Why do PC gamers say that..

[QUOTE="Peredith"]

Apart from the exclusive games, consoles do suck. Why would I want to play multiplatform games at lower resolution and framerate without mod support? :|

ZombieKiller7

- Physical product

- No troubleshooting or configuration required

- Easily couchable

- Controller works in every game

- Motion gaming

- Social hub

- Can double as a cable box

- Exclusives that aren't all MMO's or pay-to-win

- Not needing to have an Origin account and be abused by EA

- Not being abused by Ubisoft DRM

- Not having your entire library at the mercy of a Steam account (to be fair, Valve is really cool and probably won't screw PC gamers over. Probably.)

Those sound like a bunch of bull**** reasons to me. I haven't had a problem with my PC since I built it when PS3 launched. It can still handle anything (with lower settings) and is the ultimate multimedia device. I got out of consoles when my wallet was starting to empty. I couldn't see the point in paying more for my dollar than PC gaming when most often it equals half the experience. I can't figure out why their no longer plug n' play. The other reason I ditched consoles was because I was having more problems with them than my PC. I guess I'm alone on this but PCs seem to be more convenient, cheaper, better audio/video, and more customizable. Was it always this case? No. Not during SNES/Gen years it's like they had a role and was to do one thing PLAY GAMES quick and fun. PCs have become more user friendly (almost too much) and consoles are losing identity.

For those claiming hermits who stress 1080p gaming are new to the game is their opinion, and a wrong one. We choose PC because it's always been at the forefront of bleeding edge tech, genres only possible with complex controls, and devs stepping out of comfort zone with a futureproof game. We complain the most this gen because the consoles no longer serve their purpose of quick no frills gaming and try to hard to be what it's not. Therefor severely bottlenecking the industry (specifically PC) and now devs are too afraid to take many risks on PC. They need to be as separated as possible for more success / satisfying everyone.

[QUOTE="ZombieKiller7"]

[QUOTE="Peredith"]

Apart from the exclusive games, consoles do suck. Why would I want to play multiplatform games at lower resolution and framerate without mod support? :|

Peredith

- Physical product

- No troubleshooting or configuration required

- Easily couchable

- Controller works in every game

- Motion gaming

- Social hub

- Can double as a cable box

- Exclusives that aren't all MMO's or pay-to-win

- Not needing to have an Origin account and be abused by EA

- Not being abused by Ubisoft DRM

- Not having your entire library at the mercy of a Steam account (to be fair, Valve is really cool and probably won't screw PC gamers over. Probably.)

None of those "problems" affect me. I know how to use a computer. Give me reasons why the console version of the game is better than the PC version.

If you don't care about any of that then you wouldn't console game.

Plain and simple.

I do, therefor I do.

Again plain and simple.

...games are only enjoyable on the PC? I feel myself on a much bigger atmosphere when playing in my couch.

tjricardo089

[QUOTE="tjricardo089"]

...games are only enjoyable on the PC? I feel myself on a much bigger atmosphere when playing in my couch.

AzatiS

its like someone gathered togeather all the bad console trolls in 1 thread.. someone get a photo.. oh wait nvrm thatd be pointless. they all look and sound the same XD

To be fair not every hermit is 10 years old and thinks that games are only about their resolution

Only the pathetic troll variety

loosingENDS

[QUOTE="AzatiS"][QUOTE="tjricardo089"]

...games are only enjoyable on the PC? I feel myself on a much bigger atmosphere when playing in my couch.

ionusX

its like someone gathered togeather all the bad console trolls in 1 thread.. someone get a photo.. oh wait nvrm thatd be pointless. they all look and sound the same XD

I got out of consoles when my wallet was starting to empty. I couldn't see the point in paying more for my dollar than PC gaming when most often it equals half the experience. I can't figure out why their no longer plug n' play. The other reason I ditched consoles was because I was having more problems with them than my PC. I guess I'm alone on this but PCs seem to be more convenient, cheaper, better audio/video, and more customizable. Was it always this case? No. Not during SNES/Gen years it's like they had a role and was to do one thing PLAY GAMES quick and fun. PCs have become more user friendly (almost too much) and consoles are losing identity.

For those claiming hermits who stress 1080p gaming are new to the game is their opinion, and a wrong one. We choose PC because it's always been at the forefront of bleeding edge tech, genres only possible with complex controls, and devs stepping out of comfort zone with a futureproof game. We complain the most this gen because the consoles no longer serve their purpose of quick no frills gaming and try to hard to be what it's not. Therefor severely bottlenecking the industry (specifically PC) and now devs are too afraid to take many risks on PC. They need to be as separated as possible for more success / satisfying everyone.

oldskooler79

Ok I can respect that.

Here's my chain of reasoning.

1. I realize I want to play a few games available ONLY on a console

2. Ok now I own this device, I have to get some use out of it.

3. Oh look, Gamefly, rent all you want for $255 a year

4. I've never been a graphics whore, games on every platform look good to me, I typically get low end graphics cards anyway.

5. I can either buy this game for $60 off Steam, or rent it, or get it used off ebay, oh look someone's selling it for $20. Most of the time tho it's a 2 day rental. Finish campaign in 6 hours, stuff it in the envelope, play the next one.

6. Sure I can get alot of deals off Steam. $11 for Deus Ex HR. But I'm only gonna play the damn thing once, and I already freakin rented it and played it.

7. I'm not paying $40 to play Tropico. I'm just not. Ok. Rent it, play it, send it back. No pain. No remorse.

Anyway these are the reasons I got into console gaming.

Apart from the exclusive games, consoles do suck. Why would I want to play multiplatform games at lower resolution and framerate without mod support? :|

Give me one reason why I should play a multiplatform game on a console instead of the PC.

Peredith

I collect games, console games = collectible, or at least much more so. I despise DD with a searing passion.

It's just easier for me. My cell phone and my TV are the only machines I own that multitask.

I'm just more used to gaming on consoles, been doing so for 20 years. *shrugs*

It's not just about the multiplats, even though that wasn't your point.

If you don't care about any of that then you wouldn't console game.

Plain and simple.

I do, therefor I do.

Again plain and simple.

ZombieKiller7

[QUOTE="oldskooler79"]

I got out of consoles when my wallet was starting to empty. I couldn't see the point in paying more for my dollar than PC gaming when most often it equals half the experience. I can't figure out why their no longer plug n' play. The other reason I ditched consoles was because I was having more problems with them than my PC. I guess I'm alone on this but PCs seem to be more convenient, cheaper, better audio/video, and more customizable. Was it always this case? No. Not during SNES/Gen years it's like they had a role and was to do one thing PLAY GAMES quick and fun. PCs have become more user friendly (almost too much) and consoles are losing identity.

For those claiming hermits who stress 1080p gaming are new to the game is their opinion, and a wrong one. We choose PC because it's always been at the forefront of bleeding edge tech, genres only possible with complex controls, and devs stepping out of comfort zone with a futureproof game. We complain the most this gen because the consoles no longer serve their purpose of quick no frills gaming and try to hard to be what it's not. Therefor severely bottlenecking the industry (specifically PC) and now devs are too afraid to take many risks on PC. They need to be as separated as possible for more success / satisfying everyone.

ZombieKiller7

Ok I can respect that.

Here's my chain of reasoning.

1. I realize I want to play a few games available ONLY on a console

2. Ok now I own this device, I have to get some use out of it.

3. Oh look, Gamefly, rent all you want for $255 a year

4. I've never been a graphics whore, games on every platform look good to me, I typically get low end graphics cards anyway.

5. I can either buy this game for $60 off Steam, or rent it, or get it used off ebay, oh look someone's selling it for $20. Most of the time tho it's a 2 day rental. Finish campaign in 6 hours, stuff it in the envelope, play the next one.

6. Sure I can get alot of deals off Steam. $11 for Deus Ex HR. But I'm only gonna play the damn thing once, and I already freakin rented it and played it.

7. I'm not paying $40 to play Tropico. I'm just not. Ok. Rent it, play it, send it back. No pain. No remorse.

Anyway these are the reasons I got into console gaming.

So what I got out of all your points was that the ONLY reason you game on a console is because you ONLY rent video games.

If that is your only reason then I feel sad for you because you can do that on the PC also, for the same prices you find on the

console.

So what I got out of all your points was that the ONLY reason you game on a console is because you ONLY rent video games.

If that is your only reason then I feel sad for you because you can do that on the PC also, for the same prices you find on the

console.

Stream_Beta

Well no, if you see point #1 it started with "I want to play some exclusives"

and went to "I already own the device, what do I do with it now"

Unless you can find some compelling reason to buy the game on Steam for $60 instead of getting it in the mail as a rental, I'm afraid you don't have a logical leg to stand on.

Also where can you rent games for PC? Give me a link please.

You're trying to figure out ways to save PC gaming from extinction and I respect that.

But what you have to understand is that PC devs boned their customers for so long that most of us have no compelling reason to hold any sense of loyalty to them.

It's you hermits that I feel sorry for, a bunch of chemically imbalanced little kids prattling on about your graphics.

I have nothing against gaming on a PC.

I have something against gaming EXCLUSIVELY on a PC and adding extra work and expense to my life for no reason at all.

I'm loyal to my fun.

If I want to PC game I PC game.

Right now that doesn't make sense to me so I don't do it.

Simple as.

I don't see how it matters.

Couch is more comfortable though.

[QUOTE="Stream_Beta"]

So what I got out of all your points was that the ONLY reason you game on a console is because you ONLY rent video games.

If that is your only reason then I feel sad for you because you can do that on the PC also, for the same prices you find on the

console.

ZombieKiller7

Well no, if you see point #1 it started with "I want to play some exclusives"

and went to "I already own the device, what do I do with it now"

Unless you can find some compelling reason to buy the game on Steam for $60 instead of getting it in the mail as a rental, I'm afraid you don't have a logical leg to stand on.

Also where can you rent games for PC? Give me a link please.

You're trying to figure out ways to save PC gaming from extinction and I respect that.

But what you have to understand is that PC devs boned their customers for so long that most of us have no compelling reason to hold any sense of loyalty to them.

It's you hermits that I feel sorry for, a bunch of chemically imbalanced little kids prattling on about your graphics.

I have nothing against gaming on a PC.

I have something against gaming EXCLUSIVELY on a PC and adding extra work and expense to my life for no reason at all.

I'm loyal to my fun.

If I want to PC game I PC game.

Right now that doesn't make sense to me so I don't do it.

Simple as.

Right, and when Wii had worst graphics then X360 and PS3, lems and cows never said a word about that?

[QUOTE="Stream_Beta"]

So what I got out of all your points was that the ONLY reason you game on a console is because you ONLY rent video games.

If that is your only reason then I feel sad for you because you can do that on the PC also, for the same prices you find on the

console.

ZombieKiller7

Well no, if you see point #1 it started with "I want to play some exclusives"

and went to "I already own the device, what do I do with it now"

Unless you can find some compelling reason to buy the game on Steam for $60 instead of getting it in the mail as a rental, I'm afraid you don't have a logical leg to stand on.

Also where can you rent games for PC? Give me a link please.

You're trying to figure out ways to save PC gaming from extinction and I respect that.

But what you have to understand is that PC devs boned their customers for so long that most of us have no compelling reason to hold any sense of loyalty to them.

It's you hermits that I feel sorry for, a bunch of chemically imbalanced little kids prattling on about your graphics.

I have nothing against gaming on a PC.

I have something against gaming EXCLUSIVELY on a PC and adding extra work and expense to my life for no reason at all.

I'm loyal to my fun.

If I want to PC game I PC game.

Right now that doesn't make sense to me so I don't do it.

Simple as.

I sure hope half of that was sarcasm otherwise you are very naive. Who said I was trying to "figure out ways to save PC gaming from extinction"?

It is actually very obvious that if anything is going to go the way of the dodo is consoles. Not only has it been obvious but quite a few game industry

heads have also started to agree that PC gaming will out live console gaming.

Better graphics, performance and mods offers a more enjoyable experience. Consoles offer a good experience, PCs offer the best experience. :)

Peredith

Why do consolites say that couches are exclusive to consoles?Damnsmooth

Because 9/10 anytime you see someone on a pc they are in a chair at a desk. Thats prob why...

Why do consolites say that couches are exclusive to consoles?Damnsmooth

I wonder what I was playing when I was 10?

These debates have been going on since PC gaming diverged away from mainstream console gaming, but for me, it's a matter of...

...the keyboard and mouse. I love it. It's the only reason why I don't play games on the console unless it's an exclusive. The mouse and keyboard offer a great deal of comfort and precision that a controller can't quite match. The better graphics are just the icing on the cake, so to speak.

