Why do people feel consoles are cheaper then PC?

[QUOTE="lowkey254"]

The PS3 was/is cheaper. No online fee to speak of. If you do decide to buy PS+ then you'll never have to actually pay for another game, since they give away so many for no added cost, and it's still cheaper than PC.

lol they don't give away new AAA games that people want to play now.  Same way new AAA games aren't 5.99 on steam sales. 

It would honestly depend those who have a gaming rig already can upgrade for 400 dollar or less which can be cheaper than buying a new console including paying for online

[QUOTE="Zaibach"]

[QUOTE="Kinthalis"]

Ultimately PC gaming is about CHOICE. Consoles are about the cookie cutter experience.

 

menes777

you guys really need to get over yourselves

All games are cookie cutter experiences, PC cookie cutter experiences are just shinnier

Except you missed the point entirely.  It's not the games that are about choice.  It's about what options you have with the platform.  With a console you can't decide to spend the bare minimum or as much as your wallet allows.  Your only choice is what the console is offered at.  You can't cheap out and upgrade later or go whole hog and buy above what the average spec is.  Again you have to buy the same console as every other Joe out there at the same price.  In some ways that is good, but again it's not a choice.  You have to buy the console that is provided.  Plus you cannot mod your games (currently) on the console, so you are only allowed to play like the developers want you to or with DLC that they provide (whether that's good or bad is another point).

you should be a politician, you have the ability to talk alot whilst saying very little.

I didnt miss any point, the chap I I was responding to was waxing lyrical about the ability to customize his gaming appature, this meaning the taking bits out and adding new bits for that personalised gaming feel. I get that. what I took umbridge with was this idea that that the games he was playing on his supposedly superior machine were no more different to their console counterparts, merely withouth shinnier.

Because they are.

you should be a politician, you have the ability to talk alot whilst saying very little.

 

I didnt miss any point, the chap I I was responding to was waxing lyrical about the ability to customize his gaming appature, this meaning the taking bits out and adding new bits for that personalised gaming feel. I get that. what I took umbridge with was this idea that that the games he was playing on his supposedly superior machine were no more different to their console counterparts, merely withouth shinnier.

Zaibach

Bro, if he should be a politician, then maybe work on your English...

1. Aperture
2. Umbrage
3. Supposedly
4. Shinier... Which would still be wrong.

They kind of are.

[QUOTE="NFJSupreme"]

[QUOTE="lowkey254"]

The PS3 was/is cheaper. No online fee to speak of. If you do decide to buy PS+ then you'll never have to actually pay for another game, since they give away so many for no added cost, and it's still cheaper than PC.

lowkey254

lol they don't give away new AAA games that people want to play now.  Same way new AAA games aren't 5.99 on steam sales. 

Did you get Uncharted 3 day one when it was hyped to death with 9 and above scores everywhere and people were going crazy for it for free?  That is my point.  They don't give away new AAA games for free when you want to play them on day one.  You aren't getting Watch Dogs for free.  You aren't getting BF4 for free.  You aren't getting Infamous Second Son for free.  So if you want to play games when everyone else is playing them you will have to pay.  But sure if you have the patients to wait and more importantly hope that they come out for free then sure knock yourself out.

At 500$ you can buy a next gen console that will be viable for about 6-10 years. On the other hand , a 500$ PC will struggle to play current games let alone games a half decade later.

Anybody claiming to buy a super PC for 500$ is either lying or getting some kind of deal the average consumer would not have access to.

[QUOTE="HadOne2Many"][QUOTE="jhonMalcovich"]

Never. A PC that pass recommended settings plays games in high quality. Period. 

jhonMalcovich

You just nitpicked one game that had the worst optimization in the history of gaming.

[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

[QUOTE="ElectricEchoes"]

If you take the price of console releases at the start of each generation, add that onto an average PC, then I don't see why not. Steam Sales, piratebay, and free online also save you a lot of money. You then have two problems: 1. You have to upgrade components. 2. You're missing out on some good exclusives.

rjdofu

:o

Yer double lol.

PSN sales , Breaking into houses to steal games and cheap online also save you a lot of money

[QUOTE="jhonMalcovich"]

[QUOTE="HadOne2Many"] My PC and GTAIV beg to differ. lowe0

You just nitpicked one game that had the worst optimization in the history of gaming.

[QUOTE="lowe0"][QUOTE="jhonMalcovich"]

You just nitpicked one game that had the worst optimization in the history of gaming.

mitu123

And that is why PC games will always be a diffrent market to console games.

And that is why PC games will always be a diffrent market to console games.

 

muffin200

Due to their disagreement with certain hardware? How does that differentiate them as a market? Hell, even the developers/publishers see them as the same market, hence most release them in both.

[QUOTE="muffin200"]

And that is why PC games will always be a diffrent market to console games.

 

lundy86_4

Due to their disagreement with certain hardware? How does that differentiate them as a market? Hell, even the developers/publishers see them as the same market, hence most release them in both.

Some people (myself included) like PC due to the flexibility but understand that tinkering is required.

Some people just want to come home after work and pop in a disc and play hassle free.

Maybe market was a bad choice of word but i hope you get where i am coming from.

Some people (myself included) like PC due to the flexibility but understand that tinkering is required.

 

Some people just want to come home after work and pop in a disc and play hassle free.

 

Maybe market was a bad choice of word but i hope you get where i am coming from.

 

muffin200

Kinda see where you're coming from, now.

[QUOTE="Zaibach"]

you should be a politician, you have the ability to talk alot whilst saying very little.

 

I didnt miss any point, the chap I I was responding to was waxing lyrical about the ability to customize his gaming appature, this meaning the taking bits out and adding new bits for that personalised gaming feel. I get that. what I took umbridge with was this idea that that the games he was playing on his supposedly superior machine were no more different to their console counterparts, merely withouth shinnier.

lundy86_4

Bro, if he should be a politician, then maybe work on your English...

1. Aperture
2. Umbrage
3. Supposedly
4. Shinier... Which would still be wrong.

1. I didn't know I was in class. 

2. I am not you bro...

3. Next time, attack my points not my spelling.

Because they are.

GOGOGOGURT

No. Console gamers get tons of AAA games PC gamer's don't.ShadowofSonic

most multiplat AAA come to PC

Building a new PC guys, i hope i am not destroying this lovely thread.

Also chime in if you can help intelligently :)

http://uk.gamespot.com/forums/topic/29419536/building-new-pc.-enthusiast

You can build a PC right now for around $500 and never pay a dime for your priveledge to play online. Less expensive games. Are console owners living in a fantasy world?

Heclogit

EDIT: In case you're too dense to realize it, that mine craft comment was merely hyperbole to drive through the fact that such a PC would perform so terribly with the latest game that you really could not consider it a gaming PC with todays games. unless u enjoy gaming at 800x600 with all settings dialed down to low.

$900 for legit gaming rig

$400 for PS4 + 300 to play games online over the next 6 years. So over the life of the console that is $700 to be able to play games on it.

With PC games being cheap, even when new, its hard to determine the price of games but lets say you pay an average of $35 per game for 10 games. That is $350 (keep in mind I haven't even come close to that and I have over 50 games on my PC) so $1250 total.

Now lets say you buy 10 games at an average of 50 per game because you are smart and buy used games. that is $500. total of $1200.

$1250 vs $1200 ($1300 if you are getting an Xbone) over the next 6 years.

Saying PC gaming is more expensive is a complete myth that consolites try to spread to make themselves feel better about their purchases. The reality is that if you can pony up the initial cost of a gaming PC (which is admittedly high) you will end up saving money in the end. In fact you could end up spend much much less than your console counterparts spend over said period of time. Now the cost can go up if you upgrade mid gen but you honestly don't have to if you do it right and pony up the money at first. So yeah PC and Console gaming are roughly the same cost when its all said and done. At the end of the day gaming is an expensive hobby regardless of what you game on unless its a cell phone.

$900 for legit gaming rig

$400 for PS4 + 300 to play games online over the next 6 years. So over the life of the console that is $700 to be able to play games on it.

With PC games being cheap, even when new, its hard to determine the price of games but lets say you pay an average of $35 per game for 10 games. That is $350 (keep in mind I haven't even come close to that and I have over 50 games on my PC) so $1250 total.

 

Now lets say you buy 10 games at an average of 50 per game because you are smart and buy used games. that is $500. total of $1200.

 

$1250 vs $1200 ($1300 if you are getting an Xbone) over the next 6 years.

