Why are all Main/Playable characters White?

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#51 glez13
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I suppose that if most games are made in countries where "white" is the majority, the games will reflect that.

In Men of Valor you are a black marine. ;)

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#52 lundy86_4  Online
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[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

[QUOTE="Lto_thaG"] Yea,but I wasn't talking about that.You shoot black people too in the game,just like in RE5..But I don't remember hearing complaints about it.Lto_thaG

Of course there werent... I mean there's no way it's anywhere near as popular as RE... I mean common sense is one thing few of these people have when complaining :P Guaranteed the majority of people who were complaining probably weren't black

N'Gai Croal(sp?) complained and that black girl's blog(I think). They're black.

I don't doubt there were black people who complained obviously, but I can guarantee it wasn't all... People just like to give things they don't like negative press... Some people are too righteous for their own good

edit: well not guarantee as I doubt I will find physical evidence :P

lol anyways we're going off topic a little

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lol i think 3rd picture is the racist one, that preying mantis was just minding his own business when the robot pulled out a gun.

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box 1....no box 2.....no box 3..... yes!!!

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#55 treyskillz
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Thats not right, you can't group together all those people in one group "white" there is a difference between the vast groups of people who get called "white". So quit the racism card

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#56 surrealnumber5
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I really don't think i've seen a non white main/playable character. Most of the main/playable characters are white people, like gears 1&2, killzone2, uncharted 1&2, dark sector, assassins creed, etc. Even with comic book super hero's they are all white too, whats the deal?

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whats wrong with white people and there are plenty of Asian leads
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#57 Silent-Hal
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[QUOTE="cloudff7tm"]

Wasn't the main character of The Suffering black?

Lto_thaG
I don't think so :P

He was supposed to be. I think they wanted to make him ambiguous in the first game but that was thrown out the window in Ties That Bind. He has a black wife and kids, lives in a predominantly black neighbourhood, speaks like a black person and is referred to as 'brother' by some of black supporting characters :P.
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#58 lundy86_4  Online
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Thats not right, you can't group together all those people in one group "white" there is a difference between the vast groups of people who get called "white". So quit the racism card

treyskillz

exactly... though the racism card will never go away. One of my black friends actually hates the word racism and people who use it.

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#59 Lto_thaG
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[QUOTE="Lto_thaG"][QUOTE="cloudff7tm"]

Wasn't the main character of The Suffering black?

Silent-Hal
I don't think so :P

He was supposed to be. I think they wanted to make him ambiguous in the first game but was thrown out the window in Ties That Bind. He was a black wife and kids, lives in a predominantly black neighbourhood, speaks like a black person and is referred to as 'brother' by some of black supporting characters :P.

Aah,I see.Good game though :P
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#60 cloudff7tm
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[QUOTE="cloudff7tm"]

[QUOTE="Lto_thaG"] I don't think so :PLto_thaG

Looks like he is to me.


He's white.

Oh really.

http://blogs.bet.com/entertainment/gameplay/top-20-black-characters-in-gaming-13-torque-the-suffering/

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#61 lhughey
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I dont think anyone is saying that not having a black/minority character is racist. I think having diverse characters (men/women/old/young/black/white/etc) help create varied stories and experiences.
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Assassin's Creed? Prince of Persia? There are some Middle Eastern main characters in gaming today.
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#63 surrealnumber5
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[QUOTE="Lto_thaG"]

[QUOTE="cloudff7tm"]

Looks like he is to me.

cloudff7tm


He's white.

Oh really.

http://blogs.bet.com/entertainment/gameplay/top-20-black-characters-in-gaming-13-torque-the-suffering/

all black people look white to me

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#64 DonPerian
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Altair from Assassin's Creed isn't white, he's middle eastern. Also, GTA San Andreas doesn't have a playable white character.
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#65 loco145
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Assassin's Creed? Prince of Persia? There are some Middle Eastern main characters in gaming today.princeofshapeir
The Guy from Ass cred was white European.

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#66 Lto_thaG
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[QUOTE="Lto_thaG"]

[QUOTE="cloudff7tm"]

Looks like he is to me.

cloudff7tm


He's white.

Oh really.

I don't know what the hell is up with him,but he looks white.
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#67 blue_hazy_basic  Moderator
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I'd say most (western) developers are white and so will gravitate to white characters. Perhaps we need more black developers to make main characters who are black? If you have an issue with it get yourself out there out and do something about it!
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[QUOTE="GTR_FX"]

cause that the way the game designers made, its entirely up to them

HOWEVER, I am seeing more and more main characters that are black, asian european and middle eastern

like Carl and Neko from GTA

and im not white, im a Persian in the US

persians are white, white boy
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#69 loco145
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I'd say most (western) developers are white and so will gravitate to white characters. Perhaps we need more black developers to make main characters who are black? If you have an issue with it get yourself out there out and do something about it!blue_hazy_basic
We even see an unusual amount of white Caucasian protagonist from Eastern developers...

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I really don't think i've seen a non white main/playable character. Most of the main/playable characters are white people, like gears 1&2, killzone2, uncharted 1&2, dark sector, assassins creed, etc. Even with comic book super hero's they are all white too, whats the deal?

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Look who's making the games, mostly white people!

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[QUOTE="treyskillz"]

Thats not right, you can't group together all those people in one group "white" there is a difference between the vast groups of people who get called "white". So quit the racism card

lundy86_4

exactly... though the racism card will never go away. One of my black friends actually hates the word racism and people who use it.

Yea I know it won't go away but seriously does it matter what the character's genetic history(or where they came from). What happens when we get mixed characters, "white people" born and raised in africa, or GRAY characters like Kratos thrown into the game?

Since RE5 comes out tomorrow I'll use that as an example... I never found it racist. If anyone regardless of color, found themself being attacked by mobs of people (monsters, etc.) they should be able to defend themselves without having the thought "maybe this is racist" even crossing their mind.

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#72 cloudff7tm
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[QUOTE="cloudff7tm"]

[QUOTE="Lto_thaG"]
He's white.

Lto_thaG

Oh really.

I don't know what the hell is up with him,but he looks white.
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Well yeah, he kind of does.

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[QUOTE="Lto_thaG"]

[QUOTE="cloudff7tm"]

Oh really.

cloudff7tm

I don't know what the hell is up with him,but he looks white.

Well yeah, he kind of does.


The man's a mystery to me.

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#74 CubanBlunt
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Thats not right, you can't group together all those people in one group "white" there is a difference between the vast groups of people who get called "white". So quit the racism card

treyskillz

Obama is not black, but white people see all mixed people as black so what the difference?

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[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

[QUOTE="treyskillz"]

Thats not right, you can't group together all those people in one group "white" there is a difference between the vast groups of people who get called "white". So quit the racism card

treyskillz

exactly... though the racism card will never go away. One of my black friends actually hates the word racism and people who use it.

Yea I know it won't go away but seriously does it matter what the character's genetic history(or where they came from). What happens when we get mixed characters, "white people" born and raised in africa, or GRAY characters like Kratos thrown into the game?

Since RE5 comes out tomorrow I'll use that as an example... I never found it racist. If anyone regardless of color, found themself being attacked by mobs of people (monsters, etc.) they should be able to defend themselves without having the thought "maybe this is racist" even crossing their mind.

It's one of those words that has become popular. By all means certain people have the right to cry racism, if it is in fact racist. However to do so just for attention is disgusting and very contemptibla

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#76 lundy86_4  Online
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[QUOTE="treyskillz"]

Thats not right, you can't group together all those people in one group "white" there is a difference between the vast groups of people who get called "white". So quit the racism card

CubanBlunt

Obama is not black, but white people see all mixed people as black so what the difference?

Ahhh don't bandy all white people together, my friend is as black as can be, but his sister is mixed, and I don't see her as pure black. I just see her as my friend's sister

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#77 treyskillz
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[QUOTE="Lto_thaG"]

[QUOTE="cloudff7tm"]

Oh really.

cloudff7tm

I don't know what the hell is up with him,but he looks white.
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Well yeah, he kind of does.

He's just light brown .... not all "black" people are dark lol

Nobody here has ever seen a "white" girl with a tan the made them look like they were something else.

You can't judge a book by it's cover, and hey, maybe those game characters are mixed somewhere down the line like PETER GRIFFIN :lol:

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#78 treyskillz
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[QUOTE="treyskillz"]

Thats not right, you can't group together all those people in one group "white" there is a difference between the vast groups of people who get called "white". So quit the racism card

CubanBlunt

Obama is not black, but white people see all mixed people as black so what the difference?

Have you talk to every "white person" in the world? Don't group people together like that.

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[QUOTE="treyskillz"]

Thats not right, you can't group together all those people in one group "white" there is a difference between the vast groups of people who get called "white". So quit the racism card

CubanBlunt

Obama is not black, but white people see all mixed people as black so what the difference?

what! obama's black? i thought he was white. sure his hair was cut a bit short for a politician but come on black? really?
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[QUOTE="Senor_Kami"]I was reading some stuff about Matrix Reloaded and people were like, "there's alot of black people in that movie." LOL, lie 4/20 characters are black and all the others are white, but thats considered to be a massive amount. If you had a game with a non-white lead, I think the majority of americans would consider it to be a "race x" game. Similar to how any movie with a black lead other than Will Smith is considered to be a black movie. The only race that could skate buy is Asians, but only if the movie takes place in china town or involves Ninja. It'd be ok then. But if it was just the story of somebody was asian, I think most americans would be like, "Oh, this is a game for Chinese people (regardless of the actual country of origin) and would avoid it.lhughey
I agree 100%

Me too! You might can get away from racism, but you can't get away from stereotypes!

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#81 LoveStaindRed
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Superhero. Maybe.


And who cares? Think about it... Gamer:: Nerd:: skinny, white, thick glasses, sweater vest, kid.

Everyone is just trying to make some money :)

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#82 CubanBlunt
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[QUOTE="CubanBlunt"]

[QUOTE="treyskillz"]

Thats not right, you can't group together all those people in one group "white" there is a difference between the vast groups of people who get called "white". So quit the racism card

lundy86_4

Obama is not black, but white people see all mixed people as black so what the difference?

Ahhh don't bandy all white people together, my friend is as black as can be, but his sister is mixed, and I don't see her as pure black. I just see her as my friend's sister

But what is her race? Black or White?

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#83 treyskillz
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[QUOTE="treyskillz"]

[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

exactly... though the racism card will never go away. One of my black friends actually hates the word racism and people who use it.

lundy86_4

Yea I know it won't go away but seriously does it matter what the character's genetic history(or where they came from). What happens when we get mixed characters, "white people" born and raised in africa, or GRAY characters like Kratos thrown into the game?

Since RE5 comes out tomorrow I'll use that as an example... I never found it racist. If anyone regardless of color, found themself being attacked by mobs of people (monsters, etc.) they should be able to defend themselves without having the thought "maybe this is racist" even crossing their mind.

It's one of those words that has become popular. By all means certain people have the right to cry racism, if it is in fact racist. However to do so just for attention is disgusting and very contemptibla

agreed, but the topic was just created for attention I mean really this has nothing to do with System Wars

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[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

[QUOTE="CubanBlunt"]

Obama is not black, but white people see all mixed people as black so what the difference?

CubanBlunt

Ahhh don't bandy all white people together, my friend is as black as can be, but his sister is mixed, and I don't see her as pure black. I just see her as my friend's sister

But what is her race? Black or White?

She sees herself as both... She likes her Scottish heritage just as much

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[QUOTE="cloudff7tm"]

[QUOTE="Lto_thaG"] I don't know what the hell is up with him,but he looks white.
*pictures*

treyskillz

Well yeah, he kind of does.

He's just light brown .... not all "black" people are dark lol

He has the same skin tone as me.

And I'm white.

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[QUOTE="princeofshapeir"]Assassin's Creed? Prince of Persia? There are some Middle Eastern main characters in gaming today.loco145

The Guy from Ass cred was white European.

Altair is middle eastern, I think Jade Raymond said it in an interview, and its pretty obvious by looking and listening to him
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#87 t3hTwinky
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Well, I guess we're all a little white.

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[QUOTE="CubanBlunt"]

[QUOTE="treyskillz"]

Thats not right, you can't group together all those people in one group "white" there is a difference between the vast groups of people who get called "white". So quit the racism card

treyskillz

Obama is not black, but white people see all mixed people as black so what the difference?

Have you talk to every "white person" in the world? Don't group people together like that.

