Why COD reigns supreme over any other FPS...

[QUOTE="gamedude234"]

[QUOTE="DangerousLiquid"]

BF didn't use class systems.

DangerousLiquid

Do you honestly think COD was the first FPS to have a class based system?

and btw, here's a nice list which i'm sure you'll enjoy reading.

Nice list, being posted in 2007 before the release of this generation's most important game -- CALL OF DUTY 4.

[QUOTE="DangerousLiquid"]

[QUOTE="gamedude234"]

Do you honestly think COD was the first FPS to have a class based system?

and btw, here's a nice list which i'm sure you'll enjoy reading.

lightleggy

Nice list, being posted in 2007 before the release of this generation's most important game -- CALL OF DUTY 4.

Not necessarily, IW went their own personal way with the Modern Warfare settings.

[QUOTE="lightleggy"][QUOTE="DangerousLiquid"]

Nice list, being posted in 2007 before the release of this generation's most important game -- CALL OF DUTY 4.

DangerousLiquid

Not necessarily, IW went their own personal way with the Modern Warfare settings.

Back up a bit...

How is CoD4 the generation's most important game aside from making a franchise insanley popular?

[QUOTE="DangerousLiquid"]

[QUOTE="lightleggy"] even better, then it means COD is a game that was influenced by the ones from that list.turtlethetaffer

Not necessarily, IW went their own personal way with the Modern Warfare settings.

Back up a bit...

How is CoD4 the generation's most important game aside from making a franchise insanley popular?

It gave the FPS genre new life.

It inspired countless of developers, gave them ideas.

It revolutionized MP gaming, you can't deny this.

[QUOTE="turtlethetaffer"]

[QUOTE="DangerousLiquid"]

Not necessarily, IW went their own personal way with the Modern Warfare settings.

DangerousLiquid

Back up a bit...

How is CoD4 the generation's most important game aside from making a franchise insanley popular?

It gave the FPS genre new life.

It inspired countless of developers, gave them ideas.

It revolutionized MP gaming, you can't deny this.

Hey I'm not saying CoD4 didn't change the industry... but the MOST IMPORTANT game this gen? Kind of a stretch. The only thing it really did was add the level up/ reward system. Aside from that, not much. And, if by inspired, you mean "made them rip right from CoD" then yes the game did inspire devs.

Making a franchise/ genre popular doesn't make a game important.

Before you ask what is the msot important game this gen, I have no idea.

[QUOTE="turtlethetaffer"]

[QUOTE="DangerousLiquid"]

Not necessarily, IW went their own personal way with the Modern Warfare settings.

DangerousLiquid

Back up a bit...

How is CoD4 the generation's most important game aside from making a franchise insanley popular?

It gave the FPS genre new life.

It inspired countless of developers, gave them ideas.

It revolutionized MP gaming, you can't deny this.

[QUOTE="DangerousLiquid"]

[QUOTE="turtlethetaffer"]

Back up a bit...

How is CoD4 the generation's most important game aside from making a franchise insanley popular?

turtlethetaffer

It gave the FPS genre new life.

It inspired countless of developers, gave them ideas.

It revolutionized MP gaming, you can't deny this.

Hey I'm not saying CoD4 didn't change the industry... but the MOST IMPORTANT game this gen? Kind of a stretch. The only thing it really did was add the level up/ reward system. Aside from that, not much. And, if by inspired, you mean "made them rip right from CoD" then yes the game did inspire devs.

Making a franchise/ genre popular doesn't make a game important.

Before you ask what is the msot important game this gen, I have no idea.

Then tell me simply one game that is more important.

[QUOTE="turtlethetaffer"]

[QUOTE="DangerousLiquid"]

Not necessarily, IW went their own personal way with the Modern Warfare settings.

DangerousLiquid

Back up a bit...

How is CoD4 the generation's most important game aside from making a franchise insanley popular?

It gave the FPS genre new life.

It inspired countless of developers, gave them ideas.

It revolutionized MP gaming, you can't deny this.

It didn't revolutionize anything. It brought casualism to the FPS genre. It inspired countless Devs to come out with crapy CoD clones.

/denied

[QUOTE="turtlethetaffer"]

[QUOTE="DangerousLiquid"]

It gave the FPS genre new life.

It inspired countless of developers, gave them ideas.

It revolutionized MP gaming, you can't deny this.

DangerousLiquid

Hey I'm not saying CoD4 didn't change the industry... but the MOST IMPORTANT game this gen? Kind of a stretch. The only thing it really did was add the level up/ reward system. Aside from that, not much. And, if by inspired, you mean "made them rip right from CoD" then yes the game did inspire devs.

Making a franchise/ genre popular doesn't make a game important.

Before you ask what is the msot important game this gen, I have no idea.

Then tell me simply one game that is more important.

RDR, SMG (1 and 2), SSBB, AC (the first one) to name a few.

[QUOTE="turtlethetaffer"]

[QUOTE="DangerousLiquid"]

It gave the FPS genre new life.

It inspired countless of developers, gave them ideas.

It revolutionized MP gaming, you can't deny this.

DangerousLiquid

Hey I'm not saying CoD4 didn't change the industry... but the MOST IMPORTANT game this gen? Kind of a stretch. The only thing it really did was add the level up/ reward system. Aside from that, not much. And, if by inspired, you mean "made them rip right from CoD" then yes the game did inspire devs.

Making a franchise/ genre popular doesn't make a game important.

Before you ask what is the msot important game this gen, I have no idea.

Then tell me simply one game that is more important.

[QUOTE="turtlethetaffer"]

[QUOTE="DangerousLiquid"]

Then tell me simply one game that is more important.

DangerousLiquid

RDR, SMG (1 and 2), SSBB, AC (the first one) to name a few.

Lmao, I'm done here. :lol::lol:

Why? How are these games not important? Also you have some posts above to respond to. And somehow I knew you would respond this way, SHR3DD3D.

Lmao, I'm done here. :lol::lol:

DangerousLiquid

Super Mario Galaxy. Revolutionized, once again, the platformer genre.

CoD just made FPS accessable for casuals.

SMG created amazing gameplay and design ideas, CoD made overly dramatic hollywood scripted scenes that take up half the campaign the norm in games today plus created a stupidly-simple MP that 5 year olds could understand.

One revolutionized, the other is destroying.

[QUOTE="DangerousLiquid"]

Lmao, I'm done here. :lol::lol:

ChubbyGuy40

Super Mario Galaxy. Revolutionized, once again, the platformer genre.

CoD just made FPS accessable for casuals.

SMG created amazing gameplay and design ideas, CoD made overly dramatic hollywood scripted scenes that take up half the campaign the norm in games today plus created a stupidly-simple MP that 5 year olds could understand.

One revolutionized, the other is destroying.

SMG wasn't important in any manner whatsoever. It was a decent platformer, but it wasn't important for its genre. I thought you knew this people. It's common sense.

Wha... I don't even... I'm literally facepalming over the things being said here. The fact of the matter is popularity =/= quality. Devs copy CoD because it makes money. That's it. There's nothing innovative about its design. CoD has done very little except casualize a genre. It's like saying Transformers is the most important film of the year or Wii Sports is the best game this gen because they're popular. Just no.

[QUOTE="ChubbyGuy40"]

[QUOTE="DangerousLiquid"]

Lmao, I'm done here. :lol::lol:

DangerousLiquid

Super Mario Galaxy. Revolutionized, once again, the platformer genre.

CoD just made FPS accessable for casuals.

SMG created amazing gameplay and design ideas, CoD made overly dramatic hollywood scripted scenes that take up half the campaign the norm in games today plus created a stupidly-simple MP that 5 year olds could understand.

One revolutionized, the other is destroying.

SMG wasn't important in any manner whatsoever. It was a decent platformer, but it wasn't important for its genre. I thought you knew this people. It's common sense.

And all CoD did was spawn clones. It wasn't important. FPS's were fine beforehand.

Meanwhile SMG took innovative steps forward in terms of level design, but that's not "important." Go figure.

[QUOTE="ChubbyGuy40"]

[QUOTE="DangerousLiquid"]

Lmao, I'm done here. :lol::lol:

DangerousLiquid

Super Mario Galaxy. Revolutionized, once again, the platformer genre.

CoD just made FPS accessable for casuals.

SMG created amazing gameplay and design ideas, CoD made overly dramatic hollywood scripted scenes that take up half the campaign the norm in games today plus created a stupidly-simple MP that 5 year olds could understand.

One revolutionized, the other is destroying.

SMG wasn't important in any manner whatsoever. It was a decent platformer, but it wasn't important for its genre. I thought you knew this people. It's common sense.

Then explain how both SMG games have a 97% on MC right now and why they are tied for second right behind GTA4 Shred3D?

All FPS's that use dual analog controllers control poorly.

[QUOTE="DangerousLiquid"]

[QUOTE="turtlethetaffer"]

Back up a bit...

How is CoD4 the generation's most important game aside from making a franchise insanley popular?

lightleggy

It gave the FPS genre new life.

It inspired countless of developers, gave them ideas.

It revolutionized MP gaming, you can't deny this.

COD didn't even invent killstreaks. Star wars Battlefront 2 did.

[QUOTE="DangerousLiquid"]

[QUOTE="turtlethetaffer"]

RDR, SMG (1 and 2), SSBB, AC (the first one) to name a few.

turtlethetaffer

Lmao, I'm done here. :lol::lol:

Why? How are these games not important? Also you have some posts above to respond to. And somehow I knew you would respond this way, SHR3DD3D.

he's not SHR3DD3D. shredded hated COD

[QUOTE="turtlethetaffer"]

[QUOTE="DangerousLiquid"]

It gave the FPS genre new life.

It inspired countless of developers, gave them ideas.

It revolutionized MP gaming, you can't deny this.

DangerousLiquid

Hey I'm not saying CoD4 didn't change the industry... but the MOST IMPORTANT game this gen? Kind of a stretch. The only thing it really did was add the level up/ reward system. Aside from that, not much. And, if by inspired, you mean "made them rip right from CoD" then yes the game did inspire devs.

Making a franchise/ genre popular doesn't make a game important.

Before you ask what is the msot important game this gen, I have no idea.

Then tell me simply one game that is more important.

MW2. set a new standard for how terrible an FPS could be. but in all seriuosness, pretty much any nintendo developed game. Even nintendogs was more important than COD4.

[QUOTE="turtlethetaffer"]

[QUOTE="DangerousLiquid"]

Lmao, I'm done here. :lol::lol:

gamedude234

Why? How are these games not important? Also you have some posts above to respond to. And somehow I knew you would respond this way, SHR3DD3D.

he's not SHR3DD3D. shredded hated COD

Shre3DD3D actually like COD stop kidding around.

[QUOTE="DangerousLiquid"]

[QUOTE="ChubbyGuy40"]

Super Mario Galaxy. Revolutionized, once again, the platformer genre.

CoD just made FPS accessable for casuals.

SMG created amazing gameplay and design ideas, CoD made overly dramatic hollywood scripted scenes that take up half the campaign the norm in games today plus created a stupidly-simple MP that 5 year olds could understand.

One revolutionized, the other is destroying.

turtlethetaffer

SMG wasn't important in any manner whatsoever. It was a decent platformer, but it wasn't important for its genre. I thought you knew this people. It's common sense.

And all CoD did was spawn clones. It wasn't important. FPS's were fine beforehand.

Meanwhile SMG took innovative steps forward in terms of level design, but that's not "important." Go figure.

OK, look at it from this angle:

compare;

how many games or developers did SMG inspire, and how many did CoD4?

SMG certainly isn't as important as CoD4, not even close. Imagine SMG never existed... Big difference? I don't think so. Few kids really love SMG.

But now...

imagine CoD4 never existed. The face of FPS today would have been entirely different.

[QUOTE="turtlethetaffer"]

[QUOTE="DangerousLiquid"]

SMG wasn't important in any manner whatsoever. It was a decent platformer, but it wasn't important for its genre. I thought you knew this people. It's common sense.

DangerousLiquid

And all CoD did was spawn clones. It wasn't important. FPS's were fine beforehand.

Meanwhile SMG took innovative steps forward in terms of level design, but that's not "important." Go figure.

OK, look at it from this angle:

compare;

how many games or developers did SMG inspire, and how many did CoD4?

SMG certainly isn't as important as CoD4, not even close. Imagine SMG never existed... Big difference? I don't think so. Few kids really love SMG.

But now...

imagine CoD4 never existed. The face of FPS today would have been entirely different.

COD4 really didn't inspire anyone. They ust attempted to rip off of it's ppularity while not making there games better then CODMW.

[QUOTE="DangerousLiquid"]

[QUOTE="turtlethetaffer"]

And all CoD did was spawn clones. It wasn't important. FPS's were fine beforehand.

Meanwhile SMG took innovative steps forward in terms of level design, but that's not "important." Go figure.

super600

OK, look at it from this angle:

compare;

how many games or developers did SMG inspire, and how many did CoD4?

SMG certainly isn't as important as CoD4, not even close. Imagine SMG never existed... Big difference? I don't think so. Few kids really love SMG.

But now...

imagine CoD4 never existed. The face of FPS today would have been entirely different.

COD4 really didn't inspire anyone. They ust attempted to rip off of it's ppularity while not making there games better then CODMW.

Um, pretty much any FPS released recently takes something from Call of Duty 4.

[QUOTE="super600"]

[QUOTE="DangerousLiquid"]

OK, look at it from this angle:

compare;

how many games or developers did SMG inspire, and how many did CoD4?

SMG certainly isn't as important as CoD4, not even close. Imagine SMG never existed... Big difference? I don't think so. Few kids really love SMG.

But now...

imagine CoD4 never existed. The face of FPS today would have been entirely different.

DangerousLiquid

COD4 really didn't inspire anyone. They ust attempted to rip off of it's ppularity while not making there games better then CODMW.

Um, pretty much any FPS released recently takes something from Call of Duty 4.

Yes! Do any of them go above and beyond what COD4 did even though it doesn't deserve it's praise now a days because of the bad COD games Shred3D.

[QUOTE="DangerousLiquid"]

[QUOTE="super600"]

COD4 really didn't inspire anyone. They ust attempted to rip off of it's ppularity while not making there games better then CODMW.

super600

Um, pretty much any FPS released recently takes something from Call of Duty 4.

Yes! Do any of them go above and beyond what COD4 did even though it doesn't deserve it's praise now a days because of the bad COD games Shred3D.

The recent COD games have nothing to do with the discussion we were having, although they are AAA and you can't deny it.

[QUOTE="super600"]

[QUOTE="DangerousLiquid"]

Um, pretty much any FPS released recently takes something from Call of Duty 4.

DangerousLiquid

Yes! Do any of them go above and beyond what COD4 did even though it doesn't deserve it's praise now a days because of the bad COD games Shred3D.

The recent COD games have nothing to do with the discussion we were having, although they are AAA and you can't deny it.

I agree, but devs are actually not trying to rip off of COD4, but they are trying to rip off one of the other COD games that released after COD 4 instead.

[QUOTE="DangerousLiquid"]

[QUOTE="super600"]

Yes! Do any of them go above and beyond what COD4 did even though it doesn't deserve it's praise now a days because of the bad COD games Shred3D.

super600

The recent COD games have nothing to do with the discussion we were having, although they are AAA and you can't deny it.

I agree, but devs are actually not trying to rip off of COD4, but they are trying to rip off one of the other COD games that released after COD 4 instead.

The ones after 4 were not as big improvments, the devs only went deeper with the ideas, but never came up with new ones. CoD4 is still the game they copy when they copy MW2, for instance.

[QUOTE="turtlethetaffer"]

[QUOTE="DangerousLiquid"]

SMG wasn't important in any manner whatsoever. It was a decent platformer, but it wasn't important for its genre. I thought you knew this people. It's common sense.

DangerousLiquid

And all CoD did was spawn clones. It wasn't important. FPS's were fine beforehand.

Meanwhile SMG took innovative steps forward in terms of level design, but that's not "important." Go figure.

OK, look at it from this angle:

compare;

how many games or developers did SMG inspire, and how many did CoD4?

SMG certainly isn't as important as CoD4, not even close. Imagine SMG never existed... Big difference? I don't think so. Few kids really love SMG.

But now...

imagine CoD4 never existed. The face of FPS today would have been entirely different.

[QUOTE="super600"]

[QUOTE="DangerousLiquid"]

The recent COD games have nothing to do with the discussion we were having, although they are AAA and you can't deny it.

DangerousLiquid

I agree, but devs are actually not trying to rip off of COD4, but they are trying to rip off one of the other COD games that released after COD 4 instead.

The ones after 4 were not as big improvments, the devs only went deeper with the ideas, but never came up with new ones. CoD4 is still the game they copy when they copy MW2, for instance.

Yeah!Even though the devs went deeper with their ideas they never tried to balance out the killstreak and perk systems in the recent COD games.I fine with the inspired devs try to copy MW gameplay as long as it doesn't end up being as cheap as MW2 and they go above and beyond MW.

[QUOTE="DangerousLiquid"]

[QUOTE="turtlethetaffer"]

And all CoD did was spawn clones. It wasn't important. FPS's were fine beforehand.

Meanwhile SMG took innovative steps forward in terms of level design, but that's not "important." Go figure.

Birdy09

OK, look at it from this angle:

compare;

how many games or developers did SMG inspire, and how many did CoD4?

SMG certainly isn't as important as CoD4, not even close. Imagine SMG never existed... Big difference? I don't think so. Few kids really love SMG.

But now...

imagine CoD4 never existed. The face of FPS today would have been entirely different.

Apart from derailing from the subject, you couldn't be more wrong. :)

[QUOTE="DangerousLiquid"]

[QUOTE="super600"]

I agree, but devs are actually not trying to rip off of COD4, but they are trying to rip off one of the other COD games that released after COD 4 instead.

super600

The ones after 4 were not as big improvments, the devs only went deeper with the ideas, but never came up with new ones. CoD4 is still the game they copy when they copy MW2, for instance.

Yeah!Even though the devs went deeper with their ideas they never tried to balance out the killstreak and perk systems in the recent COD games.

Seems you never played BLACK OPS. A really good and balanced game. ;)

[QUOTE="super600"]

[QUOTE="DangerousLiquid"]

The ones after 4 were not as big improvments, the devs only went deeper with the ideas, but never came up with new ones. CoD4 is still the game they copy when they copy MW2, for instance.

DangerousLiquid

Yeah!Even though the devs went deeper with their ideas they never tried to balance out the killstreak and perk systems in the recent COD games.

Seems you never played BLACK OPS. A really good and balanced game. ;)

I heard the online is brokenkinda and the game can destroy Wii's.

[QUOTE="DangerousLiquid"]

[QUOTE="super600"]

Yeah!Even though the devs went deeper with their ideas they never tried to balance out the killstreak and perk systems in the recent COD games.

super600

Seems you never played BLACK OPS. A really good and balanced game. ;)

I heard the online is brokenkinda and the game can destroy Wii's.

Um, you must have talked about MW2.

try to get some skills chap

COD is too easy.

Easiest? Yes. Popular? Yes. Best? No.

The equivalent of saying, Pop music reigns supreme over all music.

Srsly.

[QUOTE="super600"]

[QUOTE="DangerousLiquid"]

Seems you never played BLACK OPS. A really good and balanced game. ;)

DangerousLiquid

I heard the online is brokenkinda and the game can destroy Wii's.

Um, you must have talked about MW2.

I heard there are online issues on the Wii version, but there not as bad as the PS3 version.

[QUOTE="DangerousLiquid"]

[QUOTE="super600"]

I heard the online is brokenkinda and the game can destroy Wii's.

super600

Um, you must have talked about MW2.

I heard there are online issues on the Wii version, but there not as bad as the PS3 version.

Well, if you mix multiplayer with the Wii, you naturally get a catastrophe.

[QUOTE="super600"]

[QUOTE="DangerousLiquid"]

Um, you must have talked about MW2.

DangerousLiquid

I heard there are online issues on the Wii version, but there not as bad as the PS3 version.

Well, if you mix multiplayer with the Wii, you naturally get a catastrophe.

Ha! Not really unless the devs are lazing at setting up an online system that takes advantage of the Wii's online capabilities.

[QUOTE="DangerousLiquid"]

[QUOTE="super600"]

I heard there are online issues on the Wii version, but there not as bad as the PS3 version.

super600

Well, if you mix multiplayer with the Wii, you naturally get a catastrophe.

Ha! Not really unless the devs are lazing at setting up an online system that takes advantage of the Wii's online capabilities.

Well then tell me one Wii game with good online capabilities. And don't say SSBB, because it's not good.

[QUOTE="DangerousLiquid"]

[QUOTE="super600"]

I heard there are online issues on the Wii version, but there not as bad as the PS3 version.

super600

Well, if you mix multiplayer with the Wii, you naturally get a catastrophe.

Ha! Not really unless the devs are lazing at setting up an online system that takes advantage of the Wii's online capabilities.

The lag on Cod games I've seen on Wii was no worse than what I saw on 360.

[QUOTE="super600"]

[QUOTE="DangerousLiquid"]

Well, if you mix multiplayer with the Wii, you naturally get a catastrophe.

DangerousLiquid

Ha! Not really unless the devs are lazing at setting up an online system that takes advantage of the Wii's online capabilities.

Well then tell me one Wii game with good online capabilities. And don't say SSBB, because it's not good.

Can't answer that here.

[QUOTE="DangerousLiquid"]

[QUOTE="super600"]

Ha! Not really unless the devs are lazing at setting up an online system that takes advantage of the Wii's online capabilities.

super600

Well then tell me one Wii game with good online capabilities. And don't say SSBB, because it's not good.

Can't answer that here.

And that's your answer.

Zero. Nada.

[QUOTE="super600"]

[QUOTE="DangerousLiquid"]

Well then tell me one Wii game with good online capabilities. And don't say SSBB, because it's not good.

DangerousLiquid

Can't answer that here.

And that's your answer.

Zero. Nada.

Look at the Pm I sent you.

[QUOTE="DangerousLiquid"]

[QUOTE="super600"]

Can't answer that here.

super600

And that's your answer.

Zero. Nada.

Look at the Pm I sent you.

Why can't you write it here? And MKW isn't that good. It's only acceptable for the Wii console, but is heavily beaten by both GT5 and the Forza series in terms of longevity and driving quality.

[QUOTE="super600"]

[QUOTE="DangerousLiquid"]

And that's your answer.

Zero. Nada.

DangerousLiquid

Look at the Pm I sent you.

Why can't you write it here? And MKW isn't that good. It's only acceptable for the Wii console, but is heavily beaten by both GT5 and the Forza series in terms of longevity and driving quality.

Right that's why people still play MKW, right?

[QUOTE="super600"]

[QUOTE="DangerousLiquid"]

And that's your answer.

Zero. Nada.

DangerousLiquid

Look at the Pm I sent you.

Why can't you write it here? And MKW isn't that good. It's only acceptable for the Wii console, but is heavily beaten by both GT5 and the Forza series in terms of longevity and driving quality.

Iwouldn't want to derail the topic being discussed if I talked about it here.