said these are photomode ("All can be done in game", since photomode is part of the game)
While I'm not trying to say Forza 3 looks crap, it can turn crap looking games into great images. Examples... These are GT4 by the way...
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I don't understand how anyone who owns both a PS3 and a Xbox 360 can be excited about a game that's going to be only half of what the game GT 5 will be.
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[QUOTE="RedruM_I"][QUOTE="marklarmer"]actually i was just pointing out the mindless hypocrisy cows bring to every Forza 3 thread, where they constantly label the game 'cartoony' (because thats one of the few criticisms they actually have left) whilst praising Uncharted for being "vibrant".

marklarmer
Uncharted is not a simulation game. If Heavy Rain looked like Ratchet and Clank, no matter how good graphics is people would mock it because it is claiming to be something is not. Uncharted was designed to look cartoony, Forza shouldn't look cartoony if they want to call it a realistic racing game. Are these concepts so hard to understand?

yet GTs less realistic physics and half-baked damage somehow makes it uber-realistic right :roll: again, you're just calling it cartoony to annoy people, when the colours are clearly just more vibrant than GT.

You played GT 5?
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#135 MasteRich
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I don't understand how anyone who owns both a PS3 and a Xbox 360 can be excited about a game that's going to be only half of what the game GT 5 will be.jakarai
This.
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[QUOTE="DonPerian"][QUOTE="aaronmullan"] Finally, someone gets it. zero_snake99

Do you guys have any proof that these screens are touched? And I'm not talking about normal procedure that applies to all these racing games' replay mode, because that's a given, and we'll be able to reproduce images like this ourselves when the title is released. So other than that, any link, interview, or evidence whatsoever that these screens have been touched up beyond what the game will already do itself - or is this pure speculation on your guys' part?


They are from photomode. Fact.
Photomode adds Anti Aliasing, and other post processing effects. Fact.
Turn 10 has said these are photomode ("All can be done in game", since photomode is part of the game)
While I'm not trying to say Forza 3 looks crap, it can turn crap looking games into great images. Examples... These are GT4 by the way...
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That game has sweet graphics i was playin it earlier.
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I don't understand how anyone who owns both a PS3 and a Xbox 360 can be excited about a game that's going to be only half of what the game GT 5 will be.jakarai
I dont understand how anyone with both can be excited about a game that may never get released.
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[QUOTE="IronBass"][QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]And I'll never understand why people post in a thread about not understanding the posting of new shots, whether they're touched up or not. New media is new media.BioShockOwnz

I posted to call out the bullshots, in case somebody believe they were actual ingame pics. I'm always wanting to help to defeat fanboyish misinformation.

Turn 10 are lying fanboys, then?

he never said anything about fanboys, but they can post those shots as game footage not ingame footage catch my drift.
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It looks good but im worried about the environment graphics
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I don't understand how anyone who owns both a PS3 and a Xbox 360 can be excited about a game that's going to be only half of what the game GT 5 will be.jakarai
I dont understand how somebody can know anything about racers and regard GT5 to be a sim:|
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#141 killa4lyfe
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[QUOTE="GreyFoXX4"]

Heck it even looks cartoony compared to this game

You know there other racers out there like forza right? But none of them will be like GT5 :)

BioShockOwnz

Yeah, Forza will be AAA, while the rest will be AA. :) AAA franchise ftw!

dude i thought u were of the fanboy pills, guess i was wrong :( remember u made me bring it out :cry:

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#142 deactivated-5e836a855beb2
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I don't understand how anyone who owns both a PS3 and a Xbox 360 can be excited about a game that's going to be only half of what the game GT 5 will be.jakarai
I don't get it. What can possibly make GT5 twice the game? Twice the cars? Is that all that matters? Is it like pokemon? Gotta catch 'em all? Or is there something more in depth I'm missing...
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#143 Communistsheep
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Bioshock, you are quite the hypocrite aren't you, you call anyone who says those are bullshots a fanboy. and some other person think it was the Yandere guy a anti 360 fanboy while he was just messing with you. Then go around using bulshots of Forza 3 when gameplay is availble. Which looks good as it is.

