Why Cant PS3 Fans Admit the 360 has a better game library? (Proof inside)

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#751 -ArchAngeL-777-
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360 also has more games.  Its been out a year longer and has a lot more shovelware than PS3.  That's basically all your stats prove.  If they both had the same amount of games, then you'd have a point.  Besides, critic scores don't mean a better library.  There are certain series (Halo and Forza among them) that will never get a bad rating no matter how repetitive or unimaginative (or any other knock typically used against lesser hyped titles).

Face it, 360's library hinges on 5 IPs:  Halo, Gears, Fable, Forza, and Kinect games.  That's it.  I have an interest in only one of those four (Forza).  I cant stand the other four.  Both Sony and Nintendo (even with its own overreliance on Mario and Zelda) give me more interesting options than MS.  So No, 360 does not have the better library.

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#752 deactivated-5dd711115e664
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All scores taken from Metacritic. It took me a while to count all these games up but I figured I would actually use cold hard facts on System Wars for once. I used all games above a 75 rating on Metacritic, because games rated 75 or higher are usually more desireable to gamers.

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I will sum up the problem with your logic using an analogy. Every year hollywood and media ramp up and try to get everyone excited about the Oscars. the Oscars celebrates what is considered to be the the best made movies of the year. Yet every year, the exact same stories pop up...why, if these are the best of the best, don't they make more money or be more successful? And the answer is typically that what the movie going audience likes/wants isn't necessarily what the Academy is looking for.

Movie audiences just want to be entertained. Sometimes that means a very well crafted movie, but most of the time it means just killing time laughing at something stupid. People seek out experiences when they go to the movies, not necessarily "art" or examples of movie-making excellence.

The same is true of games. Critics review games based on certain views of "quality" and they play way more games than the average joe. Meanwhile, individuals have their own tastes and interests and expectations on what makes a good gaming experience for them. As such, there is no shortage of people like myself who feel the PS3 library offers way more games that appeal to our tastes/interests than the 360.

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#753 kuraimen
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[QUOTE="Phazevariance"][QUOTE="kuraimen"][QUOTE="Miketheman83"] The PC games the 360 gets are games released THIS GEN and arent on the PS3, they are a huge advantage of owning a 360 over a PS3.

Gosh you're pretty dumb. The PS2/PS1 games the PS3 gets are games that AREN'T on the 360, they are a huge advantage of owning a PS3 over a 360.

No, the ps1/2 games are last generation games. the 360 gets NEW games that it shares with PC. Thats a huge difference. Who wants a ps3 for old @ss games anyways? 360 has the advantage. I'm always amused at how cows use PC as a meatshield when arguing ps3 vs 360 comparisons. They compare ps3 to 360 then throw pc in as a way to try and negate the fact that 360 has games that ps3 doesnt.

Who the hell wants a 360 for Perfect Dark? Yet lems have no problem counting those irrelevant games. The capacity to play ps1 and ps2 games for me was a strong selling point specially considering the libraries of those two systems are outstanding. So stop pretending to know what others want or not Lem, stop nitpicking to make your console look better, at least try to be honest for once.
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#754 brennanhuff
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[QUOTE="Miketheman83"][QUOTE="kuraimen"] Likewise the ps1 and the ps2 have nothing to do with this convo so why can't we count the games that are on the ps3 and those systems again? Lol lems really can only play with selective reasoning to "win". How dishonest to say the least.kuraimen
So you're saying the PS3 needs to use PS2 games to beat the 360 library? You realize that only makes the PS3 look worse right?

The 360 needs PC games to beat the PS3 library in the first place. Again stop being selective otherwise you look like a hypocrite.

That made me lol. Thank you.

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#755 kuraimen
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[QUOTE="kuraimen"][QUOTE="Miketheman83"] The PC games the 360 gets are games released THIS GEN and arent on the PS3, they are a huge advantage of owning a 360 over a PS3.Snugenz

Gosh you're pretty dumb. The PS2/PS1 games the PS3 gets are games that AREN'T on the 360, they are a huge advantage of owning a PS3 over a 360.

The PC can play every one of those PS1 and PS2 games, so...

I'm not arguing against the PC. Indeed it can play all those games, that's why I always say the PC is not even in the competition since it always wins by default.
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#756 Malta_1980
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I'm sorry but for me PS3's games library is much better !!

No proof can decide for me which console is better, its just a matter of personal taste in gaming !!

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[QUOTE="Snugenz"]

[QUOTE="kuraimen"] Gosh you're pretty dumb. The PS2/PS1 games the PS3 gets are games that AREN'T on the 360, they are a huge advantage of owning a PS3 over a 360.kuraimen

The PC can play every one of those PS1 and PS2 games, so...

I'm not arguing against the PC. Indeed it can play all those games, that's why I always say the PC is not even in the competition since it always wins by default.

So then why do you discount 360/PC multiplats if the "PC is not even in the competition"?.

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I initially purchased a 360 at launch, and then sold it a couple years later for a PS3, simply because the PS3 has better games. You can say that the 360 has "higher rated games", but the variety just isn't there. Why would I want to play a yearly reincarnation of Halo and Gears, and lose out on all the great PS3 exclusives? MGS4, Sly, GoW, Ni No Kuni, etc... It's all about variety - something the PS3 excels at, and the 360 has yet to figure out. If you're going to take some random website, and use them as the "all-knowing source of all that is gaming", then I have two suggestions for you: 1.) Stay away from all religion, you easily persuaded nutjob. 2.) Check out Famitsu, who declared that the PS3 has the highest rated games, and the best library. See? I can use a video game website as fact too! You should probably avoid making topics like this, and get to back to playing Halo online - the more time you play, the more you can justify spending money on Xbox live to play online, and to even do simple things such as access Netflix.
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#759 delta3074
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[QUOTE="kuraimen"][QUOTE="Miketheman83"][QUOTE="kuraimen"] Likewise the ps1 and the ps2 have nothing to do with this convo so why can't we count the games that are on the ps3 and those systems again? Lol lems really can only play with selective reasoning to "win". How dishonest to say the least.

So you're saying the PS3 needs to use PS2 games to beat the 360 library? You realize that only makes the PS3 look worse right?

The 360 needs PC games to beat the PS3 library in the first place. Again stop being selective otherwise you look like a hypocrite.

But they are not PC games, they are multiplatform, who made the rule that if a game is on the PC and the 360 that it's a PC game, Also, Big flaw in your argument, The games the 360 shares with the Pc where actually made FOR the 360, Ps1 and Ps2 games where not made for the Ps3, add to that that the vast majority of Ps3's can only play Ps2 games that are re-released on PSN and your argument is completely destroyed, you can count remakes if you like and Ps1 and Ps2 games re-released on PSN but you cannot count BC towards a consoles overall library, it asanine.
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#760 delta3074
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I'm sorry but for me PS3's games library is much better !!

No proof can decide for me which console is better, its just a matter of personal taste in gaming !!

Malta_1980
i agree with this, which console has the highest amount of high scoring games does not equate to which console has the 'best' library because 'best' is subjective and down to ones own personal opinion, Farrari's are awesome cars but i would rather own a Mk2 Escort RS 500, one mans junk is another mans gold.
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#761 clr84651
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Because if someone likes more games on one system more than on others then in their opinion that system has the best games library. So being that the PS3 has tons of good exclusives and the 360 does also one could say either one has the best games library. 

So you can't get proof the 360 or PS3 has the best games library. 

In the first 1.5 years of PS3 vs 360 a xfan would have a good arguement. Since then neither side can have a good arguement. 

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#762 delta3074
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Because if someone likes more games on one system more than on others then in their opinion that system has the best games library. So being that the PS3 has tons of good exclusives and the 360 does also one could say either one has the best games library. 

So you can't get proof the 360 or PS3 has the best games library. 

In the first 1.5 years of PS3 vs 360 a xfan would have a good arguement. Since then neither side can have a good arguement. 

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Because if someone likes more games on one system more than on others then in their opinion that system has the best games library. So being that the PS3 has tons of good exclusives and the 360 does also one could say either one has the best games library. 

So you can't get proof the 360 or PS3 has the best games library. 

In the first 1.5 years of PS3 vs 360 a xfan would have a good arguement. Since then neither side can have a good arguement. 

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You can prove that the 360 has the more critically acclaimed game library, and most people would agree thats a good thing.
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[QUOTE="delta3074"][QUOTE="kuraimen"][QUOTE="Miketheman83"] So you're saying the PS3 needs to use PS2 games to beat the 360 library? You realize that only makes the PS3 look worse right?

The 360 needs PC games to beat the PS3 library in the first place. Again stop being selective otherwise you look like a hypocrite.

But they are not PC games, they are multiplatform, who made the rule that if a game is on the PC and the 360 that it's a PC game, Also, Big flaw in your argument, The games the 360 shares with the Pc where actually made FOR the 360, Ps1 and Ps2 games where not made for the Ps3, add to that that the vast majority of Ps3's can only play Ps2 games that are re-released on PSN and your argument is completely destroyed, you can count remakes if you like and Ps1 and Ps2 games re-released on PSN but you cannot count BC towards a consoles overall library, it asanine.

That's a fvcking technicality. You can play ps1 and ps2 games on the ps3 like you can play PC games on 360. They're multiplat and they HAD to be made for the PS3 considering the PS3 doesn't have BC with the PS2, AKA they run native. Again you guys are nitpicking just because you that in the real world it's true the ps3 has a bigger and better library. Pathetic that you guys have to resort to all these sort of technicalities to ignore some games people can play on the PS3. Again be honest.
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#765 kuraimen
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[QUOTE="kuraimen"][QUOTE="Snugenz"]

The PC can play every one of those PS1 and PS2 games, so...

Snugenz

I'm not arguing against the PC. Indeed it can play all those games, that's why I always say the PC is not even in the competition since it always wins by default.

So then why do you discount 360/PC multiplats if the "PC is not even in the competition"?.

I'm not discounting them, I'm saying that if lems want to count them then we should count every game that can be played on the systems since in real life all those count.
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[QUOTE="kuraimen"][QUOTE="delta3074"][QUOTE="kuraimen"] The 360 needs PC games to beat the PS3 library in the first place. Again stop being selective otherwise you look like a hypocrite.

But they are not PC games, they are multiplatform, who made the rule that if a game is on the PC and the 360 that it's a PC game, Also, Big flaw in your argument, The games the 360 shares with the Pc where actually made FOR the 360, Ps1 and Ps2 games where not made for the Ps3, add to that that the vast majority of Ps3's can only play Ps2 games that are re-released on PSN and your argument is completely destroyed, you can count remakes if you like and Ps1 and Ps2 games re-released on PSN but you cannot count BC towards a consoles overall library, it asanine.

