Why Cant PS3 Fans Admit the 360 has a better game library? (Proof inside)

[QUOTE="Eddie-Vedder"]

Because according to Metacritic the PS3 has more high scoring retail games, more exclusives, more award winning games, more GOTY titles, more Graphics Kings, more variety in genres, more new IP's.

 

And plus on top of that ownage you must not remember the PS3 can play all PS1 games and some units play all PS2 games. OVERKILL. Lems aren't very good at facing facts though, that's why they like spinning the truth and playign with random numbers.

Miketheman83

I am an Xbox fanboy even....but I have to say outside of Halo .....what does Xbox really bring to the exclusive table over PS3? i would say we have a stronger total gamebase (mainly from the headstart on launch issue)....but I would say the PS3 strong exclsusives like Metal Gear, Uncharted...the Show.....The Last of Us...etc......coupled with the fact that they had on major hardware failure issue (Red Ring) makes it a pretty close race. If I wasn't such a Live fan and major fan of the achievement (and just gamed for the fun of th games)....and I was going to buy a machine today I would say the PS3 would be very attractive to me.

[QUOTE="kuraimen"][QUOTE="onewiththegame"] You think that's nitpicking are you kidding mepercuvius2

Hahahaha you even admit to playing anime infested pedophile garbage. Hahaha sure must suck to be an eastern gamer. Bring on those Western Games.

All fanboys ignore facts.  It's one of the defining characteristics of a fanboy.

Nintendo Fanboy:  "Graphics don't matter, controls don't need to be accurate.  Mario!!!"

MS Fanboy:  "It's better if you pay for it, even if it isn't better and is often worse."

Sony Fanboy:  "Uncharted 3 is a great game.  So is KZ 3."

[QUOTE="kuraimen"][QUOTE="delta3074"]This thread i about MC scores, we are comparing Librarys according to MC scores, let me end this argument right now, games Scored for the Ps3 count, games Scored for the 360 count, games not scored for either system don't count, the fact that we are comparing librarys by score means that you most certainly CANNOT use Ps1 and Ps2 games because they where not Scored for the Ps3, it's as simple as that really Because we are not comparing total number of games we are comparing Scores, which console has the most high rated games.marklarmer

[QUOTE="marklarmer"]

[QUOTE="kuraimen"] So in the end we realize that lems would rather play with numbers than with actual games. I rest my case.kuraimen

Dude all your rhetoric and spinning of facts means nothing. The 360 has more high scoring games than the PS3 and thats all there is to it. Nothing you are going to say is going to change that. Its the truth, deal with it.Miketheman83

[QUOTE="Miketheman83"]Dude all your rhetoric and spinning of facts means nothing. The 360 has more high scoring games than the PS3 and thats all there is to it. Nothing you are going to say is going to change that. Its the truth, deal with it.kuraimen

How come you're here posting EVERY SINGLE TIME I COME HERE? Got no games to play? Sucks to only have an eastern console doesn't it?

[QUOTE="marklarmer"]

[QUOTE="kuraimen"] So in the end we realize that lems would rather play with numbers than with actual games. I rest my case.kuraimen

Also i like how you claimed "because in the metagame the PS3 wins as well as in the real world..." and then immediately proceeded to lecture someone else on the meanings of subjective and objective.

Funnily enough the random rules cows like you don't seem to like, just so happen to be the ones which don't exclude 360 gamesmarklarmer

Also i like how you claimed "because in the metagame the PS3 wins as well as in the real world..." and then immediately proceeded to lecture someone else on the meanings of subjective and objective.marklarmer

I'm not claiming the metagame is subjective but the metagame has rules. If we follow those rules the PS3 wins. I'm not claiming scores are subjective but in the real world games have scores and if we count ALL games that are valid in the real world the PS3 wins.

Stop trying to put words in my mouth. I'm not the one arguing about objectivity and I'm not the one trying to exclude games. Focus pal.

[QUOTE="marklarmer"]Funnily enough the random rules cows like you don't seem to like, just so happen to be the ones which don't exclude 360 gameskuraimen

Also i like how you claimed "because in the metagame the PS3 wins as well as in the real world..." and then immediately proceeded to lecture someone else on the meanings of subjective and objective.marklarmer

I'm not claiming the metagame is subjective but the metagame has rules. If we follow those rules the PS3 wins. I'm not claiming scores are subjective but in the real world games have scores and if we count ALL games that are valid in the real world the PS3 wins.

