Why are people so scared of Sony winning? PS2 was awesome!

PS2 is the best console of all time because it dominated and had all the games. Why are fanboys so scared of Sony winning with PS4? Sony does not rest on their laurels. They support their consoles for 10+ years every time whether they are winning/losing unlike nintendo/MS who give up on their consoles after 4 years.

When Sony was winning/dominating with the PS1 against the N64, they NEVER gave up. When Sony dominated with the PS2 they NEVER gave up and had the best games.

Like why wouldn't you guys want just one console that has all the games instead of buying 3? You make up excuses like Sony will turn it into a monopoly when Sony has already proven they won't with PS1 and PS2. They didn't jack up prices. They gave us amazing games and lowered prices.

Look at history. Sony always has the best exclusives every single gen.

Sony is the best and you people know it. They actually care about gamers.

They actually care about gamers...

lolno, they care about money

The atmosphere and overall market is different now. You can't quite compare Gen 5 and 6 to the current generation.

Here we go again.

because they got to where they are at by buying 3rd party exclusivity...stealing ideas ....they basically killed sega.....stealing nintendo's 3rd party..

they are money hungry evil bastards that deserve to be last place like last gen.

truth is, gamers are wih Sony. You only need to look at the numbers to know that.

@SolidGame_basic: what numbers?

yea and people who want to watch blu-rays(ps3), dvds(ps2) and listen to cds(ps1)

and watch porn(xbox)

people are just butthurt their preferred platform is shit.

During Gen 5 and 6? No.

Still waiting for the next big first party game on Vita....

Please stop creating threads

If Sony cared so much about lowering prices, why make psn+ obligatory for online about 15$ for ps now?

Sony didn't steal nintendo's 3rd party. The 3rd parties chose to leave because of nintendo's horrible rules/policies/limits/restrictions/decisions etc. It is well documented that nintendo constantly pushes 3rd parties away any chance they get. It is what they have in common with WWE/Vince. They have a massive ego and are too stubborn. They refuse to change.

They want to live in the 80's, do drugs and appeal to children.

Blame microsoft/XBL for that. Sony would not have ever charged for online if people were not stupid enough to pay for it. All last gen I bragged about PS3's free online and Xbox/CoD/Halo fans bashed me for it saying XBL was sooooo much better when it is the exact same thing. Like LOL.

Wii U has horrible online. It is worse than the PS2's online. Socom 2 was amazing on PS2 and the wii u can't even reach that greatness because they are too scared people will swear online. The whole friendcodes thing is a joke and it ruins the online experience.

So you are admitting Sony is taking advantage of stupidity of Sony fans?

That I agree.

can you provide evidence that they bought 3rd party exclusivity and stole it from Nintendo? It was my understanding that Sony's policies on how they treated 3rd parties were simply better and that's why some jumped ship.

@stuff238: Sony decided to make that way because they're greedy but you're too far in their butt to realise it

They are afraid because Sony is the King of the console business and they know it. The first gen they entered they took Segas and nintendos marketshare like candy from a child.

Furthermore, Nintendo is a rehash factory with no real relevance to the market anymore while MS is just a second rate manufacturer with some serious contempt for their own customers so the fanboys of said corporations blame Sony for their own incompetent and shitty corporation of affection.

Or just simply converted to Sony...

Edit: Just look at MS 180s the whole year and how much praise they got from it, while they more or less copied Sonys already established business practices. While Sony got shit for copying MS with the PS+ requirement. That just shows that Sony can only get worse by copying nintendo or MS.

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it's called jealousy

Sony takes over console gaming, and next thing we know console gamers will only have the option to pay to rent digital games with PS Now and PS+, and pay for online.

Consoles will be dead not long after.

I guess that wouldn't be so bad. Everyone will just move to PC gaming, or quit gaming.

Dude, does kaz at least take you out sometimes?

Lemmings are jealous, jealous, creatures.

If I had to choose just one I would stick with Sony but they're no saints by any means.

So true, Sony enters and a year later we can only buy licences or rent games. /s

Sony got hate from nintendo and sega fans the second they stepped in. Later they got shit from MS fanboys for any reason they could come up with just like you are doing right now.

And lol at your "move to PC gaming" bullshit. Yeah, lets all move to the plattform which is the most riddled with DRM and where you only get licences.

LOL Cows.

Hey, quit your shit posting. I'm tired of getting blamed for your crap

Sega of Japan Killed Sega.. Learn your history... I was alive during it and before. Read the book "Console Wars" Sega America was going to partner with sony , but Sega Japan was too prideful and didn't like Tom Kolinski and crew from Sega USA having success so they sabotaged everything Sega USA wanted to do. Hence the Saturn, 32x, and Dreamcast fiascos...

@thegreatgeneral said:

They are afraid because Sony is the King of the console business and they know it. The first gen they entered they took Segas and nintendos marketshare like candy from a child.