That crappy youtube video in your sig just makes to so much more irony. ''HES A FASCISTS, NO HE IS A COMMUNIST, HES A RUSSIAN, HES CANADIAN, HES A MUSLIM, HE WORKS FOR BIN LADEN, HE DOES DRUGS, HE IS A SOCIALIST, HE IS A NAZI, HE IS THE ANTI CHRIST, HE IS ANTI WHITE BLARGH!'' Make up your mind.

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#144 zero_snake99
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[QUOTE="zero_snake99"]

[QUOTE="DonPerian"] Do you guys have any proof that these screens are touched? And I'm not talking about normal procedure that applies to all these racing games' replay mode, because that's a given, and we'll be able to reproduce images like this ourselves when the title is released. So other than that, any link, interview, or evidence whatsoever that these screens have been touched up beyond what the game will already do itself - or is this pure speculation on your guys' part?Rza_rectah


They are from photomode. Fact.
Photomode adds Anti Aliasing, and other post processing effects. Fact.
Turn 10 has said these are photomode ("All can be done in game", since photomode is part of the game)
While I'm not trying to say Forza 3 looks crap, it can turn crap looking games into great images. Examples... These are GT4 by the way...
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That game has sweet graphics i was playin it earlier.

Well, for a PS2 game yes. (Forza 1 looked better). But we all know GT4 graphics weren't this good in game.

Anyway, point being. Photomode makes games look better.

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[QUOTE="killa4lyfe"]Gran Turismo Series Avg: 93.25% Forza Motorsport Series Avg: 91%

so, in the end, they're both excellent series with almost equal scores?
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[QUOTE="jakarai"]I don't understand how anyone who owns both a PS3 and a Xbox 360 can be excited about a game that's going to be only half of what the game GT 5 will be.Jandurin
I don't get it. What can possibly make GT5 twice the game? Twice the cars? Is that all that matters? Is it like pokemon? Gotta catch 'em all? Or is there something more in depth I'm missing...

Yeah I never understood the ultimate "who's penis is bigger based on amount of cars in a racing game" thing that GT prides itself in.
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#147 zero_snake99
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Bioshock, you are quite the hypocrite aren't you, you call anyone who says those are bullshots a fanboy. and some other person think it was the Yandere guy a anti 360 fanboy while he was just messing with you. Then go around using bulshots of Forza 3 when gameplay is availble. Which looks good as it is.

That crappy youtube video in your sig just makes to so much more irony. ''HES A FASCISTS, NO HE IS A COMMUNIST, HES A RUSSIAN, HES CANADIAN, HES A MUSLIM, HE WORKS FOR BIN LADEN, HE DOES DRUGS, HE IS A SOCIALIST, HE IS A NAZI, HE IS THE ANTI CHRIST, HE IS ANTI WHITE BLARGH!'' Make up your mind.

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I thought his sig was spot on. It makes lots of sense /sarcasm. Anyone who knows about politics would know that all those statements are false... The US would be the last country to become socialized lol...
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#148 killa4lyfe
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[QUOTE="Jandurin"][QUOTE="killa4lyfe"]Gran Turismo Series Avg: 93.25% Forza Motorsport Series Avg: 91%

so, in the end, they're both excellent series with almost equal scores?

yeah exactly....:| yet some people *not saying who* keeps saying one series is AA and soooo much inferior to the other one. just trying to douse out the lies ;)
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[QUOTE="killa4lyfe"][QUOTE="Jandurin"][QUOTE="killa4lyfe"]Gran Turismo Series Avg: 93.25% Forza Motorsport Series Avg: 91%

so, in the end, they're both excellent series with almost equal scores?

yeah exactly....:| yet some people *not saying who* keeps saying one series is AA and soooo much inferior to the other one. just trying to douse out the lies ;)

ohhh just because one of them got an 89? That's what he was saying? Lame.
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#150 -Pred-Alien-
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[QUOTE="killa4lyfe"][QUOTE="Jandurin"][QUOTE="killa4lyfe"]Gran Turismo Series Avg: 93.25% Forza Motorsport Series Avg: 91%

so, in the end, they're both excellent series with almost equal scores?

yeah exactly....:| yet some people *not saying who* keeps saying one series is AA and soooo much inferior to the other one. just trying to douse out the lies ;)

http://www.gamerankings.com/n64/197462-goldeneye-007/index.html Goldeneye 007 is greater than any FPS out there seewutididther:roll: