Why COD reigns supreme over any other FPS...

Controls. period.

COD has mastered/perfected the controls of FPS. No other game comes close. The closest imo is Halo.

When i played Killzone or bad company i couldnt aim for ****. My cross hairs was all over the place. Even when the enemy is close to me i have a hard time shooting them. Now i know it takes time to get used to it but why waste time to get used to it when its obvious that the gameplay is broken? Now i know some of you are going to be like "well its because its realistic and takes skill herp derp". To that all i can do is laugh.

In real life its not hard to aim from point A to point B nice and fast. Im not going to have a problem with overcompensation. Im going to lock on you pretty quick and take you out.

In COD the controls are nice, sweet, tight and precise exactly how it would be in real life especially if you are a trained soldier for crying out loud. I feel like im drunk when i play killzone and bad company. Im just spraying all over the place and wrestling with my controller just to kill a guy rite in front of my face.

COD has the most realistic controls. And people keep on buying them because of its perfection. SW's complains about rehash...well, when something is perfected....you cant do much to improve it can you? If you want improvments wait for COD 9 when it comes out on PS4 and xbox 720. The only improvements with be the amazing graphics while maintaining 60fps......but for now...60fps>>>>graphics. so stop crying.

Discuss...

Omega-316

I think you spelled 'Counter-Strike' wrong.

If you're playing on a console, I see this as a problem. But Bad Company 2 controlled so well with a mouse and keyboard on PC, it was insane. BF3 controls amazingly also.

CoD is crap anyway, why would you want to have perfect aiming in a crap game?

DragonfireXZ95

Call of Duty is 1000 times more significant than BF.

Call of Duty is 1000 times more significant than BF.

DangerousLiquid

Also 1000 times worse than BF.

[QUOTE="DangerousLiquid"]

Call of Duty is 1000 times more significant than BF.

ChubbyGuy40

Also 1000 times worse than BF.

Nah, that's subjective. Also, the scores disagree with you.

Still, BF is nothing compared to CoD when it comes to being significant to the gaming industry. Facts, not opinions.

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[QUOTE="DangerousLiquid"]

Call of Duty is 1000 times more significant than BF.

DangerousLiquid

Also 1000 times worse than BF.

Nah, that's subjective. Also, the scores disagree with you.

Still, BF is nothing compared to CoD when it comes to being significant to the gaming industry. Facts, not opinions.

Nah, that's subjective. Also, the scores disagree with you.

Still, BF is nothing compared to CoD when it comes to being significant to the gaming industry. Facts, not opinions.

DangerousLiquid

Subjective and opinions differ from mine.

Except evolving MP for the better, Battlefield did more than CoD ever will. Only significant thing Cod did was make a casual FPS that's extremely easy to play, but that doesn't mean it was good.

[QUOTE="DangerousLiquid"]

Nah, that's subjective. Also, the scores disagree with you.

Still, BF is nothing compared to CoD when it comes to being significant to the gaming industry. Facts, not opinions.

ChubbyGuy40

Subjective and opinions differ from mine.

Except evolving MP for the better, Battlefield did more than CoD ever will. Only significant thing Cod did was make a casual FPS that's extremely easy to play, but that doesn't mean it was good.

BF didn't evolve MP in any matter, except for promoting camping. While CoD1 and CoD2 were seen as revolutionary, and CoD4 completely rewrote the rule-book of how to make a modern FPS game.

Simplistic controls made for kids = best FPS of all time? Autoaim means quality? Stupidly large hitboxes and blast radius are good? No recoil, no bullet spread, and laser bullets means better controls?

Realistic controls? So much wrong it should be bannable. If you want realism, play a real man's game.

60FPS > graphics? Why can't we have both?

ChubbyGuy40

feels good to be apart of the PC gaming master race. Its a shame console players have to stick to CoD because the Battlefield games on their platforms aren't capable of 60+ FPS and butter smooth controls.

My favorite FPS series are Halo and CoD. In fact, MW3 and Halo: CE Anniversary Edition are the only FPSs I'm picking up this Fall.

Why does simple mean its for kids? Also if you want to talk about real-realism and being manly go join the army I hear that **** gets pretty real.

chaoz-king

That means it's made so ANYONE can pick it up and play. Stuff like that usually has no real depth (Like many Wii games.)

But there's no respawn in IRL. If I lag out there I'm dead!! Heard the visuals are pretty nice though. Plus Army is for casuals. I'd join the Marines :P

[QUOTE="chaoz-king"]

Why does simple mean its for kids? Also if you want to talk about real-realism and being manly go join the army I hear that **** gets pretty real.

ChubbyGuy40

That means it's made so ANYONE can pick it up and play. Stuff like that usually has no real depth (Like many Wii games.)

But there's no respawn in IRL. If I lag out there I'm dead!! Heard the visuals are pretty nice though. Plus Army is for casuals. I'd join the Marines :P

[QUOTE="DangerousLiquid"]

[QUOTE="ChubbyGuy40"]

Subjective and opinions differ from mine.

Except evolving MP for the better, Battlefield did more than CoD ever will. Only significant thing Cod did was make a casual FPS that's extremely easy to play, but that doesn't mean it was good.

Desmonic

BF didn't evolve MP in any matter, except for promoting camping. While CoD1 and CoD2 were seen as revolutionary, and CoD4 completely rewrote the rule-book of how to make a modern FPS game.

Nah, camping is rarely a success story in COD.

[QUOTE="Desmonic"][QUOTE="DangerousLiquid"]

BF didn't evolve MP in any matter, except for promoting camping. While CoD1 and CoD2 were seen as revolutionary, and CoD4 completely rewrote the rule-book of how to make a modern FPS game.

DangerousLiquid

Nah, camping is rarely a success story in COD.

Of course it is.:|

Christ, do call of duty fanboys even think?

60fps helps, but COD is arcade style, KZ3 and BC2 try to add some realism to the way weapons feel so it's not as easy as COD.SaltyMeatballs

I agree with 60 FPS, I was playing BulletStorm demo, my crosshair was gliding all over the place. Yes I have tried changing the sensitivity setting.

I went back to COD, it's all tight again.

If by controls you mean the guns weighing as much as sticks and having no recoil, sure.

[QUOTE="DangerousLiquid"]

[QUOTE="Desmonic"] Exactly! It brought "Run and Gun mixed with Camping". Hurray for CoD! =D No skill required, even your mom and dad can get that 25 killstreak nuke now! =D ..../sarcasm!el3m2tigre

Nah, camping is rarely a success story in COD.

Of course it is.:|

Nah, it's too fast-paced. And with killcams enabled, there will be flying all kinds of explosives at you the next second, and the enemies will rush you the next minute. You feel stressed, make mistakes etc...

The best thing to do is to move around the maps wisely, which takes practise. ;)

So in order to become better at COD, you need to practise, while you can have your sniper and bush camp in BF even if it's your first time.

[QUOTE="el3m2tigre"]

[QUOTE="DangerousLiquid"]

Nah, camping is rarely a success story in COD.

DangerousLiquid

Of course it is.:|

Nah, it's too fast-paced. And with killcams enabled, there will be flying all kinds of explosives at you the next second, and the enemies will rush you the next minute. You feel stressed, make mistakes etc...

The best thing to do is to move around the maps wisely, which takes practise. ;)

So in order to become better at COD, you need to practise, while you can have your sniper and bush camp in BF even if it's your first time.

Then explain to me why I seen my cousins multiple times camping by just sitting in one area and waiting until they got a nuke in MW2 and how they abused glitches like that cold blooded pro glitch to boost for exp.

[QUOTE="el3m2tigre"]

[QUOTE="DangerousLiquid"]

Nah, camping is rarely a success story in COD.

DangerousLiquid

Of course it is.:|

Nah, it's too fast-paced. And with killcams enabled, there will be flying all kinds of explosives at you the next second, and the enemies will rush you the next minute. You feel stressed, make mistakes etc...

The best thing to do is to move around the maps wisely, which takes practise. ;)

So in order to become better at COD, you need to practise, while you can have your sniper and bush camp in BF even if it's your first time.

Except, people don't just stay in one spot. Once they rack up a couple of kills they move on to the next camping spot.

[QUOTE="el3m2tigre"]

[QUOTE="DangerousLiquid"]

Nah, camping is rarely a success story in COD.

DangerousLiquid

Of course it is.:|

Nah, it's too fast-paced. And with killcams enabled, there will be flying all kinds of explosives at you the next second, and the enemies will rush you the next minute. You feel stressed, make mistakes etc...

The best thing to do is to move around the maps wisely, which takes practise. ;)

So in order to become better at COD, you need to practise, while you can have your sniper and bush camp in BF even if it's your first time.

[QUOTE="DangerousLiquid"]

[QUOTE="el3m2tigre"]

Of course it is.:|

super600

Nah, it's too fast-paced. And with killcams enabled, there will be flying all kinds of explosives at you the next second, and the enemies will rush you the next minute. You feel stressed, make mistakes etc...