 

Saying PC gaming is more expensive is a complete myth that consolites try to spread to make themselves feel better about their purchases. The reality is that if you can pony up the initial cost of a gaming PC (which is admittedly high) you will end up saving money in the end. In fact you could end up spend much much less than your console counterparts spend over said period of time. Now the cost can go up if you upgrade mid gen but you honestly don't have to if you do it right and pony up the money at first. So yeah PC and Console gaming are roughly the same cost when its all said and done. At the end of the day gaming is an expensive hobby regardless of what you game on unless its a cell phone.

NFJSupreme

You have a very valid point, but have you ever considered that some people love certain exclusives only on the console of their choice? Also upgrading a computer and or building one is more then likely easy for anyone on these forums but for the average person it can seem vary complex and scary (even though it is simple,) plus there are tons of kids who like to game and their parents feel much more comfortable with buying them a simple console that will never need arguments and crying children wanting money for that new graphics card, ram, CPU, cooler, power supply, mother board, case, KB&M, that they think they just have to have. Personally I have no problem gaming on a console, and yes it is expensive no matter what platform you chose, I buy about 5 new games a year plus I have GameFly and I will also buy cheap older used games that are fun but not really worthy enough to buy new so that's about $300 a year for GameFly, $300 a year for new games, $50 a year for PS+, and probably $200 a year for used games. So there you have it around $850 on just games and services ever year, but I'm fine with that. I have seriously looked at buying a gaming PC but the only game that I really wanted to play was Arma, although there are other games that I can't play on a console, but for me Arma was the only one that had me wanting a PC. The way I spend money on gaming who knows I probably will end up buying a gaming PC also. So really in the end I don't think it is as much about the money as it is about personal preferences.

Because a $500 budget rig/tower does not even get me a mouse and keyboard, no monitor, no f*cking OS.

are hermits this stupid? Consoles will always be cheaper out of the gate. That money spent on a $1000 rig should have gone to better education TC.

Because they are.

GOGOGOGURT

This

Because a $500 budget rig/tower does not even get me a mouse and keyboard, no monitor, no f*cking OS.

are hermits this stupid? Consoles will always be cheaper out of the gate. That money spent on a $1000 rig should have gone to better education TC.

DrTrafalgarLaw

cause every hermit here is suggesting a 500 dollar budget rig :roll:

You can build a PC right now for around $500 and never pay a dime for your priveledge to play online. Less expensive games. Are console owners living in a fantasy world?

Heclogit

Consoles are in trouble, superior hardware is already just as cheap as next gen consoles, just wait until next year.

The price of a console is lower than the price of a PC

The price of gaming on a console is higher than the price of the PC

Most people only see the upfront costs though. They don't see lower priced games, hundreds of free games, thousands of bits of free DLC and free game content, or the lack of an online subscription fee.

They just see "PS4 is $400, and Xbox One is $500"

[QUOTE="DrTrafalgarLaw"]

Because a $500 budget rig/tower does not even get me a mouse and keyboard, no monitor, no f*cking OS.

are hermits this stupid? Consoles will always be cheaper out of the gate. That money spent on a $1000 rig should have gone to better education TC.

DarthRamms

cause every hermit here is suggesting a 500 dollar budget rig :roll:

only if that's the persons budget

In the long run, PC's are cheaper.

[QUOTE="Lionheart08"]

Because they are. Why do hermits boast about the superiority of PC Graphics while at the same time post budget rigs that have no chance of achieving them?

blue_hazy_basic

i just bought a $300 laptop with no intention of playing games and it can actually run a decent amount of shit lol

Who are we kidding. PC gaming is cheaper because we pirate every single game out there.

You can get a sub-$600 PC that's more powerful than next-gen consoles and also allows you to do all sorts of other things that a console just can't do.  You also don't have to pay for an online subscription.  Additionally, you can choose to upgrade hardware later and make your PC even more capable if you want to.  Really the only thing consoles have going for them are exclusive games and form factor.  However, you can build a small form factor PC that's roughly the size of a console... so there goes that.    

[QUOTE="DrTrafalgarLaw"]

Because a $500 budget rig/tower does not even get me a mouse and keyboard, no monitor, no f*cking OS.

are hermits this stupid? Consoles will always be cheaper out of the gate. That money spent on a $1000 rig should have gone to better education TC.