Stop trying to put words in my mouth. I'm not the one arguing about objectivity and I'm not the one trying to exclude games. Focus pal.

I think  you'll find in the "real world" people don't buy a new console because they're eager play games from a previous generation on it :|

All fanboys ignore facts.  It's one of the defining characteristics of a fanboy.

 

Nintendo Fanboy:  "Graphics don't matter, controls don't need to be accurate.  Mario!!!"

MS Fanboy:  "It's better if you pay for it, even if it isn't better and is often worse."

Sony Fanboy:  "Uncharted 3 is a great game.  So is KZ 3."

Pug-Nasty

[QUOTE="kuraimen"]

[QUOTE="marklarmer"] Really then why am I the only one here calling to count ALL games no exclusions whatsoever? Explain that to me... [QUOTE="marklarmer"]Also i like how you claimed "because in the metagame the PS3 wins as well as in the real world..." and then immediately proceeded to lecture someone else on the meanings of subjective and objective.marklarmer

I'm not claiming the metagame is subjective but the metagame has rules. If we follow those rules the PS3 wins. I'm not claiming scores are subjective but in the real world games have scores and if we count ALL games that are valid in the real world the PS3 wins.

Stop trying to put words in my mouth. I'm not the one arguing about objectivity and I'm not the one trying to exclude games. Focus pal.

I think  you'll find in the "real world" people don't buy a new console because they're eager play games from a previous generation on it :|

Higher scores on multi plats do not mean anything.  Just because a bunch of reviewers think the 360 version is better does not really mean anything.  It is true most multi plat games look better on the 360 because they are developed for the 360 first, but slightly better visuals is kind of a weak point to use.  Also most of the games in the 360 library are multi plats because the console has so few exclusives.  When the system lauched and for the first few years it had more exclusives because it was hard to work with the ps3 and the 360 had been out for a year.  Also MS paid to bring many ps3 exclusives over to the 360 such as GTA and Final Fantasy as well as they market big 3rd party games as 360 exlclusives so I find it hard to see how the 360 can have a better game library when so many of its games are multi play.  And don't  bring up games like Mass Effect 1, Gears of War 1, Left 4 Dead 1 and 2, Jade Empire,  The Witcher 2, The Last Remnant, Dead Rising 1, Fable 1, and Fable 3 because they are not exclusuves.  All of those games are also on PC except for Dead Rising which was ported to the Wii.

It all comes down to what works best for you.  I am a PC gamer but prefer the ps3 for all console games that are not on pc and use my 360 for exclusives only.  With the ps3 I can play multi plats and many excluives so I can leave my ps3 hooked up to my tv.  I don't really care for online play but when I feel like it I can just jump onto psn without having to worry about a subscription.  Finally with most of my console games on ps3 I can sell my 360 if I ever really need to and will still be able to play most of my console games because I have them for ps3.  Others though may feel the complete opposite from me, no one is right or wrong.

[QUOTE="marklarmer"]

[QUOTE="kuraimen"]

I'm not claiming the metagame is subjective but the metagame has rules. If we follow those rules the PS3 wins. I'm not claiming scores are subjective but in the real world games have scores and if we count ALL games that are valid in the real world the PS3 wins.

Stop trying to put words in my mouth. I'm not the one arguing about objectivity and I'm not the one trying to exclude games. Focus pal.

kuraimen

I think  you'll find in the "real world" people don't buy a new console because they're eager play games from a previous generation on it :|

why else would you have to resort to hiding behind games made and reviewed like decade before the actual consoles we're discussing existed?marklarmer

[QUOTE="marklarmer"]why else would you have to resort to hiding behind games made and reviewed like decade before the actual consoles we're discussing existed?kuraimen

thats how it works in the real worldmarklarmer

[QUOTE="marklarmer"]thats how it works in the real worldkuraimen

[QUOTE="kuraimen"][QUOTE="marklarmer"]thats how it works in the real worldmarklarmer

[QUOTE="marklarmer"]

[QUOTE="kuraimen"] Nope pal, in the real world FF7 is one of the best selling games on PSN. THAT'S the real world. Don't confuse your lem delusions for the real world. In the real world ALL games count. Sorry to burst your bubble. kuraimen

[QUOTE="kuraimen"][QUOTE="marklarmer"]lol truly awful copout :roll: i'm sure trying to play PS1 games will be one of the first things people do when unboxing their PS4s.Miketheman83

[QUOTE="kuraimen"][QUOTE="marklarmer"]lol truly awful copout :roll: i'm sure trying to play PS1 games will be one of the first things people do when unboxing their PS4s.

