WHo said Uncharted 2 doesnt look better then crysis this says different.

I could see how someone might believe that.TREY_FOR_LI4E

[QUOTE="TREY_FOR_LI4E"] I could see how someone might believe that.washd123

you could see how someone could believe a fact? are you one of those 'gravity isnt a fact its devine falling' people?

[QUOTE="washd123"]

[QUOTE="TREY_FOR_LI4E"] You're entitled to your opinion.TREY_FOR_LI4E

yeah guess what though its not a matter of opinion. graphics arent opinion theyre technical fact.

and theres no such thing as a visual bar since thats all opinion and the hypothetical bar means something different to everyone

Ok some PS3 fanboys are getting crazy about uncharted 2 lately especially graphics wise ( i can though understand them since it looks a great game )

BUT comparing uncharted 2 that runs on hardware designed in 2004-2005 to crysis even on a mid end PC with an 8800gt or 4850 is simply stupid

You can optimize and optimize and optimize 5years a game on consoles but is not magically gonna tranform that gimped down 7900gtx to anything better. It should be already pretty obvious that console games cannot achieve graphic level of games like crysis. stalker clear sky and Arma 2 and games like empires total war that feature thousand of units on screen by the fact that almost ALL games on PS3 and 360 are running at 720p or lower and usually without AA where as a freakin $80 8800gt can run something like COD or mirrors edge or FEAR2 at 1080p and with 4xAA

You wanna impress me? Show me uncharted 2 running at 1680x1050 ( crysis running like that easily o n very high with a $130-140gtx260 216+ ) with as much to render on screen as crysis renders. You cant because 1. its running in 720p only and 2. Its much smaller world than crysis

Also cutscene even using ingame engine graphics are touched up since there is no gameplay and obviously most U2 screens posted are touched up by the fact that are using alot of AA which i didnt know that ps3 was able to do anything better than 2xMSAA practically ( theoritical can do up to 16xAA but even 2xAA has trouble doing)

[QUOTE="washd123"]

[QUOTE="TREY_FOR_LI4E"] I could see how someone might believe that.TREY_FOR_LI4E

you could see how someone could believe a fact? are you one of those 'gravity isnt a fact its devine falling' people?

SUCCESFUL TROLL SUCCESFUL. (guy is being a troll just let it go AHJAHAHAHA)

its kinda not fair for a 299 console against a much more expensive one

Look at the insane amount of detail in the face its crazy. Crysis killer indeed. http://i35.tinypic.com/2hftl3n.jpg http://i35.tinypic.com/s5wy1y.jpg http://i34.tinypic.com/118qafn.jpgcrysiskiller346

[QUOTE="urdead18"] No it shouldn't. PC hardware is extremely hard to optimize for, which makes all the difference. Crysis should be able to run fine on a 8800GT @ 1920x1080 if it was properly optimized, yet it lags on any single card out right now at that res. (Excluding the 295 and 4870x2)washd123

i always laugh when poeple call crysis unoptimized. first off compared to what? what are you basing this claim on? the fact that it doesnt run perfect on hardware? thats not a good measure at all.

fact is crysis is well optimized. its pushing so much especially at higher resolutions and settings, more so than any other game out there pc or other wise. theres so far been no game that even touches crysis in the graphics department. not to mention hardware has been slow to evolve as well.

[QUOTE="urdead18"] Hardware has been slow to evolve? The 8800GT launched in 2007, now we have monsters like the GTX 295 and the 4870x2. Crysis is poorly optimized, however much I love the game it's not hard to see. If they can pull something like Crysis 2 off on the consoles, which are clearly weaker than what's required to play Crysis on high, it sort of screams about how unoptimized the game really is. Crysis Warhead was a bit better, but I fully expect Crysis 2 and the new engine to be much better optimized. Didn't they say Crysis 2 will run better than Crysis? That's optimization.washd123

the 8800gtx came out in 07 as did the hd2900xt

the next high end cards to be released were the 9800gtx and the hd3870 both had essentially the same hardware as the predecessor with a better drivers, some more abilities, ect.