DarthRamms

cause every hermit here is suggesting a 500 dollar budget rig :roll:

You can get a sub-$600 PC that's more powerful than next-gen consoleshartsickdiscipl

[QUOTE="DarthRamms"]

[QUOTE="DrTrafalgarLaw"]

Because a $500 budget rig/tower does not even get me a mouse and keyboard, no monitor, no f*cking OS.

are hermits this stupid? Consoles will always be cheaper out of the gate. That money spent on a $1000 rig should have gone to better education TC.

DrTrafalgarLaw

cause every hermit here is suggesting a 500 dollar budget rig :roll:

Yet another fool who believes $500 is enough for a real gaming PC.

PC gaming is expensive. Get over it. You'll get 5-6 years out of a PS4 or X1 and only 2-3 years out of a PC before an upgrade. 

If your argument is "but I can play a bit higher than console settings" then you should just stop and reevaluate your life as that's the absolute worst reason to play PC games out there. You buy a gaming PC for the large variety of games, the massive amount of accessories, the large variety of monitors and gaming setups, and the raw power. You don't buy a PC game so you can barely play above console settings with the multiples. 

[QUOTE="DrTrafalgarLaw"]

[QUOTE="DarthRamms"]

 

cause every hermit here is suggesting a 500 dollar budget rig :roll:

 

 

psx_warrior

Yet another fool who believes $500 is enough for a real gaming PC.

PC gaming is expensive. Get over it. You'll get 5-6 years out of a PS4 or X1 and only 2-3 years out of a PC before an upgrade. 

If your argument is "but I can play a bit higher than console settings" then you should just stop and reevaluate your life as that's the absolute worst reason to play PC games out there. You buy a gaming PC for the large variety of games, the massive amount of accessories, the large variety of monitors and gaming setups, and the raw power. You don't buy a PC game so you can barely play above console settings with the multiples. 

Wasdie

I do own a gaming PC for the large variety of games

However, having the best graphics isn't why I bought one. It just happened to be included in the package.

Maybe you buy a gaming PC to have the best graphics, but not everyone actually cares about that. As long as I have access to the games I want, and they play fine, then I'm okay. I'm not rushing out to buy a new computer every time I play a game at below 60fps.

[QUOTE="psx_warrior"][QUOTE="DrTrafalgarLaw"] You'd be surprised by how many, like TC. For unfathomable reasons a $500 rig is superior in every way.
TC should build me a rig with:

8 GB's of ggdr5 system memory
a x86 CPU
amd radeon 7890
a HD capture card
a blu-ray drive
usb-controllers
a legitimate windows os copy,
mouse & keyboard

all for under $400. Go!

DrTrafalgarLaw

wait, what are we comparing the $500 rig to?

[QUOTE="Wasdie"]

Yet another fool who believes $500 is enough for a real gaming PC.

PC gaming is expensive. Get over it. You'll get 5-6 years out of a PS4 or X1 and only 2-3 years out of a PC before an upgrade. 

If your argument is "but I can play a bit higher than console settings" then you should just stop and reevaluate your life as that's the absolute worst reason to play PC games out there. You buy a gaming PC for the large variety of games, the massive amount of accessories, the large variety of monitors and gaming setups, and the raw power. You don't buy a PC game so you can barely play above console settings with the multiples. 

Ly_the_Fairy

[QUOTE="DrTrafalgarLaw"][QUOTE="psx_warrior"]You forgot the harddrive, power supply, motherboard, cooling, case...lostrib

wait, what are we comparing the $500 rig to?

[QUOTE="hartsickdiscipl"]

You can get a sub-$600 PC that's more powerful than next-gen consolesDrTrafalgarLaw

[QUOTE="lostrib"]

[QUOTE="DrTrafalgarLaw"] I'm throwing him a bone there, he could try to build a rig with no casing and no cooling and still be over $600DrTrafalgarLaw

wait, what are we comparing the $500 rig to?

yeah, that's just silly. Why guild any PC now?  And we don't even know the performance level of the PS4

[QUOTE="DrTrafalgarLaw"][QUOTE="hartsickdiscipl"]

You can get a sub-$600 PC that's more powerful than next-gen consolesmastershake575

[QUOTE="mastershake575"][QUOTE="DrTrafalgarLaw"] Build me one chump, it has to include the things I posted above, and be less than $400.

DrTrafalgarLaw

then you should direct your statement at that person