But it's kool to group blacks together:roll:, everyone with dark skin is not black, but most white people still think there are.

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Didn't you know? All developers are RACIST.

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[QUOTE="CubanBlunt"]

[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

Ahhh don't bandy all white people together, my friend is as black as can be, but his sister is mixed, and I don't see her as pure black. I just see her as my friend's sister

lundy86_4

But what is her race? Black or White?

She sees herself as both... She likes her Scottish heritage just as much

What do you see her as?

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#91 treyskillz
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So since this topic has nothing to do with System Wars and is more suited to General Gaming let's refocus this topic until it is closed.

Topic starters could be:

MLB The Show is not exclusive

Wii is dominating in sales but doesn't have the games

Xbox360 and PS3 are the twins with there being no point in owning both

etc. etc. etc.

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#92 habkeinbock
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you see the details better on a light skin collor ! maybe a small reason for some developer

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#93 GTR_FX
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cause that the way the game designers made, its entirely up to them

HOWEVER, I am seeing more and more main characters that are black, asian european and middle eastern

like Carl and Neko from GTA

and im not white, im a Persian in the US

loser1222

persians are white, white boy

its is difficult to explain

Real persian almosr look European, Iran literally means "land of the Aryians", however today Perisan range from almost white/european looking, to light brown, to brown.

I've seen persian with blue eyes and blonde hair and i've seen perisans that middle eastern

im have light brown skin

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[QUOTE="CubanBlunt"]

[QUOTE="treyskillz"]

[QUOTE="CubanBlunt"]

Obama is not black, but white people see all mixed people as black so what the difference?

Have you talk to every "white person" in the world? Don't group people together like that.

But it's kool to group blacks together:roll:, everyone with dark skin is not black, but most white people still think there are.

"white" people are not a homgenous "shade" either. Hmmmm racism seems to work both ways.
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[QUOTE="treyskillz"]

[QUOTE="CubanBlunt"]

Obama is not black, but white people see all mixed people as black so what the difference?

CubanBlunt

Have you talk to every "white person" in the world? Don't group people together like that.

But it's kool to group blacks together:roll:, everyone with dark skin is not black, but most white people still think there are.

Did I say that? No. Don't group Whites, Blacks, Spanish, or Asians together, most ... how many is that?

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[QUOTE="loser1222"][QUOTE="GTR_FX"]

cause that the way the game designers made, its entirely up to them

HOWEVER, I am seeing more and more main characters that are black, asian european and middle eastern

like Carl and Neko from GTA

and im not white, im a Persian in the US

GTR_FX

persians are white, white boy

its is difficult to explain

Real persian almosr look European, Iran literally means "land of the Aryians", however today Perisan range from almost white/european looking, to light brown, to brown.

I've seen persian with blue eyes and blonde hair and i've seen perisans that middle eastern

im have light brown skin

some people don't get out much in the world... I think i've been pretty much everywhere in europe and am now living in Canada so I understand what you're getting at

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#97 surrealnumber5
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But what is her race? Black or White?

CubanBlunt

But it's kool to group blacks together:roll:, everyone with dark skin is not black, but most white people still think there are.

CubanBlunt

how odd, how incredably odd....

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#98 Scalien26
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Anyway, a serious answer. In games, you need character development, right? What if a developer is white? He doesn't know what a black's culture or whatever is like. Let me get an example from the movie business. Judd Apatow (Knocked Up, 40 y/o Virgin, etc.) was going to write a comedy that focused on gay dudes. However, when he started writing the script, he discovered that he knows nothing about gays at all. He doesn't know how to make the character develop, he doesn't know what goes on in a gay dudes head, etc. I'm not sure what the stats are for black and white developers, but I'm guessing that there are a lot more white guys making games than black guys. So yeah. That's a possible theory.

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#99 treyskillz
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[QUOTE="treyskillz"]

[QUOTE="cloudff7tm"]

Well yeah, he kind of does.

swazidoughman

He's just light brown .... not all "black" people are dark lol

He has the same skin tone as me.

And I'm white.

OMG that changes eveything

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#100 Master-Thief-09
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Light skinned? Maybe. Caucasian? Maybe not. And they guy in AC is not white.

Either way who cares, come back when Africa starts buying games.