next cards were the gtx2 and the hd4 series both were the first big leaps the high end market has seen.

thats what i meant by slow to evolve thats why it seems like high end hardware still cant run it. and on both the pc and consoles 1080p is still a high res. and forget about 2560x1600. theyre high resolutions, its really not surprising to see a game with crysis's tech not run so well on those resolutions at all.

and look at the graphics of the console version. mediumhigh 720p 30fps. you do realize even lowend hardware can pull that off like the 9500gt or the hd3670 can pull that off.

and look at the optimization done in warhead. they reduced the draw distance, decreased the volumetric effects in the environment and offloaded most of everything to the post processing. not to mention the game looks significantly weaker than crysis.

thats not optimization thats called a downgrade.

i expect the same thing from CE3 pretty much a downgrade without mods.

again the only people who call crysis unoptimized have no idea what theyre talking about

Didn't we just have a huge thread about this? And no those faces aren't as detailed as crysis models. I think it's mostly fakeboys making these claims.

Edit
This is gameplay, on playable settings, on a mid-range rig.

BUT comparing uncharted 2 that runs on hardware designed in 2004-2005 to crysis even on a mid end PC with an 8800gt or 4850 is simply stupid

adamosmaki

Well, that's the problem. Sony fans (and console users in general) simply don't have the knowledge (and, hence not the ability to use common sense in the context) in hardware required to know for a fact that no upcoming game on their system will ever come close to Crysis (or any of the other ten or so PC games I can list, that visually outperform anything on consoles). This is very apparent, especially in threads like this one. Key words often being 'common sense'. Use it.

As for the person who had his/her hopes up of seeing Uncharted 2, when released, dethrone Crysis as graphics king, do you attend to the race track with hopes of seeing a 2009 Fiat Punto outrun a 2005 Ferrari Enzo as well? I don't think you do, because commons sense tells you that the Ferrari is vastly superior performance-wise.

Uncharted 2 does look great though...

Just off topic here. Gotta say i'm really please they have given Drake those scars! Gives him slightly more character than just the pretty boy he seemed at first.

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[QUOTE="cowgriller"]

it's also from a cutscene, not actual gameplay like the crysis pics that have been posted.

cowgriller

Cutscenes are rendered with the ingame engine and models.

hence the use of bink video. it's used in almost every game. it gives the developer the ability to make a cgi cutscene using the games engine and assets without it being taxing on the system. it also saves on disc space because true cgi video, those that are made from scratch and not from game assets, can be several hundred megabytes in size depending on the resolution, bit rate and length of time.

What is your point? The screens are still indicative of what the game and the PS3 are capable of. In fact the cutscenes don't represent the best of what the game has to offer, gameplay visuals surpass the cutscenes.

Have cows taken over this forum?

This matter shouldn't even be up for debate.

These threads are still going?

Why is it I get Cows insisting that the PS3 users responsible for these arguments are a minority; and to not be associated with the group of Cows on SW, however threads like this and many others continue to plague the 1st page?

And people wonder why I take issue with Cows over every other SW group, they're the only group arrogant enough to think they can stand toe to toe with modern PC hardware. They complain about Crysis being brought up but insist on challenging it in threads like this.

Uncharted 2 looks amazing, but it in no way compares to Crysis graphically. The Uncharted 2 screens in this thread are cutscenes which are rendered in-engine, not in-game. This allows the devs to use high poly models and high AA which they wouldn't be able to use in-game.

Uncharted 2 looks amazing, but it in no way compares to Crysis graphically. The Uncharted 2 screens in this thread are cutscenes which are rendered in-engine, not in-game. This allows the devs to use high poly models and high AA which they wouldn't be able to use in-game.steve17989

uncharted 2 is one of the few games this gen where cutscenes = gameplay just like crysis. but either way uncharted 2 cant even come close.

even if uncharted 2 ran at 1080p with as good of textures and lighting as crysis, crysis would still win due to scale,

These threads are still going?