The best thing to do is to move around the maps wisely, which takes practise. ;)

So in order to become better at COD, you need to practise, while you can have your sniper and bush camp in BF even if it's your first time.

Then explain to me why I seen my cousins multiple times camping by just sitting in one area and waiting until they got a nuke in MW2 and how they abused glitches like that cold blooded pro glitch to boost for exp.

Your cousin's enemies must just have been very newbie.

This is why Killzone 3 turned out like it did. The COD fanboys whined to death about Killzone 2 having *bad* controls, and instead of keeping the weighted, very realistic feel of Killzone 2 they took out the weight and recoil completely to try and capture the COD audience. The irony is Killzone 3 sold less than Killzone 2.

Guns don't feel like toys, people.

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[QUOTE="DangerousLiquid"]

Nah, it's too fast-paced. And with killcams enabled, there will be flying all kinds of explosives at you the next second, and the enemies will rush you the next minute. You feel stressed, make mistakes etc...

The best thing to do is to move around the maps wisely, which takes practise. ;)

So in order to become better at COD, you need to practise, while you can have your sniper and bush camp in BF even if it's your first time.

DangerousLiquid

Then explain to me why I seen my cousins multiple times camping by just sitting in one area and waiting until they got a nuke in MW2 and how they abused glitches like that cold blooded pro glitch to boost for exp.

Your cousin's enemies must just have been very newbie.

I even seen my cousins talking about using cheap tactics. I doubt my cousins enemies were newbie.

[QUOTE="DangerousLiquid"]

[QUOTE="el3m2tigre"]

Of course it is.:|

Desmonic

Nah, it's too fast-paced. And with killcams enabled, there will be flying all kinds of explosives at you the next second, and the enemies will rush you the next minute. You feel stressed, make mistakes etc...

The best thing to do is to move around the maps wisely, which takes practise. ;)

So in order to become better at COD, you need to practise, while you can have your sniper and bush camp in BF even if it's your first time.

I lol'd XD

Dude! I played my share of CoD online and all I ever saw was campers and run'n'gunners. Nothing else! They'd either camp with a sniper/rifle or run around with a shotgun (almost) always in the same trajectory just shooting at every that moved.

Also, no one actually makes mistakes in CoD. The first time I failed to throw a grenade in CoD I made a double kill...so yeah. Never did I feel that I was being punished for being "new" ( by this I mean not understanding the whole mechanics of the game...which is impossible to miss in CoD) to the game, or failing to do what I wanted to do or what I was supposed to do. It was ( and still is) the easiest FPS to play competitively.

Strangely enough, the first time I tried to camp with a sniper in BF:BC2 I was sniped back... Damn you snipers! :x lol :P

Lol, it's the other way around for me. Had no problems destroying noobs in BF, using cheap tactics like camping in a bush with a sniper. The maps are so big, you just need to be a bit careful in order for them not to notice you. Not that difficult.

during quakecon 2011 Q & A or speech lol i forgot john carmack said quake is skilled based and rage is accessibile. IDSOFTWARE rip :(moptopflop

Quake, skillbased? Lol.

[QUOTE="moptopflop"]during quakecon 2011 Q & A or speech lol i forgot john carmack said quake is skilled based and rage is accessibile. IDSOFTWARE rip :(DangerousLiquid

Quake, skillbased? Lol.

[QUOTE="DangerousLiquid"]

[QUOTE="el3m2tigre"]

Of course it is.:|

Desmonic

Nah, it's too fast-paced. And with killcams enabled, there will be flying all kinds of explosives at you the next second, and the enemies will rush you the next minute. You feel stressed, make mistakes etc...

The best thing to do is to move around the maps wisely, which takes practise. ;)

So in order to become better at COD, you need to practise, while you can have your sniper and bush camp in BF even if it's your first time.

I lol'd XD

Dude! I played my share of CoD online and all I ever saw was campers and run'n'gunners. Nothing else! They'd either camp with a sniper/rifle or run around with a shotgun (almost) always in the same trajectory just shooting at every that moved.

Also, no one actually makes mistakes in CoD. The first time I failed to throw a grenade in CoD I made a double kill...so yeah. Never did I feel that I was being punished for being "new" ( by this I mean not understanding the whole mechanics of the game...which is impossible to miss in CoD) to the game, or failing to do what I wanted to do or what I was supposed to do. It was ( and still is) the easiest FPS to play competitively.

Strangely enough, the first time I tried to camp with a sniper in BF:BC2 I was sniped back... Damn you snipers! :x lol :P

[QUOTE="DangerousLiquid"]

[QUOTE="moptopflop"]during quakecon 2011 Q & A or speech lol i forgot john carmack said quake is skilled based and rage is accessibile. IDSOFTWARE rip :(moptopflop

Quake, skillbased? Lol.

Try S&D in CoD, noob.

[QUOTE="moptopflop"]during quakecon 2011 Q & A or speech lol i forgot john carmack said quake is skilled based and rage is accessibile. IDSOFTWARE rip :(DangerousLiquid

Quake, skillbased? Lol.

What I am wondering is where were all of you guys supporting the weight and controls of KZ2 when it was getting historically bashed :P

What I am wondering is where were all of you guys supporting the weight and controls of KZ2 when it was getting historically bashed :P

gaming25

What, here? I wasn't on these boards then.

I'm sure those were some facepalm worthy threads, though. :P

[QUOTE="gaming25"]

What I am wondering is where were all of you guys supporting the weight and controls of KZ2 when it was getting historically bashed :P

What, here? I wasn't on these boards then.

I'm sure those were some facepalm worthy threads, though. :P

[QUOTE="theuncharted34"]

[QUOTE="gaming25"]

What I am wondering is where were all of you guys supporting the weight and controls of KZ2 when it was getting historically bashed :P

gaming25

What, here? I wasn't on these boards then.

I'm sure those were some facepalm worthy threads, though. :P

I think the weighty controls were put there so people wouldn't notice the horrible input lag in the game... which is 166ms I believe. games like Killzone3, Reach, and COD dont have those problems. The inout lag from those games ranges from 88ms-100ms. When you factor inout lag from your TV as well things can become pretty unplayble if your used to smooth controls from other games. I noticed it right away in Killzone 2, and it was one of the reasons I stopped playing it right away.

lrn2aimwithoutaimassist

kthx

[QUOTE="DragonfireXZ95"]

If you're playing on a console, I see this as a problem. But Bad Company 2 controlled so well with a mouse and keyboard on PC, it was insane. BF3 controls amazingly also.

CoD is crap anyway, why would you want to have perfect aiming in a crap game?

DangerousLiquid

Call of Duty is 1000 times more significant than BF.

[QUOTE="Desmonic"][QUOTE="DangerousLiquid"]

BF didn't evolve MP in any matter, except for promoting camping. While CoD1 and CoD2 were seen as revolutionary, and CoD4 completely rewrote the rule-book of how to make a modern FPS game.

DangerousLiquid

Nah, camping is rarely a success story in COD.

[QUOTE="DangerousLiquid"]

[QUOTE="Desmonic"] Exactly! It brought "Run and Gun mixed with Camping". Hurray for CoD! =D No skill required, even your mom and dad can get that 25 killstreak nuke now! =D ..../sarcasm!lightleggy

Nah, camping is rarely a success story in COD.

[QUOTE="ChubbyGuy40"]

[QUOTE="DangerousLiquid"]

Nah, that's subjective. Also, the scores disagree with you.

Still, BF is nothing compared to CoD when it comes to being significant to the gaming industry. Facts, not opinions.

DangerousLiquid

Subjective and opinions differ from mine.

Except evolving MP for the better, Battlefield did more than CoD ever will. Only significant thing Cod did was make a casual FPS that's extremely easy to play, but that doesn't mean it was good.

BF didn't evolve MP in any matter, except for promoting camping. While CoD1 and CoD2 were seen as revolutionary, and CoD4 completely rewrote the rule-book of how to make a modern FPS game.

yes because bf wasnt the first game to add vehicles into a fps that u could use and control fully in mp(and refined with each iteration)...because bf2 wasnt the first game to add persistent stats and unlocks(which cod stole and made op with perks and killstreaks)...and because bf still doesnt use regenerating health...one of the worst things ive ever seen in a modern fps game... they have an entire class for healing people and reviving them...and yes...they have objectives that u are supposed to defend in bf...does that promote camping...yes...but u know what...they added a way to fix that...i can blow up ur cover...most of the times i see people campin in cod is in death match games...and they usually have some of the best scores in teh game(at least on pc)...bf revolutionized fps games...cod took ideas from bf...and tried to add regen health and make a arcade shooter easy for everyone to play...while its popular...and yes its done some good things over the years...its not tried to get any better in the past 4 games...at least all of the bf games have brought something new or completely changed and improved upon all mechanics...