Why do consolites hate PCs when next gen platforms ARE PCs?

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#1 deactivated-59b71619573a1
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You always hear console gamers around here b!tching about PCs and trying to play them down saying they're doomed or dying, but then someone like Mark Rein comes along and says the PS4 is essentially a PC :? Shouldn't all you consolites hate the thought of your precious consoles becoming more like the dreaded dying platform that is PC? 

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#2 LegatoSkyheart
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The Consolites shouldn't hate PCs cause then they wouldn't be on this site to begin with. :P

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windows sucks and digital games are a scam to sell us more locked down games then ever before.

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#4 SuperNovaftw
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The Consolites shouldn't hate PCs cause then they wouldn't be on this site to begin with. :P

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#5 Michael0134567
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PCs suck. Get over it.

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#6 deactivated-59b71619573a1
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windows sucks and digital games are a scam to sell us more locked down games then ever before.

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Why does windows suck exactly? And the second half of your post would have far more weight and meaning if all PCs were all DD only and consoles were retail only. 

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#7 olart4618
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since the days of the atari 2600 the consoles are pc, they have cpu, ram, os, etc

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#8 deactivated-59b71619573a1
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PCs suck. Get over it.

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I have, it's these console gamers that can't seem to get over it and are infatuated by the PC. 

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#9 Michael0134567
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[QUOTE="Michael0134567"]

PCs suck. Get over it.

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I have, it's these console gamers that can't seem to get over it and are infatuated by the PC. 

That's not the response I wanted. :x

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windows sucks and digital games are a scam to sell us more locked down games then ever before.

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Sucks to be you then as DD is looking like the future of this industry.
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[QUOTE="osirisx3"]

windows sucks and digital games are a scam to sell us more locked down games then ever before.

seanmcloughlin

Why does windows suck exactly? And the second half of your post would have far more weight and meaning if all PCs were all DD only and consoles were retail only. 

stop giving him attention please :(
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[QUOTE="osirisx3"]

windows sucks and digital games are a scam to sell us more locked down games then ever before.

seanmcloughlin

Why does windows suck exactly? And the second half of your post would have far more weight and meaning if all PCs were all DD only and consoles were retail only. 

Have you seen windows 8? Its a mess! why would they make a tablet os for a desktop? Vista was awful it did not work with older hardware including these people really need like printers and it was slow. Win 7 was just vista light with a new task bar but it did do a better job at being a usable os.  I am sure winpc fanboys will makes excuses as to why this is okay but its my opinion.

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#13 deactivated-5cd08b1605da1
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I dont hate PCs. I hate hermits. Worst bunch of fanboys

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#14 Kinthalis
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You're first msitake is thinking you'd get anything like logic, or reason from consolites.

It's not a console, so they hate it. Simple as that. Theya re like rabid religious fundamentalists.

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#15 freedomfreak
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You're first msitake is thinking you'd get anything like logic, or reason from consolites.

It's not a console, so they hate it. Simple as that. Theya re like rabid religious fundamentalists.

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Unlike hermits.
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You always hear console gamers around here b!tching about PCs and trying to play them down saying they're doomed or dying, but then someone like Mark Rein comes along and says the PS4 is essentially a PC :? Shouldn't all you consolites hate the thought of your precious consoles becoming more like the dreaded dying platform that is PC?

seanmcloughlin

I don't think they hate PC's they just heavily dislike Hermits.

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#17 Ly_the_Fairy
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[QUOTE="Kinthalis"]

You're first msitake is thinking you'd get anything like logic, or reason from consolites.

It's not a console, so they hate it. Simple as that. Theya re like rabid religious fundamentalists.

freedomfreak

Unlike hermits.

Hermitism isn't a religion; it's science :P

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#18 fadersdream
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No one hates anything... except fanboys.

If you feel hated, maybe you need to do some soul searching.

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#19 freedomfreak
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[QUOTE="freedomfreak"][QUOTE="Kinthalis"]

You're first msitake is thinking you'd get anything like logic, or reason from consolites.

It's not a console, so they hate it. Simple as that. Theya re like rabid religious fundamentalists.

Ly_the_Fairy

Unlike hermits.

Hermitism isn't a religion; it's science :P

Science my hiney!!
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#20 ReadingRainbow4
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[QUOTE="freedomfreak"][QUOTE="Kinthalis"]

You're first msitake is thinking you'd get anything like logic, or reason from consolites.

It's not a console, so they hate it. Simple as that. Theya re like rabid religious fundamentalists.

Ly_the_Fairy

Unlike hermits.

Hermitism isn't a religion; it's science :P

scientology

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#21 Michael0134567
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Don't hate PCs. I'd like to have a powerful PC.

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#22 deactivated-59b71619573a1
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I dont hate PCs. I hate hermits. Worst bunch of fanboys

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I heard a very distinct Moo when you said that.

Most odd

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#24 lowe0
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You know that openness that PC gamers say they love about their platform? What makes you think that a system that uses variants of PC hardware but is built from the ground up on the same design philosophies that have been the foundations of the consoles we already enjoy is going to be anything other than a console? The entire ecosystem - hardware, software, content, and services - is more important than where they get the chips from. Also, you do realize there's a difference between not preferring the PC and hating it, right?
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#25 deactivated-59b71619573a1
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[QUOTE="seanmcloughlin"]

You always hear console gamers around here b!tching about PCs and trying to play them down saying they're doomed or dying, but then someone like Mark Rein comes along and says the PS4 is essentially a PC :? Shouldn't all you consolites hate the thought of your precious consoles becoming more like the dreaded dying platform that is PC?

ReadingRainbow4

I don't think they hate PC's they just heavily dislike Hermits.

Then why the "PC is doomed/dying" talk? Sounds like hate towards the PC to me

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[QUOTE="seanmcloughlin"]

[QUOTE="osirisx3"]

windows sucks and digital games are a scam to sell us more locked down games then ever before.

yellosnolvr

Why does windows suck exactly? And the second half of your post would have far more weight and meaning if all PCs were all DD only and consoles were retail only. 

stop giving him attention please :(

 

yes please hide from anyone who does not agree with me :cry:

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No they aren't, they lack the most definitive trait of the PC platform, its open nature. Until consoles become open platforms, they can't be called a PC.

That said, I'm suprised how many cows bashed the 360, while the PS4 is following lots of MS' ideas that made the 360 a great system to own, and is getting universal praise for such an approach by local cows.

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#28 deactivated-59b71619573a1
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You know that openness that PC gamers say they love about their platform? What makes you think that a system that uses variants of PC hardware but is built from the ground up on the same design philosophies that have been the foundations of the consoles we already enjoy is going to be anything other than a console? The entire ecosystem - hardware, software, content, and services - is more important than where they get the chips from. Also, you do realize there's a difference between not preferring the PC and hating it, right?lowe0

Yes

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No they aren't, they lack the most definitive trait of the PC platform, its open nature. Until consoles become open platforms, they can't be called a PC.

That said, I'm suprised how many cows bashed the 360, while the PS4 is following lots of MS' ideas that made the 360 a great system to own, and is getting universal praise for such an approach by local cows.

Rocker6

That thread title about Nvidia came to mind, but swap Nvidia for cows "we lie when it suits us"

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#30 ReadingRainbow4
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[QUOTE="ReadingRainbow4"]

[QUOTE="seanmcloughlin"]

You always hear console gamers around here b!tching about PCs and trying to play them down saying they're doomed or dying, but then someone like Mark Rein comes along and says the PS4 is essentially a PC :? Shouldn't all you consolites hate the thought of your precious consoles becoming more like the dreaded dying platform that is PC?

seanmcloughlin

I don't think they hate PC's they just heavily dislike Hermits.

Then why the "PC is doomed/dying" talk? Sounds like hate towards the PC to me

Eh, hates a strong word bro.

I don't think anyone actually takes this place seriously enough to hate anything. Maybe groan when they see certain posters but that's about it.

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#31 Krelian-co
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cause... fanboys + jelly

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#32 clyde46
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[QUOTE="seanmcloughlin"]

[QUOTE="ReadingRainbow4"]

I don't think they hate PC's they just heavily dislike Hermits.

ReadingRainbow4

Then why the "PC is doomed/dying" talk? Sounds like hate towards the PC to me

Eh, hates a strong word bro.

I don't think anyone actually takes this place seriously enough to hate anything. Maybe groan when they see certain posters but that's about it.

I know a good few posters here that go out of their way to hate on hermits.
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#33 kraken2109
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Because consoles are baby PCs for people that think a computer is too complicated.

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#34 deactivated-5acbb9993d0bd
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I dont hate PCs. I hate hermits. Worst bunch of fanboys

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no that would be you cows... I think every other faction would agree.
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They're only PCs in hardware terms, which nobody could care less about.  They still retain the same pick up and play, easy to use, affordable aspects that make them gaming consoles.

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[QUOTE="Rocker6"]

No they aren't, they lack the most definitive trait of the PC platform, its open nature. Until consoles become open platforms, they can't be called a PC.

That said, I'm suprised how many cows bashed the 360, while the PS4 is following lots of MS' ideas that made the 360 a great system to own, and is getting universal praise for such an approach by local cows.

seanmcloughlin

That thread title about Nvidia came to mind, but swap Nvidia for cows "we lie when it suits us"

Yeah, cows were always the most rabid SW bunch from my experience, and moments like this when a bunch of fanboys is throwing around technical terms without any knowledge about it results in a lot of laughs!

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They're only PCs in hardware terms, which nobody could care less about.  They still retain the same pick up and play, easy to use, affordable aspects that make them gaming consoles.

Crossel777

:lol: something called GDDR5 comes to mind

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#38 Rocker6
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They're only PCs in hardware terms, which nobody could care less about.  They still retain the same pick up and play, easy to use, affordable aspects that make them gaming consoles.

Crossel777

The SW begs to differ, or have you missed "Teh CELL" and "8GB GDDR5"?

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[QUOTE="seanmcloughlin"]

[QUOTE="Rocker6"]

No they aren't, they lack the most definitive trait of the PC platform, its open nature. Until consoles become open platforms, they can't be called a PC.

That said, I'm suprised how many cows bashed the 360, while the PS4 is following lots of MS' ideas that made the 360 a great system to own, and is getting universal praise for such an approach by local cows.

Rocker6

That thread title about Nvidia came to mind, but swap Nvidia for cows "we lie when it suits us"

Yeah, cows were always the most rabid SW bunch from my experience, and moments like this when a bunch of fanboys is throwing around technical terms without any knowledge about it results in a lot of laughs!

Yep and your sig is testament to that

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[QUOTE="osirisx3"]

[QUOTE="seanmcloughlin"]

Why does windows suck exactly? And the second half of your post would have far more weight and meaning if all PCs were all DD only and consoles were retail only. 

clyde46

Have you seen windows 8? Its a mess! why would they make a tablet os for a desktop? Vista was awful it did not work with older hardware including these people really need like printers and it was slow. Win 7 was just vista light with a new task bar but it did do a better job at being a usable os.  I am sure winpc fanboys will makes excuses as to why this is okay but its my opinion.

You one of those freetards who think 2013 will be the year of the Linux OS?

 :lol: he comes classic hermit insecurity and Linux has been doing great as of late ever hear of android?