Furthermore, Nintendo is a rehash factory with no real relevance to the market anymore while MS is just a second rate manufacturer with some serious contempt for their own customers so the fanboys of said corporations blame Sony for their own incompetent and shitty corporation of affection.

Or just simply converted to Sony...

Edit: Just look at MS 180s the whole year and how much praise they got from it, while they more or less copied Sonys already established business practices. While Sony got shit for copying MS with the PS+ requirement. That just shows that Sony can only get worse by copying nintendo or MS.

And they lost it the 3rd gen over Nintendo,eh.

And calling Nintendo a rehash factory is ironic considering current PS4's postion

@MonsieurX said:

@thegreatgeneral said:

They are afraid because Sony is the King of the console business and they know it. The first gen they entered they took Segas and nintendos marketshare like candy from a child.

Furthermore, Nintendo is a rehash factory with no real relevance to the market anymore while MS is just a second rate manufacturer with some serious contempt for their own customers so the fanboys of said corporations blame Sony for their own incompetent and shitty corporation of affection.

Or just simply converted to Sony...

Edit: Just look at MS 180s the whole year and how much praise they got from it, while they more or less copied Sonys already established business practices. While Sony got shit for copying MS with the PS+ requirement. That just shows that Sony can only get worse by copying nintendo or MS.

And they lost it the 3rd gen over Nintendo,eh.

And calling Nintendo a rehash factory is ironic considering current PS4's postion

If anything they lost that marketshare to MS in the first year but even with a 600$ pricetag they outsold them each year WW. Nobody jumped ship to nintendo.

Nintendos succes in the last gen was based on soccer moms and old people that wanted to play wii sports.

And calling Nintendo a rehash factory is ironic considering current PS4's postion

And what position would that be? You mean the position with the biggest, most diverse library out of the 3 and with the most exclusives for 2015 announced?

@thegreatgeneral said:

@MonsieurX said:

@thegreatgeneral said:

They are afraid because Sony is the King of the console business and they know it. The first gen they entered they took Segas and nintendos marketshare like candy from a child.

Furthermore, Nintendo is a rehash factory with no real relevance to the market anymore while MS is just a second rate manufacturer with some serious contempt for their own customers so the fanboys of said corporations blame Sony for their own incompetent and shitty corporation of affection.

Or just simply converted to Sony...

Edit: Just look at MS 180s the whole year and how much praise they got from it, while they more or less copied Sonys already established business practices. While Sony got shit for copying MS with the PS+ requirement. That just shows that Sony can only get worse by copying nintendo or MS.

And they lost it the 3rd gen over Nintendo,eh.

And calling Nintendo a rehash factory is ironic considering current PS4's postion

If anything they lost that marketshare to MS in the first year but even with a 600$ pricetag they outsold them each year WW. Nobody jumped ship to nintendo.

Nintendos succes in the last gen was based on soccer moms and old people that wanted to play wii sports.

And calling Nintendo a rehash factory is ironic considering current PS4's postion

And what position would that be? You mean the position with the biggest, most diverse library out of the 3 and with the most exclusives for 2015 announced?

It didn't. PS3 had shitty sales for the first 2 years,before the price cuts

http://vgsales.wikia.com/wiki/PlayStation_3

http://vgsales.wikia.com/wiki/Xbox_360

All dem excuses

And I lol'd at the last part

@MonsieurX said:

@thegreatgeneral said:

@MonsieurX said:

@thegreatgeneral said:

They are afraid because Sony is the King of the console business and they know it. The first gen they entered they took Segas and nintendos marketshare like candy from a child.

Furthermore, Nintendo is a rehash factory with no real relevance to the market anymore while MS is just a second rate manufacturer with some serious contempt for their own customers so the fanboys of said corporations blame Sony for their own incompetent and shitty corporation of affection.

Or just simply converted to Sony...

Edit: Just look at MS 180s the whole year and how much praise they got from it, while they more or less copied Sonys already established business practices. While Sony got shit for copying MS with the PS+ requirement. That just shows that Sony can only get worse by copying nintendo or MS.

And they lost it the 3rd gen over Nintendo,eh.

And calling Nintendo a rehash factory is ironic considering current PS4's postion

If anything they lost that marketshare to MS in the first year but even with a 600$ pricetag they outsold them each year WW. Nobody jumped ship to nintendo.

Nintendos succes in the last gen was based on soccer moms and old people that wanted to play wii sports.

And calling Nintendo a rehash factory is ironic considering current PS4's postion

And what position would that be? You mean the position with the biggest, most diverse library out of the 3 and with the most exclusives for 2015 announced?

It didn't. PS3 had shitty sales for the first 2 years,before the price cuts

http://vgsales.wikia.com/wiki/PlayStation_3

http://vgsales.wikia.com/wiki/Xbox_360

All dem excuses

And I lol'd at the last part

Yeah.. Im not gonna study this shit. I dont give as much of a **** about sales as most nintendo fans do. The finish is what matters in the end.

And I lol'd at the last part

"Future games dont count" shortsighted like a mule. Thankfully not everyone is like that.