Even though I enjoy PC gaming regularly from my couch on the big screen, I can say without a doubt games are still extremely enjoyable when played on something other than my PC. That being of course a Xbox 360 & PS3.

Well, you could hook your PC up to your TV, you know, then you can use your couch for PC games.

dream431ca

I think nearly everyone should agree the statement should really be games aren't solely enjoyable on a PC just more enjoyable.

I think nearly everyone should agree the statement should really be games aren't solely enjoyable on a PC just more enjoyable.

shawn7324

[QUOTE="Damnsmooth"]Why do consolites say that couches are exclusive to consoles?csftar

[QUOTE="shawn7324"]

I think nearly everyone should agree the statement should really be games aren't solely enjoyable on a PC just more enjoyable.

almasdeathchild

[QUOTE="almasdeathchild"]

[QUOTE="shawn7324"]

I think nearly everyone should agree the statement should really be games aren't solely enjoyable on a PC just more enjoyable.

shawn7324

thats my prefrence

[QUOTE="csftar"][QUOTE="Damnsmooth"]Why do consolites say that couches are exclusive to consoles?lowe0

I see our resident trolls have hit this thread hard anyway

The fact that console gamers still think we can't play on our couches with the PC shows that they shouldn't make threads about stuff they know nothing of. The only thing that separates them are the exclusives consoles have that PC doesn't. The PC wins hands down every time otherwise

This has gone worst than expected.

/thread

Because they being fanboys like every other fanboy. It's not true, some people prefer to play on consoles and some people prefer to play on PC. Nothing wrong with it.

PC gaming is not the master race, there is no master race of gamers. Anyone that thinks there is needs to pull their head out of their ass.

...games are only enjoyable on the PC? I feel myself on a much bigger atmosphere when playing in my couch.

tjricardo089

You can play PC games on your couch to.... in fact I did it last night with Fifa 12 and NBA2k12 on PC with 360 controller, on my HDTV.

[QUOTE="tjricardo089"]

...games are only enjoyable on the PC? I feel myself on a much bigger atmosphere when playing in my couch.

kozzy1234

You can play PC games on your couch to.... in fact I did it last night with Fifa 12 and NBA2k12 on PC with 360 controller, on my HDTV.

[QUOTE="kozzy1234"]

[QUOTE="tjricardo089"]

...games are only enjoyable on the PC? I feel myself on a much bigger atmosphere when playing in my couch.

M3boarder23

You can play PC games on your couch to.... in fact I did it last night with Fifa 12 and NBA2k12 on PC with 360 controller, on my HDTV.

Someone is mad :lol:

I have two tvs, one in living room and one in my computer room.

No moving at all actually

Lol @ putting an ugly LED covered PC in ones living room. God you Hermits are so freaking tacky it's astoundingM3boarder23

Why do you need an LED case? Get a sweet HTPC case. They look fantastic.

We have couches and coffee tables in both family room and living room. My den has a futon (which can fold out into a bed). Being comfortable while (PC) gaming or surfing isn't a problem.

HDTVs....... All of them have PC connectivity from the get go. That's why they have VGA/DVI/HDMI ports. They certainly weren't put there for decoration.

The Mac Mini's hooked up permanently to the Bravia in the master bedroom. My PC (and my kid's laptop) sometimes hook up to the family room TV when my den is occupied by visiting relatives.

Why do consolites say that couches are exclusive to consoles?Damnsmooth

I sit on my computer chair when playing my consoles and PC since my PC and consoles are in my bedroom and I don't have enough room for a couch in my bedroom and I can just swivel myoffice chair to face my TV or my monitor.I guess most people play their consoles in the family room where there's a couch, and not in their bedrooms.

[QUOTE="M3boarder23"]Lol @ putting an ugly LED covered PC in ones living room. God you Hermits are so freaking tacky it's astoundinglundy86_4

Why do you need an LED case? Get a sweet HTPC case. They look fantastic.

[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

[QUOTE="M3boarder23"]Lol @ putting an ugly LED covered PC in ones living room. God you Hermits are so freaking tacky it's astoundingM3boarder23

Why do you need an LED case? Get a sweet HTPC case. They look fantastic.

The two HD consoles aren't photogenic either. The Wii might look okay. The other two are butt-ugly especially the original fat versions of both.