That's a fvcking technicality. You can play ps1 and ps2 games on the ps3 like you can play PC games on 360. They're multiplat and they HAD to be made for the PS3 considering the PS3 doesn't have BC with the PS2, AKA they run native. Again you guys are nitpicking just because you that in the real world it's true the ps3 has a bigger and better library. Pathetic that you guys have to resort to all these sort of technicalities to ignore some games people can play on the PS3. Again be honest.

but you can't play PC games on the 360 a,you can play games that the Pc shares with the 360, and like i said the vast majority of Ps3's cannot play Ps2 games BC. Also, why is a game thats released on Both the 360 and the PC a PC game, they are not, they are multiplatform games released on more than one system, or are you forgetting that Alan wake, Mass effect and gears where released on the 360 first, does that make them 360 games? no, it makes them multiplatform games, throw your toys out of the Pram all you want, when we compare a sytems library we look at games that are actually released FOR the system, not BC. You cows are always trying to change the rules to fit your own aganda.
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#767 delta3074
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[QUOTE="Snugenz"]

[QUOTE="kuraimen"] I'm not arguing against the PC. Indeed it can play all those games, that's why I always say the PC is not even in the competition since it always wins by default.kuraimen

So then why do you discount 360/PC multiplats if the "PC is not even in the competition"?.

I'm not discounting them, I'm saying that if lems want to count them then we should count every game that can be played on the systems since in real life all those count.

no, there a huge difference, you are talking Backwards compatibility, the titles the PC and 360 share are actually released FOR the 360, you see thats where you are going wrong, PC/360 games are not just 'games you can play on the system' they are games that are actually released FOR that system, Ps1 and Ps2 games where not actually released FOR the Ps3 where they?
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[QUOTE="kuraimen"][QUOTE="delta3074"]But they are not PC games, they are multiplatform, who made the rule that if a game is on the PC and the 360 that it's a PC game, Also, Big flaw in your argument, The games the 360 shares with the Pc where actually made FOR the 360, Ps1 and Ps2 games where not made for the Ps3, add to that that the vast majority of Ps3's can only play Ps2 games that are re-released on PSN and your argument is completely destroyed, you can count remakes if you like and Ps1 and Ps2 games re-released on PSN but you cannot count BC towards a consoles overall library, it asanine.delta3074
That's a fvcking technicality. You can play ps1 and ps2 games on the ps3 like you can play PC games on 360. They're multiplat and they HAD to be made for the PS3 considering the PS3 doesn't have BC with the PS2, AKA they run native. Again you guys are nitpicking just because you that in the real world it's true the ps3 has a bigger and better library. Pathetic that you guys have to resort to all these sort of technicalities to ignore some games people can play on the PS3. Again be honest.

but you can't play PC games on the 360 a,you can play games that the Pc shares with the 360, and like i said the vast majority of Ps3's cannot play Ps2 games BC. Also, why is a game thats released on Both the 360 and the PC a PC game, they are not, they are multiplatform games released on more than one system, or are you forgetting that Alan wake, Mass effect and gears where released on the 360 first, does that make them 360 games? no, it makes them multiplatform games, throw your toys out of the Pram all you want, when we compare a sytems library we look at games that are actually released FOR the system, not BC. You cows are always trying to change the rules to fit your own aganda.

Yeah I'm counting ps2 games on pan not all ps2 games. But I can count ALL ps1 games since all ps3s can play it which is a plus for the ps3 and that's all that matters. Then why is a ps1 game that I can play on my ps3 a ps1 game? :|. I can play it there don't I? So it's also a ps3 game. You can't have it both ways with trivialities like this just to ignore some games I can play on my ps3.
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#769 kuraimen
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[QUOTE="kuraimen"][QUOTE="Snugenz"]

So then why do you discount 360/PC multiplats if the "PC is not even in the competition"?.

delta3074
I'm not discounting them, I'm saying that if lems want to count them then we should count every game that can be played on the systems since in real life all those count.

no, there a huge difference, you are talking Backwards compatibility, the titles the PC and 360 share are actually released FOR the 360, you see thats where you are going wrong, PC/360 games are not just 'games you can play on the system' they are games that are actually released FOR that system, Ps1 and Ps2 games where not actually released FOR the Ps3 where they?

Again nitpicking trivialities just to discount some ps3 games. And you claim cows change the rules right? Well the meta game here which are the official rules if I believe DON'T COUNT MULTIPLATS. So why are lems changing the rules or is it alright only when they change them? If we count only exclusives the ps3 wins, if we count ALL games then the ps3 wins. The only way the 360 can win is by not following the rules and nitpicking which games count.
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[QUOTE="kuraimen"][QUOTE="delta3074"][QUOTE="kuraimen"] I'm not discounting them, I'm saying that if lems want to count them then we should count every game that can be played on the systems since in real life all those count.

no, there a huge difference, you are talking Backwards compatibility, the titles the PC and 360 share are actually released FOR the 360, you see thats where you are going wrong, PC/360 games are not just 'games you can play on the system' they are games that are actually released FOR that system, Ps1 and Ps2 games where not actually released FOR the Ps3 where they?

Again nitpicking trivialities just to discount some ps3 games. And you claim cows change the rules right? Well the meta game here which are the official rules if I believe DON'T COUNT MULTIPLATS. So why are lems changing the rules or is it alright only when they change them? If we count only exclusives the ps3 wins, if we count ALL games then the ps3 wins. The only way the 360 can win is by not following the rules and nitpicking which games count.

You think that's nitpicking are you kidding me
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[QUOTE="delta3074"][QUOTE="kuraimen"] I'm not discounting them, I'm saying that if lems want to count them then we should count every game that can be played on the systems since in real life all those count.kuraimen
no, there a huge difference, you are talking Backwards compatibility, the titles the PC and 360 share are actually released FOR the 360, you see thats where you are going wrong, PC/360 games are not just 'games you can play on the system' they are games that are actually released FOR that system, Ps1 and Ps2 games where not actually released FOR the Ps3 where they?

Again nitpicking trivialities just to discount some ps3 games. And you claim cows change the rules right? Well the meta game here which are the official rules if I believe DON'T COUNT MULTIPLATS. So why are lems changing the rules or is it alright only when they change them? If we count only exclusives the ps3 wins, if we count ALL games then the ps3 wins. The only way the 360 can win is by not following the rules and nitpicking which games count.

Hahaha you eastern gamers make me laugh so hard. Nobody gives a shlt about your anime infetsed eastern garbage games.

 

Western Games is where it's at and the best Western Games on console can be found on XBOX 360 and soon the neXtBOX. eastern games can go suck it.....Oh wait, they already do!

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#772 delta3074
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[QUOTE="kuraimen"][QUOTE="delta3074"][QUOTE="kuraimen"] I'm not discounting them, I'm saying that if lems want to count them then we should count every game that can be played on the systems since in real life all those count.

no, there a huge difference, you are talking Backwards compatibility, the titles the PC and 360 share are actually released FOR the 360, you see thats where you are going wrong, PC/360 games are not just 'games you can play on the system' they are games that are actually released FOR that system, Ps1 and Ps2 games where not actually released FOR the Ps3 where they?

Again nitpicking trivialities just to discount some ps3 games. And you claim cows change the rules right? Well the meta game here which are the official rules if I believe DON'T COUNT MULTIPLATS. So why are lems changing the rules or is it alright only when they change them? If we count only exclusives the ps3 wins, if we count ALL games then the ps3 wins. The only way the 360 can win is by not following the rules and nitpicking which games count.

how is that nitpicking? it's quite simple, let me explain it to you Games released for a system=Count Games not released for that system= don't count when comparing a 2 systems library we count all the games released FOR that system on both sides and Pc/360 games may be multiplat but they are still games Released FOR the 360, like i sadi, Any games Ps1 or Ps2 games released on PSN count because they where released FOR the Ps3. Also, this isn't a metagame thread ,Metagame rules don't apply because the orginal op is using Metacritic, nice try but not good enough sunshine. Heres another way of lloking at it. Every game listed for the Ps3 on MC counts Every game listed for the 360 on MC counts Are Ps1 and Ps2 BC games on the list of games released for the Ps3?
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#773 kuraimen
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[QUOTE="kuraimen"][QUOTE="delta3074"]no, there a huge difference, you are talking Backwards compatibility, the titles the PC and 360 share are actually released FOR the 360, you see thats where you are going wrong, PC/360 games are not just 'games you can play on the system' they are games that are actually released FOR that system, Ps1 and Ps2 games where not actually released FOR the Ps3 where they?onewiththegame
Again nitpicking trivialities just to discount some ps3 games. And you claim cows change the rules right? Well the meta game here which are the official rules if I believe DON'T COUNT MULTIPLATS. So why are lems changing the rules or is it alright only when they change them? If we count only exclusives the ps3 wins, if we count ALL games then the ps3 wins. The only way the 360 can win is by not following the rules and nitpicking which games count.

You think that's nitpicking are you kidding me

Why? Are you telling me that me playing ff7 on my ps3 like I'm doing these days is not a plus for ps3 owners? Considering ff7 is one of the best sold games on psn. What makes say perfect dark on 360 more valid to count than a game like ff7? Yes that's nitpicking lems pretend to decide which games should count to claim their system wins when in the real world everything counts so deal with it.
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[QUOTE="kuraimen"][QUOTE="delta3074"]no, there a huge difference, you are talking Backwards compatibility, the titles the PC and 360 share are actually released FOR the 360, you see thats where you are going wrong, PC/360 games are not just 'games you can play on the system' they are games that are actually released FOR that system, Ps1 and Ps2 games where not actually released FOR the Ps3 where they?delta3074
Again nitpicking trivialities just to discount some ps3 games. And you claim cows change the rules right? Well the meta game here which are the official rules if I believe DON'T COUNT MULTIPLATS. So why are lems changing the rules or is it alright only when they change them? If we count only exclusives the ps3 wins, if we count ALL games then the ps3 wins. The only way the 360 can win is by not following the rules and nitpicking which games count.

how is that nitpicking? it's quite simple, let me explain it to you Games released for a system=Count Games not released for that system= don't count when comparing a 2 systems library we count all the games released FOR that system on both sides and Pc/360 games may be multiplat but they are still games Released FOR the 360, like i sadi, Any games Ps1 or Ps2 games released on PSN count because they where released FOR the Ps3. Also, this isn't a metagame thread ,Metagame rules don't apply because the orginal op is using Metacritic, nice try but not good enough sunshine. Heres another way of lloking at it. Every game listed for the Ps3 on MC counts Every game listed for the 360 on MC counts Are Ps1 and Ps2 BC games on the list of games released for the Ps3?