Are you a day one WiiU owner?

Sega releasing hardware flop after flop killed Sega..along with EA, Sony just delievered the final blow

Like any company on this planet.

But some are more greedy Sony didn't fall back and stopped pushing games because the PS2 was winning like MS did...

I'm just saying they shouldn't be used as some glowing example of a company that is all about the consumer

Aaaaahh the Endless games that never ever touched Nintendos consoles,the game in games was so astronomical it wasn't even funny to compare and to think that N64 games were actually $70 and some even $80 while PS games were $50 and $40....Damn sony for the players.....

Most of the PS games weren't even bough Nintendo abused developers with its high ass royalties and basically games were Nintendos you had to license the games to them it was horrible,when sony showed up with low royalties and a format that actually gave some money back to developers they all abandon Nintendo in droves.

Nintendo abuse with high royalties was what cause them problems not that sony pay,and sega abused its consumers with the horde of dead peripherals which never supported and just drop like the 32x and the Sega CD which were expensive and almost not supported after they release.

But you wound't know that because you are 14 year old...lol

Getting tired of these peope who were probably still in diapers thinking they know what killed Sega or took market share from Nintendo. History Lesson #2:

1. Sega took 50% of market share from nintendo in the 16bit era. (previously nintendo had almost all of it with the NES.

2. Sega of Japan President hired Tom K. to head Sega USA, which was a shit hole office in California. Tom K turned Sega USA around and backed Sonic, and made sweeping marketing changes that made Sega take the market share from nintendo. It was also at this time that Nintendo betrayed Sony for phillips at CES.

3. Tom K from Sega USA was going to hire the Silcon Graphics SGI guys to help with building the Genesis successor. Sega Japan was prideful and upset at Sega USA from turning profit and having popularity, so in a move to put a leash on Sega Usa, Nakayama-san, the pres of Sega japan turned down every single idea Sega USA had. And made them release the 32x, and then the Saturn. Both things Sega USA did not want to do.

4. They had a partner deal with Sony in the works for the 3rd Sega system and Nakayama put a stop to it. Tom k watched as the company he fostered fell apart all because of Sega Japan's wounded pride.

5. Nintendo lost marketshare for 2 reasons.

a. It had already lost 50% to sega. And a lot of that was do to insane 3rd party rules.. Nintendo USA dictated how many games per year a publisher could put out. They dictated when 3rd party games would release and many times put them in spots where they would be competiting with Nintendo's own titles and with very little stock. They also prevented any dev from wroking with them to put their games on a different platform. (this gen's "Parity clause" but to the extreme) . In turn 3rd parties left for Sega and when Sony came out with easy to develope for tech with a great inexpensive system they jumped ship in droves.

b. Catridges. The CD era was in full effect, but Nintendo kept with carts. The price for them was way higher than CDs, and the storage had a very very low hard limit. This prevented companies like Square from making epic rpgs and is one of the reasons why the N64 only has like 1 rpg, and the Playstation 1 rocked the most ever on a system. Also Nintendo64 , like the Saturn was hard to develop for, compared to the 32bit playstation.

Basically Playstation did it's thing and Sega died due to Sega. Nintendo lost due to Nintendo. PS soared due to Easy to dev platform, inexpensive console and software, variety of every 3rd party studio, innovative 3d tech with mass cd-rom based storage, and amazing first party games. PS1 was a powerhouse and my favorite console to this day (and I grew up with both the NES and Genesis before that..neither had what the ps1 had as far as library).

So a generation of nintendo fanboys need to understand Sony didn't kill nintendo's 3rd party... Nintendo did that all by themselves for years. Sega Japan Killed Sega worldwide. End of story.

PlayStation consoles never had the best exclusives (and they probably never will). They benefited from a combination of good exclusives and excellent third party support, which gave them the best overall libraries.

@KBFloYd:

PS3 finished 2nd. Xbox last

I agree, ps1 and ps2 dominated gaming but gamers never had any drought in new games to play (except at launch) although sony have a fair share of greediness like most companies but at least at the end of the day, sony have proven that they wanna keep gaming alive like it used to be

For the record I don't mind Sony winning, they need all the help they can get.

Sony are in it for the money, period. It wouldn't surprise me if most Shareholders are NOT gamers.

That's why MS is still pushing games for the X360? Right? Try to lie better next time.

Oh lol this guy. Not worth replying to.

The PS2 was not that brilliant, if you had all 3 and a decent PC its performance constantly fell behind the competition and the only reason it is so glorified on here is because most of you were 5 at the time. Sorry this argument really annoys me because all it shows it that you couldn't haven't bothered with the other systems in that gen; now if you were to argue about the first Playstation I could agree (despite Nintendo winning on overall quality of what few games they offered).

Sony cares about gamers? Is that why they lie right into our face? Lies.

Because lemmings thought they had the gen on lock pre-reveal (I remember talk of Battlefield and FIFA exclusive, hah) and now that it's backfired spectacularly they're so bitter they can barely function.