Miketheman83

MIke, I'll actually come to your rescue since we have been barking in this thread since its inception.

When you take Metacritics ratings for solely retail games advertised as full games (NO DLC, add ons, Arcade games, Special Editions, etc.), the 360 has a small handful of a greater amount of more highly acclaimed games.

There are tons of reasons why this does not mean it is the best library. I've already mentioned those a million times in this thread.

[QUOTE="marklarmer"]

[QUOTE="kuraimen"] Nope pal, in the real world FF7 is one of the best selling games on PSN. THAT'S the real world. Don't confuse your lem delusions for the real world. In the real world ALL games count. Sorry to burst your bubble. kuraimen

Again its a fairly pathetic desperate argument which cows last brought up in the PS3s early years when it couldn't fend for itself against the 360 (and so seemingly here we are again), and again i'll point out practically any if not all console games can be played on PC in one way or another, yet you don't see anyone trying to add them to the PCs list of games because "they can be played on PC".

Here we are nearing the start of a new generation and you're trying to cling onto the idea that all games from 15-20 years are worth putting on a list against games released today. :lol: what a desperate moron.

In the real world Microsoft has released more high scoring games this gen than Sony has. Miketheman83

include games which were design for and reviewed on another platform long before the PS3 even existedmarklarmer

Again its a fairly pathetic desperate argument which cows last brought up in the PS3s early years when it couldn't fend for itself against the 360marklarmer

[QUOTE="Miketheman83"][QUOTE="kuraimen"] I'm sure playing Tiger Woods PGA Tour 09 is the first people do when unboxing a 360 :roll:. Stop being a hypocrite honey.lild1425

MIke, I'll actually come to your rescue since we have been barking in this thread since its inception.

When you take Metacritics ratings for solely retail games advertised as full games (NO DLC, add ons, Arcade games, Special Editions, etc.), the 360 has a small handful of a greater amount of more highly acclaimed games.

There are tons of reasons why this does not mean it is the best library. I've already mentioned those a million times in this thread.

I personally think a higher reviewed library is the better library. If you don't agree with that that's fine.

My point is that even when shown concrete evidence of something, PS3 fans can't admit the truth. You are the only one is this thread that has even acknowledged the fact that the 360 technically has more high rated games.

If PS3 fans can't admit something based on truth why should anyone take them seriously or bother to debate with them?

the fact that the 360 technically has more high rated games.Miketheman83

[QUOTE="marklarmer"]

[QUOTE="kuraimen"] I'm sure playing Tiger Woods PGA Tour 09 is the first people do when unboxing a 360 :roll:. Stop being a hypocrite honey.sts106mat

Again its a fairly pathetic desperate argument which cows last brought up in the PS3s early years when it couldn't fend for itself against the 360 (and so seemingly here we are again), and again i'll point out practically any if not all console games can be played on PC in one way or another, yet you don't see anyone trying to add them to the PCs list of games because "they can be played on PC".

Here we are nearing the start of a new generation and you're trying to cling onto the idea that all games from 15-20 years are worth putting on a list against games released today. :lol: what a desperate moron.

[QUOTE="Miketheman83"]In the real world Microsoft has released more high scoring games this gen than Sony has. kuraimen

If you do a Metacritic count, it ends up being so. Many are Kinect Zumba Fitness type games, but you'll be surprised if you do a count (this is excluding counting arcade, DLC crap, etc) although a handful are the Kinect titles that scored okay in the 70-79% range. Took me awhile to do a Miketheman fact check, but it actually adds up (not 200 more, but rather like 20ish more).

I still think the PS3 library is better than the 360's. More variety with the PS3, and the top 10 rating 360 games are basically the three same franchises (Halo Gears Forza).

Not as desperate as lems trying to nitpick rules to claim they "won".kuraimen

The Lems have been relentless recently. Can't accept the fact that the slow Tortoise start of the PS3 caught up (and passed) the 360's Hare.

[QUOTE="kuraimen"]Not as desperate as lems trying to nitpick rules to claim they "won".lild1425

The Lems have been relentless recently. Can't accept the fact that the slow Tortoise start of the PS3 caught up (and passed) the 360's Hare.

