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Which is why I said Mount and Blade BETA. The Beta was out by the time Oblivion was released. I recall the Alpha even being available in 2005. Just like with Minecraft, the Alpha was available to anyone who bought the game during its alpha/beta stages for a low price.Except it was no where near as accepted as Minecraft and how is Bethesda supposed to completely change their game when it is already gone gold and pending release?No but it shows that other action RPGs had much better combat. And how niche it is has nothing to do with it. But if you wont accept that, then I will just go back to Gothic. Which I consider superior to Oblivion.
Oblivion's Story could be summed up like this:
The Emperor has died, you must find his son. You find his son and some more unforgettable stuff happen. Oh and it involves some cult as well.
The gameplay was bad, it was a poor mans everything.
Characters were shallow and one dimentional
The Combat system could be described like this.
When I swung a weapon it didnt feel like it, enemies took ages to kill at higher levels thanks to a terribly balanced system, spells had no casting times, not to mention, spells themselves were quitet shallow, combat was too easy, the AI had no tactics whatsoever outside of charging, combat had no variety at all, there was no strategy involved, a helm would protect against a blow in the legs, oh and morrowind had a less abominable combat than Oblivion.
Umm half of that is just plain false. The spells weren't shallow and did have a slight animated casting time.
Yeah you are right about that, but the problem I had was I could move while casting any spell, no such thing as concentration, each spell destruction spell had the same casting time, unless I missed something. And yes, the spells were shallow, spell casting in Oblivion was incredibly boring.
There have been plenty of games with good combat, gameplay, story and characters.
Fire Emblem Seisen no Keifu: A 3 dimentional villain, a storyline that spanned 2 generations and excellent tactical gameplay with huge maps. That's a tactical RPG that si a top-down rip off of traditional CRPG's. You can't compare it to Oblivion and say that it is better.As you said "Oblivion was one of if not the first RPG that had a decent story, good gameplay, good depth to character, and a good combat system." I wanted to list it as you seemed to say RPGs in general, and yes Seisen no Keifu has one of the best stories I have seen in the genre (top 10, but PlaneScape: Torment is the best), and the gameplay wasnt bad either.
Baldurs Gate Saga: Had excellent characters where it made sense for an evil character to fight the bad guy, the combat was the best part however with plenty of strategy.Same as above, except it was actually a good realization of the CRPG genre.
KotoR: The combat wasnt as good as BG, but still pretty decent, the characters and story though are what made this very memorable. KOTOR's combat was nowhere near as good as Oblivions. It was one of the worst things about the game.KotoR's combat was weak, that I agree with, however, it was still better than the combat in Oblivion.
Tactics Ogre Let Us Cling Together: Inspired by the Yugoslav wars with multiple branching storylines, Tactics Ogre tells a good story with some memorable characters, with evolutionary gameplay and combat.Haven't played this one so I won't comment on it.
Ultima 7 Has a better story, gameplay and characters than Oblivion but the combat is equally bad. The gameplay is much clunkier than Oblivion. It's just a completely different ****of game than Oblivion. I'm not saying that it isn't good, just too different to compare.It is clunkier, but it is also expected of a much older game, however, the environment interactivity was what made U7 so great. It is still my golden standard
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The fact that you think Morrowind had a better combat system than Oblivion makes me think you're trolling or just plain bitter for absolutely no reason. How can you even compare a Fire Emblem game to Oblivion?
I never mentioned or compared it to Oblivion. They are polar opposites in terms of gameplay. I used it as an example of an RPG with good gameplay, good story, good combat and good characters.
I used to think Morrowind had worse combat, until I started noticing the massive flaws of Oblivion's combat. Both are so terrible, so it doesnt matter who has the combat system that is less rubbish. Skyrim however, looks to have the best combat of the 3, this one could actually be somewhat enjoyable.
Morrowind is indeed a dumbed down Daggerfall, but unlike Oblivion, it was actually better than its prequel on something other than graphics. Ok, ok, Oblivion does have rocket launchers (staves) and the cast and fight feature though, and those 2 are improvements. My favorite in the series is Daggerfall, Morrowind is nice however, however Oblivion... dont even want to touch that one again unmodded.
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