Answer me this: Why should I follow your rules for counting games when they ignore a lot of games I play on my ps3? Give me a good reason.

 

You claim cows don't follow the rules and then you don't follow the rules yourself? Charming... :roll:

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[QUOTE="delta3074"][QUOTE="kuraimen"] Again nitpicking trivialities just to discount some ps3 games. And you claim cows change the rules right? Well the meta game here which are the official rules if I believe DON'T COUNT MULTIPLATS. So why are lems changing the rules or is it alright only when they change them? If we count only exclusives the ps3 wins, if we count ALL games then the ps3 wins. The only way the 360 can win is by not following the rules and nitpicking which games count.kuraimen

how is that nitpicking? it's quite simple, let me explain it to you Games released for a system=Count Games not released for that system= don't count when comparing a 2 systems library we count all the games released FOR that system on both sides and Pc/360 games may be multiplat but they are still games Released FOR the 360, like i sadi, Any games Ps1 or Ps2 games released on PSN count because they where released FOR the Ps3. Also, this isn't a metagame thread ,Metagame rules don't apply because the orginal op is using Metacritic, nice try but not good enough sunshine. Heres another way of lloking at it. Every game listed for the Ps3 on MC counts Every game listed for the 360 on MC counts Are Ps1 and Ps2 BC games on the list of games released for the Ps3?

Answer me this: Why should I follow your rules for counting games when they ignore a lot of games I play on my ps3? Give me a good reason.

 

You claim cows don't follow the rules and then you don't follow the rules yourself? Charming... :roll:

WE ARE COMPARING GAMES RELEASED FOR 360 AND PS3. NO PS1 our PS2 games were released for the PS3, except HD collections, which were counted.
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[QUOTE="kuraimen"]

[QUOTE="delta3074"]how is that nitpicking? it's quite simple, let me explain it to you Games released for a system=Count Games not released for that system= don't count when comparing a 2 systems library we count all the games released FOR that system on both sides and Pc/360 games may be multiplat but they are still games Released FOR the 360, like i sadi, Any games Ps1 or Ps2 games released on PSN count because they where released FOR the Ps3. Also, this isn't a metagame thread ,Metagame rules don't apply because the orginal op is using Metacritic, nice try but not good enough sunshine. Heres another way of lloking at it. Every game listed for the Ps3 on MC counts Every game listed for the 360 on MC counts Are Ps1 and Ps2 BC games on the list of games released for the Ps3?Miketheman83

Answer me this: Why should I follow your rules for counting games when they ignore a lot of games I play on my ps3? Give me a good reason.

 

You claim cows don't follow the rules and then you don't follow the rules yourself? Charming... :roll:

WE ARE COMPARING GAMES RELEASED FOR 360 AND PS3. NO PS1 our PS2 games were released for the PS3, except HD collections, which were counted.

Sorry but that's not what the title of this thread says. It says "library" which includes ALL games that can be played on a system. So your title is a lie as it is written. You should specify those technicalities if you want to win by nitpicking otherwise don't complain when some call your errors out.
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#778 the_bi99man
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[QUOTE="kuraimen"][QUOTE="Miketheman83"] The PC games the 360 gets are games released THIS GEN and arent on the PS3, they are a huge advantage of owning a 360 over a PS3.Snugenz

Gosh you're pretty dumb. The PS2/PS1 games the PS3 gets are games that AREN'T on the 360, they are a huge advantage of owning a PS3 over a 360.

The PC can play every one of those PS1 and PS2 games, so...

Boom. Was playing MGS3 and Shadow of the Colossus on my laptop last week.

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#780 delta3074
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[QUOTE="delta3074"][QUOTE="kuraimen"] Again nitpicking trivialities just to discount some ps3 games. And you claim cows change the rules right? Well the meta game here which are the official rules if I believe DON'T COUNT MULTIPLATS. So why are lems changing the rules or is it alright only when they change them? If we count only exclusives the ps3 wins, if we count ALL games then the ps3 wins. The only way the 360 can win is by not following the rules and nitpicking which games count.kuraimen

how is that nitpicking? it's quite simple, let me explain it to you Games released for a system=Count Games not released for that system= don't count when comparing a 2 systems library we count all the games released FOR that system on both sides and Pc/360 games may be multiplat but they are still games Released FOR the 360, like i sadi, Any games Ps1 or Ps2 games released on PSN count because they where released FOR the Ps3. Also, this isn't a metagame thread ,Metagame rules don't apply because the orginal op is using Metacritic, nice try but not good enough sunshine. Heres another way of lloking at it. Every game listed for the Ps3 on MC counts Every game listed for the 360 on MC counts Are Ps1 and Ps2 BC games on the list of games released for the Ps3?

Answer me this: Why should I follow your rules for counting games when they ignore a lot of games I play on my ps3? Give me a good reason.

 

You claim cows don't follow the rules and then you don't follow the rules yourself? Charming... :roll:

Because when we compare librarys we only use games that are released FOR that system not every game that can be played on that system,it's quite simple and logical. Also, just becaus you keep saying i am nitpicking doesn't make it so, i think theres a pretty big difference between a game thats actually relased FOR a system and games that are not released FOR a system.
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#781 delta3074
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[QUOTE="Miketheman83"][QUOTE="kuraimen"] Answer me this: Why should I follow your rules for counting games when they ignore a lot of games I play on my ps3? Give me a good reason.

 

You claim cows don't follow the rules and then you don't follow the rules yourself? Charming... :roll:

kuraimen
WE ARE COMPARING GAMES RELEASED FOR 360 AND PS3. NO PS1 our PS2 games were released for the PS3, except HD collections, which were counted.

Sorry but that's not what the title of this thread says. It says "library" which includes ALL games that can be played on a system. So your title is a lie as it is written. You should specify those technicalities if you want to win by nitpicking otherwise don't complain when some call your errors out.

but Ps1 and Ps2 games are not part of the Ps3's library, they are part of the Ps1 and Ps2 librarys, did you fall over and knock your head? Only games released for that system are part of that systems library, i swear logic and common sense have gone out the window round here.
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#782 kuraimen
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[QUOTE="kuraimen"]

[QUOTE="delta3074"]how is that nitpicking? it's quite simple, let me explain it to you Games released for a system=Count Games not released for that system= don't count when comparing a 2 systems library we count all the games released FOR that system on both sides and Pc/360 games may be multiplat but they are still games Released FOR the 360, like i sadi, Any games Ps1 or Ps2 games released on PSN count because they where released FOR the Ps3. Also, this isn't a metagame thread ,Metagame rules don't apply because the orginal op is using Metacritic, nice try but not good enough sunshine. Heres another way of lloking at it. Every game listed for the Ps3 on MC counts Every game listed for the 360 on MC counts Are Ps1 and Ps2 BC games on the list of games released for the Ps3?delta3074

Answer me this: Why should I follow your rules for counting games when they ignore a lot of games I play on my ps3? Give me a good reason.

 

You claim cows don't follow the rules and then you don't follow the rules yourself? Charming... :roll:

Because when we compare librarys we only use games that are released FOR that system not every game that can be played on that system,it's quite simple and logical. Also, just becaus you keep saying i am nitpicking doesn't make it so, i think theres a pretty big difference between a game thats actually relased FOR a system and games that are not released FOR a system.

We? Who is we? The ones who started counting this way were lems. Why should I follow lems rules and not the meta game or real life rules? I'm sorry lems but your rules suck and are not representative of reality or even of SW. What is this big difference you're talking about. Do I enjoy ff7 less because it was released on ps1? Explain to me what difference it makes to me as a gamer please.
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#783 kuraimen
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[QUOTE="delta3074"][QUOTE="kuraimen"][QUOTE="Miketheman83"] WE ARE COMPARING GAMES RELEASED FOR 360 AND PS3. NO PS1 our PS2 games were released for the PS3, except HD collections, which were counted.

Sorry but that's not what the title of this thread says. It says "library" which includes ALL games that can be played on a system. So your title is a lie as it is written. You should specify those technicalities if you want to win by nitpicking otherwise don't complain when some call your errors out.

but Ps1 and Ps2 games are not part of the Ps3's library, they are part of the Ps1 and Ps2 librarys, did you fall over and knock your head? Only games released for that system are part of that systems library, i swear logic and common sense have gone out the window round here.

Yes they're part of the ps3 library. I can buy them on psn and play them on my ps3.
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meh scores cbb
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#786 Miketheman83
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[QUOTE="kuraimen"][QUOTE="delta3074"][QUOTE="kuraimen"] Sorry but that's not what the title of this thread says. It says "library" which includes ALL games that can be played on a system. So your title is a lie as it is written. You should specify those technicalities if you want to win by nitpicking otherwise don't complain when some call your errors out.

but Ps1 and Ps2 games are not part of the Ps3's library, they are part of the Ps1 and Ps2 librarys, did you fall over and knock your head? Only games released for that system are part of that systems library, i swear logic and common sense have gone out the window round here.

Yes they're part of the ps3 library. I can buy them on psn and play them on my ps3.

You can't compare last gen games the games made this gen though. it's completely irrational.
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#787 kuraimen
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[QUOTE="Miketheman83"][QUOTE="kuraimen"][QUOTE="delta3074"]but Ps1 and Ps2 games are not part of the Ps3's library, they are part of the Ps1 and Ps2 librarys, did you fall over and knock your head? Only games released for that system are part of that systems library, i swear logic and common sense have gone out the window round here.

Yes they're part of the ps3 library. I can buy them on psn and play them on my ps3.

You can't compare last gen games the games made this gen though. it's completely irrational.

Why? Explain to me where that rule is. So people suddenly can't enjoy last gen games? Ff7 is still considered one of the best games ever. And lems are counting 8 year old games. What makes those count and not others? Oh lems nitpicking is all you have and you don't even have real arguments for it, the story of this gen.
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#788 delta3074
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[QUOTE="kuraimen"][QUOTE="delta3074"][QUOTE="kuraimen"] Sorry but that's not what the title of this thread says. It says "library" which includes ALL games that can be played on a system. So your title is a lie as it is written. You should specify those technicalities if you want to win by nitpicking otherwise don't complain when some call your errors out.

but Ps1 and Ps2 games are not part of the Ps3's library, they are part of the Ps1 and Ps2 librarys, did you fall over and knock your head? Only games released for that system are part of that systems library, i swear logic and common sense have gone out the window round here.

Yes they're part of the ps3 library. I can buy them on psn and play them on my ps3.

This thread i about MC scores, we are comparing Librarys according to MC scores, let me end this argument right now, games Scored for the Ps3 count, games Scored for the 360 count, games not scored for either system don't count, the fact that we are comparing librarys by score means that you most certainly CANNOT use Ps1 and Ps2 games because they where not Scored for the Ps3, it's as simple as that really Because we are not comparing total number of games we are comparing Scores, which console HAS the most high rated games not which console can PLAY the most high rated games.
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#789 Eddie-Vedder
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[QUOTE="Miketheman83"][QUOTE="kuraimen"][QUOTE="delta3074"]but Ps1 and Ps2 games are not part of the Ps3's library, they are part of the Ps1 and Ps2 librarys, did you fall over and knock your head? Only games released for that system are part of that systems library, i swear logic and common sense have gone out the window round here.

Yes they're part of the ps3 library. I can buy them on psn and play them on my ps3.

You can't compare last gen games the games made this gen though. it's completely irrational.

You can't compare 5$ arcade games to 60$ retail games or to DLC map packs too expansions, different categories, different standards, differences scales. That's why you're not supposed to compare libraries lumping everything together and you're supposed to do retail vs retail, arcade vs arcade. Except lems lost this way so they tried changes the rules. We started with only retail exclusives vs retail exclusives, exact same category, exact same standards and scale, lems lost they asked to add multiplats. We started doing retail games, lems lost they changed the rules, now they wanted to do library add everything playable, cows showed them you'd have to count PS1 and PS2 titles, they lost, they try to change the rules again.
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#790 kuraimen
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[QUOTE="delta3074"][QUOTE="kuraimen"][QUOTE="delta3074"]but Ps1 and Ps2 games are not part of the Ps3's library, they are part of the Ps1 and Ps2 librarys, did you fall over and knock your head? Only games released for that system are part of that systems library, i swear logic and common sense have gone out the window round here.

Yes they're part of the ps3 library. I can buy them on psn and play them on my ps3.

This thread i about MC scores, we are comparing Librarys according to MC scores, let me end this argument right now, games Scored for the Ps3 count, games Scored for the 360 count, games not scored for either system don't count, the fact that we are comparing librarys by score means that you most certainly CANNOT use Ps1 and Ps2 games because they where not Scored for the Ps3, it's as simple as that really Because we are not comparing total number of games we are comparing Scores, which console has the most high rated games.

So in the end we realize that lems would rather play with numbers than with actual games. I rest my case.
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#791 kuraimen
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[QUOTE="Eddie-Vedder"][QUOTE="Miketheman83"][QUOTE="kuraimen"] Yes they're part of the ps3 library. I can buy them on psn and play them on my ps3.

You can't compare last gen games the games made this gen though. it's completely irrational.

You can't compare 5$ arcade games to 60$ retail games or to DLC map packs too expansions, different categories, different standards, differences scales. That's why you're not supposed to compare libraries lumping everything together and you're supposed to do retail vs retail, arcade vs arcade. Except lems lost this way so they tried changes the rules. We started with only retail exclusives vs retail exclusives, exact same category, exact same standards and scale, lems lost they asked to add multiplats. We started doing retail games, lems lost they changed the rules, now they wanted to do library add everything playable, cows showed them you'd have to count PS1 and PS2 titles, they lost, they try to change the rules again.

Exactly! Lems and their selective reasoning never cease to amaze me. Worst thing is that they truly believe it. You either count everything in the real world or you stick to the rules. You can't have it both ways lems. That's nitpicking.
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#792 delta3074
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[QUOTE="delta3074"][QUOTE="kuraimen"] Answer me this: Why should I follow your rules for counting games when they ignore a lot of games I play on my ps3? Give me a good reason.

 

You claim cows don't follow the rules and then you don't follow the rules yourself? Charming... :roll:

kuraimen
Because when we compare librarys we only use games that are released FOR that system not every game that can be played on that system,it's quite simple and logical. Also, just becaus you keep saying i am nitpicking doesn't make it so, i think theres a pretty big difference between a game thats actually relased FOR a system and games that are not released FOR a system.

Explain to me what difference it makes to me as a gamer please.

we are comparing librarys OBJECTIVELY using scores, not subjectively using personal opinion, what difference it makes to you as a gamer is irelevent, as far as scores go the the 360 has the better library, if you want to be subjective then it's niether because everyone has a different opinion of what is better, from a subjective point of view you are not wrong, it's your personal preference and i am not about to tell somebody that there personal preference is wrong but from an OBJECTIVE point of view comparing scores you couldn't be more wrong.
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#793 delta3074
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[QUOTE="kuraimen"][QUOTE="delta3074"][QUOTE="kuraimen"] Yes they're part of the ps3 library. I can buy them on psn and play them on my ps3.

This thread i about MC scores, we are comparing Librarys according to MC scores, let me end this argument right now, games Scored for the Ps3 count, games Scored for the 360 count, games not scored for either system don't count, the fact that we are comparing librarys by score means that you most certainly CANNOT use Ps1 and Ps2 games because they where not Scored for the Ps3, it's as simple as that really Because we are not comparing total number of games we are comparing Scores, which console has the most high rated games.

So in the end we realize that lems would rather play with numbers than with actual games. I rest my case.

i was talking in context to the thread, it's not my fault you cannot stay within the context of this thread, thats your issue not mine,lol
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[QUOTE="Eddie-Vedder"][QUOTE="Miketheman83"] You can't compare last gen games the games made this gen though. it's completely irrational.kuraimen
You can't compare 5$ arcade games to 60$ retail games or to DLC map packs too expansions, different categories, different standards, differences scales. That's why you're not supposed to compare libraries lumping everything together and you're supposed to do retail vs retail, arcade vs arcade. Except lems lost this way so they tried changes the rules. We started with only retail exclusives vs retail exclusives, exact same category, exact same standards and scale, lems lost they asked to add multiplats. We started doing retail games, lems lost they changed the rules, now they wanted to do library add everything playable, cows showed them you'd have to count PS1 and PS2 titles, they lost, they try to change the rules again.

Exactly! Lems and their selective reasoning never cease to amaze me. Worst thing is that they truly believe it. You either count everything in the real world or you stick to the rules. You can't have it both ways lems. That's nitpicking.

You realise Western Gamers just laugh at you? We HATE your anime infested pedophile garbage, there isn't a thing in the world some eastern gamer like you could say to make the far superior Western Gamer feel bad. Instead we blow coffee out our noses laughing at the junk you think is worthwhile.

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#795 delta3074
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[QUOTE="Eddie-Vedder"][QUOTE="Miketheman83"][QUOTE="kuraimen"] Yes they're part of the ps3 library. I can buy them on psn and play them on my ps3.

You can't compare last gen games the games made this gen though. it's completely irrational.

You can't compare 5$ arcade games to 60$ retail games or to DLC map packs too expansions, different categories, different standards, differences scales. That's why you're not supposed to compare libraries lumping everything together and you're supposed to do retail vs retail, arcade vs arcade. Except lems lost this way so they tried changes the rules. We started with only retail exclusives vs retail exclusives, exact same category, exact same standards and scale, lems lost they asked to add multiplats. We started doing retail games, lems lost they changed the rules, now they wanted to do library add everything playable, cows showed them you'd have to count PS1 and PS2 titles, they lost, they try to change the rules again.

so you can't compare the journey to full price retail titles then? good to know
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now they wanted to do library add everything playable,. Eddie-Vedder
do you read? did i say count everthing that was playable? no, i clearly stated everything thats released FOR that system, and so has every other 'lem' on this board,reading comprehension FTW
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#797 Eddie-Vedder
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[QUOTE="delta3074"][QUOTE="Eddie-Vedder"][QUOTE="Miketheman83"] You can't compare last gen games the games made this gen though. it's completely irrational.

You can't compare 5$ arcade games to 60$ retail games or to DLC map packs too expansions, different categories, different standards, differences scales. That's why you're not supposed to compare libraries lumping everything together and you're supposed to do retail vs retail, arcade vs arcade. Except lems lost this way so they tried changes the rules. We started with only retail exclusives vs retail exclusives, exact same category, exact same standards and scale, lems lost they asked to add multiplats. We started doing retail games, lems lost they changed the rules, now they wanted to do library add everything playable, cows showed them you'd have to count PS1 and PS2 titles, they lost, they try to change the rules again.

so you can't compare the journey to full price retail titles then? good to know

It's not opinion, it's fact, low priced titles are reviewed with different standards, it doesn't mean they can't be amazing pieces of content, it just means noone expects a 10$ game to have 12hours SP and a content packed online mode with co op and a bunch of features amazing graphics etc. If that game costs 60$ though the standards are different, it has different expectations, the scale is different. Doesn't mean, Journey, or Bastion aren't AMAZING piece of content, it means they are reviewed on different scales and standards, in different categories and should be compared to games int he same category. There a quite a few AAA 5$ titles out there, puzzle games, tetris, Tower defense titles. For 5$ they are considered AAA because they have great value and polish, but to say having 10 of those 5$ AAA arcade games is better then having 9 AAA retail games is moronic. If you just play the numbers game it would seem the library with the 10 AAA's is better, but EVERYONE would rather have the 9 AAA retail games. Either make specific comparisons with categories of games that stand up to the same standards and scales or you have to accept PS1 and PS2 titles also count, imo a lot more then counting a map pack or a 5$ arcade game.
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#798 delta3074
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Either make specific comparisons with categories of games that stand up to the same standards and scales or you have to accept PS1 and PS2 titles also count, imo a lot more then counting a map pack or a 5$ arcade game. Eddie-Vedder
Stupid logic, if i want to count games actually Scored FOR the 360 i have to count games that are NOT Scored for the Ps3 when we are talking about scores, even if you did count Ps1 and Ps2 games you can't put them in the AA plus category because they have no score as far as the Ps3 concerned and this thread is based on games that are scored for there respective system.
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So lems stil trying to dismiss games for Sony. Typical fanboy, oh well, gigawatt of SDC is rolling through in around 9 hours. Let them live in last gen, Sony is the future. #truth Live, Learn and Love. Thank you Sony.
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[QUOTE="delta3074"][QUOTE="kuraimen"] Yes they're part of the ps3 library. I can buy them on psn and play them on my ps3.kuraimen
This thread i about MC scores, we are comparing Librarys according to MC scores, let me end this argument right now, games Scored for the Ps3 count, games Scored for the 360 count, games not scored for either system don't count, the fact that we are comparing librarys by score means that you most certainly CANNOT use Ps1 and Ps2 games because they where not Scored for the Ps3, it's as simple as that really Because we are not comparing total number of games we are comparing Scores, which console has the most high rated games.

So in the end we realize that lems would rather play with numbers than with actual games. I rest my case.

but you're the one desperately trying to include PS1/2 games to the PS3 list just to bump up the numbers :| something i recall cows doing at the start of this generation because the PS3 didn't have enough games on its own i might add.