[QUOTE="kuraimen"][QUOTE="Miketheman83"]In the real world Microsoft has released more high scoring games this gen than Sony has. lild1425

If you do a Metacritic count, it ends up being so. Many are Kinect Zumba Fitness type games, but you'll be surprised if you do a count (this is excluding counting arcade, DLC crap, etc) although a handful are the Kinect titles that scored okay in the 70-79% range. Took me awhile to do a Miketheman fact check, but it actually adds up (not 200 more, but rather like 20ish more).

I still think the PS3 library is better than the 360's. More variety with the PS3, and the top 10 rating 360 games are basically the three same franchises (Halo Gears Forza).

Although if we look at the entire catalog of games available for both systems the PS3 wins since it has many past gen games that can be played on it. PS1 and PS2 games was a big selling point for me, many people ask the same of the PS4 as it makes a console more attractive, that's why I say that in the real world they are important, everything is important since you can't know why a person chooses a console over another and all of those options ultimately count differently for different people but they count. Still I imagine that for the average gamer having the option to play FF7 is more attractive than playing a Tiger Woods game from 2009 which is part of my point why not counting some games and counting others is kind of ridiculous. For SW purposes ok maybe like the metagame does but not in the real world.

[QUOTE="lild1425"]

[QUOTE="kuraimen"]Not as desperate as lems trying to nitpick rules to claim they "won".locopatho

The Lems have been relentless recently. Can't accept the fact that the slow Tortoise start of the PS3 caught up (and passed) the 360's Hare.

[QUOTE="kuraimen"][QUOTE="delta3074"]no, there a huge difference, you are talking Backwards compatibility, the titles the PC and 360 share are actually released FOR the 360, you see thats where you are going wrong, PC/360 games are not just 'games you can play on the system' they are games that are actually released FOR that system, Ps1 and Ps2 games where not actually released FOR the Ps3 where they?delta3074

[QUOTE="lild1425"]

[QUOTE="kuraimen"]Not as desperate as lems trying to nitpick rules to claim they "won".locopatho

The Lems have been relentless recently. Can't accept the fact that the slow Tortoise start of the PS3 caught up (and passed) the 360's Hare.

Let me clarify because I've mentioned a few times on this very page that the 360 has indeed more highly rated games as I have done a count. Both desperate, but lems appear far worse. Using HD Collection is definitely asinine, but the initial post that says 200 more games rated 70-100 (or something like that), which is significantly more absurd. DLC, doublecounting special editions, and counting arcade games was obviously done, which is what I argued with Mike about for like 1000 pages of this thread. 

Even accepting that there are more highly rated 360 games on Metacritic still doesn't mean it is a slam dunk.

What I was referring to was that the 360 absolutely destroyed the PS3 out of the gate, but PS3 came back and very very quickly. The Tortoise and the Hare analogy is actually a pretty terrible one. It's actually the reverse if anything so just disregard that nonsense. Sawwy. 

But it seems the cow/lem situation is like this: Have you ever been to a sporting event like an American football event when your team is up by 40 points, so you basically trash talk the visiting fan next to you relentlessly because they were favored to win. Next thing you know, the opposing team gains insurmountable momentum to tie the game and is perhaps even winning and that visiting fan just tears you a new one. You are so dumbfounded that you just grasp at straws? That's the kind of the desperation I'm talking about. I have done it in my life one way or another. Oh wait, I did. I bashed the PS3 into oblivion. Luckily, I don't blindly follow a system and now I now own one.

[QUOTE="locopatho"][QUOTE="lild1425"]

The Lems have been relentless recently. Can't accept the fact that the slow Tortoise start of the PS3 caught up (and passed) the 360's Hare.

kuraimen

Still using games that are not even rated for their system as ammo against another system.......

Cows.....why? 

[QUOTE="marklarmer"]why else would you have to resort to hiding behind games made and reviewed like decade before the actual consoles we're discussing existed?kuraimen

[QUOTE="kuraimen"][QUOTE="marklarmer"]why else would you have to resort to hiding behind games made and reviewed like decade before the actual consoles we're discussing existed?delta3074

Also this is not just a score thread. The TC said in the title "better" library, not "better scored this gen library" He said "better library". Which is BS considering you can play some of the most critically acclaimed games EVER on the PS3 and not on the 360...

I didn't even need to count the games, because I already knew the answer. I've known it for well over a year.

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Proof? lolz....I HAZ GAMEZ DAMMIT!!!1!!! LOLZ Heil68

LMAO!! You got owned with proof. Shut your pie hole.

jealousy

Still using games that are not even rated for their system as ammo against another system.......

 

Cows.....why? 

Ly_the_Fairy