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[QUOTE="clyde46"][QUOTE="osirisx3"]

Have you seen windows 8? Its a mess! why would they make a tablet os for a desktop? Vista was awful it did not work with older hardware including these people really need like printers and it was slow. Win 7 was just vista light with a new task bar but it did do a better job at being a usable os.  I am sure winpc fanboys will makes excuses as to why this is okay but its my opinion.

osirisx3

You one of those freetards who think 2013 will be the year of the Linux OS?

 :lol: he comes classic hermit insecurity and Linux has been doing great as of late ever hear of android?

Having fun compiling crap to get it working? I'm sure one day Linux will be useful as a desktop OS.
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#42 lowe0
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Because consoles are baby PCs for people that think a computer is too complicated.

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Considering that this particular console gamer is posting in between debugging some LINQ code at the moment, that seems like an odd statement.
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They're only PCs in hardware terms, which nobody could care less about.  They still retain the same pick up and play, easy to use, affordable aspects that make them gaming consoles.

Crossel777

so basically they are gimped pcs for ignorant people that are too lazy? OK.

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:lol: he comes classic hermit insecurity and Linux has been doing great as of late ever hear of android?

osirisx3

Hasn't been doing well enough to become appealing as a primary OS for a gamer, though. Since a very good part of my PC usage is about gaming, can't say Linux has much of an appeal, also, to mindlessly bash Microsoft OS' is pretty foolish.

If I could do some serious gaming on it, I'd definitely consider Linux, but I don't see it happening anytime soon, despite some of the Valve's efforts to make it a more viable gaming platform.

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[QUOTE="kraken2109"]

Because consoles are baby PCs for people that think a computer is too complicated.

lowe0
Considering that this particular console gamer is posting in between debugging some LINQ code at the moment, that seems like an odd statement.

Show me where what he said applies to you. You seem to love to take sweeping statements personally.
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So no more exlcusives becasue everything is a pc.

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[QUOTE="lowe0"][QUOTE="kraken2109"]

Because consoles are baby PCs for people that think a computer is too complicated.

clyde46

Considering that this particular console gamer is posting in between debugging some LINQ code at the moment, that seems like an odd statement.

Show me where what he said applies to you. You seem to love to take sweeping statements personally.

Debate forum!

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[QUOTE="lowe0"][QUOTE="kraken2109"]

Because consoles are baby PCs for people that think a computer is too complicated.

clyde46
Considering that this particular console gamer is posting in between debugging some LINQ code at the moment, that seems like an odd statement.

Show me where what he said applies to you. You seem to love to take sweeping statements personally.

He addressed it to console gamers. Do I or do I not fit within that category? This is a simple yes or no question.
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[QUOTE="lowe0"][QUOTE="clyde46"][QUOTE="lowe0"] Considering that this particular console gamer is posting in between debugging some LINQ code at the moment, that seems like an odd statement.

Show me where what he said applies to you. You seem to love to take sweeping statements personally.

He addressed it to console gamers. Do I or do I not fit within that category? This is a simple yes or no question.

And yet in other threads where console users have made sweeping statements about PC gamers personal lives you are not where to be seen. Also, if you read his post correctly he said : "Because consoles are baby PCs for people that think a computer is too complicated." No where did he say that all console users are babies. He was implying that consoles are designed for people who find using a computer too complicated. You as you have stated do not find a computer complicated or difficult to use, so no, you do not fit into his argument.
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[QUOTE="clyde46"][QUOTE="lowe0"][QUOTE="clyde46"] Show me where what he said applies to you. You seem to love to take sweeping statements personally.

He addressed it to console gamers. Do I or do I not fit within that category? This is a simple yes or no question.

And yet in other threads where console users have made sweeping statements about PC gamers personal lives you are not where to be seen. Also, if you read his post correctly he said : "Because consoles are baby PCs for people that think a computer is too complicated." No where did he say that all console users are babies. He was implying that consoles are designed for people who find using a computer too complicated. You as you have stated do not find a computer complicated or difficult to use, so no, you do not fit into his argument.

That's a lot of letters for a yes or a no.