Why is it I get Cows insisting that the PS3 users responsible for these arguments are a minority; and to not be associated with the group of Cows on SW, however threads like this and many others continue to plague the 1st page?

And people wonder why I take issue with Cows over every other SW group, they're the only group arrogant enough to think they can stand toe to toe with modern PC hardware. They complain about Crysis being brought up but insist on challenging it in threads like this.

AnnoyedDragon

Sony brainwashed them into thinking the PS3 is a super computer, that is all.:P

mitu123

[QUOTE="mitu123"]

Sony brainwashed them into thinking the PS3 is a super computer, that is all.:P

Jandurin

But the thing is that for Uncharted, it looks better in game than in a cutscene

i have no plans of playing Uncharted just to stare at Drake's face.

[QUOTE="mitu123"]

Sony brainwashed them into thinking the PS3 is a super computer, that is all.:P

Jandurin

It's a beautiful looking game for sure, but Crysis still looks better. I don't see why that's so hard to accept. :|

Before even trying to say U2 > Crysis it would need first be better then Mass Effect 2. :P

Before even trying to say U2 > Crysis it would need first be better then Mass Effect 2. :P

SecretPolice

[QUOTE="SecretPolice"]

Before even trying to say U2 > Crysis it would need first be better then Mass Effect 2. :P

Jandurin

Before even trying to compare to M.E. 2, U2 would need to be better then Crysis. :P

[QUOTE="Jandurin"][QUOTE="SecretPolice"]

Before even trying to say U2 > Crysis it would need first be better then Mass Effect 2. :P

SecretPolice

Before even trying to compare to M.E. 2, U2 would need to be better then Crysis. :P

[QUOTE="RawDeal_basic"]

Uncharted 2 does look great though...

GreyFoXX4

Take your fanboy goggles off please.

we almost need a thread specifically for post like this.

nightcall14

I have not played Uncharted 2, but I have seen trailers for the game. And to me Crysis is not in a league of its own. People say Crysis is miles better than Uncharted 2, I just dont buy that. Uncharted 2 is a beautiful game from what I have seen.

Before even trying to say U2 > Crysis it would need first be better then Mass Effect 2. :P

SecretPolice

Well, on to Crysis then.

this thread makes me laugh haha :lol::lol::lol:

Before even trying to say U2 > Crysis it would need first be better then Mass Effect 2. :P

I have not played Uncharted 2, but I have seen trailers for the game. And to me Crysis is not in a league of its own. People say Crysis is miles better than Uncharted 2, I just dont buy that. Uncharted 2 is a beautiful game from what I have seen.

GTSaiyanjin2

I've seen it on youtube in HD, it's beautiful.

What's up with these ps3 fanboys...Maxed out crysis on PC is just not going to be beaten (on the graphics departement), by any console game this generation... That's even ok, there's probably less than 10 percent of PCs (probably less) who can run it like this. My pc has a GTX 285 (light years ahead of RSX) and I am far from maxing out that game, so a console... And I'm not of these pc gamers who hate consoles, I love my 360 and like my ps3... But please stop doing this everytime another game comes out...

What's up with these ps3 fanboys...Maxed out crysis on PC is just not going to be beaten (on the graphics departement), by any console game this generation...usule

Crysis killer indeed.crysiskiller346

ive beaten uncharted and most of the time sequels have minimal upgrades in graphics. What ur showing right now is probably just hype, though I cant wait for the game.

http://images.gamersyde.com/image_uncharted_2_among_thieves-10712-1769_0002.jpg

Looks pretty damn good to me , Crisis still wins but the difference starts to elude me especialy when i see uncharted in motion, animations are also a part of the looks. EDIT : Crisis wins hands down, the difference is quite noticeable, but i still like uncharted more when in motion.

We have reached a point where hardware won't be the bottle neck in game development, design, ideas and execution will be.

So finaly PC hardware elitists can shut the f*** up already.

A level 1 poster was able to make a 200 post thread with a ridiculous topic like U2 looking better than Crysis?

*facepalm*

Here are the images for the lazy. Also, that's not a an account made for trolling at all. :roll:Maxyboy13